sounds like to me microsoft is going to be a media company with their media center crap os as the focal point while they make their business crap os for businesses and probably all the home user will be able to get is the crap media center os.
no thanks - I already got my dvr with my pc and linux - works just fine thank you - now quit fucking with god dam shows with the broadcast flag crap -
gee sounds like watching tv is going to be so much fun in the future - can't wait
microsoft will do the same thing it did to netscape.
and george w will just sit back and count his microsoft stocks go up.
they will embrace extend and lockin people to their crap - doesn't matter if it is better - probably won't be -
I hope they fall on their face with longhorn - I know I will never use any of their products again.
When will the craziness stop.
They should be held liable for something - like someone would make a false police report - to me it is just like that - a false report.
these guys are jokers and shouldn't be allowed to hide behind the stupid DMCA -
bs - he would of had to do if it was windows mac or anything else - these people he helped are going to be able to install windows either. Why do you think it comes installed - so the average joe doesn't have to do anything except just work with and get it infected with spyware and viruses.
Ubuntu is ready for the desktop - it is just a matter of getting there like windows does - preinstalled.
btw I had to help many a friend upgrade windows from 95 to 98 to whatever but now with ubuntu I won't have to - I can walk them through it over the phone or just send them and email on how to do it. no more install cds for me. but that just may be me.
no single sign on?
okay - I guess NDS doesn't count? along with openldap.
this just goes to show how much this guys knows.
I would take a linux server any day over his crappy os.
I wish Microsoft would just shut up and start producing something that is credible - the only thing their good at is spreading FUD.
NDS blows away anything they have and always have and is more rubust and stable and is CROSSPLATFORM (you know - can work on other os's besides your own - just wanted to spell that out for him because I know that is a foreign word to them). The same goes with openldap - and you know what I can have both exist on the network because NDS is standards compliant.
Not like the crap he and microsoft produces. Which locks their cusotmers in and produces nothing but a rats nest of code.
Okay thats all - this guy is nothing but fud.
I am sure it will be open standards and it will run with linux.
Just because I know how much SBC and Microsoft embrace linux.
I'm not sure I really want this - I am already paying for cable, dsl, telephone, and long distance.
I am already thinking of dumping cable cause TV basically sucks these days.
Also if it is another box that I have to do maintenance on the microsoft way then forget it.
I hope this is just for paying for the fiber and signal coming and then I can do what want with it from there. But probably not - microsoft will somehow try to lock me into one of their crappy products just to watch tv.
I like ubuntu - I tried it and now I put on all my computers -
I am also going to put on my daughters Imac when I get time.
To me it has the best hardware detection out there. And I only have to install it once - Put it on my laptop and it recognized everything perfectly - amazing!
And I love apt-get. And I only have to install it once.
lets hope its the end of ie only sites.
uhh lets make a web site but only make it for one browser. it is much better than the client/server software we currently use.
everything is written to IE proprietary standards.
reason: it is cost effective to only support one browser.
answer: then write to a browser that doesn't lock you in.
reason: well desktop support said IE is the desktop standard.
answer: well can desktop support say what the desktop will be in 10 years - no - and if it isn't we will have to spend a lot more money to move everything over to open standards - or just pay ransom to microsoft - "our desktop standard"
anybody who writes IE only sites whether internal or external should just get out of the business or be fired - no questions asked.
see we don't have to do anything - eventually people will just get sick of forking out money for viruses and spyware and then they will either use linux or mac.
eventually microsoft will implode. you can only get so big.
anybody who outsources to foreign countries that pay way below the proper wage and gets burned by it deserves it.
you were wanting to something for nothing but got nothing for nothing and deserve it.
Couldn't agree more - had the same thing happen to me -
anybody who writes a site for one browser should be fired on the spot - no questions asked.
IE is the biggest piece of crap - I would use Netscape 4.8 before I would use IE ever again.
www.weightwatchers.com is one such site - it is nothing but a piece of crap site - it is because of these non-standard piece of crap sites that IE is still around.
if people do not want to code to open standards then don't code at all -
he doesn't need any help - he seems to have figured everything out himself - System V is great and "enterprise ready" and linux is nothing but a toy.
he is a troll just fishing for SCO I bet -
last thing I would do is help this joker -
even though this is old news - this stuff needs to get to the common people who use this crap everyday.
activex is a joke and should be outlawed.
but billy and steve are laughing all the way to the bank and the uninformed let them get away with it.
whoever writes a website for one browser whether its an internal or external site should fired on the spot.
but that is just my opinion.
"Much spyware arrives bundled with programs such as screensavers and file-sharing software."
my isp gives me windows software and I just pitch it - it doesn't support linux and I won't put it on my mac - I have never had a spyware problem.
I use linux and mac and never had a problem - I used mozilla / firefox / thunberbird / and evolution and never had a problem.
get rid of windows and using linux will solve your problems - also using firebird and stop using internet explorer will help immensely.
windows has taught a log of people bad habits and now they are paying for it.
its also all this trash software that people buy for 10 dollars at their local discount store too - quit installing that shit and install open source instead. this will solve all your problems.
I disagree - linux does have a mix of innovative and old things just redone.
also I would use linux and mission critical in the same sentence all the time. windows isn't mission critical - its a joke - linux is much more stable and is set for mission critical tasks. windows is not.
I couldn't agree with you more. we are becoming more of the mindset - this is how the computer does it for you - than what can I make the computer do.
bought my daughter a second hand imac but she hardly uses it because she would rather put her ideas and drawings on paper. And I say good for her - let the ideas flow - who care if it is on the computer on the driveway with chalk or just paper - just start creating and use that brainpower.
I refuse to let her use a windows machine. To me they just don't make sense - hit start to logout for example. I have no windows machine in my life and I love it - my work bought one (because that is the standard) that is basically a paperweight on my desk because I don't use it - but our desktop support sure uses it a lot - like doing updates - virus scans etc. - it gets used more for that than actual work - I use my mac and linux machines to do actual work.
don't understand how letting people run their os with/without support was hurting them.
I was using redhat 9 and paid the 60 dollars for a year to get the updates. but when the price of that tripled - well that just priced me out.
I switched to debian/ubuntu - it is just as stable if not more and gives me a lot more software.
I always said redhat had the best hardware detection but ubuntu has caught up fast and is just as good in my book. yes the installer isn't pretty and graphical but I only have to do it once and it is very stable and it works.
probably wouldn't of switched if redhat didn't triple their prices. but I still like them and wish them well - I really want to see them do great along with debian and all the other distros. I think there is room for them all because they can interoperate together because they all use open standards i.e cups.
This says a lot - a lot of microsofts own products can say that. I just hope people realize this and stop the desktop craziness that microsoft has us in.
who cares what microsoft wants or requires. I am sick of them dictating standards and requirements -
Windows is not even part of my work - I use linux, macs, BSD, - I don't even care what they want or require.
But I am sure they will force the vendors to their ways regardless of what the consumer wants and especially regardless of what macintosh, linux, and bsd want or need.
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sounds like to me microsoft is going to be a media company with their media center crap os as the focal point while they make their business crap os for businesses and probably all the home user will be able to get is the crap media center os. no thanks - I already got my dvr with my pc and linux - works just fine thank you - now quit fucking with god dam shows with the broadcast flag crap - gee sounds like watching tv is going to be so much fun in the future - can't wait
microsoft will do the same thing it did to netscape. and george w will just sit back and count his microsoft stocks go up. they will embrace extend and lockin people to their crap - doesn't matter if it is better - probably won't be - I hope they fall on their face with longhorn - I know I will never use any of their products again.
When will the craziness stop. They should be held liable for something - like someone would make a false police report - to me it is just like that - a false report. these guys are jokers and shouldn't be allowed to hide behind the stupid DMCA -
bs - he would of had to do if it was windows mac or anything else - these people he helped are going to be able to install windows either. Why do you think it comes installed - so the average joe doesn't have to do anything except just work with and get it infected with spyware and viruses. Ubuntu is ready for the desktop - it is just a matter of getting there like windows does - preinstalled. btw I had to help many a friend upgrade windows from 95 to 98 to whatever but now with ubuntu I won't have to - I can walk them through it over the phone or just send them and email on how to do it. no more install cds for me. but that just may be me.
okay I have patented microsoft bashing on slashdot so anybody that bashes microsoft has to pay me. buaaaaagghhhhhhh!!!
no single sign on? okay - I guess NDS doesn't count? along with openldap. this just goes to show how much this guys knows. I would take a linux server any day over his crappy os. I wish Microsoft would just shut up and start producing something that is credible - the only thing their good at is spreading FUD. NDS blows away anything they have and always have and is more rubust and stable and is CROSSPLATFORM (you know - can work on other os's besides your own - just wanted to spell that out for him because I know that is a foreign word to them). The same goes with openldap - and you know what I can have both exist on the network because NDS is standards compliant. Not like the crap he and microsoft produces. Which locks their cusotmers in and produces nothing but a rats nest of code. Okay thats all - this guy is nothing but fud.
Microsoft will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever open any product they make. Everything else will be fud - i.e. this story.
I am sure it will be open standards and it will run with linux. Just because I know how much SBC and Microsoft embrace linux. I'm not sure I really want this - I am already paying for cable, dsl, telephone, and long distance. I am already thinking of dumping cable cause TV basically sucks these days. Also if it is another box that I have to do maintenance on the microsoft way then forget it. I hope this is just for paying for the fiber and signal coming and then I can do what want with it from there. But probably not - microsoft will somehow try to lock me into one of their crappy products just to watch tv.
I like ubuntu - I tried it and now I put on all my computers - I am also going to put on my daughters Imac when I get time. To me it has the best hardware detection out there. And I only have to install it once - Put it on my laptop and it recognized everything perfectly - amazing! And I love apt-get. And I only have to install it once.
lets hope its the end of ie only sites. uhh lets make a web site but only make it for one browser. it is much better than the client/server software we currently use.
everything is written to IE proprietary standards. reason: it is cost effective to only support one browser. answer: then write to a browser that doesn't lock you in. reason: well desktop support said IE is the desktop standard. answer: well can desktop support say what the desktop will be in 10 years - no - and if it isn't we will have to spend a lot more money to move everything over to open standards - or just pay ransom to microsoft - "our desktop standard" anybody who writes IE only sites whether internal or external should just get out of the business or be fired - no questions asked.
see we don't have to do anything - eventually people will just get sick of forking out money for viruses and spyware and then they will either use linux or mac. eventually microsoft will implode. you can only get so big.
anybody who outsources to foreign countries that pay way below the proper wage and gets burned by it deserves it. you were wanting to something for nothing but got nothing for nothing and deserve it.
Couldn't agree more - had the same thing happen to me - anybody who writes a site for one browser should be fired on the spot - no questions asked. IE is the biggest piece of crap - I would use Netscape 4.8 before I would use IE ever again. www.weightwatchers.com is one such site - it is nothing but a piece of crap site - it is because of these non-standard piece of crap sites that IE is still around. if people do not want to code to open standards then don't code at all -
give me all your money to read your free email wuaaaggghhhh! wuaghhhhhh! wuagghhhhh!
he doesn't need any help - he seems to have figured everything out himself - System V is great and "enterprise ready" and linux is nothing but a toy. he is a troll just fishing for SCO I bet - last thing I would do is help this joker -
this is great news - this will help the migrations later when users finally get sick of paying microsoft for viruses and spyware.
even though this is old news - this stuff needs to get to the common people who use this crap everyday. activex is a joke and should be outlawed. but billy and steve are laughing all the way to the bank and the uninformed let them get away with it. whoever writes a website for one browser whether its an internal or external site should fired on the spot. but that is just my opinion.
"Much spyware arrives bundled with programs such as screensavers and file-sharing software." my isp gives me windows software and I just pitch it - it doesn't support linux and I won't put it on my mac - I have never had a spyware problem. I use linux and mac and never had a problem - I used mozilla / firefox / thunberbird / and evolution and never had a problem. get rid of windows and using linux will solve your problems - also using firebird and stop using internet explorer will help immensely. windows has taught a log of people bad habits and now they are paying for it. its also all this trash software that people buy for 10 dollars at their local discount store too - quit installing that shit and install open source instead. this will solve all your problems.
sure - but I am easy to please
okay just a few off the top of my head would be production server - apt-get production desktop - gdesklets/karamba gweather/kweather applets
I disagree - linux does have a mix of innovative and old things just redone. also I would use linux and mission critical in the same sentence all the time. windows isn't mission critical - its a joke - linux is much more stable and is set for mission critical tasks. windows is not.
I couldn't agree with you more. we are becoming more of the mindset - this is how the computer does it for you - than what can I make the computer do. bought my daughter a second hand imac but she hardly uses it because she would rather put her ideas and drawings on paper. And I say good for her - let the ideas flow - who care if it is on the computer on the driveway with chalk or just paper - just start creating and use that brainpower. I refuse to let her use a windows machine. To me they just don't make sense - hit start to logout for example. I have no windows machine in my life and I love it - my work bought one (because that is the standard) that is basically a paperweight on my desk because I don't use it - but our desktop support sure uses it a lot - like doing updates - virus scans etc. - it gets used more for that than actual work - I use my mac and linux machines to do actual work.
don't understand how letting people run their os with/without support was hurting them. I was using redhat 9 and paid the 60 dollars for a year to get the updates. but when the price of that tripled - well that just priced me out. I switched to debian/ubuntu - it is just as stable if not more and gives me a lot more software. I always said redhat had the best hardware detection but ubuntu has caught up fast and is just as good in my book. yes the installer isn't pretty and graphical but I only have to do it once and it is very stable and it works. probably wouldn't of switched if redhat didn't triple their prices. but I still like them and wish them well - I really want to see them do great along with debian and all the other distros. I think there is room for them all because they can interoperate together because they all use open standards i.e cups. This says a lot - a lot of microsofts own products can say that. I just hope people realize this and stop the desktop craziness that microsoft has us in.
who cares what microsoft wants or requires. I am sick of them dictating standards and requirements - Windows is not even part of my work - I use linux, macs, BSD, - I don't even care what they want or require. But I am sure they will force the vendors to their ways regardless of what the consumer wants and especially regardless of what macintosh, linux, and bsd want or need.