you hear a lot of rumours on the street that they are going to buy us out.
he heard someone say "1BM is going ot 0wn SC0 before this is over."
It's more likely that the rumours say "IBM are going to Bligh TSG out", in other words put them in a rowboat and set them adrift many thousands of miles from food, shelter or civilisation.
Those victimized by Statin and his ilk suffered under the yolk of oppression imposed by a militarisitic police state.
The pie that Bill Gates caught with his face had egg in the recipe. Does that count as "the yolk of oppression"? (-:
For the linguisticly-impaired: yolk == yellow part of egg, yoke == load-bearing collar, joke == above paragraph, yokel == naive local ("a rustic; bumpkin").
Alternatively, his neighbours could have banded together and outlawed the use of motors in the shire between 10PM Sat and 7AM Sun, so encouraging him to get enough sleep that an 07:00 haircut for the neighbours' yards wasn't an issue. (-:
Do you even know what all of the enforceable laws on you that are applicable in just your city?
The Shire of Kalamunda (satellite city in Perth, Western Australia) has (or had) a bizarre law on its books that specified a fine for operating a two or four stroke motor between midnight and midnight on Sundays. Why so specific? Why only Sundays?
It turns out that this particular law is due to a single councilor who lived in sunny Bickley, in Kalamunda's East Ward. Said Councillor was in the habit of going out and "raging" (nightclubbing, partying etc) every Saturday night, coming home at silly- o'clock on Saturday morning (or sometimes holding the party at his house and keeping his neighbours up to silly o'clock), and expecting to sleep in until the sun was over the crow's-nest.
The sand in this particular vaseline was his many Seventh-day Adventist neighbours, who after enjoying a refreshingly restful Sabbath day between sunset Friday and sunset Saturday would get up early on Sunday morning, full of beans, vim vigour and vitality, and start doing stuff. Like mowing their lawns not before 07:00 as per the excessive noise laws.
Three or more neighbours running two-stroke mowers was not exactly what Mr I-went-to-bed-at-04:23 wanted to hear at 07:00, so he acted. He went out and talked to his neighbours about it - not. Instead, he talked the Shire into enacting a "Blue Law" prohibiting the operation of two-stroke motors throughout the Shire between midnight and midnight on Sundays.
Not to be outdone in the lets-resolve-this stakes, and of course turning their collective backs on 1Thessalonians5:14-15, the dawn chorus in Bickley the following Sunday included a four-stroke-mowers section from all of his neighbours. Taking care not to abuse his position as Councillor, Mr I-went-to-bed-at-04:23 then had the law amended to include four-stroke motors.
The consequences included that as he was driving his car home at 04:07 on Sunday morning, he broke his own law. Any propellor-driven aircraft flying over the Shire were in violation, and so on. I don't think he realised how lucky he was that turbine-driven mowers are still hard to buy. (-:
I'm hearking back to Miguel's oft-quoted comment about users replacing their GNOME desktops with KDE, and parallelling that with The Hurd vs Linux.
Is GNOME taking forever to catch KDE in the huge-invasive-window-manager arena for the same reasons that The Hurd is taking forever to catch Linux in the one-size-fits-all kernel arena?
9/6/03 - ninth of June or 6th of September? 20030609 - any questions? The ordering of Yankee dates is just bizarre. Where people get frightened by eight-digit numbers, I write 09 Jun 2003.
AFAICT, the Canopy Group are just suers, they've never lifted a productive hand in their lives. Canopy are the puppeteers behind The SCO Group (TSG). TSG bought Tarantella nee the Santa Cruz Operation AKA SCO. SCO actually did useful development work, and tended to defend themselves in court rather than prey on others.
In short, the personality of TSG is alien to the personality of SCO, as well as them being two different business entities, and the two should be kept distinct. Muddling them together only aids TSG's cold-bloodedly sown legal confusion.
This Western Australian company does a mini-ITX in what I call a 2/4RU case. The box is 2RU high and you can fit four of them together in a layer, so four units in a 2RU. I'm setting up Unit #3 to go into a datacentre today, but Motium have been too busy filling orders to put the box up on their site. I'll publish a review sometime in the next few days and offer it to SlashDot.
It includes LAN, serial, 2xUSB, parallel, 2xPS2, sound, VGA (Savage4) and composite video out. There are some other wonderful options coming which I can't yet tell you about, but amongst other things it's possible to make them completely fanless if you're happy with 533MHz and can guarantee a low environmental temperature - or a single maglev fan and any temperature you yourself can stand.
The first-run unit I'll review has Flash instead of a HDD and is also capable of taking a PSU to which you can attach a battery and treat it as a built-in UPS (or potentially run it from batteries). There is a ruggedised version of the PSU which will cope with automotive voltages (and fluctuations) but more work is needed to cope with the extreme vibration inherent in outback roads (it kills show-pony four-wheel drives, you can imagine what it would do to a computer).
OK, add on USD$413 for software (do Elements require PhotoShop proper as well?), call it $1900 total in round numbers. What's XP Home and Office XP worth in the land of the Stars and Stripes? Guessing roughly $150 and $500 respectively, that quietly eliminates an MS-Windows PC from the running - although you could sub OpenOffice and then it doesn't look so bad.
they do, I think, run under OS X
Almost all do, modulo most graphic apps requiring an X server. With the advent of free Qt/Mac I imagine that all of the KDE utilities could be recompiled to run native. If Apple Carbonise KMail as well, Many of the lower-level libraries (like SDL) have a Mac version as well.
What Linux society doesn't have doesn't have nearly as much of as Mac land is graphic artists and the like. The rising spread of cross-platform libraries mean that more of this resource is being leaked back into Linux.
iiNet used to be great, then the other Michael left, they went on a buying spree (Wantree, Omen, Networx, dozens of other smallish ISPs) and their tech support fell in a hole (due, I suspect to the high turnover rate of competent technicians, he says, waving to Brett, a prime example).
If you want a large ISP in WA, I recommend WestNet. They're a bit too big to still be really caring, but their reliability is a notch above iiNet's.
If you want an excellent quality smaller ISP in WA, choose ArachNet. They also have excellent colocation terms, and this bloke can sell you a dandy little rack box to colocate with (review coming soon). I use ArachNet myself. There are others.
If you want reliable DSL in Oz and damn the cost, try Request or Optus (nice picture). Everyone else has to go through Telstra to get their DSL (and these two will also if they have no DSLAM in the exchange), which costs you a big reliability hit.
Telstra account for your data as the sum of both directions. Most Oz ISPs will bill you for the max of in and out, or just bill you for in, but no, not Telstra. As a 'phone company, they're not too bad (their service actually works). As a "competitive" ISP, they suck.
Before they lost a lot of their expertise, iiNet ran a single Pentium 200 (on 7 SCSI drives through 5 controllers) with Squid as their main web proxy. They built a replacement but didn't swap it out for months because it hadn't stopped. Ever. They finally swapped it when another outage temporarily killed off most of their dialup lines. It peaked at about 700 hits per second averaged over a minute with bursts to about 1000 hits per second. I have no real idea how many simultaneous users that represents, but am guessing at 10-15,000.
And having worked for an ISP, I'd have to agree that about half (in bytes) of the web traffic there was porn. Hey users! Get a life!
Unlike SCO who just cries fowl when they realize that they are not going to make it
Well, they seem to be playing "chicken" with IBM. Listen for the squark and thump, after which TSG (distinct from Tarantella nee SCO) will be a leaner organisation - about a millimeter thick, actually.
I'd like to grow a couple of extra arms so I can wave even more fingers, but remember to wave them at The SCO Group (TSG), not the Santa Cruz Operation (SCO), now Tarantella.
SCO did nothing like threaten to "blow up" the GPL, TSG is a part of The Canopy Group who have a long history of suing people. Their official job description should be "suer", which is funnier said than read. TSG are referring to themselves as "SCO" to add to the confusion surrounding their claims.
If we refer to them exclusively as TSG, this helps people to ask questions and make the connection: TSG did not write any code, they only bought a company (Tarantella, nee SCO) which did actually write code, but more importantly which had acquired some rights from Novell.
In contrast to SCO, TSG are simply and only suers, they have never lifted a finger to create anything useful.
Wave as many fingers, backsides, axes, whatever as you like, just so long as TSG cop the blame, and not the original SCO.
Formatting of the words is equally important, and I am not trying to be overly critical here, but if you had used a few <br> tags your post would have been much easier to read.
ISDHO (In SlashDot's Humble Opinion), <br> approximately equals <p> anyway. If you'd prefixed your <blockquote>s with <p>s, your post would have been much easier to read. (-:
Wish I could afford to move there. Too many idiots here.
There's some beaut scenery. Perth is a nice city but not a patch on some of the amazing stuff in the outback. But you'll find idiots everywhere. The ones in the country tend to be a more interesting quality of idiot, because if they were ordinary boring idiots, they'd have moved back to Perth (or Sydeny or Melbourne) long ago. (-:
Not as easily or seamlessly as on a USD$1500 Mac, to be sure, but the tools are there to do all of the above and can (have, in the case of my sister-in-law) been used by non-technical people to do just those things. She doesn't have a DV camera, but others do.
Cinelarra and friends aren't as easy to use as iMovie, but Mandrake does give you access to $zero film tools like CinePaint (many of which, it must be said, will also run under OS X with an X server). How much did you spend on software on top of your USD$1499?
BTW, given a choice between OS X in stable Apple hardware or MS-Windows on commodity PC hardware for anything like comparable pricing, I would be hard pressed to not choose the Mac. But given a choice between a good Mac at AUD$3k or a good PC running Linux at AUD$2k, I'd need some justification for that extra AUD$1k.
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It's more likely that the rumours say "IBM are going to Bligh TSG out", in other words put them in a rowboat and set them adrift many thousands of miles from food, shelter or civilisation.
The pie that Bill Gates caught with his face had egg in the recipe. Does that count as "the yolk of oppression"? (-:
For the linguisticly-impaired: yolk == yellow part of egg, yoke == load-bearing collar, joke == above paragraph, yokel == naive local ("a rustic; bumpkin").
Are we far enough off topic yet? (-:
The Shire of Kalamunda (satellite city in Perth, Western Australia) has (or had) a bizarre law on its books that specified a fine for operating a two or four stroke motor between midnight and midnight on Sundays. Why so specific? Why only Sundays?
It turns out that this particular law is due to a single councilor who lived in sunny Bickley, in Kalamunda's East Ward. Said Councillor was in the habit of going out and "raging" (nightclubbing, partying etc) every Saturday night, coming home at silly- o'clock on Saturday morning (or sometimes holding the party at his house and keeping his neighbours up to silly o'clock), and expecting to sleep in until the sun was over the crow's-nest.
The sand in this particular vaseline was his many Seventh-day Adventist neighbours, who after enjoying a refreshingly restful Sabbath day between sunset Friday and sunset Saturday would get up early on Sunday morning, full of beans, vim vigour and vitality, and start doing stuff. Like mowing their lawns not before 07:00 as per the excessive noise laws.
Three or more neighbours running two-stroke mowers was not exactly what Mr I-went-to-bed-at-04:23 wanted to hear at 07:00, so he acted. He went out and talked to his neighbours about it - not. Instead, he talked the Shire into enacting a "Blue Law" prohibiting the operation of two-stroke motors throughout the Shire between midnight and midnight on Sundays.
Not to be outdone in the lets-resolve-this stakes, and of course turning their collective backs on 1Thessalonians5:14-15, the dawn chorus in Bickley the following Sunday included a four-stroke-mowers section from all of his neighbours. Taking care not to abuse his position as Councillor, Mr I-went-to-bed-at-04:23 then had the law amended to include four-stroke motors.
The consequences included that as he was driving his car home at 04:07 on Sunday morning, he broke his own law. Any propellor-driven aircraft flying over the Shire were in violation, and so on. I don't think he realised how lucky he was that turbine-driven mowers are still hard to buy. (-:
There would be a certain satisfying irony in the counter-silliness of it.
I wonder how much in damages he could get based on the potential for getting his turds dented every time the soap fell?
So I was close, but no banana. Thanks for the clarification!
...had a hand in restarting PLUG before he left (that website served from an XboX). D'you know if he's a member of SLUG or anything over there?
(-:
And your website probably explains why Flow is a SF download mirror. Now all we need is free connectivity between state IXes.
I'm hearking back to Miguel's oft-quoted comment about users replacing their GNOME desktops with KDE, and parallelling that with The Hurd vs Linux.
Is GNOME taking forever to catch KDE in the huge-invasive-window-manager arena for the same reasons that The Hurd is taking forever to catch Linux in the one-size-fits-all kernel arena?
9/6/03 - ninth of June or 6th of September? 20030609 - any questions? The ordering of Yankee dates is just bizarre. Where people get frightened by eight-digit numbers, I write 09 Jun 2003.
In short, the personality of TSG is alien to the personality of SCO, as well as them being two different business entities, and the two should be kept distinct. Muddling them together only aids TSG's cold-bloodedly sown legal confusion.
It includes LAN, serial, 2xUSB, parallel, 2xPS2, sound, VGA (Savage4) and composite video out. There are some other wonderful options coming which I can't yet tell you about, but amongst other things it's possible to make them completely fanless if you're happy with 533MHz and can guarantee a low environmental temperature - or a single maglev fan and any temperature you yourself can stand.
The first-run unit I'll review has Flash instead of a HDD and is also capable of taking a PSU to which you can attach a battery and treat it as a built-in UPS (or potentially run it from batteries). There is a ruggedised version of the PSU which will cope with automotive voltages (and fluctuations) but more work is needed to cope with the extreme vibration inherent in outback roads (it kills show-pony four-wheel drives, you can imagine what it would do to a computer).
/me waves to Alan and Telsa.
OK, add on USD$413 for software (do Elements require PhotoShop proper as well?), call it $1900 total in round numbers. What's XP Home and Office XP worth in the land of the Stars and Stripes? Guessing roughly $150 and $500 respectively, that quietly eliminates an MS-Windows PC from the running - although you could sub OpenOffice and then it doesn't look so bad.
Almost all do, modulo most graphic apps requiring an X server. With the advent of free Qt/Mac I imagine that all of the KDE utilities could be recompiled to run native. If Apple Carbonise KMail as well, Many of the lower-level libraries (like SDL) have a Mac version as well.
What Linux society doesn't have doesn't have nearly as much of as Mac land is graphic artists and the like. The rising spread of cross-platform libraries mean that more of this resource is being leaked back into Linux.
I know of Request (who actually use RUCC for all of their ISP-ish stuff) and Optus using their own DSLAMs etc, even their own copper.
If you want a large ISP in WA, I recommend WestNet. They're a bit too big to still be really caring, but their reliability is a notch above iiNet's.
If you want an excellent quality smaller ISP in WA, choose ArachNet. They also have excellent colocation terms, and this bloke can sell you a dandy little rack box to colocate with (review coming soon). I use ArachNet myself. There are others.
If you want reliable DSL in Oz and damn the cost, try Request or Optus (nice picture). Everyone else has to go through Telstra to get their DSL (and these two will also if they have no DSLAM in the exchange), which costs you a big reliability hit.
Telstra account for your data as the sum of both directions. Most Oz ISPs will bill you for the max of in and out, or just bill you for in, but no, not Telstra. As a 'phone company, they're not too bad (their service actually works). As a "competitive" ISP, they suck.
Apparently this will do it.
And having worked for an ISP, I'd have to agree that about half (in bytes) of the web traffic there was porn. Hey users! Get a life!
I'll supply the duck.
Yes, you do. Haven't you been told yet? (-:
Well, they seem to be playing "chicken" with IBM. Listen for the squark and thump, after which TSG (distinct from Tarantella nee SCO) will be a leaner organisation - about a millimeter thick, actually.
Why not contribute extension code to that?
I'd like to grow a couple of extra arms so I can wave even more fingers, but remember to wave them at The SCO Group (TSG), not the Santa Cruz Operation (SCO), now Tarantella.
SCO did nothing like threaten to "blow up" the GPL, TSG is a part of The Canopy Group who have a long history of suing people. Their official job description should be "suer", which is funnier said than read. TSG are referring to themselves as "SCO" to add to the confusion surrounding their claims.
If we refer to them exclusively as TSG, this helps people to ask questions and make the connection: TSG did not write any code, they only bought a company (Tarantella, nee SCO) which did actually write code, but more importantly which had acquired some rights from Novell.
In contrast to SCO, TSG are simply and only suers, they have never lifted a finger to create anything useful.
Wave as many fingers, backsides, axes, whatever as you like, just so long as TSG cop the blame, and not the original SCO.
ISDHO (In SlashDot's Humble Opinion), <br> approximately equals <p> anyway. If you'd prefixed your <blockquote>s with <p>s, your post would have been much easier to read. (-:
There's some beaut scenery. Perth is a nice city but not a patch on some of the amazing stuff in the outback. But you'll find idiots everywhere. The ones in the country tend to be a more interesting quality of idiot, because if they were ordinary boring idiots, they'd have moved back to Perth (or Sydeny or Melbourne) long ago. (-:
Not as easily or seamlessly as on a USD$1500 Mac, to be sure, but the tools are there to do all of the above and can (have, in the case of my sister-in-law) been used by non-technical people to do just those things. She doesn't have a DV camera, but others do.
Cinelarra and friends aren't as easy to use as iMovie, but Mandrake does give you access to $zero film tools like CinePaint (many of which, it must be said, will also run under OS X with an X server). How much did you spend on software on top of your USD$1499?
BTW, given a choice between OS X in stable Apple hardware or MS-Windows on commodity PC hardware for anything like comparable pricing, I would be hard pressed to not choose the Mac. But given a choice between a good Mac at AUD$3k or a good PC running Linux at AUD$2k, I'd need some justification for that extra AUD$1k.