I mean companies are rich, right? They can afford to pay their entire workforce salaries that fall in the top 1% income bracket nationally. For Google, this would only be about $26 billion dollars. No sweat.
he was being facetious. it only takes a 20-25% bump to get people to hop jobs.
and yes, companies are rich. companies like google make billions in profits. could they afford to bump (a small subset of) salaries by 20-25%? and if they can't so be it. companies don't deserve to exist at any cost to society. we have all manner of regulations that prevent companies from doing harmful things that would otherwise increase their profits. this isn't any different.
Major economics fail here. Are you trying to tell us that if you doubled or quintupled the salary for those positions, you still would not be able to find people capable of doing them? Good qualified engineers would not happily leave their other jobs for a far better paying one at your company?
^^^ of course they would. and it wouldn't take 5x, or even 2x. most people are willing to hop for a 20-25% bump.
They're really only willing to hire senior devs who already know what they're doing.
and there you go. that's perfectly reasonable... and it's also perfectly reasonable for those senior devs to command a high salary. should it be any other way?
We were paying competitive market rates, with excellent benefits
no you weren't. you stated yourself the proof of that: you couldn't hire anyone.
more interested in App or web development for startups
uh... no. people are interested in a fair wage for their skill set. embedded engineers are in high demand. IMHO it's generally more complex work that requires more experience. you're going to have to pay more for that type of skill set.
basically what you are saying is that your company had a salary they were willing to pay for a embedded systems, but the salary wasn't enough to lure anyone in. so instead of paying more, you decided to import someone that would work for cheaper. you've generally hit the nail on the head here. it isn't that skilled workers don't exist in the US, it's that hiring them would cut into the precious profits of your fortune 500 company. of course, you are going to lobby for and hire cheaper workers. it's what corporations do.
Our current president endorsed dog eating and I'll bet fewer than ten people cared.
yes, and anyone with half a brain knows not to condemn someone for eating dog while you yourself are eating pigs and cows and chickens. it's called cultural relativism.
p.s., partaking in something at some point in your life doesn't mean you "endorsed" it then, or now.
You are right, when everyone is using the pipe at the same time, there will be degradation. So why not charge for internet access like electricity? Make it cheaper during non-peak hours and convert to fully usage-based billing. No flat fee for access, or at most a very small one.
right, as you said. customers are confused enough about data caps. now they have to think about when they can watch a movie and when they can't.
personally i think a fair overage charge would solve the problem.
You mean like how I use my home internet connection? Why would it have to be different just because the screen is smaller?
i don't think this is about you. it's about the carrying capacity of the current infrastructure.
If they sold me unlimited data plan without the means to provide it, why is this my fault?
it's not your fault. they were wrong to offer that. now that's being corrected, and they are publicizing the data caps that were always required in the first place. enjoy your data caps. or go pay for a business line.
Comcast will never run out of 1s and 0s to send you
you are confused about the nature of the problem. this has nothing (or little) to do with what it costs an ISP to transfer a bit. it has everything to do with carrying capacity. the pipe is only so big. if enough people stream at the same time, the pipe is full resulting in degraded service for everyone. the ISP has to spend money in the Real World to increase the pipe size.
you could make the argument that data caps should only be in effect when the pipe is full. fair enough, but that's a real confusing message to consumers.
fast food places sell "unlimited refills". what do you think would happen if you brought in a 50 gallon drum and tried to fill it (by filling your original purchase cup and dumping it into the 50 gallon drum)?
my old condo complex has "free water", and "free hot water" (built into the price of the HOA) since it was much cheaper to have a common water meter and heater than one for each unit. what do you think would happen if i left my shower on hot 24 hours a day?
the grocery store offers "free samples". what do you think would happen if you pulled up a chair and decided to make a meal out of it?
my current employer offered "unlimited starbucks cards" to all employees as a perk. what do you think would happen if someone started eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner at starbucks? oh wait, that did happen. bye bye starbucks cards.
yes, it is related. the reason is that every limited resource that is advertised as unlimited assumes people will be reasonable. i don't feel too sorry for the person that thought they could get infinity of some resource for a fixed price. yeah, you'll get what you want though. the telcos won't advertise unlimited anymore. you're also going to get data caps. congratulations. you win.
it was dumb for carriers to use this as a marketing ploy. they didn't understand the implications of what they were offering.
however, if you, as a semi-technically literate person, really thought you'd be able to transfer TBs of data on that $60 a month data plan tethering your laptop, gaming PC, and smart TV, and streaming HD movies 23 hours a day... well... really?
amazon gets customer satisfaction. they understand that eating $30 on rush shipping, or a hundred bucks or whatever on a mis-ship once will get them a lifetime customer that spends thousands or more a year and spreads the good word to all their friends and family.
i am really curious how you could possibly think this is relevant.
Newegg has worked for me.
does newegg have garden shovels, dog food, halloween costumes, and sanitary wipes?
I rarely see things that I would buy on Amazon for more then a few dollars cheaper
i don't think anyone claims amazon is always the cheapest. it is always close to the cheapest, convenient, fast, dependable, a wide variety, and has great customer service (since 2004 anyway).
I run Linux + X11 + Fvwm on my 9" laptop. Close enough? I also ran OpenBSD + X11 + FVWM happily and productively on my sharp Zaurus SLC3100 with its teeny (4"???) screen.
if it's so awesome, why isn't the whole world doing it?
sorry, but if that was such a great and useful setup, we'd see more windowed mobile OSes. and no, "people just consume what apple force feeds them" isn't a great answer. apple will produce whatever people will consume, and i'm pretty sure the idea of a true windowed mobile OS has come up and been rejected.
the real answer here is that almost no applications are useful when crammed into a tiny window. terminals are the exception, and there's little demand for that. what exactly do you put into that 500-pixel wide window?
ChromeOS is very fast right now because it is so lightweight.
the OS itself may be light weight, but the applications is has to support are not. you need a decent processor and memory to have a good experience with chrome, and chromebooks (almost) all have low-end specs.
my experience with a chromebook was that it started barfing when i had >10 tabs open, and was slow on any complex web site. web apps are not something i can easily tolerate when they are slow.
By that logic there should be just one model out there and that's that.
yep, that's exactly what i was getting at.
Nexus phones are supposed to be devices mainly targeted at developers as testbed, reference devices. So why would you need more than a few GB of storage capacity anyway?
are you head of marketing at google nexus? really, what'd you think? "oops! these were supposed to be developer phones but we accidentally produced one with 128GB! man, what was i thinking?!?" OTOH, maybe you aren't right in your assumptions?
gotta love it. massives profits to be had by including SD card slots and replaceable batteries. but can you believe it? HTC, Motorola, LG, Samsung? all too stupid to capitalize. if only they had you on their BoD you'd turn those companies around in a few months wouldn't you?
if there's one thing you can trust in a company is that they'll follow the money. if such phones sold better, they'd be making them.
More bullshit. The Galaxy S6 did just as you say, and the sales have been miserable. The S4 and S5 are commanding huge prices on the used market.
so samsung's poor sales on the S6 are all attributable to the lack of an SD card slot? amazing.
Only problem is, that there is no 64GB model. At lest not for the 5X. There are 16 and 32GB models and then there are 64 and 128GB Nexus 6P models.
you are so right it's a serious problem. every phone should have a model for every permutation of possible options. it's a very sound basis for product development. i hear that it's cheaper to produce many different phones at smaller numbers.
it seems completely fair that you can respond to a comment and no one is allowed to respond back. how's that attitude work for you in real life?
it's not a judgement, it's a fact. you are consuming the content. you aren't paying. but you suggest that it's okay for others to pay, just not the person blocking ads.
you do realize, ultimately someone has to view the ads for the site to get paid, right? that someone just isn't going to be you, right? basically, you are too good to view ads, but it's okay if you click bait a friend of a friend to do so.
you are what's known as a leech my friend. you avoid paying for the site, but you'll happily get other people to do so, which enables you to continue to leech content.
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What I'm seeing you say here is: "I refuse to work unless I get paid more than the CEO, but I hate brown people so it's their fault"
you're an idiot.
I mean companies are rich, right? They can afford to pay their entire workforce salaries that fall in the top 1% income bracket nationally. For Google, this would only be about $26 billion dollars. No sweat.
he was being facetious. it only takes a 20-25% bump to get people to hop jobs.
and yes, companies are rich. companies like google make billions in profits. could they afford to bump (a small subset of) salaries by 20-25%? and if they can't so be it. companies don't deserve to exist at any cost to society. we have all manner of regulations that prevent companies from doing harmful things that would otherwise increase their profits. this isn't any different.
Major economics fail here. Are you trying to tell us that if you doubled or quintupled the salary for those positions, you still would not be able to find people capable of doing them? Good qualified engineers would not happily leave their other jobs for a far better paying one at your company?
^^^ of course they would. and it wouldn't take 5x, or even 2x. most people are willing to hop for a 20-25% bump.
They're really only willing to hire senior devs who already know what they're doing.
and there you go. that's perfectly reasonable ... and it's also perfectly reasonable for those senior devs to command a high salary. should it be any other way?
We were paying competitive market rates, with excellent benefits
no you weren't. you stated yourself the proof of that: you couldn't hire anyone.
more interested in App or web development for startups
uh ... no. people are interested in a fair wage for their skill set. embedded engineers are in high demand. IMHO it's generally more complex work that requires more experience. you're going to have to pay more for that type of skill set.
basically what you are saying is that your company had a salary they were willing to pay for a embedded systems, but the salary wasn't enough to lure anyone in. so instead of paying more, you decided to import someone that would work for cheaper. you've generally hit the nail on the head here. it isn't that skilled workers don't exist in the US, it's that hiring them would cut into the precious profits of your fortune 500 company. of course, you are going to lobby for and hire cheaper workers. it's what corporations do.
Our current president endorsed dog eating and I'll bet fewer than ten people cared.
yes, and anyone with half a brain knows not to condemn someone for eating dog while you yourself are eating pigs and cows and chickens. it's called cultural relativism.
p.s., partaking in something at some point in your life doesn't mean you "endorsed" it then, or now.
As such, I suspect many H1-B parents are instinctively motivated to apply continuous pressure to the local schools
how many of them do you think attend public schools?
All the technology workers who just though they were so fucking clever by automating the shit out of everything
oh please. automation doesn't last long after the automators leave.
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You are right, when everyone is using the pipe at the same time, there will be degradation. So why not charge for internet access like electricity? Make it cheaper during non-peak hours and convert to fully usage-based billing. No flat fee for access, or at most a very small one.
right, as you said. customers are confused enough about data caps. now they have to think about when they can watch a movie and when they can't.
personally i think a fair overage charge would solve the problem.
You mean like how I use my home internet connection? Why would it have to be different just because the screen is smaller?
i don't think this is about you. it's about the carrying capacity of the current infrastructure.
If they sold me unlimited data plan without the means to provide it, why is this my fault?
it's not your fault. they were wrong to offer that. now that's being corrected, and they are publicizing the data caps that were always required in the first place. enjoy your data caps. or go pay for a business line.
Comcast will never run out of 1s and 0s to send you
you are confused about the nature of the problem. this has nothing (or little) to do with what it costs an ISP to transfer a bit. it has everything to do with carrying capacity. the pipe is only so big. if enough people stream at the same time, the pipe is full resulting in degraded service for everyone. the ISP has to spend money in the Real World to increase the pipe size.
you could make the argument that data caps should only be in effect when the pipe is full. fair enough, but that's a real confusing message to consumers.
Comcast themselves have even admitted
reference?
fast food places sell "unlimited refills". what do you think would happen if you brought in a 50 gallon drum and tried to fill it (by filling your original purchase cup and dumping it into the 50 gallon drum)?
my old condo complex has "free water", and "free hot water" (built into the price of the HOA) since it was much cheaper to have a common water meter and heater than one for each unit. what do you think would happen if i left my shower on hot 24 hours a day?
the grocery store offers "free samples". what do you think would happen if you pulled up a chair and decided to make a meal out of it?
my current employer offered "unlimited starbucks cards" to all employees as a perk. what do you think would happen if someone started eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner at starbucks? oh wait, that did happen. bye bye starbucks cards.
yes, it is related. the reason is that every limited resource that is advertised as unlimited assumes people will be reasonable. i don't feel too sorry for the person that thought they could get infinity of some resource for a fixed price. yeah, you'll get what you want though. the telcos won't advertise unlimited anymore. you're also going to get data caps. congratulations. you win.
How do they abuse an offer of 'unlimited'?
it was dumb for carriers to use this as a marketing ploy. they didn't understand the implications of what they were offering.
however, if you, as a semi-technically literate person, really thought you'd be able to transfer TBs of data on that $60 a month data plan tethering your laptop, gaming PC, and smart TV, and streaming HD movies 23 hours a day ... well ... really?
^^^^ this.
amazon gets customer satisfaction. they understand that eating $30 on rush shipping, or a hundred bucks or whatever on a mis-ship once will get them a lifetime customer that spends thousands or more a year and spreads the good word to all their friends and family.
Back in 2003 or 2004 ...
i am really curious how you could possibly think this is relevant.
Newegg has worked for me.
does newegg have garden shovels, dog food, halloween costumes, and sanitary wipes?
I rarely see things that I would buy on Amazon for more then a few dollars cheaper
i don't think anyone claims amazon is always the cheapest. it is always close to the cheapest, convenient, fast, dependable, a wide variety, and has great customer service (since 2004 anyway).
I run Linux + X11 + Fvwm on my 9" laptop. Close enough? I also ran OpenBSD + X11 + FVWM happily and productively on my sharp Zaurus SLC3100 with its teeny (4"???) screen.
if it's so awesome, why isn't the whole world doing it?
sorry, but if that was such a great and useful setup, we'd see more windowed mobile OSes. and no, "people just consume what apple force feeds them" isn't a great answer. apple will produce whatever people will consume, and i'm pretty sure the idea of a true windowed mobile OS has come up and been rejected.
the real answer here is that almost no applications are useful when crammed into a tiny window. terminals are the exception, and there's little demand for that. what exactly do you put into that 500-pixel wide window?
Chromebook is locked down and far more secure that Android. Want to do online banking, a chromebook would be a far better idea than a tablet or a PC.
yeah, there's never been an exploit in a browser. oh wait a sec ...
ChromeOS is very fast right now because it is so lightweight.
the OS itself may be light weight, but the applications is has to support are not. you need a decent processor and memory to have a good experience with chrome, and chromebooks (almost) all have low-end specs.
my experience with a chromebook was that it started barfing when i had >10 tabs open, and was slow on any complex web site. web apps are not something i can easily tolerate when they are slow.
Sadly, most people don't have any concerns about privacy and don't realise how they can be harmed and exploited through their data.
i dunno, i've been using the internet since it's inception and i've never been harmed. what exactly are you talking about?
If you aren't paying for a service, you aren't the customer. You're the product being sold.
queue the guy that thinks he's dropping some profound knowledge on the unenlightened masses. everyone knows that. we know it, and we're okay with it.
By that logic there should be just one model out there and that's that.
yep, that's exactly what i was getting at.
Nexus phones are supposed to be devices mainly targeted at developers as testbed, reference devices. So why would you need more than a few GB of storage capacity anyway?
are you head of marketing at google nexus? really, what'd you think? "oops! these were supposed to be developer phones but we accidentally produced one with 128GB! man, what was i thinking?!?" OTOH, maybe you aren't right in your assumptions?
gotta love it. massives profits to be had by including SD card slots and replaceable batteries. but can you believe it? HTC, Motorola, LG, Samsung? all too stupid to capitalize. if only they had you on their BoD you'd turn those companies around in a few months wouldn't you?
if there's one thing you can trust in a company is that they'll follow the money. if such phones sold better, they'd be making them.
More bullshit. The Galaxy S6 did just as you say, and the sales have been miserable. The S4 and S5 are commanding huge prices on the used market.
so samsung's poor sales on the S6 are all attributable to the lack of an SD card slot? amazing.
Only problem is, that there is no 64GB model. At lest not for the 5X. There are 16 and 32GB models and then there are 64 and 128GB Nexus 6P models.
you are so right it's a serious problem. every phone should have a model for every permutation of possible options. it's a very sound basis for product development. i hear that it's cheaper to produce many different phones at smaller numbers.
it seems completely fair that you can respond to a comment and no one is allowed to respond back. how's that attitude work for you in real life?
it's not a judgement, it's a fact. you are consuming the content. you aren't paying. but you suggest that it's okay for others to pay, just not the person blocking ads.
you do realize, ultimately someone has to view the ads for the site to get paid, right? that someone just isn't going to be you, right? basically, you are too good to view ads, but it's okay if you click bait a friend of a friend to do so.
you are what's known as a leech my friend. you avoid paying for the site, but you'll happily get other people to do so, which enables you to continue to leech content.