There are many patches of earth in my back yard that I have not set foot on. There are no doubt many living things in those patches of dirt. The fact that I have not interacted with he insignificant life forms in the out of the way places of my back yard in no way implies that I don't exist.
The problem is WAY worse for those of use that are not body builders. For example, the same CDC page says that I am at a "normal" weight at -20% body fat.
As for the name calling, you seem to think that not believing your incorrect statements is the definition of lying, and get really offended when people make correct statements.
Further, YOU are the one who tried to claim that "eating carbs is eating fat".
Since you didn't seem to remember making the staetment, and think that I made the statement, I looked up 4 posts and found it was actually sirwired that made the statement. I pointed out that it was an illegitimate statement, and that was when you chimed in with obnoxious comments about not being obnoxious.
Of course, given how "obese" and "overweight" are defined, sometimes the "overweight" ARE the deathly skinny. Given my lean body mass, my "normal" body weight is between 3% and -%15 body fat.
My impression is that intelligence is a grid that gets added to the education grid. With intellegence, you have memorization, and critical thinking. Many people can memorize huge amounts of information, but the can't grasp how the different parts work together. Others can't remember things as well, but can reanalyze information, so what they do remember can be used in new or old forgotten ways. They are both sliding scales which means that some people are good at both, some people are good at neither, and some people are good at every other combination of the two.
That is the physical potential side of it. The other side is education. that works the same way, but uses will and access for it's axis. Add them together and you end up with how 'smart' a person is.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. The examples they gave of "only having a primary school education" should have been "don't even have close to a primary school education". Does primary school end much earlier in the UK than it does in the US? Because my 7 year old can do the examples they give without difficulty. Their solution sounds like a case of throwing good time after bad. If you can't add/subtract/multiply and divide by the age of 12, another 6 years isn't likely going to make a difference.
Any being that is capable of traveling between star systems would certainly meet your definition of 'Gods'. The ones that evolved to where we are wouldn't be out tripping around the universe. We would seem like gods to our own species from a hundred or two years ago. The line between "us" and "gods" is actually pretty thin.
I have watched the animated series. In the cartoons, you had giant robots that had big plates of metal as armor. In the movies you had giant robots with vast amounts of intricately moving parts that are completely exposed. The robots in the movie look like you could take them out with a well placed stick.
There are many patches of earth in my back yard that I have not set foot on. There are no doubt many living things in those patches of dirt. The fact that I have not interacted with he insignificant life forms in the out of the way places of my back yard in no way implies that I don't exist.
Teacher can home school their kids in a number of ways. Some just instruct their kids outside of public school hours. Some have spouses that handle the instruction during school hours. Some are substitutes so they only work part time. The whole situation makes more sense when you consider that home schooling is so much more efficient that in younger ages, it is easy for home schooled kids to surpass their public school peers with only an hour or two of formal instruction a day. Home schooling also will typically not be restricted to "school time". Home schooling families will take every opportunity to have impromptu lessons day and night. One of the common lessons that are taught to home schooled children is how to learn. Thus, by the time the kids are middle school aged, most of their school work can be done without constant supervision.
No you don't need a degree to be a teacher.
According to your link:
Highest education level of parents
High school diploma or less: 206,000
Vocational/technical or some college: 549,000
Bachelor's degree/some graduate school: 502,000
Graduate/professional degree: 251,000
That is 755,000 and 753,000 respectively. That isn't 60%.
You admit that you don't have any data, you acknowledge that you don't know how the teaching gets done, but you assume that I have confirmation bias. I think it is fair to say that the actual polls I have been involved in are a more reliable source than your stereotype hearsay.
Calling you out on your intellectually dishonest statement where you tried to claim that eating carbs is really eating fat is not "Obnoxious". Asking for a reference while implying that when it is presented, it doesn't count IS obnoxious. The fact is that pretty much every Mr Universe is now classified as "Obese", and that means the word no longer has meaning. Besides, your claim that "It's only recently that we are seeing the kind of science-fiction fat that is common." isn't even accurate. It is made up.
The carbs in french fries are the same as the carbs in home made pasta. The fat in french fries are something different. The fact that you don't know this shows that YOU clearly have very little knowledge about nutrition OR the English language. That fact that I pointed out your intellectually dishonest argument and stopped there doesn't mean the rest of your post isn't wrong. When you blatently misrepresent the issue, there isn't much point in analyzing your whole post.
A cop in San Francisco shoots a guy (in the back), and kills him while he's laying face-down and handcuffed, and he gets a relative slap on the wrist....AND he wouldn't have gotten THAT if the police had managed to round up all the phone videos of the incident, as they tried to. You or I would spend the rest of our lives in prison had either of us done that.
Not only would the shooter go to prison, but so would the accomplices that helped him by trying to destroy the evidence. That is why I don't believe in the mythical "Good" cop. A cop that witnesses another know commit a crime and does not arrest him is an accomplice. If even 25% of a police force are directly committing crimes, there is no way that any of the cops in that station are clean.
I suppose it is technically possible that there are tiny little towns that are clean because they only have one or two officers, but the number must be so small as to be statistically insignificant.
That is possible, but it doesn't change the fact that you are not going to convince anyone of your position by suggesting that they can live like they are in a third world.
While I have not hear of any wide scale formal surveys on job position of homeschooling parents, I have been in many homeschool conferences and every poll taken has put traditional teachers at >5%. You can declare 'anecdote' if you want, but unless you have any sources that contradict it, I cite myself to be a source. My counting of many hundreds of homeschooling parents in a poll on that very subject is my data.
This is exactly why people get bad information. I point out that every Mr. Universe is considered "obese", and your response is that they have "things other than fat to worry about". We are not discussing other things. We are discussing fat. Our current government/medical/insurance industry claim that every Mr Universe has had too much body fat, and should have eaten less and gotten more exercise.
OK, so try restating your position in a more legitimate way. Saying that eating carbs (french fries and soda) is less healthy than eating carbs derails any point you are tying to make.
You joke, but if you ask a chick to come back to your place to watch your 3DTV and she says yes, I expect your chances of getting some to be pretty darn high. At that point, the two of you are just going through the motions, and are not even trying to make a good excuse for her to go back to your place.
Your rant would sound better if the nice lady down the street wasn't a public school teacher. You are likely unaware of this, but public school teachers make up a disproportionally high percentage of home schoolers. Care to guess why?
It probably will take decades. Mostly because people are being given wrong information. For example, your McDonalds comment. A McDonalds Quarter Pounder is not bad for you. The Pasta you made at home is. People are buying candy as health food because it is "Fat Free". Then you have the problem that "obesity" is so incorrectly defined that every Mr Universe for decades has been defined as "obese" while people who reduce their BMI by replacing muscle with fat are being patted on the back for "getting in shape".
Ok, maybe a hundred or two is to short of a time for that statement. Lets say 4 to 5 hundred years ago then. the point still stands.
No problem. The chart is not exactly clear.
There are many patches of earth in my back yard that I have not set foot on. There are no doubt many living things in those patches of dirt. The fact that I have not interacted with he insignificant life forms in the out of the way places of my back yard in no way implies that I don't exist.
The problem is WAY worse for those of use that are not body builders. For example, the same CDC page says that I am at a "normal" weight at -20% body fat.
As for the name calling, you seem to think that not believing your incorrect statements is the definition of lying, and get really offended when people make correct statements.
Further, YOU are the one who tried to claim that "eating carbs is eating fat".
Since you didn't seem to remember making the staetment, and think that I made the statement, I looked up 4 posts and found it was actually sirwired that made the statement. I pointed out that it was an illegitimate statement, and that was when you chimed in with obnoxious comments about not being obnoxious.
Of course, given how "obese" and "overweight" are defined, sometimes the "overweight" ARE the deathly skinny. Given my lean body mass, my "normal" body weight is between 3% and -%15 body fat.
My impression is that intelligence is a grid that gets added to the education grid. With intellegence, you have memorization, and critical thinking. Many people can memorize huge amounts of information, but the can't grasp how the different parts work together. Others can't remember things as well, but can reanalyze information, so what they do remember can be used in new or old forgotten ways. They are both sliding scales which means that some people are good at both, some people are good at neither, and some people are good at every other combination of the two.
That is the physical potential side of it. The other side is education. that works the same way, but uses will and access for it's axis. Add them together and you end up with how 'smart' a person is.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. The examples they gave of "only having a primary school education" should have been "don't even have close to a primary school education". Does primary school end much earlier in the UK than it does in the US? Because my 7 year old can do the examples they give without difficulty. Their solution sounds like a case of throwing good time after bad. If you can't add/subtract/multiply and divide by the age of 12, another 6 years isn't likely going to make a difference.
Scale. Life may very well be common when you look at it from a universal scale.
Any being that is capable of traveling between star systems would certainly meet your definition of 'Gods'. The ones that evolved to where we are wouldn't be out tripping around the universe. We would seem like gods to our own species from a hundred or two years ago. The line between "us" and "gods" is actually pretty thin.
If you want to understand the true suckage that is the Star Trek movie, here is a good review that explains it.
http://www.theonion.com/video/trekkies-bash-new-star-trek-film-as-fun-watchable,14333/
I have watched the animated series. In the cartoons, you had giant robots that had big plates of metal as armor. In the movies you had giant robots with vast amounts of intricately moving parts that are completely exposed. The robots in the movie look like you could take them out with a well placed stick.
There are many patches of earth in my back yard that I have not set foot on. There are no doubt many living things in those patches of dirt. The fact that I have not interacted with he insignificant life forms in the out of the way places of my back yard in no way implies that I don't exist.
That's OK, as snarky goes, yours isn't to bad.
Teacher can home school their kids in a number of ways. Some just instruct their kids outside of public school hours. Some have spouses that handle the instruction during school hours. Some are substitutes so they only work part time. The whole situation makes more sense when you consider that home schooling is so much more efficient that in younger ages, it is easy for home schooled kids to surpass their public school peers with only an hour or two of formal instruction a day. Home schooling also will typically not be restricted to "school time". Home schooling families will take every opportunity to have impromptu lessons day and night. One of the common lessons that are taught to home schooled children is how to learn. Thus, by the time the kids are middle school aged, most of their school work can be done without constant supervision.
No you don't need a degree to be a teacher.
According to your link:
Highest education level of parents
High school diploma or less: 206,000
Vocational/technical or some college: 549,000
Bachelor's degree/some graduate school: 502,000
Graduate/professional degree: 251,000
That is 755,000 and 753,000 respectively. That isn't 60%.
You admit that you don't have any data, you acknowledge that you don't know how the teaching gets done, but you assume that I have confirmation bias. I think it is fair to say that the actual polls I have been involved in are a more reliable source than your stereotype hearsay.
And just for fun, a joke being passed around within the homeschool community:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/432369_10150612179439643_300588559642_9025678_1552413540_n.jpg
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/schwarzenegger.html
Height: 6' 2"
Off Season Weight: 260 lbs
Competition Weight: 235 lbs
http://stanfordhospital.org/clinicsmedServices/COE/surgicalServices/generalSurgery/bariatricsurgery/resources/bmi_calculator.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=body%20mass%20index&utm_content=!acq!v2!s-b-13529620060-1678836940&utm_campaign=Bariatric+-+Search&gclid=CKKEoK2ayK4CFaJeTAodUWZV-w
Calling you out on your intellectually dishonest statement where you tried to claim that eating carbs is really eating fat is not "Obnoxious". Asking for a reference while implying that when it is presented, it doesn't count IS obnoxious. The fact is that pretty much every Mr Universe is now classified as "Obese", and that means the word no longer has meaning. Besides, your claim that "It's only recently that we are seeing the kind of science-fiction fat that is common." isn't even accurate. It is made up.
The carbs in french fries are the same as the carbs in home made pasta. The fat in french fries are something different. The fact that you don't know this shows that YOU clearly have very little knowledge about nutrition OR the English language. That fact that I pointed out your intellectually dishonest argument and stopped there doesn't mean the rest of your post isn't wrong. When you blatently misrepresent the issue, there isn't much point in analyzing your whole post.
A cop in San Francisco shoots a guy (in the back), and kills him while he's laying face-down and handcuffed, and he gets a relative slap on the wrist....AND he wouldn't have gotten THAT if the police had managed to round up all the phone videos of the incident, as they tried to. You or I would spend the rest of our lives in prison had either of us done that.
Not only would the shooter go to prison, but so would the accomplices that helped him by trying to destroy the evidence. That is why I don't believe in the mythical "Good" cop. A cop that witnesses another know commit a crime and does not arrest him is an accomplice. If even 25% of a police force are directly committing crimes, there is no way that any of the cops in that station are clean.
I suppose it is technically possible that there are tiny little towns that are clean because they only have one or two officers, but the number must be so small as to be statistically insignificant.
That is possible, but it doesn't change the fact that you are not going to convince anyone of your position by suggesting that they can live like they are in a third world.
While I have not hear of any wide scale formal surveys on job position of homeschooling parents, I have been in many homeschool conferences and every poll taken has put traditional teachers at >5%. You can declare 'anecdote' if you want, but unless you have any sources that contradict it, I cite myself to be a source. My counting of many hundreds of homeschooling parents in a poll on that very subject is my data.
This is exactly why people get bad information. I point out that every Mr. Universe is considered "obese", and your response is that they have "things other than fat to worry about". We are not discussing other things. We are discussing fat. Our current government/medical/insurance industry claim that every Mr Universe has had too much body fat, and should have eaten less and gotten more exercise.
OK, so try restating your position in a more legitimate way. Saying that eating carbs (french fries and soda) is less healthy than eating carbs derails any point you are tying to make.
Right or wrong, you are not going to convince anyone of your position by suggesting that they can live like they are in the third world.
You joke, but if you ask a chick to come back to your place to watch your 3DTV and she says yes, I expect your chances of getting some to be pretty darn high. At that point, the two of you are just going through the motions, and are not even trying to make a good excuse for her to go back to your place.
Your rant would sound better if the nice lady down the street wasn't a public school teacher. You are likely unaware of this, but public school teachers make up a disproportionally high percentage of home schoolers. Care to guess why?
It probably will take decades. Mostly because people are being given wrong information. For example, your McDonalds comment. A McDonalds Quarter Pounder is not bad for you. The Pasta you made at home is. People are buying candy as health food because it is "Fat Free". Then you have the problem that "obesity" is so incorrectly defined that every Mr Universe for decades has been defined as "obese" while people who reduce their BMI by replacing muscle with fat are being patted on the back for "getting in shape".
Rice is 80% sugar, and it is ridiculous to try and equate popularity of food with a lack of sugar.