are not equivalents. GnuSTEP is Gnu's implementation of the OPENSTEP spec. OPENSTEP is only a spec which is a subset of the NeXTSTEP OS frameworks. NeXTSTEP is an OS sitting ontop of BSD4.x including application framework, programming environment and special sauce. MacOSX is a bastard child of NeXTSTEP stripped of interprocess communication, postscript, scsi and the special sauce.
Sun created OPENSTEP together with Steve Jobs in order to kill NeXTSTEP for Solaris to thrive. Sumarily, Sun repurposed every programmer dedicated to OPENSTEP development which effectively abandoned the spec... Ta Dah! =r
The question is whether you like your OS to be totally promiscuous. Microsoft has built an empire with a totally promiscuous OS strategy running on any hardware that comes along. Apple's business strategy relies upon reving their OS faster than Microsoft's OS. The end game for Apple is to produce a superior OS in feature, reliability and productivity at the end of every rev cycle.
Promiscuity adds the QC burden of playing with every Tom, Dick and Harry piece of hardware. Apple would rather release a *discrete* promiscuous OS version of MacOS X for a given market segment than open their doors to the world of hardware hell.
For the Open Source inclined, promiscuity provides freedom of choice. For Apple promiscuity provides new marketshare at no expense to its existing base. Discrete promiscuity delivers a hardware spec for targeted customers. Much better business case from Apple's point of view.
Jobs ran X86 before and it was not a problem running the OS. It took the hardware mfgrs a cycle or two to come up to speed on the requirements for the interface. In the end, PC mfgrs were superior to Apple hardware in quality and price.
In the interim years, Apple have discontinued SCSI and disable all the interprocess communication in the OS that provided for productivity gains. The moral is that there will be a price to be paid for the luxury of having promisuious hardware.
Great comedy for the courtroom! Really, your honor, my Renault ran her over. I had nothing to do with it. I tried everthing but nothing seemed to work except my cell phone. So I called 911 to report the hit and run.
O-Step creates concentric time-rings of government protection for established corporate products that warrant no innovation, creativity, invention or discovery rights under current Patent Law.
I can't believe this stuff makes it onto the/. discussion board. Pretty soon/. too will have lost its Open meaning... and the corporations will have succeeded in co-opting the Open movement.
Backdoors are coded for a reason. Obviously, the job didn't call for it. Call the FBI. You are not equipped to discern whether it was inconsequential. That backdoor served a purpose.
Nextime, structure your coding away from needing "trust" and "detrimental reliance".
Backstory: I had an entire project move off-shore through a backdoor via a coder. The project reappeared *whole* complete with the project application and name.com'd running as a pay-for-service business.
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There is no US law mandating use of a specific "money". Anyone can use a money they invent. But will anyone else use it?
Inside the money currency banking fee-based transaction system all solutions come out looking like cash. Until we get beyond money as a "store of value" and "store of currency" mentality the world is stuck with cash.
Banking laws straight out of 1929 tightly regulate how Banks handle money. No replacement is on the horizon and all claims to the contrary are pure Bullshit. Any Future Bank transaction technology will run against existing "Check" payments processing. ChargeCard Law (ie. AmEx, VISA) are more flexible but add costly guarantor obligations. Checking account law is viewed as the "platform of choice". And nothing (globalisation,PaxAmericana or 911) can change that unless those 1929 laws are rewritten.
We bagged the whole business (lack thereof) Only gov't is in the encryption business. Irregardless, your contribution to progress, gov't will see to it that only the weak survive.
No one is remembering that Steve Jobs learned what the x86 market is capable. Sure x86 boxes were crap when Jobs jettisioned NeXT hardware. But it only took 18 mos. for x86 graphics developers to catch-up with NeXT graphics superiority.
x86 for MacOS X blurs the distinction between Mac's and PC's. It would be a dilution of brand equity.
No_ no MacOS x86. Yes there could be a subset of MacOS running on x86. It would be appliance centric and a functional subset of MacOS X.
The Titanium case will actually cut down on many costs. [snip] By going to a hard, titanium "exoskeleton", you can eliminate one of the toolings by eliminating the inner skeleton.
That Titatium case is but paint over carbon-fibre exo-skeleton. The facts is Titatium is too dirty in raw metal form. It discolors and picks up oils in its finish. Painting Titanium controls this problem.
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/. is such narrow bandwidth for meaningful discussion. Go ahead rate this down for bashing your moderated and filtered system.
How do you expect to build a LinuxGUI like Aqua if you don't understand the importance of the engine underneath?
OK Maverick, real pioneers have already trodden the territory you're discovering for the very first time. SteveJobs used open source BSD years ago to build his NeXTOS. Darwin represents 10 years experience and a version3.0 Mach messaging system on top, this is the most exciting aspect of Darwin. Aqua GUI is only gingerbread. It like calling chrome valve covers on a hemi engine the coolest part of a racecar.
If your target is to build a competititive GUI.app learn about building an engine to power the GUI first. The fact that it is now open source is opportunity to benchmark Linux kernel against Mach kernel. It is a level GUI playing field. Learn why a messaging kernel is Aqua smooth for window event management.
Subscription based revenue models are NOT going to succeed on the backs of individual users. Considering the bloated state of software, requiring SOTA hardware or dual CPU machines to render *reasonable* desktop performance over broadband networks, there is no money left for content.
Yahoo's nice and the question is worth asking what people will pay and for what. I do not believe that Yahoo delivers a value-added component to the content and services it hosts. I have 6 ways to Sunday to obtain info Yahoo posts.
Yahoo is convenient, reliable and trustworthy source but it is not unique, compelling and irreplacable.
Let's see, rent, car, toys, boat, utils, communications, and on top of that Yahoo? rent? I don't think so.
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I built voting protocols and voting engine for online elections in 1996. Subsequently, CA Gov. Pete Wilson enacted legislation to outlaw online elections. Unique to our protocol is privacy protections to eliminate the possibility of matching for whom a person voted back to the voter. It is robust enough to publicize the protocol, sources and remain secure. It does so by not relying for security upon strong encryption. The voting engine instead uses a sequence of communication channels, the timing of which precludes outside attack.
The ensuing 5 years have not changed the CA law to allow digital elections. There has not been a digital election anywhere in the US for one reason. Politicians know how to work the system now in-place. There is no incentive for them to open the electoral process up to a new system which could change the political balance of power.
Voter.com and other sites are too closely allied to the political establishment to support digital democacry. I've talked to any and every organization to whom digital voting could prove uselful. All are distrustful of the technology and its implications for the business of politics as its currently practiced.
It is too revolutionary. It disintermediates the layer of politicians, brokers, lobbyists and organizations in our capitals. It connects citizens directly to the political process. That is too much power in the hands of people.
A Sacramento legislator explained it this way. It only takes a million votes to win the governorship of the worlds 6th largest economy. Any system which encourages more voter participation, aggregation or organization, politicians view as a threat to the current system. Election2000 has lowered that bar a thousand fold (ie. 1000.vs. 1000000).
Lastly, there does not exist a business plan to compete for funding against the likes of eBusiness, B2B and the political system.
I have the engine built, prototype running and voting protocols proven. What digital voting needs is a grassroots support, groundswell movement to force the will of the people to open the election process to digital voting.
I could hold an election tommorrow over the Internet. The technology, software and protocols exist. It is the will of the people and funding to scale it up to serve the election process that is missing.
Leatherman replaced pocketknives when Cyberculture replaced Industrialism. SOG strikes gold with Leatherman afficianados...
Here:
http://www.uws.com/blades4less_SOG_TiNiPPP.html
SOG are the guys who the USgov't commissioned a new Green Beret fighting knife for Vietnam. Every Green Beret carried a SOG boyou knife.
From that heritage SOG designed their Leatherman with gears, TiNi (titanium nitrite) corrosion resistance and accessory knives second to none. In the hand, the SOG balances like a fine piece.
This is a go anywhere, anytime, do anything pocket plier that lives up to its heritage. Anyone would be proud to score this Xmas gift.
Having personally owned this product. I can attest to its pocketability. Unlike Leatherman, SOG will stay in your pocket (ie. not fall out) and doesn't telegraph through your pant as some embarrassing part of one's excited anatomy. It comes with a leather sheath for that true Geek on your list.
Hint: order early
Tim Berners Lee invented the _URL_ to enable people to link into works rather than copy verbatim. That culture of a copy at a click of a button has been short circuited by copying whole rather than linking in prior works. So much for good intentions.
Web technology makes it easy to copy works in the digital domain, at the expense of original art, making first authorship irrelevent much less reimbursed.
Boilerplate webpage designs are visual noise through which humans must squelch through to the real signal. Some designs are better suited for some signals than others. News sites, Digests, Banking, etc... share common elements that follow a stylistic norm.
When such website designs copy and share-in-common more than one of either content, context or infrastructure you have an actionable case based upon theft of property.
I think this is the distinction which clarifies the paradox of when does a copy become a theft.
...or not! Whatever the fine points, the 70K figure underestimates the discreet number of applications which use Windows. I wouldn't think that even business applications could be covered under a 70k umbrella.
Allows you to select your programs on the internet and your DVR gets the instructions from the Internet server. The instructions are broadcast in the broadcast signal where the DVR can sort them out for download. They have 8 or 9 countries using this system.
Dumb Americans they are waiting of TVGuide monopoly to cram some remote schedule into a handheld or somesuch. It'll never fly but TVGuide has the US market all to itself.
Another dumb ass implementation mistake along the lines of mobile phones in the US.
The big difference between American fascination with technology and European adoption of technology is language.
USA has one language in all 50 states. Europe many different languages. Europeans knew early-on that technology would have to the bridge between people, borders, and cultures.
Success in Europe hinged on the adoption of not technology but services to make technology useful. Contrast that with the US duopoly system of granting twin market monopoly. There's no incentivation for bridging areas and few services beyond billing and phone sales.
In So. Cal. it is so bad that a phone purchased in San Diego will not work in LA. You are better finding a phone in LA that works in the area. And if you go to NYC, forget about taking any services that come with your phone.
APL, the language, was the fastest introduction to computer science I ever experienced. IBM had a workbook of examples which challenged the student to write APL solutions to common problems. Without requiring any of the syntax sugar, rules or semantics, APL is a self teaching program.
Scheme, C, Java offer none of the advantages to getting your hands dirty that APL afforded right away.
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are not equivalents. GnuSTEP is Gnu's implementation of the OPENSTEP spec. OPENSTEP is only a spec which is a subset of the NeXTSTEP OS frameworks. NeXTSTEP is an OS sitting ontop of BSD4.x including application framework, programming environment and special sauce. MacOSX is a bastard child of NeXTSTEP stripped of interprocess communication, postscript, scsi and the special sauce.
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Sun created OPENSTEP together with Steve Jobs in order to kill NeXTSTEP for Solaris to thrive. Sumarily, Sun repurposed every programmer dedicated to OPENSTEP development which effectively abandoned the spec... Ta Dah!
=r
The question is whether you like your OS to be totally promiscuous. Microsoft has built an empire with a totally promiscuous OS strategy running on any hardware that comes along. Apple's business strategy relies upon reving their OS faster than Microsoft's OS. The end game for Apple is to produce a superior OS in feature, reliability and productivity at the end of every rev cycle.
Promiscuity adds the QC burden of playing with every Tom, Dick and Harry piece of hardware. Apple would rather release a *discrete* promiscuous OS version of MacOS X for a given market segment than open their doors to the world of hardware hell.
For the Open Source inclined, promiscuity provides freedom of choice. For Apple promiscuity provides new marketshare at no expense to its existing base. Discrete promiscuity delivers a hardware spec for targeted customers. Much better business case from Apple's point of view.
Jobs ran X86 before and it was not a problem running the OS. It took the hardware mfgrs a cycle or two to come up to speed on the requirements for the interface. In the end, PC mfgrs were superior to Apple hardware in quality and price.
In the interim years, Apple have discontinued SCSI and disable all the interprocess communication in the OS that provided for productivity gains. The moral is that there will be a price to be paid for the luxury of having promisuious hardware.
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Rex Riley
Alan Cox got O-O programming and Objective-C, reusability and abstraction layers right.
Now I have to listen to him bitch about academic concepts because he has an MBA. Pluueese...
There wasn't an original idea in the whole article in the link to this thread.
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Great comedy for the courtroom! Really, your honor, my Renault ran her over. I had nothing to do with it. I tried everthing but nothing seemed to work except my cell phone. So I called 911 to report the hit and run.
-r
O-Step creates concentric time-rings of government protection for established corporate products that warrant no innovation, creativity, invention or discovery rights under current Patent Law.
/. discussion board. Pretty soon /. too will have lost its Open meaning... and the corporations will have succeeded in co-opting the Open movement.
I can't believe this stuff makes it onto the
>Lose the moderation system. It doesn't work, and never has
/. regulates dynamic content - what,who and, now, *when* people get it.
/. run the show behind the curtain.
/. InteractiveNews program coming on cable, Internet and Wireless phone.
It works! Exactly the way its intended.
It functions as a psuedo-puppet democracy for nerds where
They need only keep it entertaining, relevent and now pseudo-interactive to keep eyeballs, posters and posers.
Good Luck... I can't believe they haven't announced their upcoming
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Backdoors are coded for a reason. Obviously, the job didn't call for it. Call the FBI. You are not equipped to discern whether it was inconsequential. That backdoor served a purpose.
.com'd running as a pay-for-service business.
Nextime, structure your coding away from needing "trust" and "detrimental reliance".
Backstory: I had an entire project move off-shore through a backdoor via a coder. The project reappeared *whole* complete with the project application and name
There is no US law mandating use of a specific "money". Anyone can use a money they invent. But will anyone else use it?
Inside the money currency banking fee-based transaction system all solutions come out looking like cash. Until we get beyond money as a
"store of value" and "store of currency" mentality the world is stuck with cash.
Banking laws straight out of 1929 tightly regulate how Banks handle money. No replacement is on the horizon and all claims to the contrary are pure Bullshit. Any Future Bank transaction technology will run against existing "Check" payments processing. ChargeCard Law (ie. AmEx, VISA) are more flexible but add costly guarantor obligations. Checking account law is viewed as the "platform of choice". And nothing (globalisation,PaxAmericana or 911) can change that unless those 1929 laws are rewritten.
We bagged the whole business (lack thereof) Only gov't is in the encryption business. Irregardless, your contribution to progress, gov't will see to it that only the weak survive.
No one is remembering that Steve Jobs learned what the x86 market is capable. Sure x86 boxes were crap when Jobs jettisioned NeXT hardware. But it only took 18 mos. for x86 graphics developers to catch-up with NeXT graphics superiority.
x86 for MacOS X blurs the distinction between Mac's and PC's. It would be a dilution of brand equity.
No_ no MacOS x86. Yes there could be a subset of MacOS running on x86. It would be appliance centric and a functional subset of MacOS X.
-r
The Titanium case will actually cut down on many costs. [snip] By going to a hard, titanium "exoskeleton", you can eliminate one of the toolings by eliminating the inner skeleton.
That Titatium case is but paint over carbon-fibre exo-skeleton. The facts is Titatium is too dirty in raw metal form. It discolors and picks up oils in its finish. Painting Titanium controls this problem.
/. is such narrow bandwidth for meaningful discussion. Go ahead rate this down for bashing your moderated and filtered system.
How do you expect to build a LinuxGUI like Aqua if you don't understand the importance of the engine underneath?
OK Maverick, real pioneers have already trodden the territory you're discovering for the very first time. SteveJobs used open source BSD years ago to build his NeXTOS. Darwin represents 10 years experience and a version3.0 Mach messaging system on top, this is the most exciting aspect of Darwin. Aqua GUI is only gingerbread. It like calling chrome valve covers on a hemi engine the coolest part of a racecar.
If your target is to build a competititive GUI.app learn about building an engine to power the GUI first. The fact that it is now open source is opportunity to benchmark Linux kernel against Mach kernel. It is a level GUI playing field. Learn why a messaging kernel is Aqua smooth for window event management.
-r
Subscription based revenue models are NOT going to succeed on the backs of individual users. Considering the bloated state of software, requiring SOTA hardware or dual CPU machines to render *reasonable* desktop performance over broadband networks, there is no money left for content.
Yahoo's nice and the question is worth asking what people will pay and for what. I do not believe that Yahoo delivers a value-added component to the content and services it hosts. I have 6 ways to Sunday to obtain info Yahoo posts.
Yahoo is convenient, reliable and trustworthy source but it is not unique, compelling and irreplacable.
Let's see, rent, car, toys, boat, utils, communications, and on top of that Yahoo? rent? I don't think so.
-r
I built voting protocols and voting engine for online elections in 1996. Subsequently, CA Gov. Pete Wilson enacted legislation to outlaw online elections. Unique to our protocol is privacy protections to eliminate the possibility of matching for whom a person voted back to the voter. It is robust enough to publicize the protocol, sources and remain secure. It does so by not relying for security upon strong encryption. The voting engine instead uses a sequence of communication channels, the timing of which precludes outside attack.
.vs. 1000000).
The ensuing 5 years have not changed the CA law to allow digital elections. There has not been a digital election anywhere in the US for one reason. Politicians know how to work the system now in-place. There is no incentive for them to open the electoral process up to a new system which could change the political balance of power.
Voter.com and other sites are too closely allied to the political establishment to support digital democacry. I've talked to any and every organization to whom digital voting could prove uselful. All are distrustful of the technology and its implications for the business of politics as its currently practiced.
It is too revolutionary. It disintermediates the layer of politicians, brokers, lobbyists and organizations in our capitals. It connects citizens directly to the political process. That is too much power in the hands of people.
A Sacramento legislator explained it this way. It only takes a million votes to win the governorship of the worlds 6th largest economy. Any system which encourages more voter participation, aggregation or organization, politicians view as a threat to the current system. Election2000 has lowered that bar a thousand fold (ie. 1000
Lastly, there does not exist a business plan to compete for funding against the likes of eBusiness, B2B and the political system.
I have the engine built, prototype running and voting protocols proven. What digital voting needs is a grassroots support, groundswell movement to force the will of the people to open the election process to digital voting.
I could hold an election tommorrow over the Internet. The technology, software and protocols exist. It is the will of the people and funding to scale it up to serve the election process that is missing.
rr6013@netscape.net
Leatherman replaced pocketknives when Cyberculture replaced Industrialism. SOG strikes gold with Leatherman afficianados... Here: http://www.uws.com/blades4less_SOG_TiNiPPP.html SOG are the guys who the USgov't commissioned a new Green Beret fighting knife for Vietnam. Every Green Beret carried a SOG boyou knife. From that heritage SOG designed their Leatherman with gears, TiNi (titanium nitrite) corrosion resistance and accessory knives second to none. In the hand, the SOG balances like a fine piece. This is a go anywhere, anytime, do anything pocket plier that lives up to its heritage. Anyone would be proud to score this Xmas gift. Having personally owned this product. I can attest to its pocketability. Unlike Leatherman, SOG will stay in your pocket (ie. not fall out) and doesn't telegraph through your pant as some embarrassing part of one's excited anatomy. It comes with a leather sheath for that true Geek on your list. Hint: order early
see: www.tvtv.de
There exists a DigitalVideoRecorder machine with all Mr. Blount's goals (except firewire) to go along with this website.
The problem is that not many geeks want to put out the $12K USD - DM for the box.
> Well, there you have it, the usual elitest ...
> whining
I resemble that remark (see sig)? And second the carp wrt: charging $30 for beta software media.
Sheesh...
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Tim Berners Lee invented the _URL_ to enable people to link into works rather than copy verbatim. That culture of a copy at a click of a button has been short circuited by copying whole rather than linking in prior works. So much for good intentions.
Web technology makes it easy to copy works in the digital domain, at the expense of original art, making first authorship irrelevent much less reimbursed.
Boilerplate webpage designs are visual noise through which humans must squelch through to the real signal. Some designs are better suited for some signals than others. News sites, Digests, Banking, etc... share common elements that follow a stylistic norm.
When such website designs copy and share-in-common more than one of either content, context or infrastructure you have an actionable case based upon theft of property.
I think this is the distinction which clarifies the paradox of when does a copy become a theft.
...or not! Whatever the fine points, the 70K figure underestimates the discreet number of applications which use Windows. I wouldn't think that even business applications could be covered under a 70k umbrella.
-r
In Germany:
www.tvtv.de
Allows you to select your programs on the internet and your DVR gets the instructions from the Internet server. The instructions are broadcast in the broadcast signal where the DVR can sort them out for download. They have 8 or 9 countries using this system.
Dumb Americans they are waiting of TVGuide monopoly to cram some remote schedule into a handheld or somesuch. It'll never fly but TVGuide has the US market all to itself.
Another dumb ass implementation mistake along the lines of mobile phones in the US.
The big difference between American fascination with technology and European adoption of technology is language.
USA has one language in all 50 states. Europe many different languages. Europeans knew early-on that technology would have to the bridge between people, borders, and cultures.
Success in Europe hinged on the adoption of not technology but services to make technology useful. Contrast that with the US duopoly system of granting twin market monopoly. There's no incentivation for bridging areas and few services beyond billing and phone sales.
In So. Cal. it is so bad that a phone purchased in San Diego will not work in LA. You are better finding a phone in LA that works in the area. And if you go to NYC, forget about taking any services that come with your phone.
APL, the language, was the fastest introduction to computer science I ever experienced. IBM had a workbook of examples which challenged the student to write APL solutions to common problems. Without requiring any of the syntax sugar, rules or semantics, APL is a self teaching program.
Scheme, C, Java offer none of the advantages to getting your hands dirty that APL afforded right away.