All software is buggy, yes, but the quality of those bugs vary wildly. The original Gears of War had a shitload of minor bugs which didn't really hinder gameplay, for example, but i can recall several games that were so buggy as to be unplayable. Frontier: Elite 2, 2006 Sonic, the infamous Big Rigs Racing, Superman 64...
I understand they're very popular on the embedded market due to their low cost, but i can't honestly tell why. Any half decent ARM platform will run circles around it.
AMD dying off would effectively make Intel the sole producer of high-performance x86/64 CPUs in the market. Sure, you have VIA as well, but good luck trying to crunch numbers on an C7 core.
If not, sorry Microsoft, you don't get to whine if someone uploads 75 Tb to your unlimited free storage service. In fact, in some countries this would qualify as false advertising and deemed illegal.
Of the case scenario you have given, it just looks like dick waving. And non of that requires GPU. You're talking about a headless Server, and you want a GPU? Hell, you could do all that on Arduino if you wanted (and earn more dick waving AP)
The fuck i am. My HTPC is also my main home server, handling anything from remote SSH access to torrenting to backups - is that really such an impossible scenario to you?
And if you're running Gaming rig, you're going to want high end current CPU, GPU lots of ram, lots of fans and ventilation, which isn't the same rig as a quiet HTPC.
Gosh. Wish i knew. Guess Playstations and XBoxes are impossible then.
Suffice it to say, you're being unreasonable in your expectations.
Still waiting on an explanation of how. My unreasonable explanations have plugged to my TV and running non stop for several years now.
They all integrate neatly on a tiny box under my TV rack. You mean to tell me i need to plug an android stick to do the job this hardware is more than capable of?
Except what qualifies as "old" on the GPU world is nowhere as old as you think.
I have a small media center built around a Zotac Mini-ITX mobo using nVidia ION hardware, which was released late on 2009. Last years they dropped support on their binary blob driver and the chipset support will effectively end by 2016. The hardware performs fantastic, is dead quiet (no fans) and can handle any kind of video i throw at it, but i'm now forced to stick with an aging video driver which might stop working altogether soon.
I went for a Moto G 2nd gen 8 months ago for this very reason. I usually carry a lot of music and misc files with me, and 16Gb just doesn't cut it. That, and the fact that it has a radio tuner - it cant beleive listening to radio is impossible on most high end phones.
It is a very neat device as well, a Moto X-lite. Best bang for the buck in the market, hands down.
Weird. I've put together several boxes using the FX-8320E and 8350 and had zero stability issues.
Pricing is a concern though. The 8320 line used to be an excellent option in the bang for the buck department, but these new Intel offerings really close the gap.
That was my choice as well. The FX-8320E is a great CPU at a great price - Intel offerings still kill it in performance-per-core, but it is awesome for heavily multithreaded applications. You can build a system with a MSI board and 16GB RAM for under $350.
Don't need to. What the OP asked is "what happens when you short the positive and negative terminals on an USB port?". The answer is it shuts down, and the reason is that the overcurrent protection kicks in.
All the mumbo jumbo about voltage was introduced by you, out of the blue. I honestly have no idea why.
You wont. A e-cig coil is nothing but a loop of heating wire with low resistance (between 1 and 4 ohms) and negligible inductance - it would effectively short the USB power output for that port, triggering the overcurrent protection and shutting it down in the process.
No, you need to pay attention. Maybe take a few EE classes or something. VOLTAGE is what kills electronics. Hence VOLTAGE is what is being implied. YOU pay attention.
I took EE classes when i got my engineering degree. Voltage kills electronics alright, but it is not "what kills electronics" alone - see overcurrent, thermal damage, electromigration, overstress and semiconductor degradation for a couple other examples. And finally, no, voltage is NOT what the parent was implying when he proposed shorting the power (positive) terminal into ground.
I don't feel like arguing over semantics any longer. II'd suggest you read a bit on the subject though (it is quite interesting) and tone down the moral superiority on your replies in the meantime.
I understand perfectly what ESD is. I'm just not stupid enough to suggest that electronics can only be killed by overvoltage, which is what you proposed. In caps.
Seriously, you're arguing over things you evidently do not understand.
It apparently does not mean, "shut off if a connected device unexpectedly has its own independent power source and applies it to the data pins". Normally a device plugged into a USB port drains power from that port and does not independently supply it.
You're right. But that is not overcurrent nor the case the parent was proposing.
Also, if voltage is what kills electronics i invite you to randomly start shorting connectors on your motherboard with a piece of wire. Delta V = zero. You'll have a lot of fun, i promise.
Maybe. Keep in mind that nowadays overcurrent protection is normally implemented on the USB controller itself so it is not a premium feature by any stretch.
In any case it would certainly not hurt a Thinkpad.
All software is buggy, yes, but the quality of those bugs vary wildly. The original Gears of War had a shitload of minor bugs which didn't really hinder gameplay, for example, but i can recall several games that were so buggy as to be unplayable. Frontier: Elite 2, 2006 Sonic, the infamous Big Rigs Racing, Superman 64...
The point being, most embedded applications don't need x86.
I understand they're very popular on the embedded market due to their low cost, but i can't honestly tell why. Any half decent ARM platform will run circles around it.
AMD dying off would effectively make Intel the sole producer of high-performance x86/64 CPUs in the market. Sure, you have VIA as well, but good luck trying to crunch numbers on an C7 core.
Why not? Google has some of the most reliable datacenters available worldwide.
Maybe its just me, but i really like the clean, no frills UI shown on Vivaldi screenshots...
If not, sorry Microsoft, you don't get to whine if someone uploads 75 Tb to your unlimited free storage service. In fact, in some countries this would qualify as false advertising and deemed illegal.
Of the case scenario you have given, it just looks like dick waving. And non of that requires GPU. You're talking about a headless Server, and you want a GPU? Hell, you could do all that on Arduino if you wanted (and earn more dick waving AP)
The fuck i am. My HTPC is also my main home server, handling anything from remote SSH access to torrenting to backups - is that really such an impossible scenario to you?
And if you're running Gaming rig, you're going to want high end current CPU, GPU lots of ram, lots of fans and ventilation, which isn't the same rig as a quiet HTPC.
Gosh. Wish i knew. Guess Playstations and XBoxes are impossible then.
Suffice it to say, you're being unreasonable in your expectations.
Still waiting on an explanation of how. My unreasonable explanations have plugged to my TV and running non stop for several years now.
They all integrate neatly on a tiny box under my TV rack. You mean to tell me i need to plug an android stick to do the job this hardware is more than capable of?
It cannot handle a webserver, SSH, torrents, print server and NFS file server as the ION board does without breaking a sweat though.
Except what qualifies as "old" on the GPU world is nowhere as old as you think.
I have a small media center built around a Zotac Mini-ITX mobo using nVidia ION hardware, which was released late on 2009. Last years they dropped support on their binary blob driver and the chipset support will effectively end by 2016. The hardware performs fantastic, is dead quiet (no fans) and can handle any kind of video i throw at it, but i'm now forced to stick with an aging video driver which might stop working altogether soon.
Is that thing still around?
I went for a Moto G 2nd gen 8 months ago for this very reason. I usually carry a lot of music and misc files with me, and 16Gb just doesn't cut it. That, and the fact that it has a radio tuner - it cant beleive listening to radio is impossible on most high end phones.
It is a very neat device as well, a Moto X-lite. Best bang for the buck in the market, hands down.
Weird. I've put together several boxes using the FX-8320E and 8350 and had zero stability issues.
Pricing is a concern though. The 8320 line used to be an excellent option in the bang for the buck department, but these new Intel offerings really close the gap.
That was my choice as well. The FX-8320E is a great CPU at a great price - Intel offerings still kill it in performance-per-core, but it is awesome for heavily multithreaded applications. You can build a system with a MSI board and 16GB RAM for under $350.
Dead USB port, at most. And most (if not all) USB ports nowadays have self-resetting overcurrent protection so there would be no permanent damage.
Don't need to. What the OP asked is "what happens when you short the positive and negative terminals on an USB port?". The answer is it shuts down, and the reason is that the overcurrent protection kicks in.
All the mumbo jumbo about voltage was introduced by you, out of the blue. I honestly have no idea why.
You wont. A e-cig coil is nothing but a loop of heating wire with low resistance (between 1 and 4 ohms) and negligible inductance - it would effectively short the USB power output for that port, triggering the overcurrent protection and shutting it down in the process.
Sure:
No, you need to pay attention. Maybe take a few EE classes or something. VOLTAGE is what kills electronics. Hence VOLTAGE is what is being implied. YOU pay attention.
I took EE classes when i got my engineering degree. Voltage kills electronics alright, but it is not "what kills electronics" alone - see overcurrent, thermal damage, electromigration, overstress and semiconductor degradation for a couple other examples. And finally, no, voltage is NOT what the parent was implying when he proposed shorting the power (positive) terminal into ground.
I don't feel like arguing over semantics any longer. II'd suggest you read a bit on the subject though (it is quite interesting) and tone down the moral superiority on your replies in the meantime.
I understand perfectly what ESD is. I'm just not stupid enough to suggest that electronics can only be killed by overvoltage, which is what you proposed. In caps.
Seriously, you're arguing over things you evidently do not understand.
It apparently does not mean, "shut off if a connected device unexpectedly has its own independent power source and applies it to the data pins". Normally a device plugged into a USB port drains power from that port and does not independently supply it.
You're right. But that is not overcurrent nor the case the parent was proposing.
For Pete's sake. Do you understand what happens when you short the +V rail into ground?
Some reference material for you.
Also, if voltage is what kills electronics i invite you to randomly start shorting connectors on your motherboard with a piece of wire. Delta V = zero. You'll have a lot of fun, i promise.
Yes, by overvoltage. Not overcurrent, which is what the parent proposed.
Pay attention.
Maybe. Keep in mind that nowadays overcurrent protection is normally implemented on the USB controller itself so it is not a premium feature by any stretch.
In any case it would certainly not hurt a Thinkpad.
Not very. USB has overcurrent protection on ports by design, so they will simply shut down.