The meme that the public does not have access to this stuff is just wrong.
Tell that to anyone living in South Dakota.
Many universities offer library cards to the public; for example my employer paid for my Princeton University Library card for about 10 years.
You seem confused here, the previous poster was talking about how only the privileged have access to the information, your citing your employer paying for your access reinforces his point.
And maintaining a collection like that is clearly not free.
As someone with a bunch of research librarians in his family I can assure you that maintaining a dead-tree collection is orders of magnitude more expensive than a digital collection. Especially of tax-payer funded works. If we can afford to pay for the creation of the works, we can afford to pay for the digital maintenance and distribution of those same works.
The suggestion that he did not have access to an elite education is rediculous under the circumstances.
Yes, it would be ridiculous, that's why no one is making it.
The point of bring up this policy is that Swartz was not working for the benefit of Stanford alumni. He was working to benefit EVERYONE, including people who can't even afford community college.
Over the years I've noticed this is a pretty common theme on Slashdot - You could post a story about some backwater, torture-filled nation lead by some despotic religious zealot and 26 replies will immediately say "Yeah, but the USA is TEN TIMES WORSE!"
Over the years I've noticed this is a pretty common theme on Slashdot - people point out problems in other countries, others draw parallels to the US and some pseudo-patriot type comes along and exaggerates those parallels in order to complain about the people pointing them out.
The problem with your complaining is that while Americans have very little influence over other what other governments do in other countries, here at least we claim to have the democratic process in order to fix our own problems. But you can't fix what you don't know about. "My country, right or wrong. If right to be kept right, if wrong to be set right."
Actually, the theory of evolution doesn't fly you anywhere. In fact, I'm willing to place hard money on a substantial amount of the Apollo project not believing in evolution.
I've spent time as a consultant for large and mid-sized companies (most of them publicly traded) and see pretty much the opposite of what you are describing.
I agree, I've never heard of "clutch and hold" and a google search only turns up automotive references for at least the first three pages of hits. While the opposite - "spend it or lose it" has been SOP for more decades than I've even been alive. FWIW, all of the first three pages of google's hits are variations on the theme of spending it now in order to justify future/continued budget allocations.
You really think the Casinos would not put an end to pickpockets on their turf? They don't like competition from amateurs.
They don't do a thing unless you make a big stink and the thieves are stupid enough to get caught with the items on them. There are a bunch of threads on the city-data.com las vegas boards about how casino security is there only to stop people from stealing from the casino and how various people had stuff stolen with minimal response. Like casino security wouldn't even look at their own video footage.
âoeTheir paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our actual dystopic present. We canâ(TM)t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually in reality happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of imaginary Hitler.â - Jon Stewart
"Look, as with most bits we do, whether of the fully fleshed out or more drive-by variety, there are always various counterarguments and nuances of language and thought that can be cited as evidence of this show's inherent unfairness or ignorance." - Jon Stewart
If anything good comes of this situation it would be nice if Swartz were to become the Mohamed Bouazizi of prosecutorial reform in the US. Unlikely, but one can hope.
The libs will want to institute more government regulations over theoretical earthquake risks and so forth, interfering with the efforts of businessmen to create wealth and jobs.
Problems with things like this and fracking have an easy fix - just require the management of all involved companies to live right on the site of project. If they are willing to eat their own dogfood then you know it's safe.
Unsold copies get shipped back and destroyed (which costs money).
That may be true for hardcovers, I don't really know. But for softcovers the practice has been to rip the front cover off and send it back, while letting the retailer dump them in the trash. Same thing with magazines. I learned how it all worked as a young teenager when I discovered that once a month, the convenience store near my school bus-stop would load up the trash-bin out back with an entire month's worth of porn magazines, all missing the front covers. What they couldn't legally sell to me, I could now dumpster-dive for free.
You obviously didn't check the summaries from the last 24hrs then. There are MANY examples of series of two or less where there is a comma before the 'and'.
Yet you decided to complain about the one where the oxford comma was used correctly. Next time go post your grammar complaint as a response to the story that you are actually complaining about.
In the West there's the illusion of choice. Makes people so much more accepting of unelected power-brokers.
There is a pretty strong argument that democracy has nothing to do with human rights and everything to do with protecting the powerful from the effects of violent revolution.
In fact, that's one simple way to determine if someone is seriously suicidal, or just doing it for the attention. Make a joke about death and suicide, and if they don't laugh, they're probably just doing it for the attention.
Should your tv be free (it is a create work after all) and your car and your clothes?
Your TV, clothes and car are all manufactured good, and I am sure you do not need to be told that. It is not particullarly useful to try to start a session of didactics from first principles here.
Several months ago I disabled the Java plugins/extensions in all the browsers I use. Know what I noticed? Absolutely nothing. No sites that I frequent used Java *at all*. My experience browsing the web didn't change an iota.
I had the exact same experience. Kind of sad actually given all the potential we could see when java was first announced. But in this world, java on the web is effectively dead.
It is very unlikely that you will ever come up with a system that is better than, "Those who enjoy/use the work, pay for it."
The current system is maximalist -- everyone who uses it pays for it. There is a huge range of opportunity between that and the minimalist position you have assumed.
why you would use torrent freak when there is Amazon, Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, and dozens of other ways to get video online.
Torrent freak is a news website. I expect you meant bittorrent - or more generally piracy in any form.
I've got two problems with all those "legitimate" sources:
1) Privacy - I believe it is fundamentally unfair to require that a person's viewing habits be tracked in a profile in a database somewhere that he has no control over or even the right to see the contents of -- especially when combined with all of the other cyber-stalking that corporations do nowadays. Bittorrent at least only identifies you down to an IP address and other forms of piracy are even less trackable.
2) Copyright Business Model - I belive people do deserve to get creative works for free (both cost-free and freedom to tinker-free). That doesn't mean I think the creators need to work for free, I just think that a policy of digital scarcity neuters the potential of the internet to benefit humanity as a whole. We need to be working towards methods of compensation that do not rely on distribution fees, but as long as digital scarcity is a money-maker for the entrenched interests there is little incentive to explore alternatives. I don't think any individual pirate is going to make a difference in that regard, but in aggregate it can.
They didn't walk up to the police and say "Hey, arrest me", but they did risk imprisonment by being physically present.
Read how the OP (phantomfive) responded. He uses the exact same argument to come to the opposite conclusion - that occupy protestors who block bridges were actually whiners. It was, as I said in my original post, just a made up excuse to denigrate the protests of people he doesn't like.
I'd also say that DDOSers risk arrest too - we've seen a number of them arrested. It isn't as easy - but back in the day of the Boston Tea Party physical arrest wasn't so easy either, no helicopters, no cop cars, no radios, no handguns, no flashlights - all technologies that have enhanced police response with very little to enhance protestor's ability to evade arrest.
It's not that they WANT to be arrested, it's that they believe enough in their principle that they are WILLING to be if it comes to that. Quite different than some of the whiny babies at modern protests.
Who exactly are these "whiny babies?" Seems to me that if they show up, then they are accepting the risks. Meanwhile the examples I gave are of people actively taking precautions not to be arrested and for which arrest plays no part in their plan of protest.
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I guess you see what you want to see. Yes, they have a spotty past.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 5-10 times, and I deserve to have a gorilla throw chairs at me.
The meme that the public does not have access to this stuff is just wrong.
Tell that to anyone living in South Dakota.
Many universities offer library cards to the public; for example my employer paid for my Princeton University Library card for about 10 years.
You seem confused here, the previous poster was talking about how only the privileged have access to the information, your citing your employer paying for your access reinforces his point.
And maintaining a collection like that is clearly not free.
As someone with a bunch of research librarians in his family I can assure you that maintaining a dead-tree collection is orders of magnitude more expensive than a digital collection. Especially of tax-payer funded works. If we can afford to pay for the creation of the works, we can afford to pay for the digital maintenance and distribution of those same works.
The suggestion that he did not have access to an elite education is rediculous under the circumstances.
Yes, it would be ridiculous, that's why no one is making it.
The point of bring up this policy is that Swartz was not working for the benefit of Stanford alumni. He was working to benefit EVERYONE, including people who can't even afford community college.
Over the years I've noticed this is a pretty common theme on Slashdot - You could post a story about some backwater, torture-filled nation lead by some despotic religious zealot and 26 replies will immediately say "Yeah, but the USA is TEN TIMES WORSE!"
Over the years I've noticed this is a pretty common theme on Slashdot - people point out problems in other countries, others draw parallels to the US and some pseudo-patriot type comes along and exaggerates those parallels in order to complain about the people pointing them out.
The problem with your complaining is that while Americans have very little influence over other what other governments do in other countries, here at least we claim to have the democratic process in order to fix our own problems. But you can't fix what you don't know about. "My country, right or wrong. If right to be kept right, if wrong to be set right."
Actually, the theory of evolution doesn't fly you anywhere. In fact, I'm willing to place hard money on a substantial amount of the Apollo project not believing in evolution.
Probably true, but that certainly was not the face of it.
Science has provided us everything that religion has historically promised,
Are my 72 virgins still growing in the lab or something?
I've spent time as a consultant for large and mid-sized companies (most of them publicly traded) and see pretty much the opposite of what you are describing.
I agree, I've never heard of "clutch and hold" and a google search only turns up automotive references for at least the first three pages of hits. While the opposite - "spend it or lose it" has been SOP for more decades than I've even been alive. FWIW, all of the first three pages of google's hits are variations on the theme of spending it now in order to justify future/continued budget allocations.
You really think the Casinos would not put an end to pickpockets on their turf? They don't like competition from amateurs.
They don't do a thing unless you make a big stink and the thieves are stupid enough to get caught with the items on them. There are a bunch of threads on the city-data.com las vegas boards about how casino security is there only to stop people from stealing from the casino and how various people had stuff stolen with minimal response. Like casino security wouldn't even look at their own video footage.
âoeTheir paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our actual dystopic present. We canâ(TM)t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually in reality happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of imaginary Hitler.â - Jon Stewart
"Look, as with most bits we do, whether of the fully fleshed out or more drive-by variety, there are always various counterarguments and nuances of language and thought that can be cited as evidence of this show's inherent unfairness or ignorance." - Jon Stewart
Or we'll see them lobby for legislation to make secret TOS's legally binding.
If anything good comes of this situation it would be nice if Swartz were to become the Mohamed Bouazizi of prosecutorial reform in the US. Unlikely, but one can hope.
The libs will want to institute more government regulations over theoretical earthquake risks and so forth, interfering with the efforts of businessmen to create wealth and jobs.
Problems with things like this and fracking have an easy fix - just require the management of all involved companies to live right on the site of project. If they are willing to eat their own dogfood then you know it's safe.
Unsold copies get shipped back and destroyed (which costs money).
That may be true for hardcovers, I don't really know. But for softcovers the practice has been to rip the front cover off and send it back, while letting the retailer dump them in the trash. Same thing with magazines. I learned how it all worked as a young teenager when I discovered that once a month, the convenience store near my school bus-stop would load up the trash-bin out back with an entire month's worth of porn magazines, all missing the front covers. What they couldn't legally sell to me, I could now dumpster-dive for free.
You obviously didn't check the summaries from the last 24hrs then. There are MANY examples of series of two or less where there is a comma before the 'and'.
Yet you decided to complain about the one where the oxford comma was used correctly. Next time go post your grammar complaint as a response to the story that you are actually complaining about.
Make that argument, don't just reference it. I think representative democracy as it stands in the US now fits that description, but it needn't.
Explain why you think it, don't just say it. Hypocrite.
In the West there's the illusion of choice. Makes people so much more accepting of unelected power-brokers.
There is a pretty strong argument that democracy has nothing to do with human rights and everything to do with protecting the powerful from the effects of violent revolution.
I've never heard of DoubleRAM, so it can't be that big. The biggest software scam has to be anti-virus.
It was called "RAM Doubler" - A-V is probably the longest lasting scam. but RAM Doubler burned very bright for a couple of years.
In fact, that's one simple way to determine if someone is seriously suicidal, or just doing it for the attention. Make a joke about death and suicide, and if they don't laugh, they're probably just doing it for the attention.
Or they've already commited suicide.
Should your tv be free (it is a create work after all) and your car and your clothes?
Your TV, clothes and car are all manufactured good, and I am sure you do not need to be told that. It is not particullarly useful to try to start a session of didactics from first principles here.
Several months ago I disabled the Java plugins/extensions in all the browsers I use. Know what I noticed? Absolutely nothing. No sites that I frequent used Java *at all*. My experience browsing the web didn't change an iota.
I had the exact same experience. Kind of sad actually given all the potential we could see when java was first announced. But in this world, java on the web is effectively dead.
It is very unlikely that you will ever come up with a system that is better than, "Those who enjoy/use the work, pay for it."
The current system is maximalist -- everyone who uses it pays for it. There is a huge range of opportunity between that and the minimalist position you have assumed.
why you would use torrent freak when there is Amazon, Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, and dozens of other ways to get video online.
Torrent freak is a news website. I expect you meant bittorrent - or more generally piracy in any form.
I've got two problems with all those "legitimate" sources:
1) Privacy - I believe it is fundamentally unfair to require that a person's viewing habits be tracked in a profile in a database somewhere that he has no control over or even the right to see the contents of -- especially when combined with all of the other cyber-stalking that corporations do nowadays. Bittorrent at least only identifies you down to an IP address and other forms of piracy are even less trackable.
2) Copyright Business Model - I belive people do deserve to get creative works for free (both cost-free and freedom to tinker-free). That doesn't mean I think the creators need to work for free, I just think that a policy of digital scarcity neuters the potential of the internet to benefit humanity as a whole. We need to be working towards methods of compensation that do not rely on distribution fees, but as long as digital scarcity is a money-maker for the entrenched interests there is little incentive to explore alternatives. I don't think any individual pirate is going to make a difference in that regard, but in aggregate it can.
They didn't walk up to the police and say "Hey, arrest me", but they did risk imprisonment by being physically present.
Read how the OP (phantomfive) responded. He uses the exact same argument to come to the opposite conclusion - that occupy protestors who block bridges were actually whiners. It was, as I said in my original post, just a made up excuse to denigrate the protests of people he doesn't like.
I'd also say that DDOSers risk arrest too - we've seen a number of them arrested. It isn't as easy - but back in the day of the Boston Tea Party physical arrest wasn't so easy either, no helicopters, no cop cars, no radios, no handguns, no flashlights - all technologies that have enhanced police response with very little to enhance protestor's ability to evade arrest.
The idiots who whined when they got arrested for trying to block traffic while crossing the bridge lol
Yeah, sure, sounds like projection to me.
It's not that they WANT to be arrested, it's that they believe enough in their principle that they are WILLING to be if it comes to that. Quite different than some of the whiny babies at modern protests.
Who exactly are these "whiny babies?" Seems to me that if they show up, then they are accepting the risks. Meanwhile the examples I gave are of people actively taking precautions not to be arrested and for which arrest plays no part in their plan of protest.