A CS degree from a no-name college is worth much more than a B degree from a no-name college. The latter is still more mobile, but it doesn't open up any immediate doors...they're going to work their way up from the bottom. It takes about 10 years to match the entry level salary of CS when you're talking about smaller, unknown programs.
Long time ago I temp'd at a place that did computer recycling for various companies, mostly for a company that was a large depot of home supplies...Turns the hard drive security wipes were a "dog and pony show", to quote the supervisor. I was instructed to run the formatting utility for about 5 seconds, and then hit cancel and throw it in the "done" pile. "That gets the first part of the drive, the rest doesn't matter."
The people that do this kind of thing have hundreds of drives to do for the day, and there is no QA, so throwing a few in the done pile without clearing it just makes you look good for being extra productive, and nobody gives a shit about the data. Never cheated myself, though I probably should have. I was fired after two weeks, go figure.
Handling rejection is a skill, not a personality trait.
Unfortunately, the only way to learn that skill is to do some rejecting yourself!
So, uh..."grow some nuts and lose the baby fat". Yeah. Easier said than done, right? Well, acting like an old fogey and letting yourself go just doesn't work that well.
Once you figure out that you're biologically programmed to chase people who are nothing like you, people you hate, and then make it a point to avoid people that set your radar off, it makes it 10x easier.
Ugh. I went to college for 8 years, and every year i wrote down about 8 k on my 1040. No big deal.
Just Get Loans (TM). When you're young, there is no better investment. Stocks? No. 401k? No. If you invested your tuition money in gold in 2000 instead of going to college that particular year, and sold the gold today, you'd still be better off. (Well, of course, if you didn't pick a vaginal degree like Art.)
Because even if the gold got you more so far, the gold only pays once. A degree is a returning investment that never stops.
I'm talking about you and the other guy next to you. Idealism is fine, and so are studies, but these aren't going to put bread on your table.
Despite the threat of outsourcing, the computing industry survives. How? Well, it hasn't entirely. People have left. Some are still going hungry.
The arguments you make are no different than the PHB stating that offshoring is always a good idea, the money saved will be spent elsewhere, and they'll find jobs elsewhere, because there are plenty enough, and if they were really willing to compete they'd charge the same price.
If everybody had your ideology, with no compassion for the individuals involved and their unique professional success, and indeed systematically poaching them for the tidbits... there would be very little bread left between us, friend.
And before anyone accuses me a being a fantastical blow-hard making silly stories, the aforementioned audio engineer is a true story, a person who now makes more salary working in IT than the person he replaced.:)
I hope I don't offend anybody! But I wish to drive an idea home...something to consider.
A smart and talented audio engineer is working for a small audio shop. The manager looks at his shrinking portfolio, and decides to close his doors.
We now have a smart and talented, and desperate audio engineer. He decides to switch careers. He talks with your employer, and even though he doesn't have the experience you do, he demonstrates his potential and offers to do your job at half the price.
Now, you get a short phone call, and you're stuck at home, thankful that you don't have to pay for your audio since you don't have an income. And meanwhile the demand and market rate in your profession has gone down a bit, for reasons that you nor anyone else can figure out.
I hope no one is offended, truly, I just hope to demonstrate how silly and self-destructive it is to sing the praise of the downfall of productive industries that would pay good money to smart people like you and I. This all has now been further tarnished by desperate measures demanded of lawyers, but remember this is a VERY separate issue from a talented person losing his job and going after yours. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by one of your peers being cast into the abyss.
While I am certainly guilty of patronizing Pirate Bay, it does not bother me if law will eliminate the possibility of me going out and getting things for free. You know why? Because out there, the market will grow, and for reasons no economics person will be able to quantify, at least one less desperate person out there looking to take MY prosperity away from ME.
Ford makes a solid V8, no doubt about it.
At 12 mi/gal, at an average of $3.50/ gal, that is spent $79399.25 on gas.
Even at a modest goal of 24 mpg, you could have bought at least one very nice car on the savings.
Not saying you'd want anything else, its just there is always a trade-off there. Big engines last longer, but burn more fuel.
Sad part is, someone has probably lifted the idea and is developing it elsewhere.
There are hordes of professional idea thieves out there. Typically they'll waive a funding carrot in order to get the white paper and patent what they can out of it.
Or they give you just enough so it looks like its worth it, but they know you can't go to market with your idea.
Predatory lending 101: The investment contract specifies that the investor owns all IP if the company folds. Step 1:Calculate out how much they need to develop the product, but not a cent for marketing. Step 2: Lend. Step 3: Without marketing capital, the company fails to generate enough sales and folds. Step 4: It's all yours! Profit!
No, the angel investor concept is now wholly owned by Mr. Mobster and Dr. IP Thief, all respectable and highly credentialed.You'll never have enough knowledge to filter these people out, and you'll never keep control of the product under these people.
The only way to succeed without having a deep pocket on your team is to move dev underground and go full cycle in your basement. Then, with the rock lobster in your hand, go looking for money. Then, and only then, will you catch the interest of legitimate investors.
The basement model is tried and true. Don't quit your day job, hang on to your cash for dear life, and don't spend a cent on crap you don't need until your company is turning a healthy profit. Once you have the cash, you can help your self to the pile for product dev and expand and profit more. This is how Microsoft, Apple, and many other big players got started.
Europe, the US North East, and California have been doing so well all these years! lol
Of course, W was a spend hound, so it comes from both sides.
The problem with government is that if the capital base shrinks, the burden of govt as a percentage shoots up. Hence the massive borrowing going on. Its all hidden right now. That is why Democrats print so much money, it is the best way to steal from the rich. Carter was the most successful thief-in-chief in history, and that is why anyone who was any kind of success from that era hates his guts.
The problem with socialism is the reality of the bell curve. If everyone was as productive and intelligent as the top 10%, then socialism is not only possible, but would be the best form of government.
But, welcome to reality, we still have a lot of genetic detritus wandering around and breeding like mad. You need things like abortion and prison to keep these elements from spreading like a cancer.
The root of this problem comes from the area of the world where humans originated...where you don't have to work to hard to survive, there is no harsh winter to remove the lazy from the gene pool, and the most efficient mode for basic survival is to do as little as possible.
Any successful form of government requires a harsh, hard-nosed treatment of your human trash...even Marx foresaw this and suggested imprisoning the shiftless laggards and feeding them only bread and water as a motivation for people to stay productive.
Giving these people government jobs is a solution, but a prohibitively expensive one. There must be a better way!
Well, you could poison the illegal drug supply. However, you'll find that people who on both ends of the bell curve are more likely to do these than the middle, so while destroying your worst, you also take out your best. (for example, it is common, more common than you might think, for extremely talented and productive programmers to use meth to get stuff done. it is also common among borderline-retarded urban hipsters).
Ah, but what about anti-depressants? AHA! Why don't we restrict the drug supply to modes that reduce libido and restrict orgasm. Oh wait, already done. Actually, its a symptom for almost every chronic genetic disorder drug treatment program out there:D
What about a dumbass-restricted disease? Oh wait, AIDS, already done.
Huh, it seems that the good options we have available are already in place, we just got to wait until gene screening becomes available.
Who said it needs to be a pill? Guess you've never lived in the South...
Ever heard of BC powders? Powdered aspirin in a wax paper envelope that you open carefully and pour down your gullet and chase with a glass of sweet tea. Really old-fashioned, and tastes like hell, sure, but it works better than any pill.
Right, because a hobbyist couldn't possibly be bothered to compile their own customized hobbyist kernel to get what they want out of their hobbyist device.
Enabling FAT32 is easy, even a neanderthal could do it.
BTW, your ego-maniacal ramblings may get you milk and cookies from mommy, but here...
FYI, The article is wrong, both are fake. Its in an article, duh. If it has too promotional of a tone, if there are buzzwords. If the spelling and grammar is too perfect.
Oh yeah...honest reviews of sufficient length always have unrelated details. Some promotional slob in an office somewhere isn't going to go off topic. Ya know, crap like "I treated my self to the Sopranos when I stayed there!". or "The maid was hot"
So, if you're like me, and into writing fake reviews...(yeah yeah, I know). don't capitalize, add useless details, and add criticisms no one would care about, like "I thought the hotel soap was a little fruity, but lucky I brought my own". Ya know.
Not to mention companies looking for dirt in the hiring process. The FCRA is violated as a matter of course in many HR dept's, because it is hard to prove if you cover everything up. It wouldn't take long before this data winds up in the hands of a shady background check company, and there's nothing anybody could do about it.
Interviewing == Dating. All the same rules apply. And human nature shuns baggage of any kind, even if it is "fully treated". HR people tend to be ruthless "daters", its their job.
I mean, consider if you found out the person you are dating has numerous mental disorders, how do you react? You get less interested.
You don't want to say "I won't date you anymore because you have paranoid schizophrenia, and here is a copy of the background check I ran on you",
you say, "sorry I don't think this will work out".
Same thing happens in the hiring process, nobody tolerates well the drama that happens when you give people the real reason for not being interested in them.
TFA talks about bacteria being mixed in with human samples accidentally, then sequenced. The bacterial DNA shows up with the human DNA, and the bacterial DNA is being documented as human.
I'm sure that uterus will become immortal, passing from mother to daughter for all eternity.
Somehow we have to allow people choice, and yet, the human imperative to breed means they go out and pass on their deformities to the next generation, making the problem worse.
Ultimately, an enlightened person will come to the conclusion that genetically engineering the human race (at least selecting the best available of the couple's sperm and ova) is the only way that all of humanity will not become degenerate slaves to modern medicine.
Yes, the computer-savvy restriction is exactly how it should work!
Right now piracy is acting as a regressive subsidy where rich teeny boppers with mom and dad's fat pipe are getting the most benefit, and those who are poor and don't have internet see none of the benefits. Not to mention, it is indirectly subsidizing Red China by diverting the flow of funds from software developers and content makers to the purchase of hardware and trinkets. How is that fair to anyone?
It is simply too easy to pirate, and that is the real reason why the RIAA and other legal constructs are on the offensive...there needs to be a filter, even something as simple as requiring a command line entry, to keep the numbers down so it doesn't draw international attention like it is.
I don't think it is unfair to restrict access to intelligent types who actually have a chance of being inspired to contribute something to society with the content or software they "borrow". The Al Bundys of the world are going to grow up to be overweight shoe store salesmen. Types like this will abuse any freeloader system they come across.
It is far easier to automate the gamut of tasks that a person with a <100 IQ can do, versus a person with >100 IQ. The former will be automated out of the picture, and therefore will be ridiculously cheap. We're going back to the good old days when your average middle-classman could afford a maid, a butler, a city home, and a country home.
Actually, Mr. Weiner hasn't directly denied the accusation yet, so it's still up in the air...he's stubborn and won't give a straight answer.
He's playing the stump card with the press and argued the validity of the questions reporters had...that might work on the floor, but in the context of a 5 second news blurb, you're screwed, they'll show a few words and that's it. It looks defensive...aka, guilty.
It's his typical style. I've watched him debate on C-SPAN and he tends to be bull headed, passionate, and quite verbose. Can't say I agree with his politics, but his heart was in the right place, and it's sad to watch him choke on his own idealism over something so stupid.
Hmm, let me think of all the valuable social lessons I gleaned from High School.
* You can make a bong out of a soda can by crushing in the side, and using a pin to make the vent and the carb.
* Muscles have more impact than science.
* Only talk about what other people do. Being genuine or showing true creativity is perilous.
* Low body fat % makes the man. Fat people have little or no influence in society.
* Having sex with strangers is a great way to have something to talk about.
* Being on top means stepping on others to get your way.
* Playing guitar is a great way for an ugly guy to get casual sex.
* Cutting in line is ok. If the other guy gets mad at you and swears, he'll look like the ass and get detention for foul language.
Ya know, I have no idea how I could live life without what I learned in high school.
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It depends on what college you can get into.
A CS degree from a no-name college is worth much more than a B degree from a no-name college. The latter is still more mobile, but it doesn't open up any immediate doors...they're going to work their way up from the bottom. It takes about 10 years to match the entry level salary of CS when you're talking about smaller, unknown programs.
You'd be surprised.
Long time ago I temp'd at a place that did computer recycling for various companies, mostly for a company that was a large depot of home supplies...Turns the hard drive security wipes were a "dog and pony show", to quote the supervisor. I was instructed to run the formatting utility for about 5 seconds, and then hit cancel and throw it in the "done" pile. "That gets the first part of the drive, the rest doesn't matter."
The people that do this kind of thing have hundreds of drives to do for the day, and there is no QA, so throwing a few in the done pile without clearing it just makes you look good for being extra productive, and nobody gives a shit about the data. Never cheated myself, though I probably should have. I was fired after two weeks, go figure.
Handling rejection is a skill, not a personality trait.
Unfortunately, the only way to learn that skill is to do some rejecting yourself!
So, uh..."grow some nuts and lose the baby fat". Yeah. Easier said than done, right? Well, acting like an old fogey and letting yourself go just doesn't work that well.
Once you figure out that you're biologically programmed to chase people who are nothing like you, people you hate, and then make it a point to avoid people that set your radar off, it makes it 10x easier.
And outsourced the executions to his friends at home
Ugh. I went to college for 8 years, and every year i wrote down about 8 k on my 1040. No big deal.
Just Get Loans (TM). When you're young, there is no better investment. Stocks? No. 401k? No. If you invested your tuition money in gold in 2000 instead of going to college that particular year, and sold the gold today, you'd still be better off. (Well, of course, if you didn't pick a vaginal degree like Art.)
Because even if the gold got you more so far, the gold only pays once. A degree is a returning investment that never stops.
Well, they do. Its still the thought that counts.
If I have a 20 game library, and the console dies, what is the likelyhood I ever buy the console ever again?
NEVER! Not because I couldn't save up for it, but because all of a sudden I realize I was a fool for buying, and will never do so again.
I'm talking about you and the other guy next to you. Idealism is fine, and so are studies, but these aren't going to put bread on your table.
Despite the threat of outsourcing, the computing industry survives. How? Well, it hasn't entirely. People have left. Some are still going hungry.
The arguments you make are no different than the PHB stating that offshoring is always a good idea, the money saved will be spent elsewhere, and they'll find jobs elsewhere, because there are plenty enough, and if they were really willing to compete they'd charge the same price.
If everybody had your ideology, with no compassion for the individuals involved and their unique professional success, and indeed systematically poaching them for the tidbits... there would be very little bread left between us, friend.
And before anyone accuses me a being a fantastical blow-hard making silly stories, the aforementioned audio engineer is a true story, a person who now makes more salary working in IT than the person he replaced. :)
I hope I don't offend anybody! But I wish to drive an idea home...something to consider.
A smart and talented audio engineer is working for a small audio shop. The manager looks at his shrinking portfolio, and decides to close his doors.
We now have a smart and talented, and desperate audio engineer. He decides to switch careers. He talks with your employer, and even though he doesn't have the experience you do, he demonstrates his potential and offers to do your job at half the price.
Now, you get a short phone call, and you're stuck at home, thankful that you don't have to pay for your audio since you don't have an income. And meanwhile the demand and market rate in your profession has gone down a bit, for reasons that you nor anyone else can figure out.
I hope no one is offended, truly, I just hope to demonstrate how silly and self-destructive it is to sing the praise of the downfall of productive industries that would pay good money to smart people like you and I. This all has now been further tarnished by desperate measures demanded of lawyers, but remember this is a VERY separate issue from a talented person losing his job and going after yours. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by one of your peers being cast into the abyss.
While I am certainly guilty of patronizing Pirate Bay, it does not bother me if law will eliminate the possibility of me going out and getting things for free. You know why? Because out there, the market will grow, and for reasons no economics person will be able to quantify, at least one less desperate person out there looking to take MY prosperity away from ME.
And nothing of value was lost....
Note to Self: I'm getting the hell out of this country when I retire
Ford makes a solid V8, no doubt about it. At 12 mi/gal, at an average of $3.50/ gal, that is spent $79399.25 on gas. Even at a modest goal of 24 mpg, you could have bought at least one very nice car on the savings. Not saying you'd want anything else, its just there is always a trade-off there. Big engines last longer, but burn more fuel.
Sad part is, someone has probably lifted the idea and is developing it elsewhere.
There are hordes of professional idea thieves out there. Typically they'll waive a funding carrot in order to get the white paper and patent what they can out of it.
Or they give you just enough so it looks like its worth it, but they know you can't go to market with your idea.
Predatory lending 101: The investment contract specifies that the investor owns all IP if the company folds. Step 1:Calculate out how much they need to develop the product, but not a cent for marketing. Step 2: Lend. Step 3: Without marketing capital, the company fails to generate enough sales and folds. Step 4: It's all yours! Profit!
No, the angel investor concept is now wholly owned by Mr. Mobster and Dr. IP Thief, all respectable and highly credentialed.You'll never have enough knowledge to filter these people out, and you'll never keep control of the product under these people.
The only way to succeed without having a deep pocket on your team is to move dev underground and go full cycle in your basement. Then, with the rock lobster in your hand, go looking for money. Then, and only then, will you catch the interest of legitimate investors.
The basement model is tried and true. Don't quit your day job, hang on to your cash for dear life, and don't spend a cent on crap you don't need until your company is turning a healthy profit. Once you have the cash, you can help your self to the pile for product dev and expand and profit more. This is how Microsoft, Apple, and many other big players got started.
Yeah, darn GOP!
:D
Europe, the US North East, and California have been doing so well all these years! lol
Of course, W was a spend hound, so it comes from both sides.
The problem with government is that if the capital base shrinks, the burden of govt as a percentage shoots up. Hence the massive borrowing going on. Its all hidden right now. That is why Democrats print so much money, it is the best way to steal from the rich. Carter was the most successful thief-in-chief in history, and that is why anyone who was any kind of success from that era hates his guts.
The problem with socialism is the reality of the bell curve. If everyone was as productive and intelligent as the top 10%, then socialism is not only possible, but would be the best form of government.
But, welcome to reality, we still have a lot of genetic detritus wandering around and breeding like mad. You need things like abortion and prison to keep these elements from spreading like a cancer.
The root of this problem comes from the area of the world where humans originated...where you don't have to work to hard to survive, there is no harsh winter to remove the lazy from the gene pool, and the most efficient mode for basic survival is to do as little as possible.
Any successful form of government requires a harsh, hard-nosed treatment of your human trash...even Marx foresaw this and suggested imprisoning the shiftless laggards and feeding them only bread and water as a motivation for people to stay productive.
Giving these people government jobs is a solution, but a prohibitively expensive one. There must be a better way!
Well, you could poison the illegal drug supply. However, you'll find that people who on both ends of the bell curve are more likely to do these than the middle, so while destroying your worst, you also take out your best. (for example, it is common, more common than you might think, for extremely talented and productive programmers to use meth to get stuff done. it is also common among borderline-retarded urban hipsters).
Ah, but what about anti-depressants? AHA! Why don't we restrict the drug supply to modes that reduce libido and restrict orgasm. Oh wait, already done. Actually, its a symptom for almost every chronic genetic disorder drug treatment program out there
What about a dumbass-restricted disease? Oh wait, AIDS, already done.
Huh, it seems that the good options we have available are already in place, we just got to wait until gene screening becomes available.
If everybody can have everything, then nobody can have nothing
Don't mean to be impolite...but, you could start...paying for things. You know, start small, like an MP3, and go from there.
(God, take away the free shit and the Joos pitch a bitch don't they!?)
Who said it needs to be a pill? Guess you've never lived in the South...
Ever heard of BC powders? Powdered aspirin in a wax paper envelope that you open carefully and pour down your gullet and chase with a glass of sweet tea. Really old-fashioned, and tastes like hell, sure, but it works better than any pill.
Right, because a hobbyist couldn't possibly be bothered to compile their own customized hobbyist kernel to get what they want out of their hobbyist device.
Enabling FAT32 is easy, even a neanderthal could do it.
BTW, your ego-maniacal ramblings may get you milk and cookies from mommy, but here...
FYI, The article is wrong, both are fake. Its in an article, duh. If it has too promotional of a tone, if there are buzzwords. If the spelling and grammar is too perfect.
Oh yeah...honest reviews of sufficient length always have unrelated details. Some promotional slob in an office somewhere isn't going to go off topic. Ya know, crap like "I treated my self to the Sopranos when I stayed there!". or "The maid was hot"
So, if you're like me, and into writing fake reviews...(yeah yeah, I know). don't capitalize, add useless details, and add criticisms no one would care about, like "I thought the hotel soap was a little fruity, but lucky I brought my own". Ya know.
Not to mention companies looking for dirt in the hiring process. The FCRA is violated as a matter of course in many HR dept's, because it is hard to prove if you cover everything up. It wouldn't take long before this data winds up in the hands of a shady background check company, and there's nothing anybody could do about it.
Interviewing == Dating. All the same rules apply. And human nature shuns baggage of any kind, even if it is "fully treated". HR people tend to be ruthless "daters", its their job.
I mean, consider if you found out the person you are dating has numerous mental disorders, how do you react? You get less interested.
You don't want to say
"I won't date you anymore because you have paranoid schizophrenia, and here is a copy of the background check I ran on you",
you say,
"sorry I don't think this will work out".
Same thing happens in the hiring process, nobody tolerates well the drama that happens when you give people the real reason for not being interested in them.
The topic is not about "vestigial" DNA.
TFA talks about bacteria being mixed in with human samples accidentally, then sequenced. The bacterial DNA shows up with the human DNA, and the bacterial DNA is being documented as human.
For real.
I'm sure that uterus will become immortal, passing from mother to daughter for all eternity.
Somehow we have to allow people choice, and yet, the human imperative to breed means they go out and pass on their deformities to the next generation, making the problem worse.
Ultimately, an enlightened person will come to the conclusion that genetically engineering the human race (at least selecting the best available of the couple's sperm and ova) is the only way that all of humanity will not become degenerate slaves to modern medicine.
Yes, the computer-savvy restriction is exactly how it should work!
Right now piracy is acting as a regressive subsidy where rich teeny boppers with mom and dad's fat pipe are getting the most benefit, and those who are poor and don't have internet see none of the benefits. Not to mention, it is indirectly subsidizing Red China by diverting the flow of funds from software developers and content makers to the purchase of hardware and trinkets. How is that fair to anyone?
It is simply too easy to pirate, and that is the real reason why the RIAA and other legal constructs are on the offensive...there needs to be a filter, even something as simple as requiring a command line entry, to keep the numbers down so it doesn't draw international attention like it is.
I don't think it is unfair to restrict access to intelligent types who actually have a chance of being inspired to contribute something to society with the content or software they "borrow". The Al Bundys of the world are going to grow up to be overweight shoe store salesmen. Types like this will abuse any freeloader system they come across.
No, automation meets the first step.
It is far easier to automate the gamut of tasks that a person with a <100 IQ can do, versus a person with >100 IQ. The former will be automated out of the picture, and therefore will be ridiculously cheap. We're going back to the good old days when your average middle-classman could afford a maid, a butler, a city home, and a country home.
Actually, Mr. Weiner hasn't directly denied the accusation yet, so it's still up in the air...he's stubborn and won't give a straight answer.
He's playing the stump card with the press and argued the validity of the questions reporters had...that might work on the floor, but in the context of a 5 second news blurb, you're screwed, they'll show a few words and that's it. It looks defensive...aka, guilty.
It's his typical style. I've watched him debate on C-SPAN and he tends to be bull headed, passionate, and quite verbose. Can't say I agree with his politics, but his heart was in the right place, and it's sad to watch him choke on his own idealism over something so stupid.
Yes, and how very valuable that is.
Hmm, let me think of all the valuable social lessons I gleaned from High School.
* You can make a bong out of a soda can by crushing in the side, and using a pin to make the vent and the carb.
* Muscles have more impact than science.
* Only talk about what other people do. Being genuine or showing true creativity is perilous.
* Low body fat % makes the man. Fat people have little or no influence in society.
* Having sex with strangers is a great way to have something to talk about.
* Being on top means stepping on others to get your way.
* Playing guitar is a great way for an ugly guy to get casual sex.
* Cutting in line is ok. If the other guy gets mad at you and swears, he'll look like the ass and get detention for foul language.
Ya know, I have no idea how I could live life without what I learned in high school.