I'm a computer scientist, german universities usually don't offer software engineering courses. Actually I'm not sure what the exact distinction between both terms would be (in german both terms translate to the same term)
As you probably have guessed: I worked mostly at the university and skipped the classes:) that is why I'm a highly educated professional. Why you imply you think otherwise is beyond me.
I oversee your insults, as you are just a young Padawan.
I don't know about your country but here you learn Chiropractics in an university. Or in other health/medical schools where you learn something like physiotherapie. I guess you are mixing up Chiropractics with something else. Chiropractic is NOT a branch of orthopedics. Yes, it is. I suggest to read the relevant Wikipedia article... orthopedics is an umbrella term refering to everything regarding bones an sinew. So Chiropractics and Oesteopathy are both branches of Chiropractics. In other countries, it is a branch of massage, though (e.g Shiatsu in Japan). (facepalm)
But perhaps you are illusional because both founders of that branches where wackos and thought they could heal infections, cancer and other stuff, and hence you are neglecting the parts of it that works very well. E.g. setting a dsilocated joint. Your experience if I set a dislocated shoulder or a Chiropracticer or an Orthopedic will be the same: as we all will use one of the three standard techniques... facepalm again.
It helps to know something about the topic you post to... just an idea.
Regarding your hint about 'scientific'... no idea to what you aim. There are thousands of studies and in Europe all countries/health insurances pay for consultation of a Chiropracticer... after all it is a title you only can aquire via a state sanctioned school or university study, resulting in a certificate or a diploma or even a PhD, med.
I was more aiming at the stupit halting problem comment. I workes with cross translators, in the 1990s there was a system called TXL (the X was a 'joke' for 'transforming', so the whole thing was called 'tree transformation language') I translated a few 100k lines of Modula II into perfectly working C code. I had prefered C++, but that was on an Arcon Archimedes. Translating a game written originally in Pascal on an Atari ST. Not sure why I had Modula II in it... probably it was converted to Modula II for Macs first, or I mix it up and it was a Pascal to C conversion.
Anyway, as long as languages have similar concepts, procedures/functions in Pascal/Modula versus functions in C and records versus structs, the transmorgifying is straight forward.
... demand a huge chunk of their revenue forever Actually, patents don't last forever. And its even possible to make a competing product without touching anyones patents.
While COBOL programmers are in demand, the demand is not very high. And banks actually do train programmers, every company does. So: the main reason why the demand is low: the COBOL systems simply run. And is why they don't get replaced. Why would I replace a program which only get changed once, around 1998, over the course of the last 30 - 40 years? Hu? Banking is a well known domain since a few thousand years. The requirements for data processing backends rarely change. When I did Y2K reengineering I had code in my hands that literally never was touched/changed since it was considered good enough to go into production.
One may master without being an expert, but master do tend to be experts. Actually most masters are generalists. They can look over the fence and think out of the box.
In Germany it is a piece of paper that tells everyone you are good in passing the required tests to get the paper;) Well, it is not that bad, but the typical best degrees diplomas are people who actually in fact only can pass tests and have no clue what so ever about the topic. The rest, even if they only get a D, are often very good programmers/software engineers.
Actually nearly everything is easier to learn by doing instead of learning or a combination. Or lets say it this way: 80% doing 20% learning. However a CS degree, e.g. in Germany, is 95% learning and only 5% doing... I know CS PhD's that literally never programmed a single line of code. Half of the learning is completely pointless for a job outside of the university. Simple example: I don't need to know how a transistor works to write a C program (I know how it works, just an example) You can fully expect a CS graduate to have no clue about programming at all.
Same, actually I don't know a single person that can. In my field of work, no none is doing it. I avoid Excel like the plague. And: in case you have not realized it in your decades of carrier in IT: Excel macros don't run on Bash command lines, as Services in a Java backend or as Greasemonkey scripts in a web browser...
I will state, however, that they do not follow the scientific method and cannot back up their claims with scientific studies. Are you an idiot? The oldest mass tests - usually done on convicts or prisoners of war (which usually became slaves) - for acupuncture are probably 4000 years old. And since the west has adopted acupuncture we have thousands of 'scientific studies' about it, probably 10,000ds. Chiropractics is a branch of orthopedy. Why you claim it is not following 'scientific methods' is beyond me. Either you can fix a dislocated joint or you can't, that is super easy to test, facepalm.
And to practice either as a professional, you need a medical diploma.
But god help you if you see an acupuncturist for malignant melanoma... And god help that acupuncturist, too. He would be sued into oblivion and had likely jail time. Oh, I forgot: in the sane world, probably not in the US.
And for all those 'medical professions' you need in every country of the world -- except the USA, ofc. -- a medical education. Either a university degree or at least a "healing practitioner" certificate.
Falun Gong is strictly speaking not forbidden because it is a religion, but for two main reasons: a) they started to advice their members to reject certain medical treatments, that put them under investigations b) because of the investigations, they started mass demonstrations, thousands of sitting blockades all over China
Showing the government how many they are and being able to organize such big demonstrations urged the government to forbid them.
They did not 'fail misserably'. They got destroyed from the inside by fraud. One of the founders tried to run away with the investors money. He spent most of it and failed to run far, so: he failed missserable. The project itslef actually made good progress.
The stuff you mention is no issue. Self driving cars don't get a rating to drive on public roads unless they have a track record of several million miles anyway.
On github basically anyone can commit on a branch and make a merge request. It only depends how you set up the access rules.
So a pretty dumb comment.
angel'o'sphere never 'really' graduated. In Germany my degree does not count, it is a Vordiplom in Computer Sciense and Physics. That is a little bit below an american Master, but significantly above Bachelor. I studied till roughly 1999, perhaps 2003, would need to check my 'university bills'. I wrote a Diploma Thesis about automatic Program Transformations, basically the stuff we now have in CASE systems as model transformations. To have a real Diploma I need one or two more written exams. But I'm to lazy for that:)
1997 I incorporated with some friends my first stock company (that is why it is the inofficial end of my studies). Working in Y2K reengineering fixing roughly 1million lines of Cobol and some 600k PL/1 code. Afterwards I was chief consultant (or how ever you would call that in english) for Thyssen Krupp Stahl, coaching a set of teams with in total of 300 software developers, reporting directly to the CTO. Then Fiducia, coaching about 10 teams with about 10 members each doing requirements engineering, high level design and architectures and teaching UML, for the restructuring of several majour banks and thier data centers with roughly 3000 software developers. Other big companies I consulted are: EnBW.com, Landesbank Badenwuertemberg, Continental, Finanzinformatik, Postbank etc.
I started commerical programming on Appe ][ with age of 16 in 1982. So: I have 35 years of software development and system management experience, as I imediatly started working in the university on Unix and Vax systems, partly programming partly adminstration. I also programmed in the robotics institute a bit, mercano wheels robot, pretty fascinating.
Btw. if you goggle a bit you even might find an old CV that contains the complete project history since 1982 till something around 2007. Around 2007 I removed all projects that were older than 10 years.
So: yes, I consulted as lead architect/coach software projects with several thousand people involved, and now get of my lawn. (Without Diploma... no one ever asked)
And now stop making a fool out of yourself by insulting fellow/. ers.
If you don't agree that code ownership is an outdated concept, that is fine. Insulting other software engineers is not fine.
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So dutch architects will probably in high demand :)
I'm a computer scientist, german universities usually don't offer software engineering courses.
Actually I'm not sure what the exact distinction between both terms would be (in german both terms translate to the same term)
As you probably have guessed: I worked mostly at the university and skipped the classes :) that is why I'm a highly educated professional. Why you imply you think otherwise is beyond me.
I oversee your insults, as you are just a young Padawan.
Yes, for Amazone the alternative e.g. is iTunes/Apple and Google ... wow, that was easy.
So what exactly is the alternative to Amazone or Google play and how does that affect the revenue of the developers selling there? Hm?
And you simply are an idiot.
If I ever will build a plane it would not be a hazzard to anyone, as I would use a certified kit, you moron.
Also it is not my fault that I know more about the topic than you ... or, actually it is.
Sorr, don't understand your question.
I appologize if you missunderstood my question. ...
Obviously you are giving a damn
Anyway, I really wonder why would one who has a C++ compiler by default on his computer woukd use C's I/O or strung library when he can use C++ ...
But perhaps you wanted to say you use only the C subset of C++ and a little bit of its libraries ... I don't know, hence I asked.
db <- my newly invented smily for namaste / sawadee khrab.
I don't know about your country but here you learn Chiropractics in an university. ... orthopedics is an umbrella term refering to everything regarding bones an sinew. So Chiropractics and Oesteopathy are both branches of Chiropractics.
Or in other health/medical schools where you learn something like physiotherapie. I guess you are mixing up Chiropractics with something else.
Chiropractic is NOT a branch of orthopedics.
Yes, it is. I suggest to read the relevant Wikipedia article
In other countries, it is a branch of massage, though (e.g Shiatsu in Japan). (facepalm)
But perhaps you are illusional because both founders of that branches where wackos and thought they could heal infections, cancer and other stuff, and hence you are neglecting the parts of it that works very well. ... facepalm again.
E.g. setting a dsilocated joint. Your experience if I set a dislocated shoulder or a Chiropracticer or an Orthopedic will be the same: as we all will use one of the three standard techniques
It helps to know something about the topic you post to ... just an idea.
Regarding your hint about 'scientific' ... no idea to what you aim. There are thousands of studies and in Europe all countries/health insurances pay for consultation of a Chiropracticer ... after all it is a title you only can aquire via a state sanctioned school or university study, resulting in a certificate or a diploma or even a PhD, med.
I was more aiming at the stupit halting problem comment. ... probably it was converted to Modula II for Macs first, or I mix it up and it was a Pascal to C conversion.
I workes with cross translators, in the 1990s there was a system called TXL (the X was a 'joke' for 'transforming', so the whole thing was called 'tree transformation language') I translated a few 100k lines of Modula II into perfectly working C code. I had prefered C++, but that was on an Arcon Archimedes. Translating a game written originally in Pascal on an Atari ST. Not sure why I had Modula II in it
Anyway, as long as languages have similar concepts, procedures/functions in Pascal/Modula versus functions in C and records versus structs, the transmorgifying is straight forward.
... demand a huge chunk of their revenue forever
Actually, patents don't last forever.
And its even possible to make a competing product without touching anyones patents.
While COBOL programmers are in demand, the demand is not very high.
And banks actually do train programmers, every company does.
So: the main reason why the demand is low: the COBOL systems simply run. And is why they don't get replaced. Why would I replace a program which only get changed once, around 1998, over the course of the last 30 - 40 years?
Hu? Banking is a well known domain since a few thousand years.
The requirements for data processing backends rarely change. When I did Y2K reengineering I had code in my hands that literally never was touched/changed since it was considered good enough to go into production.
You do not need to know what the program is doing to translate it automatically into another language. ...
Every compiler does that all the time
If your derived class does not use much of its base class you should not have inherited from it. ...
Plain and simple
Uh, did you post the long link?
The treaty is about 'not putting weapons of mass destruction' into space.
How is that a marxist leninist paradise?
One may master without being an expert, but master do tend to be experts.
Actually most masters are generalists.
They can look over the fence and think out of the box.
In Germany it is a piece of paper that tells everyone you are good in passing the required tests to get the paper ;)
Well, it is not that bad, but the typical best degrees diplomas are people who actually in fact only can pass tests and have no clue what so ever about the topic. The rest, even if they only get a D, are often very good programmers/software engineers.
Actually nearly everything is easier to learn by doing instead of learning or a combination. Or lets say it this way: 80% doing 20% learning. ... I know CS PhD's that literally never programmed a single line of code. Half of the learning is completely pointless for a job outside of the university. Simple example: I don't need to know how a transistor works to write a C program (I know how it works, just an example)
However a CS degree, e.g. in Germany, is 95% learning and only 5% doing
You can fully expect a CS graduate to have no clue about programming at all.
Same, actually I don't know a single person that can. ...
In my field of work, no none is doing it. I avoid Excel like the plague.
And: in case you have not realized it in your decades of carrier in IT: Excel macros don't run on Bash command lines, as Services in a Java backend or as Greasemonkey scripts in a web browser
I will state, however, that they do not follow the scientific method and cannot back up their claims with scientific studies.
Are you an idiot?
The oldest mass tests - usually done on convicts or prisoners of war (which usually became slaves) - for acupuncture are probably 4000 years old. And since the west has adopted acupuncture we have thousands of 'scientific studies' about it, probably 10,000ds.
Chiropractics is a branch of orthopedy. Why you claim it is not following 'scientific methods' is beyond me.
Either you can fix a dislocated joint or you can't, that is super easy to test, facepalm.
And to practice either as a professional, you need a medical diploma.
But god help you if you see an acupuncturist for malignant melanoma...
And god help that acupuncturist, too. He would be sued into oblivion and had likely jail time. Oh, I forgot: in the sane world, probably not in the US.
You forgot to add the important keywords: in the USA
And for all those 'medical professions' you need in every country of the world -- except the USA, ofc. -- a medical education. Either a university degree or at least a "healing practitioner" certificate.
So what exactly was your point?
Falun Gong is strictly speaking not forbidden because it is a religion, but for two main reasons:
a) they started to advice their members to reject certain medical treatments, that put them under investigations
b) because of the investigations, they started mass demonstrations, thousands of sitting blockades all over China
Showing the government how many they are and being able to organize such big demonstrations urged the government to forbid them.
There was ince a german company, Cargo Lifter.
They gave thousands of show cases for such heavy lifting.
Unfortunately, one of the founders destroyed the companie with fraudulant fincancial actions.
They did not 'fail misserably'.
They got destroyed from the inside by fraud. One of the founders tried to run away with the investors money. He spent most of it and failed to run far, so: he failed missserable.
The project itslef actually made good progress.
The stuff you mention is no issue. Self driving cars don't get a rating to drive on public roads unless they have a track record of several million miles anyway.
On github basically anyone can commit on a branch and make a merge request. It only depends how you set up the access rules.
So a pretty dumb comment.
angel'o'sphere never 'really' graduated. In Germany my degree does not count, it is a Vordiplom in Computer :)
Sciense and Physics. That is a little bit below an american Master, but significantly above Bachelor. I studied till roughly 1999, perhaps 2003, would need to check my 'university bills'. I wrote a Diploma Thesis about automatic Program Transformations, basically the stuff we now have in CASE systems as model transformations. To have a real Diploma I need one or two more written exams. But I'm to lazy for that
1997 I incorporated with some friends my first stock company (that is why it is the inofficial end of my studies). Working in Y2K reengineering fixing roughly 1million lines of Cobol and some 600k PL/1 code.
Afterwards I was chief consultant (or how ever you would call that in english) for Thyssen Krupp Stahl, coaching a set of teams with in total of 300 software developers, reporting directly to the CTO. Then Fiducia, coaching about 10 teams with about 10 members each doing requirements engineering, high level design and architectures and teaching UML, for the restructuring of several majour banks and thier data centers with roughly 3000 software developers.
Other big companies I consulted are: EnBW.com, Landesbank Badenwuertemberg, Continental, Finanzinformatik, Postbank etc.
I started commerical programming on Appe ][ with age of 16 in 1982. So: I have 35 years of software development and system management experience, as I imediatly started working in the university on Unix and Vax systems, partly programming partly adminstration. I also programmed in the robotics institute a bit, mercano wheels robot, pretty fascinating.
Btw. if you goggle a bit you even might find an old CV that contains the complete project history since 1982 till something around 2007. Around 2007 I removed all projects that were older than 10 years.
So: yes, I consulted as lead architect/coach software projects with several thousand people involved, and now get of my lawn. (Without Diploma ... no one ever asked)
And now stop making a fool out of yourself by insulting fellow /. ers.
If you don't agree that code ownership is an outdated concept, that is fine. Insulting other software engineers is not fine.