Give me 5 minutes in a room with you strapped to a table, using only a simple blowtorch and pliers, and the ability to come back into the room the next day, I am certain I can have you tell me the pin to your ATM card.
You've watched too many James Bond movies. It isn't the location of a dirty bomb that is being asked. It isn't even one question. It is a ton of them, and most of them the torturer already knows the answer to.
You linked to an article that show a situation where torture worked, and imply that it shows it it doesn't work. Based on the article, Jon Burge tortured victims to get them to confess to crimes. They confessed. your misunderstanding of the goals has clearly confused you.
You've watched too many James Bond movies. The victim doesn't know what information the torturer already has. You don't just get one answer from the victim and then wait a month. You ask them a series of questions. Some that you already have the answer to. You may ask them 20 questions where 19 of them, you already know the answer to. Since they don't know which questions you know the answers to, if any, the odds of them being able to lie about the one thing you don't know about while telling the truth about the things you do are neigh impossible.
I would feel bad for you that you live in a country where every person goes through torture resistant training, but since there is no country on earth where this happens, I am going to assume that you are just rationalizing.
That was my point. Torture doesn't work if the person doesn't know the information, or if you can't verify the information. BUT when you can, it certainly can be effective. Asking the right questions is the key to effective torture. Getting 1 confirmable answer and 9 unconfirmable answers is more effective than not getting any answers at all. None of this makes torture ethical, but plugging one's ears and repeating 'not effective...not effective...not effective...' doesn't change the effective/ineffectiveness. There is no question that torture, when properly applied is effective. People who use the claim that it is ineffective as their rational for it being unethical have not made their case.
I have yet to meet a person that would not condone physical harm to someone outside of self defense. Most of us in the first world just rationalize why outsourcing our violence doesn't count. I don't believe that you wouldn't call the cops if a random stranger entered your home and started taking all of your stuff. The cops are by their very nature our outsourcing of violence.
This whole "Torture doesn't work" bit is silly. Of course torture works, IF you are asking the right questions. I have personally seen it work hundreds of times. Every time a kid holds down his little brother and gives him a pink belly until he is told where his GI Joe is hidden, torture has worked. People have this fantasy that information cannot be verified, and that all questions have are a four item multiple choice question where the person being tortured will eventually give all answers.
If you are tortured for the password to a file on your computer, the only way to stop the torture is to give the correct password. Each time you lie, the torturer can try the password, and if it fails, continue to torture you. This would produce effective and reliable results. Conversely, if you were tortured into naming people you know who support your rival faction, your torture will fail. Successfully getting good information out of torture is in asking questions where lying doesn't produce the same results as telling the truth.
Banning torture is a question of ethics. Not effectiveness. "It doesn't work is verifiable false"
If your dedicated to Apple, it looks like the only part that isn't available for use with a MacMini is the LM Remote, and I would be shocked if there isn't an equivalent.
I'm not saying that the situation isn't broken, but you seem to be making it worse than it actually is.
Your video watching would likely be more enjoyable if you got a TV. I only use streaming and DVDs also, but watching those programs on a nice big TV sitting on the couch is a lot more enjoyable than sitting at a desk and watching the same content on a small computer monitor. It isn't even that tough to set up the HTPC to use a regular remote control.
What we see here is two separate issues being lumped into one. On the one hand, you have the shooting. It doesn't sound good for Zimmerman, but then what I have heard about it came from the media. I don't have the facts at this time to make a decision about what happened. I also have not followed the story very closely.
On the other hand, you have the completely separate issue where NBC is performing racist reporting with the clear intent of inciting racial conflict. What NBC reports doesn't change the facts of the shooting. The shooting doesn't change the fact that NBC is a race baiting news organization.
The documented and FREE approach gave crippled access. If the only thing that prevented the Palm from using the same software as the iPhone is the device id, then Apple is intentionally breaking interoperability.
I guess "iTunes ain't done until the Palm don't run!"
An added benefit would be that if you lived in a rural setting, you would have more space for panels and could use the fuel as a storage mechanism for generating electricity at night. It would make off grid solar more reasonable.
Yep, the only carrier that I am aware of that doesn't charge you for the phone as part of the contract price is T-Mobile, and I don't think they have the iPhone.
The "people only use Android because they are poor" argument is stupid. You might as well buy a Cadillac and have gold caps put on your teeth to show how "rich" you are while you are at it. The cost of the phone is a minority part of the cost of owning a smart phone. People buy Android phones because they like them better. I have a work issued iPhone. I leave it on the shelf plugged into the Mac that almost never gets used with the phone number forwarding to my Android phone. Why? Because the iPhone is inferior to my Android phone. It's the same reason I run Windows 7 for day to day use instead of using the Mac. The Mac and iPhone get used for testing purposes, and that is about it.
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Yes, but how many bathrooms?
Logical fallacy: Strawman.
Give me 5 minutes in a room with you strapped to a table, using only a simple blowtorch and pliers, and the ability to come back into the room the next day, I am certain I can have you tell me the pin to your ATM card.
You've watched too many James Bond movies. It isn't the location of a dirty bomb that is being asked. It isn't even one question. It is a ton of them, and most of them the torturer already knows the answer to.
You linked to an article that show a situation where torture worked, and imply that it shows it it doesn't work. Based on the article, Jon Burge tortured victims to get them to confess to crimes. They confessed. your misunderstanding of the goals has clearly confused you.
You've watched too many James Bond movies. The victim doesn't know what information the torturer already has. You don't just get one answer from the victim and then wait a month. You ask them a series of questions. Some that you already have the answer to. You may ask them 20 questions where 19 of them, you already know the answer to. Since they don't know which questions you know the answers to, if any, the odds of them being able to lie about the one thing you don't know about while telling the truth about the things you do are neigh impossible.
I would feel bad for you that you live in a country where every person goes through torture resistant training, but since there is no country on earth where this happens, I am going to assume that you are just rationalizing.
That was my point. Torture doesn't work if the person doesn't know the information, or if you can't verify the information. BUT when you can, it certainly can be effective. Asking the right questions is the key to effective torture. Getting 1 confirmable answer and 9 unconfirmable answers is more effective than not getting any answers at all. None of this makes torture ethical, but plugging one's ears and repeating 'not effective...not effective...not effective...' doesn't change the effective/ineffectiveness. There is no question that torture, when properly applied is effective. People who use the claim that it is ineffective as their rational for it being unethical have not made their case.
I have yet to meet a person that would not condone physical harm to someone outside of self defense. Most of us in the first world just rationalize why outsourcing our violence doesn't count. I don't believe that you wouldn't call the cops if a random stranger entered your home and started taking all of your stuff. The cops are by their very nature our outsourcing of violence.
Invalid definition for this conversation. By your definition, every analog TV in the US stopped being TVs when we switched to digital.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/
This whole "Torture doesn't work" bit is silly. Of course torture works, IF you are asking the right questions. I have personally seen it work hundreds of times. Every time a kid holds down his little brother and gives him a pink belly until he is told where his GI Joe is hidden, torture has worked. People have this fantasy that information cannot be verified, and that all questions have are a four item multiple choice question where the person being tortured will eventually give all answers.
If you are tortured for the password to a file on your computer, the only way to stop the torture is to give the correct password. Each time you lie, the torturer can try the password, and if it fails, continue to torture you. This would produce effective and reliable results. Conversely, if you were tortured into naming people you know who support your rival faction, your torture will fail. Successfully getting good information out of torture is in asking questions where lying doesn't produce the same results as telling the truth.
Banning torture is a question of ethics. Not effectiveness. "It doesn't work is verifiable false"
Then telling people you "don't have a TV" is a miscommunication. The rest of world would call your setup a "TV".
Basically what we need mandatory licensing like Radio.
... NBC is performing racist reporting with the clear intent of inciting racial conflict
Or perhaps they just want to play on people's emotions so they get a better story?
There is nothing contradictory between these two statements.
Getting all of your content on one box is absolutly available. Get a low power quite PC:
$330 Acer Revo
$300 Lenovo
Both of these have HDMI out, so the audio and video will connect natively to your TV with a single cable.
Buy a MCE remote:
$25 With learning capabilities
Install:
Hulu Desktop app that can be controlled with the above remote
iTunes. It is the one piece that likely won't be totally seamless, but will work, and button mapping should be easy enough.
$20 LM Remote lets you map any button on the remote so you can have one button switching between players
Windows 7 includes Media Center that has a Netflix plugin and can be controlled with the above remote.
If your dedicated to Apple, it looks like the only part that isn't available for use with a MacMini is the LM Remote, and I would be shocked if there isn't an equivalent.
I'm not saying that the situation isn't broken, but you seem to be making it worse than it actually is.
Your video watching would likely be more enjoyable if you got a TV. I only use streaming and DVDs also, but watching those programs on a nice big TV sitting on the couch is a lot more enjoyable than sitting at a desk and watching the same content on a small computer monitor. It isn't even that tough to set up the HTPC to use a regular remote control.
What we see here is two separate issues being lumped into one. On the one hand, you have the shooting. It doesn't sound good for Zimmerman, but then what I have heard about it came from the media. I don't have the facts at this time to make a decision about what happened. I also have not followed the story very closely.
On the other hand, you have the completely separate issue where NBC is performing racist reporting with the clear intent of inciting racial conflict. What NBC reports doesn't change the facts of the shooting. The shooting doesn't change the fact that NBC is a race baiting news organization.
Not exactly. It isn't known if any particular "girl" puts out. It IS know that your mom does.
C. Call the police and let them handle it.
What country do you come from where it is the schools job to investigate rape cults?
If believing that helps you sleep at night, good for you.
The documented and FREE approach gave crippled access. If the only thing that prevented the Palm from using the same software as the iPhone is the device id, then Apple is intentionally breaking interoperability.
I guess "iTunes ain't done until the Palm don't run!"
An added benefit would be that if you lived in a rural setting, you would have more space for panels and could use the fuel as a storage mechanism for generating electricity at night. It would make off grid solar more reasonable.
Thank you for perfectly illustrating the Apple fanboy position.
I vote we blame the paracetamol.
Yes, yes, yes. You think white people are evil. We get it.
Yep, the only carrier that I am aware of that doesn't charge you for the phone as part of the contract price is T-Mobile, and I don't think they have the iPhone.
The "people only use Android because they are poor" argument is stupid. You might as well buy a Cadillac and have gold caps put on your teeth to show how "rich" you are while you are at it. The cost of the phone is a minority part of the cost of owning a smart phone. People buy Android phones because they like them better. I have a work issued iPhone. I leave it on the shelf plugged into the Mac that almost never gets used with the phone number forwarding to my Android phone. Why? Because the iPhone is inferior to my Android phone. It's the same reason I run Windows 7 for day to day use instead of using the Mac. The Mac and iPhone get used for testing purposes, and that is about it.