I am sure that some of their salary quotes are correct but some of them are obviously way off.
Of course you're right, that's why I listed median salaries and not the high/low salaries given at the extreme percentiles in their charts. I listed that site only as one source of support rather than just pulling numbers out of thin air or providing no basis altogether (hey, this is/. and no one would just make up numbers).
The "other" nursing specialties do require more training and that's part of their career path (like everyone else). Primary Care Nurse Practioners make on national average
$69K. I dated a NP for 7 years (she was a "floor RN" for four of those years), she now makes $85K and a friend of hers is a NP for a hospital specialty department and makes $100K. The friend has no call and the former gf gets paid extra for each weekend she works ($1500 for Fri to Sun--double that if it's a holiday). The median salary for a CRNA is $118K.
Unlike many 9-5 jobs (or 7-3), many jobs in the medical profession are not 40-hour weeks. Many are much more (especially if you count call nights/weekends). When I was a resident, an 80-hour week was considered short (this was of course before resident hour limitations initiated in New York).
When you have a team that enjoys their work, they put in 30/27 without even realizing it. Of course, some of that may be discussing design issues at the local pub... but some work gets done (and even some remembered).
Interesting... nurses have only in the last 10 years felt so neglected. This at a time when their salary/hourly wage is at an all time high. Most nurses are earning upwards of $36-53K (national average of LPN-RN with many in the $60's especially RN's with a couple year's experience or specialized). Many nurses can sit for their boards straight after only 2 years of training, not bad pay for 2 years. Their career path is not limited to being LPN/RN's. If they're not satisfied with providing direct patient care, they can go further into becoming midwives (with pay in the $45-70K range), Nurse Practioners (pay in the $70-100K range) or obtaining their PhD's in nursing and going the teaching route (pay's not great, but more respect from peers). So, in summary, they don't have excessive training requirements; however, they enjoy good pay by most people's definition, job security, no limitation to geography, broad career paths (up and lateral).
If there's disrespect among mid and upper-level providers (MD's and other staff) toward nurses perhaps it's because of a lack of understanding of each other's tasks / responsibilities / liabilities / time demands. While it's true that nurses have a very tough job for 8-12 hours/day, other providers also have difficult jobs.
As to nurses "fleeing" the profession, I'm surprised as there are numerous articles describing the flock of women and men TO the nursing profession and the 2-year wait to be accepted into many nursing schools.
Excuse me, but you obviously misunderstand the nature of FF pop-up blocking. What more effective way to perform its function than to crash the application/computer--no more pop-up. I guess IE in XP is just behind the times, it simply keeps the pop ups from displaying... bad MS, bad MS.
But we're already compelled to give DNA, urine and tissue sample evidence...
According to the definitive source, CSI, you can be "compelled", but not forced (though I suppose the semantics of the word could be open to interpretation--Webster says, "to drive or urge forcefully or irresistibly"). Often it's in the interest of the innocent to exclude themselves as a suspect by quickly volunteering specimens. Sort of flies in the face of "innocent until proven guilty", but we're talking about the real world and being expeditious. Oh, IANAL.
This is from an October 2004 newsletter by Bruce Bartlet Who Pays The Taxes reflecting US taxes paid in 2002.
"The IRS data divide taxpayers into percentiles according to their adjusted gross incomes. Following is the share of aggregate income taxes paid by each group:
Income Group ---- Tax Share Top 1 percent ---- 33.7 percent Top 5 percent ---- 53.8 percent Top 10 percent ---- 65.7 percent Top 25 percent ---- 83.9 percent Top 50 percent ---- 96.5 percent"
Presumably you could argue with the IRS data but it appears that the upper 25% already pay nearly the 85% you mention, and the upper 50% pay nearly all of it.
The item brought to mind a question and I'll admit to having not read all 400+ replies to see if it has been mentioned and addressed. Does the concept of IP apply to novelists beyond the current definition of plagiarism? I mean, how many times can a couple walk along a moonlit beach (etc, etc, etc). Seems like someone should hold the "copyright" to that idea and be able to sue any other author that incorporates that idea into their story. Pretty soon, just as in IT, all the known great ideas will be gobbled up by a handful of authors and no original stories can/will be written.
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1PB^503316 which is one hell of a lot of storage.
Give or take and not eliminating redundant songs (255,255 vs 255,255). I eliminated 0-bytes because I don't exactly know what MP3 data fields can contain. All and all, seems a bit more than will fit on most people's/agencies disk farms. I read somewhere that Wal Mart has about 450 terabytes of consumer data, which pales in comparison. I'm curious as how one would back up this amount of data... j/k
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Okay, remind me now just how much storage is required by 255^(3*2^20) bytes of data for all those 3MB song permutations (oh wait, thankfully some of those are redundant...).
"Among other technical challenges, Coyle said, engineers must figure out ways to fire the laser for the longer time needed to zap a missile without damaging the optics through which the beam passes -- a kind of technical Catch-22."
Been done already, didn't anyone see Real Genius. Simply use frozen Argon...
Apparently there is already a corporate policy against such things and I'm sure the source of the "illegal" file(s) will be determined and dealt with appropriately. Are you suggesting a camera in everyone's office/cubicle/home and a master "overseer" to police the actions of all employees"? I suspect they're not "demanding" any more from others than what they expect from their own employees.
the fact tha MS is supposed to check. They are the ones that are being high and mighty on the subject
And if "they" acted like Joe Cool, I'm sure the entire software piracy issue would disappear, right?
Hmm, I seem to recall a satellite that crashed into Mars because someone, at no less a place than NASA, failed to load in some appropriate unit conversions.
Wasn't there a problem with an Intel processor when someone left out an entire floating point table?
Suffice to say, not every piece of code/data is checked as thoroughly as it should be, regardless of who you are.
Why is it that you believe MS should be allowed to do this, but that they are allowed to fine or have imprisoned people who violate MS's rights?
So, by your way of thinking, every parent who's ever had a kid commit a crime, should be arrested to the full extent of the law. This, even though the parent(s) may be in law enforcement and/or members of the clergy and entirely unaware of the activities of their offspring.
It must be terribly hard to oversee the daily activities of an organization--the size of MS--down to the level of individual employees. On the one hand, if they tried, they'd be blasted for micro-management. Now they're being blasted for not paying close enough attention. This is MAREKEDLY different from an individual who uses stolen software.
if MS wants a pass on this, then they should lighten up, remove XP activation bullshit, whatever.
As I recall, MS hasn't prevented stolen copies of Windows XP from working, applying patches or updating with service packs. Are you saying they should bend over backwards to help people with stolen software???
You hit the proverbial nail on the head. One interesting aspect about hiring engineers or degreed CS types (especially those with advanced degrees) is they've demonstrated at least some minimal commitment to a career and they're not simply the result of answering an 800-number ad from late night TV ("You can have a rewarding career as a web developer"). Now, having said that. When I was in engineering, at some jobs I'd have degreed co-workers who were obviously just in it for the $; but at other jobs, there were groups of us that would "argue" for hours (long after the day's end--and often over a few too many beers) about designs and the best way to accomplish something (the art of engineering).
It's hard getting a job after college because you lack a proven track record, that's why it's important to consider career-related part-time work in addition to classes. Being a "summer hire" for two+ years will add some credibility to an otherwise empty resume.
I agree with poster. I RTFA and while I disagreed with a few minor points, the emphasis is right-on. Too many Linux advocates are trying to make the round peg fit the square hole. I suspect they seriously underestimate how computer illiterate the business/home world really is. I'll bet that 50% of the computer-using public can't tell you correctly what a "cursor" is. In the business desktop environment, as well as in the home, the OS has to work "out of the box". Give MS their grief, but with Windows XP and even going back to 2000 and to some minor extent Windows 98, their software automatically identified hardware and tried to setup the appropriate drivers, and it came with wizards to set up basic file/print sharing. MS software (written by them or 3-rd party) generally had no dependencies. Binaries that work for Windows 95 most often than not, also work on Windows XP. Most DOS programs also continue to work.
With enough preparation, I suppose nothing stops the scenario you describe. The "undocumented" person still is required to submit former address/precint, valid ID (picture ID such as state-issued driver's license). With cross-checks, hopefully this would be discovered but you make a valid point.
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Sorry, I'm out of the hiring part of medicine. I wasn't even aware there were 1-year programs. Seems like it would limit future career advancement.
Of course you're right, that's why I listed median salaries and not the high/low salaries given at the extreme percentiles in their charts. I listed that site only as one source of support rather than just pulling numbers out of thin air or providing no basis altogether (hey, this is /. and no one would just make up numbers).
What's wrong with "Read The [Fine | Friendly] Manual"?
Then thank you for the job you do.
The "other" nursing specialties do require more training and that's part of their career path (like everyone else). Primary Care Nurse Practioners make on national average $69K. I dated a NP for 7 years (she was a "floor RN" for four of those years), she now makes $85K and a friend of hers is a NP for a hospital specialty department and makes $100K. The friend has no call and the former gf gets paid extra for each weekend she works ($1500 for Fri to Sun--double that if it's a holiday). The median salary for a CRNA is $118K.
Unlike many 9-5 jobs (or 7-3), many jobs in the medical profession are not 40-hour weeks. Many are much more (especially if you count call nights/weekends). When I was a resident, an 80-hour week was considered short (this was of course before resident hour limitations initiated in New York).
When you have a team that enjoys their work, they put in 30/27 without even realizing it. Of course, some of that may be discussing design issues at the local pub... but some work gets done (and even some remembered).
If there's disrespect among mid and upper-level providers (MD's and other staff) toward nurses perhaps it's because of a lack of understanding of each other's tasks / responsibilities / liabilities / time demands. While it's true that nurses have a very tough job for 8-12 hours/day, other providers also have difficult jobs.
As to nurses "fleeing" the profession, I'm surprised as there are numerous articles describing the flock of women and men TO the nursing profession and the 2-year wait to be accepted into many nursing schools.
Which was over a decade ago. Linux/Unix has been around 30+ years and they still haven't learned. Pity.
Excuse me, but you obviously misunderstand the nature of FF pop-up blocking. What more effective way to perform its function than to crash the application/computer--no more pop-up. I guess IE in XP is just behind the times, it simply keeps the pop ups from displaying... bad MS, bad MS.
According to the definitive source, CSI, you can be "compelled", but not forced (though I suppose the semantics of the word could be open to interpretation--Webster says, "to drive or urge forcefully or irresistibly"). Often it's in the interest of the innocent to exclude themselves as a suspect by quickly volunteering specimens. Sort of flies in the face of "innocent until proven guilty", but we're talking about the real world and being expeditious. Oh, IANAL.
"The IRS data divide taxpayers into percentiles according to their adjusted gross incomes. Following is the share of aggregate income taxes paid by each group:
Presumably you could argue with the IRS data but it appears that the upper 25% already pay nearly the 85% you mention, and the upper 50% pay nearly all of it.Skip the "profound", shoot for the profane instead. Most take only four characters.
The item brought to mind a question and I'll admit to having not read all 400+ replies to see if it has been mentioned and addressed. Does the concept of IP apply to novelists beyond the current definition of plagiarism? I mean, how many times can a couple walk along a moonlit beach (etc, etc, etc). Seems like someone should hold the "copyright" to that idea and be able to sue any other author that incorporates that idea into their story. Pretty soon, just as in IT, all the known great ideas will be gobbled up by a handful of authors and no original stories can/will be written.
Give or take and not eliminating redundant songs (255,255 vs 255,255). I eliminated 0-bytes because I don't exactly know what MP3 data fields can contain. All and all, seems a bit more than will fit on most people's/agencies disk farms. I read somewhere that Wal Mart has about 450 terabytes of consumer data, which pales in comparison. I'm curious as how one would back up this amount of data... j/k
Okay, remind me now just how much storage is required by 255^(3*2^20) bytes of data for all those 3MB song permutations (oh wait, thankfully some of those are redundant...).
Been done already, didn't anyone see Real Genius. Simply use frozen Argon...
Apparently there is already a corporate policy against such things and I'm sure the source of the "illegal" file(s) will be determined and dealt with appropriately. Are you suggesting a camera in everyone's office/cubicle/home and a master "overseer" to police the actions of all employees"? I suspect they're not "demanding" any more from others than what they expect from their own employees.
And if "they" acted like Joe Cool, I'm sure the entire software piracy issue would disappear, right?
Hmm, I seem to recall a satellite that crashed into Mars because someone, at no less a place than NASA, failed to load in some appropriate unit conversions.
Wasn't there a problem with an Intel processor when someone left out an entire floating point table?
Suffice to say, not every piece of code/data is checked as thoroughly as it should be, regardless of who you are.
So, by your way of thinking, every parent who's ever had a kid commit a crime, should be arrested to the full extent of the law. This, even though the parent(s) may be in law enforcement and/or members of the clergy and entirely unaware of the activities of their offspring.
It must be terribly hard to oversee the daily activities of an organization--the size of MS--down to the level of individual employees. On the one hand, if they tried, they'd be blasted for micro-management. Now they're being blasted for not paying close enough attention. This is MAREKEDLY different from an individual who uses stolen software.
if MS wants a pass on this, then they should lighten up, remove XP activation bullshit, whatever.
As I recall, MS hasn't prevented stolen copies of Windows XP from working, applying patches or updating with service packs. Are you saying they should bend over backwards to help people with stolen software???
Just one minor point: Lancet is not necessarily a definitive, credible source of information, but no doubt it's better than many websites.
It's hard getting a job after college because you lack a proven track record, that's why it's important to consider career-related part-time work in addition to classes. Being a "summer hire" for two+ years will add some credibility to an otherwise empty resume.
I agree with poster. I RTFA and while I disagreed with a few minor points, the emphasis is right-on. Too many Linux advocates are trying to make the round peg fit the square hole. I suspect they seriously underestimate how computer illiterate the business/home world really is. I'll bet that 50% of the computer-using public can't tell you correctly what a "cursor" is. In the business desktop environment, as well as in the home, the OS has to work "out of the box". Give MS their grief, but with Windows XP and even going back to 2000 and to some minor extent Windows 98, their software automatically identified hardware and tried to setup the appropriate drivers, and it came with wizards to set up basic file/print sharing. MS software (written by them or 3-rd party) generally had no dependencies. Binaries that work for Windows 95 most often than not, also work on Windows XP. Most DOS programs also continue to work.
Gamma rays, as in the Gamma Knife are used in neurosurgery, so they'd better be somewhat controlable. I've never used one personally.
With enough preparation, I suppose nothing stops the scenario you describe. The "undocumented" person still is required to submit former address/precint, valid ID (picture ID such as state-issued driver's license). With cross-checks, hopefully this would be discovered but you make a valid point.