For my part, I'll look at all low-end cameras, Android or not, and see which has the physical and electronic features that will work for me.
i think that misses the point. why did you end us using your phone-based camera so much? part of it is that it's always with you, but the other big factor is that you get all of the photo-based utilities available to android... whether it be online storage, sharing to facebook, or photo manipulation, auto upload, and so on.
Your statement like saying the Moon is too cold to live on. It's a vacuum there, so it doesn't matter how cold it is. Mars isn't a vacuum, but it's pretty close.
okay, let me rephrase...
"silly. even the very most hospitable regions of mars are like airless, pretty-close to vacuum hells compared to the most inhospitable regions of earth."
better?
You don't get much "back for the buck" when you send a rover every 10 years and have an 8kb/sec data stream to communicate with it. A human geologist with a shovel will get you more science in an hour than that probe will in a year.
the point of any mission is to capture data. analysis occurs back home, because that's where the resources to perform the analysis live. whether the data is acquired by a robot or otherwise.
I think we should have a manned base on Mars because it is cool
did anyone ever tell you you'd make an excellent politician? i can see you in congress, at the podium "hey man, so what if it takes 10% of our GDP. it's COOL man."
1) No one else used swipe to unlock prior to Apple. Generally they used hitting some sort of button to unlock. 2) There are other methods to unlock on a touch screen. For example MeeGo's double press to unlock.
completely irrelevant. being first to think of an idea doesn't make it patentable, nor does the existence of alternative methods.
Yes in retrospect it is obvious. But... there is pretty clear evidence in 2005, 2006 it wasn't obvious based on the fact that other people weren't thinking of it.
again, that's not how it works. the fact that nobody was doing it in 2006 doesn't mean it's not obvious. someone always does something first. by your logic, nothing is obvious because heck, there was always a time in the past when someone wasn't doing it.
well, i know that "core" doesn't mean there's absolutely, positively, no possible alternative way to implement it. p&z is a core usability feature. p&z is a feature that affects peoples' decision to purchase.
maybe you don't recall when android didn't have p&z. i do. it was a major drawback and duly noted in the press. it was a big deal when it got it.
Mind you, if a patent like GSM radio communication sells for 1 cent per device, I can easily see why 'pinch to zoom' should sell for at least $10 per device:)
i really, really, hope that's sarcasm. a GSM radio is a highly complex combination of software and hardware. pinch and zoom is something that some UX engineer thought of in the shower one morning.
The two utility patents were for "pinch to zoom" and "bounce back" windows, neither of which is essential to core functionality.
p&z isn't a core functionality? it's used in many of google's core apps and thousands of 3rd party apps. that, and there's no obvious replacement for it.
that went over your head i see. the point is, the only reason apple has the success it does today is because other innovators didn't patent ridiculous things and swarm them with lawsuits over their "innovations". apple is a hypocrite because they are destroying the environment that allowed them to become successful.
the problem isn't that something like android exists. android is about as similar to iOS as linux is similar to windows (from a user's perspective). the problem is that apple was granted silly patents for things like rounded corners, pinch / zoom, and wipe to unlock that took about a minute of "r&d" time to come up with, and that they are actually using those patents to terrorize the rest of the tech industry.
i mean really, consider swipe to unlock. do you think apple assembled a team of 500 usability experts and conducted years of extensive user studies to come up with that? or do you think one guy had an idea pop into his head? just because you thought of it first doesn't make it patentable. it has to be non-obvious. when you see swipe to unlock, do you think to yourself "oh my god this is the most amazing feature in the world how the !@#$! did they come up with this?" or do you think, like me, that's it a pretty obvious solution for screen unlock on a device with a touch screen? swipe is the the simplest touch screen gesture in the book and existed *before* apple's patent... so someone just put a simple gesture that existed before apple's patent together with a concept that existed on mobile phones since the beginning of time (lock screen).
think of it this way, what if someone had patented double click to start an app? or using drag to move a file from one place to another... so only one OS could use that from 20 years ago (or whatever) until the suing stopped? i can say unequivocally that would have been bad for the advancement of technology. and those are just two example. if pinch / zoom and swipe to unlock are patentable, think of all the crazy, trivial things that might have been patented, and that will be in the future thanks to the climate that apple has created in the tech industry.
I see the trial was in San Jose. I am curious whether Koreans will be suspicious of the verdict. Maybe such trials should be on neutral ground. For what it's worth, halfway from San Jose to Korea from West to East appears to be, roughly, France.
the trial was in san jose (USA) because the lawsuit concerns samsung USA and sales of samsung phones in the USA. if it was about sales of samsung phones in korea, the trial would be in korea.
right on. because apple had the first portable digital music player in the world, right? no... but they made the first clamshell laptop right? um... okay, okay, they certainly were first with the graphical operating system? the mouse? but certainly they had the first smartphone right? wait... the first tablet computer? and so on...
samsung does what apple does... they take other people's ideas and improves them, and makes them affordable to the masses. you could argue that samsung's designs didn't improve anything... but here's what they did do... they gave people that don't want to convert to the Apple Way Of Life an option.
apple has built it's empire by freely copying others' innovations. now that they are at the top with a massive cash pile and a team of bloodthirsty lawyers, they are going to stifle a major portion of the tech industry. i don't begrudge them, that's what big corporations are supposed to do... maximize profit at all costs.
When Apple really, really doesn't like you - they have no qualms just shutting you out. See also the replacement of Google Maps, the removal of YouTube app pre-install, the long delay in approving Google Voice (Siri 'competitor').
google voice has nothing to do with voice recognition / language processing.
We do not send a manned expedition to Mars. We send a colonization wave to Mars
silly. even the very most hospitable regions of mars are like freezing airless hells compared to the most inhospitable regions of earth. if you are looking for more living room or better living conditions, start on earth and "terraform" the deserts and the arctic.
there's no scientific reason to send a man to mars... the only purpose is a political stunt. i say screw it. let other countries throw away their riches beating the other guy with a man on mars (like the US did in the 60s). let the US be the country that does economical, big bang for the buck science with unmanned probes.
Those things are about the size of a tall garbage can. Imagine how long something the size of a colony ship would take, at max thrust!)
i can imagine that a propelled colony ship would move a hell of a lot faster than a forever drifting garbage can. especially if it had (10,000 / 2) years to accelerate.
Robots and engineered life will quickly advance to the point of making terraforming plausible to start within a lifetime, possibly making nearby planets worth the extreme costs of travel.
even the most hospitable reaches of mars are hell compared to the most inhospitable places on earth. if you want to terraform something, terraform the deserts and arctic of earth.
if you were able to follow a simple conversation thread, you would have understood that i wasn't saying linus is abnormal for liking mac hardware, he's abnormal for wanting to install linux over osx.
and linus torvalds has the same sensibilities and motivations as the average consumer, right? sheesh.
also, did you know bill gates is running windows on his laptop? did you know sergey brin has an android phone? other shocking facts omitted for brevity.
If a process isn't disk-intensive, an SSD will make no difference
and almost all apps are relatively disk intensive (vs. CPU intensive) and hence IO bound. unless you are running something like BOINC that just crunches numbers.
on my mac laptop (without SSD), the only time i see the CPU go above ~20% is when i start eclipse, and that's with 16GB of RAM.
Show kindness and generosity to people and they will be more likely to return it.
simply not true; people, including myself have experimented with donate-ware. it simply doesn't work.
i have a relatively popular (hundreds of thousands of downloads) android application. it's free and open source with no ads. i also have the exact same app published for a price of $1 and i make it clear to folks that the donate app and the free app are exactly the same so there's no catches.
couldn't be more honest and generous than that i'd say. however, last year, i made about $30 donations.
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For my part, I'll look at all low-end cameras, Android or not, and see which has the physical and electronic features that will work for me.
i think that misses the point. why did you end us using your phone-based camera so much? part of it is that it's always with you, but the other big factor is that you get all of the photo-based utilities available to android ... whether it be online storage, sharing to facebook, or photo manipulation, auto upload, and so on.
Your statement like saying the Moon is too cold to live on. It's a vacuum there, so it doesn't matter how cold it is. Mars isn't a vacuum, but it's pretty close.
okay, let me rephrase ...
"silly. even the very most hospitable regions of mars are like airless, pretty-close to vacuum hells compared to the most inhospitable regions of earth."
better?
You don't get much "back for the buck" when you send a rover every 10 years and have an 8kb/sec data stream to communicate with it. A human geologist with a shovel will get you more science in an hour than that probe will in a year.
the point of any mission is to capture data. analysis occurs back home, because that's where the resources to perform the analysis live. whether the data is acquired by a robot or otherwise.
i heard that the award is taxable ... now there's a conflict of interest.
I think we should have a manned base on Mars because it is cool
did anyone ever tell you you'd make an excellent politician? i can see you in congress, at the podium "hey man, so what if it takes 10% of our GDP. it's COOL man."
1) No one else used swipe to unlock prior to Apple. Generally they used hitting some sort of button to unlock.
2) There are other methods to unlock on a touch screen. For example MeeGo's double press to unlock.
completely irrelevant. being first to think of an idea doesn't make it patentable, nor does the existence of alternative methods.
Yes in retrospect it is obvious. But... there is pretty clear evidence in 2005, 2006 it wasn't obvious based on the fact that other people weren't thinking of it.
again, that's not how it works. the fact that nobody was doing it in 2006 doesn't mean it's not obvious. someone always does something first. by your logic, nothing is obvious because heck, there was always a time in the past when someone wasn't doing it.
well, i know that "core" doesn't mean there's absolutely, positively, no possible alternative way to implement it. p&z is a core usability feature. p&z is a feature that affects peoples' decision to purchase.
maybe you don't recall when android didn't have p&z. i do. it was a major drawback and duly noted in the press. it was a big deal when it got it.
Mind you, if a patent like GSM radio communication sells for 1 cent per device, I can easily see why 'pinch to zoom' should sell for at least $10 per device :)
i really, really, hope that's sarcasm. a GSM radio is a highly complex combination of software and hardware. pinch and zoom is something that some UX engineer thought of in the shower one morning.
The two utility patents were for "pinch to zoom" and "bounce back" windows, neither of which is essential to core functionality.
p&z isn't a core functionality? it's used in many of google's core apps and thousands of 3rd party apps. that, and there's no obvious replacement for it.
that went over your head i see. the point is, the only reason apple has the success it does today is because other innovators didn't patent ridiculous things and swarm them with lawsuits over their "innovations". apple is a hypocrite because they are destroying the environment that allowed them to become successful.
the problem isn't that something like android exists. android is about as similar to iOS as linux is similar to windows (from a user's perspective). the problem is that apple was granted silly patents for things like rounded corners, pinch / zoom, and wipe to unlock that took about a minute of "r&d" time to come up with, and that they are actually using those patents to terrorize the rest of the tech industry.
i mean really, consider swipe to unlock. do you think apple assembled a team of 500 usability experts and conducted years of extensive user studies to come up with that? or do you think one guy had an idea pop into his head? just because you thought of it first doesn't make it patentable. it has to be non-obvious. when you see swipe to unlock, do you think to yourself "oh my god this is the most amazing feature in the world how the !@#$! did they come up with this?" or do you think, like me, that's it a pretty obvious solution for screen unlock on a device with a touch screen? swipe is the the simplest touch screen gesture in the book and existed *before* apple's patent ... so someone just put a simple gesture that existed before apple's patent together with a concept that existed on mobile phones since the beginning of time (lock screen).
think of it this way, what if someone had patented double click to start an app? or using drag to move a file from one place to another ... so only one OS could use that from 20 years ago (or whatever) until the suing stopped? i can say unequivocally that would have been bad for the advancement of technology. and those are just two example. if pinch / zoom and swipe to unlock are patentable, think of all the crazy, trivial things that might have been patented, and that will be in the future thanks to the climate that apple has created in the tech industry.
From now on, all of Samsung's products will be as confusing as the galaxy note 10. They won't have Apple's UX to fall back on anymore.
you see more of this,
http://cdn3.mos.techradar.com//art/mobile_phones/Samsung/GalaxyS3/Galaxy%20S3%20review/Screenshots/Samsung_Galaxy_S3_review_083-240-100.jpg
because no vendor could every rely on them again and their multi-billion dollar chip business would be destroyed?
i'm just guessing.
I see the trial was in San Jose. I am curious whether Koreans will be suspicious of the verdict. Maybe such trials should be on neutral ground. For what it's worth, halfway from San Jose to Korea from West to East appears to be, roughly, France.
the trial was in san jose (USA) because the lawsuit concerns samsung USA and sales of samsung phones in the USA. if it was about sales of samsung phones in korea, the trial would be in korea.
because conan is an american show and apple is an american company and samsung is a korean company?
right on. because apple had the first portable digital music player in the world, right? no ... but they made the first clamshell laptop right? um ... okay, okay, they certainly were first with the graphical operating system? the mouse? but certainly they had the first smartphone right? wait ... the first tablet computer? and so on ...
samsung does what apple does ... they take other people's ideas and improves them, and makes them affordable to the masses. you could argue that samsung's designs didn't improve anything ... but here's what they did do ... they gave people that don't want to convert to the Apple Way Of Life an option.
apple has built it's empire by freely copying others' innovations. now that they are at the top with a massive cash pile and a team of bloodthirsty lawyers, they are going to stifle a major portion of the tech industry. i don't begrudge them, that's what big corporations are supposed to do ... maximize profit at all costs.
The fact is that Apple is not yet suing quite a few Android vendors based on design patents - only Samsung, with blatant copies of products.
fixed that for you.
When Apple really, really doesn't like you - they have no qualms just shutting you out. See also the replacement of Google Maps, the removal of YouTube app pre-install, the long delay in approving Google Voice (Siri 'competitor').
google voice has nothing to do with voice recognition / language processing.
We do not send a manned expedition to Mars. We send a colonization wave to Mars
silly. even the very most hospitable regions of mars are like freezing airless hells compared to the most inhospitable regions of earth. if you are looking for more living room or better living conditions, start on earth and "terraform" the deserts and the arctic.
there's no scientific reason to send a man to mars ... the only purpose is a political stunt. i say screw it. let other countries throw away their riches beating the other guy with a man on mars (like the US did in the 60s). let the US be the country that does economical, big bang for the buck science with unmanned probes.
Those things are about the size of a tall garbage can. Imagine how long something the size of a colony ship would take, at max thrust!)
i can imagine that a propelled colony ship would move a hell of a lot faster than a forever drifting garbage can. especially if it had (10,000 / 2) years to accelerate.
Robots and engineered life will quickly advance to the point of making terraforming plausible to start within a lifetime, possibly making nearby planets worth the extreme costs of travel.
even the most hospitable reaches of mars are hell compared to the most inhospitable places on earth. if you want to terraform something, terraform the deserts and arctic of earth.
if you were able to follow a simple conversation thread, you would have understood that i wasn't saying linus is abnormal for liking mac hardware, he's abnormal for wanting to install linux over osx.
and linus torvalds has the same sensibilities and motivations as the average consumer, right? sheesh.
also, did you know bill gates is running windows on his laptop? did you know sergey brin has an android phone? other shocking facts omitted for brevity.
I really doubt people choose a mac over Linux over this kind of test.
i really doubt many people would be dull enough to pay top dollar for mac hardware just to run linux.
If a process isn't disk-intensive, an SSD will make no difference
and almost all apps are relatively disk intensive (vs. CPU intensive) and hence IO bound. unless you are running something like BOINC that just crunches numbers.
on my mac laptop (without SSD), the only time i see the CPU go above ~20% is when i start eclipse, and that's with 16GB of RAM.
Show kindness and generosity to people and they will be more likely to return it.
simply not true; people, including myself have experimented with donate-ware. it simply doesn't work.
i have a relatively popular (hundreds of thousands of downloads) android application. it's free and open source with no ads. i also have the exact same app published for a price of $1 and i make it clear to folks that the donate app and the free app are exactly the same so there's no catches.
couldn't be more honest and generous than that i'd say. however, last year, i made about $30 donations.
The moment you used the word "copies" you implicitly denied is is stealing
yes, it looks like your superior intellect destroyed my argument. i've learned an important lesson about not engaging with hyper-geniuses.