That wasn't a response to just the grandparent post in particular, I had browsed all the recent comments that he made and found several times he's made good critiques of the knee-jerk liberal reaction that you must admit is a decent percentage of slashdot comments. liberal FUD is FUD just the same to me, and I appreciate the help dispelling mistruths I'm likely to beleive.
>His point has some validity, but to elevate him to Dispenser of Wisdom, Destroyer of Bullshit, is just absurd.
Again, my opinion was not based on that one post, but a pattern in all prior posts i could see. The job title you've invented is a little too exaggerative for me to defend, I never claimed he was such, only that he'd make a good mod.
I hereby nominate (not that it's gonna work) mr. Schroeder for permenant moderator and all-around fact-checker.
Especially calling bullshit on a lot of liberal noise. I'm generally liberal myself, but I prefer to be a factually CORRECT liberal rather than a reactionary one.
art and progress is broader than that. there are things that work well done by individuals, and things that don't.
progress is ESPECIALLY poor word-choice. the singly most complex creation of man (so i've heard) is the space shuttle--so complex no one person could expect to be a professional in it all.
there's a very comprehensive image 2 color-ascii sourceforge project that i just happened to use yesterday to make my blog's background, when i failed to find a cool old ANSi menu to turn into my theme (i was thinking like a leet revengebbs theme, but i never find menu themes anymore, only picture art).
check out img2ascii, with a live demo here (please don't punish their server, you can grab the code and run it locally or choose from other mirrors)
this is the image i ended up making, the html had too many color tags and ate memory, so i took a screenshot and turned up the compression w/ some contrast adjustments.
i'm sure purists would disdain, but i'm happy to nonprofessionally excercise a skill i've always envied ^^
no, silly, in the future, wars will be fought with a mmorpg mod for quake 1 teamfortress. except when countries are too poor to afford all the computers, in which case, they'll get their asses kicked the old fashioned way.
It wasn't all that offtopic, and it's a very understandible opinion. As you can tell by now though, you've accidentally pushed some buttons. Here in a techie arena, there is a techie terminology more detailed than in the general public, and you've paid a little karma to learn (maybe not agree with) that. others that have no patience to hear the explanation over and over flame back.
Even aside from the petty symantics though, I think you're a little short-sighted.. I'm sorry for the wrongs you've suffered, but there are sometimes more things that productive hackers have in common than just hacking. a sense of humor, for example. and not everybody starts out wise. 26yearoldme sympathizes with you, 16 yearoldme would tell you to go fuck yourself. I think it's unreasonable to expect you can grow grey-hat hackers without putting up with an immature phase.
ahahahaha --WOW-- i've already been defended by a lawyer somehow more libertarian about IP than ME!
it's really nice to meet you ^^ if it happens to catch your interest, i could really use some informed (nonprofessional of course) thoughts on a project i'm working on regarding some old blues tunes.
I have never seen such a lopsided reaction from slashdot.. i think there was one, maybe two lowmodded posts that were pro-noCVS, and they have +4 insightful replies slamming them..
i thought that article a week or so ago for an enter-an-image searchengine was too far-fetched to be created any time soon, but i bet a music one would be possible..
shit, what's that type of compression called where repeating patterns are identified, given numbers, and then just store the number and one copy of the pattern... anyway, since the compression works that way, it would be just one step more to index that info searchably..
how would the interface work though? it would definetly need options like "take this sound literally" for finding a specific sound, or "take this as sheetmusic" for humming into a microphone to try to find a sound...
When someone produces a speech, or writes a paper, few would argue that that someone shouldn't have some kind right of ownership on the work.
When someone coins a phrase, do they gain ownership of the phrase? of course not.
Noone is allowed to reproduce the text of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I have a dream" speech and claim it as their own. EVERYONE has the right to include the phrase "I have a dream" in direct reference to MLKjr, in indirect reference to anything relating to him, and in contexts completely irrelevant to him. Frankly, I'd say it is property of the culture, in the most basic sense: more than the author's original words & intentions are invested into the meaning of the phrase: also invested are the hearts and minds of the people who were however subtly changed by it, and the culture they built upon it. I won't claim to know how to legislate that last part...
Anyway, the current music copyright as property over every infintessimally small component of music can NEVER work. Music is made of notes, Books and speeches of words. Somewhere between the componant and the comprised is where the MEANING of the work is reached, and that is the scale at which to begin protecting.
open source music NOW!
(I can go on for hours about how culture is only getting MORE self-referential and just meta in general, so this is really restraining myself..)
No, I agree, my first post was a total pipe-dream, and the criticism was not just directed at Bush but all of 'em. I was exaggerating to allude to an ethos that I don't see us having.
It definetly wouldn't be as haute coture, but I'd rather see a ragtag heartfelt inagural ceremony than a spitnpolish blacktie theatrical event, just like i'd rather a maccaroni xmas card from someone who can't afford much than something glitzy from someone who can afford anything...i understand that's me being a typical youngperson, and accept that old ppl like their black suits, so they can go ahead and enjoy it..
idunno, wouldn't it be nice if we had a president that could have an inaguration where of their own desire, fireworks artists would want to donate a performance, the police would want to volunteer extra unpaid time, caterers would donate food, singers would donate performances, etcetcetc.
large corporate monetary donations, fundraiser dinners, et all seem so cold to me.. inagural day comes off more as a stockholder's holiday weekend to me.
You don't start with DRM. DRM is just like a speed bump that reminds you whether you're staying within the scope of rights that you have or you don't.
word. wait, what should i not start with again?
So you don't start with DRM. That's like saying, 'Do you believe in speed bumps?' You have to say, 'Should people drive at 80mph in parking lots?' If you think they should, then of course you don't like speed bumps.
i guess i'm drivin' on the grass motherfucka!
on a slightly more serious note, let me extend the speed-bump analogy: people driving in expensive cars slow down. people in beaters don't bother....but the ones in the expensive cars are the only ones who can reach 80mph before running out of parking lot...
writing is speech pictures are speech (this) code is tshirt is music is speech (decss) insert numerous other examples (my laziness)
good luck continuing to legislate speech as property based upon the medium, the inevitability is that they're all communication and increasingly interchangable. i'd start looking for another way to designate what can be proprietary and not NOW.
How many countries had you invaded by 13? There -IS- a bit of difference there!
give me a break, i'm being nice enough here. of course there's a difference there, that's why it's a comparison and not a mirror.
technical plans for centrifuge:: iraq anarchist's cookbook:: youngme
if you need it spelled out: as dangerous as the potential could be, it rarely gets that far, due to my/iraq's own ineptitude and need to sneak around about it.
Do you seriously think that a 3rd world country sitting on giant fossil fuel repositories run by a mad man were looking for a cleaner more environmentally friendly energy source?
As a broad generalization? No. Looking at the facts in your own links without prior conclusion? Yes.
about Urenco: (http://www.exportcontrols.org/urenco.html) "Uren co developed from a joint Dutch, German and British initiative set up in the 1970s following the signing of the Treaty of Almelo. Since that time, Urenco has been a leader in the field of uranium enrichment by the gas centrifuge. It provides low enriched uranium for nuclear power utilities worldwide."
My previous post's quote said, power plants tend to use roughly 5%-enriched uranium, and weapons require specially-manufactured 90%-enriched uranium. I've tried to research what I can about the TC-11 centrifuge, but I'm still not finding that explicit link that it's a critical component to weapons-uranium, which is vastly more difficult to manufacture, and not what I'd expect a company servicing power companies to provide. However, the word 'supercritical' is tied to the centrifuge often enough, and though I haven't found the explicit meaning of that, it does sound like that could mean weapons-grade. Then again, it's also called a 'super critical GAS centrifuge' meaning it uses supercritical gas, rather than meaning it makes supercritical uranium. I tried and failed to find a source to make that distinction. My suspicions remain that the centrifuge is capable of making 5%ish and not 90%ish, and the difference in difficulties of making each is incredible.
Honestly now, can you sit there with a straight face and tell me that if Saddam had weapons grade uranium he'd try and make electricity out of it?
I can make any conjecture you want me to. Let's stick to fact-finding before interpretation instead.
I've browsed too many sites to link, so instead let me pass on the best search results i got: here
Many of them seem comprehensive, but unfortunately most are dated information from 96-98ish. It's interesting though, Iraq apparantly had a much bigger centrifuge program already back when they were our allies in the 80s. Many of the sites make horrible predictions of what Iraq could have been producing had the first gulf war not happened. It's too dated and too much info overload for me to digest at the moment tho.
Slashdot Mirror
That wasn't a response to just the grandparent post in particular, I had browsed all the recent comments that he made and found several times he's made good critiques of the knee-jerk liberal reaction that you must admit is a decent percentage of slashdot comments. liberal FUD is FUD just the same to me, and I appreciate the help dispelling mistruths I'm likely to beleive.
>His point has some validity, but to elevate him to Dispenser of Wisdom, Destroyer of Bullshit, is just absurd.
Again, my opinion was not based on that one post, but a pattern in all prior posts i could see. The job title you've invented is a little too exaggerative for me to defend, I never claimed he was such, only that he'd make a good mod.
I hereby nominate (not that it's gonna work) mr. Schroeder for permenant moderator and all-around fact-checker.
Especially calling bullshit on a lot of liberal noise. I'm generally liberal myself, but I prefer to be a factually CORRECT liberal rather than a reactionary one.
we could force them to play Big Rigs for 8 hours at a time, that's punishment.
put a DDR machine in every cell with it's volume turned wayyyy up and no way to shut it off...
no playing pimpwars...
pfeh, tell that to a jam band.
art and progress is broader than that. there are things that work well done by individuals, and things that don't.
progress is ESPECIALLY poor word-choice. the singly most complex creation of man (so i've heard) is the space shuttle--so complex no one person could expect to be a professional in it all.
oh shit, you mean we're attacking Sweeden?
there's a very comprehensive image 2 color-ascii sourceforge project that i just happened to use yesterday to make my blog's background, when i failed to find a cool old ANSi menu to turn into my theme (i was thinking like a leet revengebbs theme, but i never find menu themes anymore, only picture art).
check out img2ascii, with a live demo here (please don't punish their server, you can grab the code and run it locally or choose from other mirrors)
this is the image i ended up making, the html had too many color tags and ate memory, so i took a screenshot and turned up the compression w/ some contrast adjustments.
i'm sure purists would disdain, but i'm happy to nonprofessionally excercise a skill i've always envied ^^
no, silly, in the future, wars will be fought with a mmorpg mod for quake 1 teamfortress. except when countries are too poor to afford all the computers, in which case, they'll get their asses kicked the old fashioned way.
It wasn't all that offtopic, and it's a very understandible opinion. As you can tell by now though, you've accidentally pushed some buttons. Here in a techie arena, there is a techie terminology more detailed than in the general public, and you've paid a little karma to learn (maybe not agree with) that. others that have no patience to hear the explanation over and over flame back.
Even aside from the petty symantics though, I think you're a little short-sighted.. I'm sorry for the wrongs you've suffered, but there are sometimes more things that productive hackers have in common than just hacking. a sense of humor, for example. and not everybody starts out wise. 26yearoldme sympathizes with you, 16 yearoldme would tell you to go fuck yourself. I think it's unreasonable to expect you can grow grey-hat hackers without putting up with an immature phase.
ahahahaha --WOW-- i've already been defended by a lawyer somehow more libertarian about IP than ME!
it's really nice to meet you ^^ if it happens to catch your interest, i could really use some informed (nonprofessional of course) thoughts on a project i'm working on regarding some old blues tunes.
I have never seen such a lopsided reaction from slashdot.. i think there was one, maybe two lowmodded posts that were pro-noCVS, and they have +4 insightful replies slamming them..
herebeit resolved, CVS is the shiznittybingbang.
BRILLIANT!!!
i thought that article a week or so ago for an enter-an-image searchengine was too far-fetched to be created any time soon, but i bet a music one would be possible..
shit, what's that type of compression called where repeating patterns are identified, given numbers, and then just store the number and one copy of the pattern... anyway, since the compression works that way, it would be just one step more to index that info searchably..
how would the interface work though? it would definetly need options like "take this sound literally" for finding a specific sound, or "take this as sheetmusic" for humming into a microphone to try to find a sound...
boy that would just be an assload of fun.
When someone produces a speech, or writes a paper, few would argue that that someone shouldn't have some kind right of ownership on the work.
When someone coins a phrase, do they gain ownership of the phrase? of course not.
Noone is allowed to reproduce the text of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I have a dream" speech and claim it as their own.
EVERYONE has the right to include the phrase "I have a dream" in direct reference to MLKjr, in indirect reference to anything relating to him, and in contexts completely irrelevant to him. Frankly, I'd say it is property of the culture, in the most basic sense: more than the author's original words & intentions are invested into the meaning of the phrase: also invested are the hearts and minds of the people who were however subtly changed by it, and the culture they built upon it. I won't claim to know how to legislate that last part...
Anyway, the current music copyright as property over every infintessimally small component of music can NEVER work. Music is made of notes, Books and speeches of words. Somewhere between the componant and the comprised is where the MEANING of the work is reached, and that is the scale at which to begin protecting.
open source music NOW!
(I can go on for hours about how culture is only getting MORE self-referential and just meta in general, so this is really restraining myself..)
No, I agree, my first post was a total pipe-dream, and the criticism was not just directed at Bush but all of 'em. I was exaggerating to allude to an ethos that I don't see us having.
It definetly wouldn't be as haute coture, but I'd rather see a ragtag heartfelt inagural ceremony than a spitnpolish blacktie theatrical event, just like i'd rather a maccaroni xmas card from someone who can't afford much than something glitzy from someone who can afford anything.
idunno, wouldn't it be nice if we had a president that could have an inaguration where of their own desire, fireworks artists would want to donate a performance, the police would want to volunteer extra unpaid time, caterers would donate food, singers would donate performances, etcetcetc.
large corporate monetary donations, fundraiser dinners, et all seem so cold to me.. inagural day comes off more as a stockholder's holiday weekend to me.
will it suffer from clapper syndrom, like when you have a stereo plugged into the clapper and the song includes clapping?
idunno what the control words would be, but i bet there's enough songs with the word "louder" in it to make it suck.
AOHell. That was more fun than a barrel of CGA porn.
best... splashscreenmusic.. ever.
(the nuttin but a g thang riff)
'slike dis an' like dat and this an' uh...
and i will call it... a greenhouse.
worse yet, the corporations own the rights often enough, right? rights & patents, it's officially the information age..
it's the kind i asked deadbeat college roomies to get me: Buy Some Damn Beer!
sweeeet. can i play as a sim that's too busy playing sims to study? (..who's playing a sim too busy playing sims to study... ad infinitum)
Well, ignore DRM for a second.
...but the ones in the expensive cars are the only ones who can reach 80mph before running out of parking lot...
wayyyy ahead of ya
You don't start with DRM. DRM is just like a speed bump that reminds you whether you're staying within the scope of rights that you have or you don't.
word. wait, what should i not start with again?
So you don't start with DRM. That's like saying, 'Do you believe in speed bumps?' You have to say, 'Should people drive at 80mph in parking lots?' If you think they should, then of course you don't like speed bumps.
i guess i'm drivin' on the grass motherfucka!
on a slightly more serious note, let me extend the speed-bump analogy: people driving in expensive cars slow down. people in beaters don't bother.
duhhhhh all of the above. don't try to make it one-size-sits-all.
when i want a politicized/family-oriented opinion of a game, i'll go to a massively-public site.
when i want a fighting-game enthusiast's opinion, i'll go to a fighting-game-fansite.
when i want a game designer's opinion of how good a game is, i'll go to a game design enthusiast's site.
when i want a lot of info quick i'll go to a site that aggregates from all of the above.
muwahahahaaa
writing is speech
pictures are speech (this)
code is tshirt is music is speech (decss)
insert numerous other examples (my laziness)
good luck continuing to legislate speech as property based upon the medium, the inevitability is that they're all communication and increasingly interchangable. i'd start looking for another way to designate what can be proprietary and not NOW.
"There is hardly any money interest in art, and music will be there when money is gone."
- Duke Ellington
give me a break, i'm being nice enough here. of course there's a difference there, that's why it's a comparison and not a mirror.
technical plans for centrifuge
anarchist's cookbook
if you need it spelled out: as dangerous as the potential could be, it rarely gets that far, due to my/iraq's own ineptitude and need to sneak around about it.
As a broad generalization? No. Looking at the facts in your own links without prior conclusion? Yes.
about Urenco: (http://www.exportcontrols.org/urenco.html)
"Ure
My previous post's quote said, power plants tend to use roughly 5%-enriched uranium, and weapons require specially-manufactured 90%-enriched uranium. I've tried to research what I can about the TC-11 centrifuge, but I'm still not finding that explicit link that it's a critical component to weapons-uranium, which is vastly more difficult to manufacture, and not what I'd expect a company servicing power companies to provide. However, the word 'supercritical' is tied to the centrifuge often enough, and though I haven't found the explicit meaning of that, it does sound like that could mean weapons-grade. Then again, it's also called a 'super critical GAS centrifuge' meaning it uses supercritical gas, rather than meaning it makes supercritical uranium. I tried and failed to find a source to make that distinction. My suspicions remain that the centrifuge is capable of making 5%ish and not 90%ish, and the difference in difficulties of making each is incredible.
I can make any conjecture you want me to. Let's stick to fact-finding before interpretation instead.
I've browsed too many sites to link, so instead let me pass on the best search results i got: here
Many of them seem comprehensive, but unfortunately most are dated information from 96-98ish. It's interesting though, Iraq apparantly had a much bigger centrifuge program already back when they were our allies in the 80s. Many of the sites make horrible predictions of what Iraq could have been producing had the first gulf war not happened. It's too dated and too much info overload for me to digest at the moment tho.