The problem with deleting spam is simply, who gets to delete it?
Is it CT&H? Everybody who can post articles? Moderators with 50 karma? Any moderator?
Besides, at that point instead of obvious spam, we would get questionable borderline spam, and god forbid if that gets deleted, then we'll have entire threads full of "/. is censoring us!"
Not that I'm an expert on this, but I think the problem is that it would be a major headache for them in the *short* term.
A lot of people like to see their karma go up, its kind of like positive reinforcement for doing a good thing. Like when I moderate, a few days later its nice to sometimes see my karma go up a couple points (if the meta-modder liked what I did anyway). Same thing with making posts that get rated up to 4 or 5, its nice to see the karma increase.
Is it necessary? No. But its nice.
Long term, people could probably get used to not seeing it, but short term it would make a lot of people upset by taking away a little thing that they like.
CT&H probably don't want to have to deal with all those upset people, and I can't say I blame them.
Opera's CSS1 support is top notch (its currently the best *release* browser for Windows in terms of CSS1 support), and CSS2 is pretty good with some problems.
The DOM support is severely lacking at best. Its hard to find out just what it supports, but I don't believe even DOM 1 is really implemented yet.
Apparently, we can expect that to drastically change when the next big release comes up (which I believe will be 4.5). Considering the way that 3.5 went from no CSS to one of the best implementations in Windows in a single release, I think they can pull it off.
I have something of a testbed box that occasionally does real world stuff, and it was running RH6.2 quite flawlessly as a mail server with exim (which I even compiled myself, wow I feel so cool, hehe).
It was working great. I wanted to update it, so I redirected mail traffic to the NT mailserver (which I use when my exim one isn't up), and tried to do an update using an over-the-lan FTP install from another machine which had everything downloaded. (thats the only real way to get files to this box, its got no cdrom, I don't have a burner, etc)
Oops.
That rather happily trashed my existing install and made it unbootable by mysteriously dying halfway through. Couldn't get things to come back properly after that.
No big deal, its a testbed box really. So I trashed it, and did a clean install.
Got things back up and running smoothly. Got OpenSSH running again smoothly. Gotta say I like Sawfish. Tried to compile a 2.2.17 kernel to get rid of a lot of the crap that comes by default with RH that I just don't want.
With all kinds of wacky warnings and errors, that failed.
No biggie, figuring something was just wacky, I went back to 2.2.16 that had been working so well for me in RH6.2.
That will compile, but when I do "make modules", there is some other wacky "pasting token" errors, and it fails.
By now I'm starting to get a bit frustrated. Not being a programmer, I don't really know what to do. It just worked before, and now it just doesn't.
So how does this get filed? If there is a bug, I have no idea just where it is. Maybe its in the new version of GCC, maybe its somewhere else. I don't know, and I don't know how to find out. But somewhere, something is wrong, since it worked flawlessly on 6.2 not three hours earlier. I don't think its anything I did, since I did a clean install this system is very much a stock install and not like the ragtag wacky mix of stuff that my 6.2 install had become.
So I dunno, I'm finding it to be a nice release with this one very nagging issue. Everything else has been flawless (well, OpenSSH doesn't like public key encryption if strictmode is on, but I think I'm doing something wrong there).
Tomorrow, I'll go over the bug reports and see if there is something about this happening to somebody else.
I will say that aside from compiling stuff, I'm really liking RH7.0.
(tomorrow I'm also going to see if I can compile exim, if I can't do that, then I'll probabl have to drop back down to RH6.2 until this can be figured out, because I really prefer exim over the NT mailserver I've got working right now.)
Do you think the average person actually gives a rats ass *how* the computer works?
Looking around the office here, nobody really cares how the computer works. They care only that it does or doesn't work, and they pay me to care about details like "how".
The home market is the same way, people have better things to do with their time then care about just how their OS does anything. So long as it does it, they don't care. Just like a lot of people don't care about how the engine in their car works, provided that it does. They have a mechanic who worries about the details.
How many of us care about the details of how the phone works? I don't even think about it unless the phone isn't working for some reason.
Microsoft understands this. They're tuned into the average user home market, the people who want the computer to do what its supposed to do and not bother them with the details of "how". That may not make Windows a very good geek OS, but its precisely why its good for the other 90% of the market.
My mom is going to love Whistler when she sees these screenshots, because it looks neat and things are easy to find. And thats the market MS wants, because of how much bigger it is.
3dfx's linux support is something of a myth
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3dfx Voodoo 5 Review
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· Score: 3
From page 10 in the article:
"A note on Linux performance
We managed to get pretty far down the road of testing the Voodoo 5 using XFree86 4.x with Linux before we discovered that 3dfx's current X drivers don't support dual-chip operation with the V5. That means no SLI mode and no FSAA, either. At that point, we decided to forego benchmarking the V5 in Linux until the drivers have some time to mature. 3dfx has committed to open source principles and to Linux support, and we have every reason to believe they'll continue their tradition of decent Linux support. But it ain't there yet."
Gee, no problem, I'm only missing one of my two cpu's, and half the memory. I wonder if that means I still need the external power?
So the v5's linux support is about as good as Win9x's support for a dual processor system, that being you only get half of what your trying to use.
Funny how the GeForce2 GTS's Linux scores are within 99% of the Windows scores.
All of the settlements I have heard of so far were foreign companies who have a track record of not really fighting american companies in american courts anyway.
That changes with Micron, who have far more of a level playing field.
They're the ones we should be watching. Micron has the best chance of winning. If they do, that will quickly turn things around and these settlements will stop happening. If they settle, well, then everybody who is left is likely to.
Most likely its set so high that it'll either never be reached, or if it does get reached, he'll be so loaded that he wont care about the site anymore anyway.
It is kind of interesting to see just how high this auction will go though.
People hate Rambus because there was an attempt to force it down their throats when nobody wanted it. Thankfully that effort was largely crushed and is a good deal of the reason why AMD is doing so well these days.
After that didn't work, Rambus went out and started suing SDRAM makers, with the basic idea being to get royalties for no real reason other then that they own patents which they shouldn't own in the first place. They wanted to make money off their overpriced Ram, and that didn't work, so now they want to make money off the backs of the SDRAM makers without actually doing anything to earn it except for having aggressive lawyers.
Yeah, thats really the kind of thing we want to encourage.
3dfx also sued anyone who tried to make a glide wrapper, as well as sued nvidia over patents not to long ago.
If anything, their open source driver is a publicity stunt aimed at getting support because they cant get it from their products, where nvidia completely destroys them.
I mean come on, their last good card was the Voodoo2. I happen to like things like 32bit color.
Toms opinion hasn't changed, depending on how you look at it, he is either biased, or seriously Pissed Off at Intel, and it does come through in what he writes.
Of course, this time apparently he was right.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Hard OCP article had something to do with this, apparently they had an Intel Engineer there to watch as the Kernel failed to compile rather dramatically.
You know, he probably went back to Intel HQ and mentioned this little problem.
Of course, it could be that Dell simply couldn't find a way to make a system using these things that was at all stable, and they complained to Intel quietly about it.
I wonder if the problem with Intel right now is simply that they're trying too hard.
Maybe they're trying to stay ahead of AMD, and thats causing them to do things more quickly then they should, resulting in mistakes. It probably can't be good for morale over there to see that seemingly out of nowhere AMD has come in and almost taken over the high end single cpu market.
So the guys at Intel simply want to be better then AMD, but they don't have time to do what that would actually require (some pretty major architechture changes), and so we end up with stuff like this P3, since they have to release *something*.
I bet if management were to walk down there and say "ok, we're not going to release anything new for the next few months, I want you guys to take as much time as you need to redesign things so we're on top again", they could probably do it.
Of course, they aren't being given a mandate like that.
AFAIK, they aren't really behind at all, because its a faster cpu clock for clock.
So sure, you may only have 500mhz, but if you can do twice as much with 1mhz then an Intel cpu can, then really there is actually no difference except that one sounds nicer on a box.
I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the situation is something like that.
Unless of course you look at RC5 benchmarks, the Altivec PPC's just destroy anything Intel can make.
I've got an Angel 6700, and at first I did get the 3 hours of normal operation out of it I was promised. (it was neat playing on the internet during power failures for a couple hours:-) )
Of course now that the battery is two years old and basically worn out, I get around ten minutes.
First of all, its Mozilla news, which regularly gets posted here.
Second of all, a very large number of posters here are primarily Windows users and are interested in this kind of thing.
Combine the two, and you get news worth posting.
What I'd be really interested in seeing is the actual OS stats on visitors here. I've heard from several people that when a site gets slashdotted, a majority of the hits are IE on Windows, I wonder if the actual stats are the same.
Although I guess the question is what is Slashdot? Is it a Linux news page, a Linux zealots home, or is there room for the occasional open source windows browser too?
I'm afraid I don't have an answer for that one, as I'm not the guy who posts news.
Funny how when I click that mail button, it opens *Eudora*.
I don't have Outlook or Outlook Express installed, there is this really neat option at install time to turn OE off, and same thing with Outlook when you install Office.
Gee, there's some massive integration for you, they're entirely seperate programs!
See, now Netscape mail is integrated, I can't choose to not install it during the Communicator installation. No matter what, its there. Outlook Express I can quite easily get rid of, and tell IE to use Eudora, or Agent, or The Bat, or whatever other mail program happens to interest me today.
Apparently both you and the moderators haven't actually gone and looked yet.
Slashdot Mirror
The problem with deleting spam is simply, who gets to delete it?
Is it CT&H? Everybody who can post articles? Moderators with 50 karma? Any moderator?
Besides, at that point instead of obvious spam, we would get questionable borderline spam, and god forbid if that gets deleted, then we'll have entire threads full of "/. is censoring us!"
Its more trouble then its worth.
Not that I'm an expert on this, but I think the problem is that it would be a major headache for them in the *short* term.
A lot of people like to see their karma go up, its kind of like positive reinforcement for doing a good thing. Like when I moderate, a few days later its nice to sometimes see my karma go up a couple points (if the meta-modder liked what I did anyway). Same thing with making posts that get rated up to 4 or 5, its nice to see the karma increase.
Is it necessary? No. But its nice.
Long term, people could probably get used to not seeing it, but short term it would make a lot of people upset by taking away a little thing that they like.
CT&H probably don't want to have to deal with all those upset people, and I can't say I blame them.
Opera's CSS1 support is top notch (its currently the best *release* browser for Windows in terms of CSS1 support), and CSS2 is pretty good with some problems.
The DOM support is severely lacking at best. Its hard to find out just what it supports, but I don't believe even DOM 1 is really implemented yet.
Apparently, we can expect that to drastically change when the next big release comes up (which I believe will be 4.5). Considering the way that 3.5 went from no CSS to one of the best implementations in Windows in a single release, I think they can pull it off.
- A frequenter of the opera newsgroups.
That was the goal at one point, but that was before they decided to throw everything but the kitchen sink into the browser.
At this point, its something of a lost cause to try and prevent bloat in NS6.
Ahh, thanks!
I have something of a testbed box that occasionally does real world stuff, and it was running RH6.2 quite flawlessly as a mail server with exim (which I even compiled myself, wow I feel so cool, hehe).
:)
It was working great. I wanted to update it, so I redirected mail traffic to the NT mailserver (which I use when my exim one isn't up), and tried to do an update using an over-the-lan FTP install from another machine which had everything downloaded. (thats the only real way to get files to this box, its got no cdrom, I don't have a burner, etc)
Oops.
That rather happily trashed my existing install and made it unbootable by mysteriously dying halfway through. Couldn't get things to come back properly after that.
No big deal, its a testbed box really. So I trashed it, and did a clean install.
Got things back up and running smoothly. Got OpenSSH running again smoothly. Gotta say I like Sawfish. Tried to compile a 2.2.17 kernel to get rid of a lot of the crap that comes by default with RH that I just don't want.
With all kinds of wacky warnings and errors, that failed.
No biggie, figuring something was just wacky, I went back to 2.2.16 that had been working so well for me in RH6.2.
That will compile, but when I do "make modules", there is some other wacky "pasting token" errors, and it fails.
By now I'm starting to get a bit frustrated. Not being a programmer, I don't really know what to do. It just worked before, and now it just doesn't.
So how does this get filed? If there is a bug, I have no idea just where it is. Maybe its in the new version of GCC, maybe its somewhere else. I don't know, and I don't know how to find out. But somewhere, something is wrong, since it worked flawlessly on 6.2 not three hours earlier. I don't think its anything I did, since I did a clean install this system is very much a stock install and not like the ragtag wacky mix of stuff that my 6.2 install had become.
So I dunno, I'm finding it to be a nice release with this one very nagging issue. Everything else has been flawless (well, OpenSSH doesn't like public key encryption if strictmode is on, but I think I'm doing something wrong there).
Tomorrow, I'll go over the bug reports and see if there is something about this happening to somebody else.
I will say that aside from compiling stuff, I'm really liking RH7.0.
(tomorrow I'm also going to see if I can compile exim, if I can't do that, then I'll probabl have to drop back down to RH6.2 until this can be figured out, because I really prefer exim over the NT mailserver I've got working right now.)
sorry about the rambling nature, its late.
Must be some newbie moderators who weren't around back in the days of the IBM PS/2 or something.
Yeesh.
Do you think the average person actually gives a rats ass *how* the computer works?
Looking around the office here, nobody really cares how the computer works. They care only that it does or doesn't work, and they pay me to care about details like "how".
The home market is the same way, people have better things to do with their time then care about just how their OS does anything. So long as it does it, they don't care. Just like a lot of people don't care about how the engine in their car works, provided that it does. They have a mechanic who worries about the details.
How many of us care about the details of how the phone works? I don't even think about it unless the phone isn't working for some reason.
Microsoft understands this. They're tuned into the average user home market, the people who want the computer to do what its supposed to do and not bother them with the details of "how". That may not make Windows a very good geek OS, but its precisely why its good for the other 90% of the market.
My mom is going to love Whistler when she sees these screenshots, because it looks neat and things are easy to find. And thats the market MS wants, because of how much bigger it is.
From page 10 in the article:
"A note on Linux performance
We managed to get pretty far down the road of testing the Voodoo 5 using XFree86 4.x with Linux before we discovered that 3dfx's current X drivers don't support dual-chip operation with the V5. That means no SLI mode and no FSAA, either. At that point, we decided to forego benchmarking the V5 in Linux until the drivers have some time to mature. 3dfx has committed to open source principles and to Linux support, and we have every reason to believe they'll continue their tradition of decent Linux support. But it ain't there yet."
Gee, no problem, I'm only missing one of my two cpu's, and half the memory. I wonder if that means I still need the external power?
So the v5's linux support is about as good as Win9x's support for a dual processor system, that being you only get half of what your trying to use.
Funny how the GeForce2 GTS's Linux scores are within 99% of the Windows scores.
But then, what do I know?
All of the settlements I have heard of so far were foreign companies who have a track record of not really fighting american companies in american courts anyway.
That changes with Micron, who have far more of a level playing field.
They're the ones we should be watching. Micron has the best chance of winning. If they do, that will quickly turn things around and these settlements will stop happening. If they settle, well, then everybody who is left is likely to.
So all those icq people count towards the AOL numbers.
What better way to learn how to deal with these kinds of things then actually build a site and try to deal with it?
I doubt CT and Hemos were experts when they started slashdot either, but they learned from it. So will pud.
Most likely its set so high that it'll either never be reached, or if it does get reached, he'll be so loaded that he wont care about the site anymore anyway.
It is kind of interesting to see just how high this auction will go though.
nothing to see here
its at least score 2 interesting. :)
especially when the suggestion has some merit, although we don't need to shoot Micron.
although I submitted it a lot later, hehe.
:-)
Apparently these things get pretty queued up, so the first person to submit it may have done so a long time ago.
Ah well, I'm still happy with the one story that got posted with my name attached to it.
People hate Rambus because there was an attempt to force it down their throats when nobody wanted it. Thankfully that effort was largely crushed and is a good deal of the reason why AMD is doing so well these days.
After that didn't work, Rambus went out and started suing SDRAM makers, with the basic idea being to get royalties for no real reason other then that they own patents which they shouldn't own in the first place. They wanted to make money off their overpriced Ram, and that didn't work, so now they want to make money off the backs of the SDRAM makers without actually doing anything to earn it except for having aggressive lawyers.
Yeah, thats really the kind of thing we want to encourage.
3dfx also sued anyone who tried to make a glide wrapper, as well as sued nvidia over patents not to long ago.
If anything, their open source driver is a publicity stunt aimed at getting support because they cant get it from their products, where nvidia completely destroys them.
I mean come on, their last good card was the Voodoo2. I happen to like things like 32bit color.
Toms opinion hasn't changed, depending on how you look at it, he is either biased, or seriously Pissed Off at Intel, and it does come through in what he writes.
Of course, this time apparently he was right.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Hard OCP article had something to do with this, apparently they had an Intel Engineer there to watch as the Kernel failed to compile rather dramatically.
You know, he probably went back to Intel HQ and mentioned this little problem.
Of course, it could be that Dell simply couldn't find a way to make a system using these things that was at all stable, and they complained to Intel quietly about it.
I wonder if the problem with Intel right now is simply that they're trying too hard.
Maybe they're trying to stay ahead of AMD, and thats causing them to do things more quickly then they should, resulting in mistakes. It probably can't be good for morale over there to see that seemingly out of nowhere AMD has come in and almost taken over the high end single cpu market.
So the guys at Intel simply want to be better then AMD, but they don't have time to do what that would actually require (some pretty major architechture changes), and so we end up with stuff like this P3, since they have to release *something*.
I bet if management were to walk down there and say "ok, we're not going to release anything new for the next few months, I want you guys to take as much time as you need to redesign things so we're on top again", they could probably do it.
Of course, they aren't being given a mandate like that.
AFAIK, they aren't really behind at all, because its a faster cpu clock for clock.
So sure, you may only have 500mhz, but if you can do twice as much with 1mhz then an Intel cpu can, then really there is actually no difference except that one sounds nicer on a box.
I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the situation is something like that.
Unless of course you look at RC5 benchmarks, the Altivec PPC's just destroy anything Intel can make.
I've got an Angel 6700, and at first I did get the 3 hours of normal operation out of it I was promised. (it was neat playing on the internet during power failures for a couple hours :-) )
Of course now that the battery is two years old and basically worn out, I get around ten minutes.
First of all, its Mozilla news, which regularly gets posted here.
Second of all, a very large number of posters here are primarily Windows users and are interested in this kind of thing.
Combine the two, and you get news worth posting.
What I'd be really interested in seeing is the actual OS stats on visitors here. I've heard from several people that when a site gets slashdotted, a majority of the hits are IE on Windows, I wonder if the actual stats are the same.
Although I guess the question is what is Slashdot? Is it a Linux news page, a Linux zealots home, or is there room for the occasional open source windows browser too?
I'm afraid I don't have an answer for that one, as I'm not the guy who posts news.
Common misconception that is.
Funny how when I click that mail button, it opens *Eudora*.
I don't have Outlook or Outlook Express installed, there is this really neat option at install time to turn OE off, and same thing with Outlook when you install Office.
Gee, there's some massive integration for you, they're entirely seperate programs!
See, now Netscape mail is integrated, I can't choose to not install it during the Communicator installation. No matter what, its there. Outlook Express I can quite easily get rid of, and tell IE to use Eudora, or Agent, or The Bat, or whatever other mail program happens to interest me today.
Apparently both you and the moderators haven't actually gone and looked yet.