Umm? Do you even realize who this hedge fund is? I'm going to copy from groklaw here. Sounds like no, my sarcastic friend. Elliott is run by Paul Singer. Link states:
Paul E. Singer, a former corporate lawyer, is "the founding partner of Elliott Associates, a $7 billion hedge fund with a conservative, risk-averse bias that has been in business since 1977, making it one of the oldest funds around. A reserved, private man who would answer questions only via e-mail, Mr. Singer is a self-described conservative libertarian who has given millions of dollars to Republican organizations that emphasize a strong military and support Israel."
Singer is a member of the Board of Trustees of the neo-conservative think tank the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research; a "member of the boards of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs and of Commentary Magazine, and is on the Board of Advisors of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University", and a member of the Board of Fellows of Harvard Medical School.
Paul E. Singer is the founding partner of one of the oldest hedge funds around. And while he has become a major donor to Republican and conservative causes in recent years, he has largely managed to stay out of the limelight, even avoiding having his picture appear in newspapers. [...]
Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic Party, questioned “Paul Singer’s involvement in this dirty trick aimed at stealing the White House.” A group of Democrats filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission charging that Mr. Singer had been acting on behalf of Mr. Giuliani in his efforts to change the California law — which Mr. Singer and the campaign deny. And the Democratic National Committee drew attention to the part of Mr. Singer’s business that involves buying the debt of poor countries at a discount and then seeking repayment in full — prompting an article in The Times of London labeling his firm, Elliott Associates, a “vulture fund.”
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I didn't have to read either of those to already know that. Notice from the NYT: Vulture fund.
An investigation on behalf of current long term shareholders in Novell, Inc. (Public, NASDAQ:NOVL) concerning shareholder claims over potential breaches of fiduciary duty and other violations of state law in connection with an alleged unfair takeover was announced.
beyond that norton is not novell, novell actually has a pretty strong enterprise presence. A hedge fund buying novell is a really bad sign, to be honest. Novell is doing fine. Them trying to label Novell as unsuccessful is basically a flat out BS.
What I suspect this means is that someone's trying to stop Novell before the Novell v. SCO case comes around. They're trying to see if the Novell board is greedy enough to do it, and I suspect they aren't and neither are the shareholders.
A hedge taking over a company if that hedge has no experience managing in the sector of the company they're taking basically means they're going to tack on association/management fees onto novell and dump them to someone else.
this is a waste. why pay $30 when you can root for free and tether for free? Every market app works once you root. It's not like there's anything special other than that you get more up to date (and more stable) software.
Going after someone as huge as HTC by trying to use the ITC loophole along with patent saber rattling is a horrible horrible idea.
Really, if HTC buckles down and fights back apple could have their patent portfolio basically invalidated (among other things). HTC is a huge company, so I don't expect them to throw in a towel either. It's one thing if apple tried this on small fry, but this is a case of a jellyfish trying to eat the shark.
Apple is bigger (financially only) in the US, but HTC has a hand in probably 80% of all the electronics made in the world in terms of components, etc. HTC (as high tech corp) serious manufacturer ownership/control (especially outside the US) and could basically ensure apple won't be able to obtain key parts for any of their products.
pretty much. That doesn't mean people won't scrounge up BS to try to make a statement as to how magically games are associatively as linked to violence as rain is to violence. Since you know, crimes can happy on rainy days. etc.
put something on MS? There's no way out. It's there and permanently archived. They just "anonymize" after x months, which works out how well again? care to remind me or do I need to link articles?
put something on google? you can take your stuff out. Yes, it's still archived there.
Which of these sounds worse eh? You think MS is going to resist handing over your data for all those bing searches which you praised them for? considering that they made their own website to make it easier for police to not even necessarily have a court order to view your data?
gee now. Really, "in the cloud"? No, I'd say nothing of your data is in the cloud. I'd say it's on your PC, and on a google server. In the cloud is an asinine expression.
Also, google actually lets you see what data they have, so you can remove it. Ever tried that with any google competitor? MS, yahoo, any other search engine?
how does google monopolize the search market by datamining? Is everyone else suddenly losing marketshare on datamining? Google doesn't prevent anyone else from datamining.
last I checked, such a monopoly has never happened, ever.
nah, I was thinking this too. Really if you have a touchpad/keyboard, you're going to have issues of functionality as both of those have entirely separate methods of input. Trying to combine them means one of them is going to have to compromise. in this case, it's a flat panel as opposed to an actual small keyboard.
So my thoughts were that it just isn't realistic. lots of hubbub, and that's it.
That's how I read this too. However, the devil is in the details, which we don't have.
Given that a: usually a bill is introduced with opposite meaning to the statement of the bill if it's done by a bad politician and that b: it could be about the above but introduce some other issues, I'll hold my breath. I also can't find this act anywhere, other than it being mentioned as "to be introduced".
This is a type of bill that could easily be subverted by bad interests depending on who influences it.
well yes, what you state is true, and I agree with your statements. I just mean that using something should (theoretically) increase your knowledge of said something, at least to some degree. Sure, not as much as someone trained or a tinkerer, but etc. That's what I meant.
in the short term? maybe companies don't care if they have to buy software. In the long term? They end up using open source for a multitude of reasons.
Lots of companies are by default, stupid and shortsighted so it is to be expected.
apple only beat estimations versus itself. In reality, you can get significantly more functionality for less if you compare it to any other company that exists.
So yes, if you look through rose tinted glasses, the situation looks rosy. who would have known?
considering people use something, you should be able to expect a rudimentary understanding of those same things which people use. You expect someone who drives a car to understand that they need to change the oil, fill up the gas, etc.
Likewise, you should (note:should) be able to expect people to elect to learn how to get a good virus scanning program, how to tell spoof websites, etc. Meanwhile computers are newer than cars, so it's going to take a while for people to get to that point. People are still getting a grasp on spam email and fake websites/false authentication right now.
It folks don't really dedicate educating users on what you should do routinely, and likewise people don't all change their oil on time.
10 years from now, this will be less of an issue. not now though.
this is not an explanation that's really going to help people understand why linux is overall a better bet (specifically for longevity) than windows.
Try explaining things more simple:
it's more secure you know what the program does (nothing hidden) everything is free (and high quality) if you don't know how to do something it can easily be google'd to find the answer.
etc.
explaining MS's closed repositories is not even a compelling reason for folks who are programmers.
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Umm? Do you even realize who this hedge fund is? I'm going to copy from groklaw here.
Sounds like no, my sarcastic friend. Elliott is run by Paul Singer. Link states:
Also from the NYT
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I didn't have to read either of those to already know that. Notice from the NYT: Vulture fund.
Meanwhile, what's the kicker?
The shareholders are pissed already and think it's BS/hostile takeover. from that link:
So umm, whoops?
the su program can already blacklist programs from root. when it asks for SU you can say deny forever. what more do you need?
beyond that norton is not novell, novell actually has a pretty strong enterprise presence. A hedge fund buying novell is a really bad sign, to be honest. Novell is doing fine. Them trying to label Novell as unsuccessful is basically a flat out BS.
What I suspect this means is that someone's trying to stop Novell before the Novell v. SCO case comes around. They're trying to see if the Novell board is greedy enough to do it, and I suspect they aren't and neither are the shareholders.
A hedge taking over a company if that hedge has no experience managing in the sector of the company they're taking basically means they're going to tack on association/management fees onto novell and dump them to someone else.
this is a waste. why pay $30 when you can root for free and tether for free? Every market app works once you root. It's not like there's anything special other than that you get more up to date (and more stable) software.
bahahahhah are you serious? ever tried not using windows?
neither Microsoft's security essentials nor an antivirus provided from a major ISP is going to make a computer more secure in reality.
Going after someone as huge as HTC by trying to use the ITC loophole along with patent saber rattling is a horrible horrible idea.
Really, if HTC buckles down and fights back apple could have their patent portfolio basically invalidated (among other things). HTC is a huge company, so I don't expect them to throw in a towel either. It's one thing if apple tried this on small fry, but this is a case of a jellyfish trying to eat the shark.
Apple is bigger (financially only) in the US, but HTC has a hand in probably 80% of all the electronics made in the world in terms of components, etc. HTC (as high tech corp) serious manufacturer ownership/control (especially outside the US) and could basically ensure apple won't be able to obtain key parts for any of their products.
sup darl?
maybe it was my interpretation, but I took it as the anon is actually agreeing with what you're saying here.
pretty much. That doesn't mean people won't scrounge up BS to try to make a statement as to how magically games are associatively as linked to violence as rain is to violence. Since you know, crimes can happy on rainy days. etc.
there's a significant difference here.
put something on MS? There's no way out. It's there and permanently archived. They just "anonymize" after x months, which works out how well again? care to remind me or do I need to link articles?
put something on google? you can take your stuff out. Yes, it's still archived there.
Which of these sounds worse eh? You think MS is going to resist handing over your data for all those bing searches which you praised them for? considering that they made their own website to make it easier for police to not even necessarily have a court order to view your data?
gee now. Really, "in the cloud"? No, I'd say nothing of your data is in the cloud. I'd say it's on your PC, and on a google server. In the cloud is an asinine expression.
Also, google actually lets you see what data they have, so you can remove it. Ever tried that with any google competitor? MS, yahoo, any other search engine?
it helps to actually have logic behind why you try to compare google to MS. You have provided: 0.
Meanwhile, why does google provide better tools? Simple. So you can have better control over your own data. Since when is that a bad thing?
I wonder how much the earthquakes we have play into when they say that old people perceive the days go by faster (along with the synapse stuff)
how does google monopolize the search market by datamining? Is everyone else suddenly losing marketshare on datamining? Google doesn't prevent anyone else from datamining.
last I checked, such a monopoly has never happened, ever.
you know, understanding psychology would help you understand that letting it out physically can make you less calm.
Letting it out emotionally/mentally (constructively) can result in you being more calm.
nah, I was thinking this too. Really if you have a touchpad/keyboard, you're going to have issues of functionality as both of those have entirely separate methods of input. Trying to combine them means one of them is going to have to compromise. in this case, it's a flat panel as opposed to an actual small keyboard.
So my thoughts were that it just isn't realistic. lots of hubbub, and that's it.
That's how I read this too. However, the devil is in the details, which we don't have.
Given that a: usually a bill is introduced with opposite meaning to the statement of the bill if it's done by a bad politician and that b: it could be about the above but introduce some other issues, I'll hold my breath. I also can't find this act anywhere, other than it being mentioned as "to be introduced".
This is a type of bill that could easily be subverted by bad interests depending on who influences it.
well yes, what you state is true, and I agree with your statements. I just mean that using something should (theoretically) increase your knowledge of said something, at least to some degree. Sure, not as much as someone trained or a tinkerer, but etc. That's what I meant.
in the short term? maybe companies don't care if they have to buy software. In the long term? They end up using open source for a multitude of reasons.
Lots of companies are by default, stupid and shortsighted so it is to be expected.
apple only beat estimations versus itself. In reality, you can get significantly more functionality for less if you compare it to any other company that exists.
So yes, if you look through rose tinted glasses, the situation looks rosy. who would have known?
considering people use something, you should be able to expect a rudimentary understanding of those same things which people use. You expect someone who drives a car to understand that they need to change the oil, fill up the gas, etc.
Likewise, you should (note:should) be able to expect people to elect to learn how to get a good virus scanning program, how to tell spoof websites, etc. Meanwhile computers are newer than cars, so it's going to take a while for people to get to that point. People are still getting a grasp on spam email and fake websites/false authentication right now.
It folks don't really dedicate educating users on what you should do routinely, and likewise people don't all change their oil on time.
10 years from now, this will be less of an issue. not now though.
this is not an explanation that's really going to help people understand why linux is overall a better bet (specifically for longevity) than windows.
Try explaining things more simple:
it's more secure
you know what the program does (nothing hidden)
everything is free (and high quality)
if you don't know how to do something it can easily be google'd to find the answer.
etc.
explaining MS's closed repositories is not even a compelling reason for folks who are programmers.
dear god, you're right. it'll be horrible. Not to mention windows only.
The responses that they post are also inaccurate it seems.
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meanwhile, I see a grey rectangle in firefox, and I still don't get what that signifies.
ever tried to get winmo to work with anything other than windows? good luck.
Someday people will wake up to MS's lack of interop. In the meantime for those of us already woken up, we tend to care about such concepts.