a unified update process would be a nightmare though. When it comes to applications I often have to review the update, some "updates" are rushed. With the exception of security updates, most of the time you don't have to worry about an update. Patch whores are just asking for trouble.
Ya it is completely unreasonable for a home user to check the "Automatic update button" Wait...that is the default option. Even in my Enterprise organization it isnt exactly a pain to setup a WSUS server...
This just sounds like someone trying to stir up trouble to get attention. Patching is part of life. It is not a pain, it is about as easy of a task as you can have, most home users don't even know they do it.
Right now the Que has the right idea but it is a bit pricey. If we could see an e-reader around $200 that is network capable and has the ability to send print jobs to it. You can sign me up for at least $50 units. THe possibilities of e-ink in the business environment are impressive. As an Admin I could control loose papers with a password, reduce the usage of consumables and really speed up the availibility of information. No more...where did I put that spreadsheet or flyer...Our management here is pretty sold on the Que for the legal department but definitely are concerned with the price of pushing it out to more users.
So... what makes it better than a netbook, again, Apple?
I think that Palm thought the same thing about the iPod...good thing Palm was right and is currently dominating the market in PDAs. No one cares about interface anyway.
I will take an even bet with anyone that in 3 years the netbook is dead and we see some really slick slate devices out there. Probably running Android or another flavor of Linux.
Photoshop?...seriously?, what idiot runs photoshop on a netbook? or VMware for that matter...what you describe above barely runs on a laptop let alone a netbook, I cant believe you got insightful for that list and I am a netbook fanboy.
I am all about the government keeping their hands off of things but the ISPs seem to be going the way of the Telcos, they have the public by the testicles and are charging insane rates for terrible service. Heck just this weekend I was running at 500Kbs and I pay for tier 2 RoadRunner service. I routinely have to call for spotty access, sometimes things just drop. Now I know a thing or two about networking so I can troubleshoot this but what about Joe 6 pack? Our internet access has been pretty stagnant because no one wants to upgrade infrastucture because they can charge people out of the wazoo for sub par service.
However, I think it would be better if the FCC would give tax benefits to companies that hit the minimum specs rather than fining them for not hitting the mark...
I definately agree with you on robotics not being as advanced as biology itself. However, robotics has a large place in medicine, they just don't do as good of a job as the original part in the aspect of prosthesis or an insulin drip doesn't work as well as going au natural. We also have a variety of other items we stick in our bodies to help us function when our body fails us. But yes, the organism is an insanely complex amazing thing.
Man some mod is having fun with this thread. It is the replacement for task manager. Right now you can open task manager for a general overview, then if you need more details to see what handles are in use or what is using network resources, disk resources, memory resources...etc it will tell you. Not much different from process explorer just not as good reporting functionality.
Ya I was just thinking that our robotics tech was more advanced than our understanding of biology. Creating a series of nanobots that repaired telomeres and attacked foreign items seems simpler than revamping an entire immune system. Not that we shouldn't keep advancing our understanding of biology but our immune systems have been working on getting where they are for a very long time. It might not be wise to mess with that.
Well the more irritating thing here is that this is not news. I am a windows guy, however:
1.ESX has been doing P2V on the fly for free for years.
2. Diskmon has been out so long that I assumed everyone knew about it.
3. ISO utility? Seriously? Makes me wonder where all of you were before CD ROM drives, anyone remember doing upgrades from hard disk after copying the OS down so it would install? what year was that '95?
For once I have to side with the Linux snobs...this is OLD news for anyone who has been working with windows for more than a couple years. If you are a linux user, here is your moment to say..."wow, you weren't able to do that before?"
I think you miss the point, the analogy would be more along the lines of adding the fact that that new trendy car has standard parts that work well together and a fuel that powers them. Your benefit is a car that gets 10x the gas mileage and is far more durable because of these facts.
Imagine if your car only drove on tires meant for it, premium fuel, and when you took it to the mechanic it got the same parts rather than some somewhat compatable parts.
THIS is the reason apple is so fantastic, they control what goes in and out of their devices, therefore they can have an device that operates as intended without fighting crappy parts that kind of work. If you dont like this then you have other choices. This is the REASON people buy apple, for that level of quality and stability because they dont let every bitch and hoe on their equipment. I imagine your car would run better if went this route as well...wait that is what premium cars already do, ever owned a cadillac?
So is that why there is no 3G in this device? I am an apple fan but seriously, don't you find it interesting how often something comes out from apple that is cool but missing one key factor, only to have that factor added in 1 year? Upgrades I can understand but basic functionality? Check the history of the iPod and iPhone for a good example.
While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo's and aaaahhh's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models. This is by design for good profitability. However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now, they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them.
Let me help you understand because this is a very important point. There is a difference between being a professional doing a job and a professional who interefere's with business because they read a security model in the latest SANS newsletter. As an IT pro it is your job to present the options and consequences, you should do it in a manner that the CIO or whoever is in charge can understand. However, if the Owners choose to go a different route, that is THEIR call not yours. Many admins piss and moan about their job and how no one follows security practices. Some even go to the point of locking a system down to where people cant do their jobs, and often enough the controls I have seen don't even provide security. So you are blocking all the websites but you still allow USB mass storage devices...fantastic that is really gonna help you.
What admins need to do is work with the business, figure out what your company does to earn money, how can you as an IT admin work to make this a safer and better place to work, how can you secure data? As I mentioned policies rarely work, actual security doesn't rely on humans obeying a piece of paper, by the time that piece of paper is brought out it is too late and the breach has already occurred.
As a published security professional myself I can attest to the fact that we as IT people need to do a better job of understanding what it is we do and how to get it done. This, as I have said many times already, includes understanding who your boss is and what they want you to do. But at the end of the day, if the owner wants they can march down to your office and demand to see your files and you have to do it even if they want to go around all the pieces of paper in the way. Just document it, document it again, and of course don't break the law.
I wasn't inferring the guy was one of the IT admins in question, I was just referring to the number of admins out there that are looking at this question and overstep their bounds. IT encompasses pretty much all of the company but that doesnt mean we run it.
Yes I am a security specialist, yes I am very experienced, yes I wish that the real world would meet up with security dreams but it doesnt. Call me a pragmatist, that is how I run security.
What are you an admin noob or something? You cant. You are IT, you are SUPPORT STAFF, you do what you can to create policies and safeguard against disaster. The owners do not report to you, you are not their boss, if they want to take a torch to your server room because they feel cold they can. Just as pretty much every post at this point has made, suck it up and do your job. When you own your own company you can force people whichever way you want but until then, see the above posts.
Which brings up a pet peeve here, what is the deal with IT people who think they run the company? As an IT admin I spend most of my time figuring out how to work WITH people who bring in the cash. I spend my time asking people what I can do to make their job better rather than the usual "You should be doing X, Y or Z because I said so".
Our job as admins is to be there when crap hits the fan, and do what we can to prevent it when prudent. But most of my policies aren't based on the behavior of humans. That is asking for disaster, you plan around what you CAN control, remote backups are a cinch, password policies are a cinch, Cryptography is free, and all of these don't require user intervention. If the boss says he doesn't want to do one then you smile and say fine with me sir/madam just explain the consequences and let them decide if it is worth it. If they say yes then you do it, you don't fight them.
Well think about it, many companies start small and become massive giants. Or a product hits an already saturated market and dominates it. Apple crushed the Palm, Google crushed Yahoo, Dell Crushed Gateway...the list goes on and on in the tech industry. Even when another giant comes into the fray with a different product where another vendor used to dominate. If this is your market and you are putting millions of dollars into R&D no one should touch you. Apple never should have been able to get into the PDA market, Google never should have beat up yahoo and Dell should never have beat Gateway.
Ya I am not a conspiracy theory guy, but honestly, there is a reason these little startup Smack the crap out of the corps with their new devices. Make no mistake, Corps are here to make money, not to be innovative. I guarantee the iSlate will be missing some key features that will be magically added next year with iSlate2 after the google tablet comes out with all the features the slate should have.
Our TVs were becoming too consistent, we were due for a major change. One thing you can guarantee with TV tech is they will make sure that it is obsolete the next year. It is just good business.
Eg, why I like for-profit SMB, efficiency is the model because the bottom line is small. When a Company takes home less than 50 mil a year you have to be careful with assets. It is produce or leave. Whereas in bigger corps fat and bureaucracy are everywhere.
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who uses those products? I got rid of them on my LAN a long time ago....
a unified update process would be a nightmare though. When it comes to applications I often have to review the update, some "updates" are rushed. With the exception of security updates, most of the time you don't have to worry about an update. Patch whores are just asking for trouble.
This just sounds like someone trying to stir up trouble to get attention. Patching is part of life. It is not a pain, it is about as easy of a task as you can have, most home users don't even know they do it.
Right now the Que has the right idea but it is a bit pricey. If we could see an e-reader around $200 that is network capable and has the ability to send print jobs to it. You can sign me up for at least $50 units. THe possibilities of e-ink in the business environment are impressive. As an Admin I could control loose papers with a password, reduce the usage of consumables and really speed up the availibility of information. No more...where did I put that spreadsheet or flyer...Our management here is pretty sold on the Que for the legal department but definitely are concerned with the price of pushing it out to more users.
I think that Palm thought the same thing about the iPod...good thing Palm was right and is currently dominating the market in PDAs. No one cares about interface anyway.
I will take an even bet with anyone that in 3 years the netbook is dead and we see some really slick slate devices out there. Probably running Android or another flavor of Linux.
Photoshop?...seriously?, what idiot runs photoshop on a netbook? or VMware for that matter...what you describe above barely runs on a laptop let alone a netbook, I cant believe you got insightful for that list and I am a netbook fanboy.
However, I think it would be better if the FCC would give tax benefits to companies that hit the minimum specs rather than fining them for not hitting the mark...
I definately agree with you on robotics not being as advanced as biology itself. However, robotics has a large place in medicine, they just don't do as good of a job as the original part in the aspect of prosthesis or an insulin drip doesn't work as well as going au natural. We also have a variety of other items we stick in our bodies to help us function when our body fails us. But yes, the organism is an insanely complex amazing thing.
Man some mod is having fun with this thread. It is the replacement for task manager. Right now you can open task manager for a general overview, then if you need more details to see what handles are in use or what is using network resources, disk resources, memory resources...etc it will tell you. Not much different from process explorer just not as good reporting functionality.
Ya I was just thinking that our robotics tech was more advanced than our understanding of biology. Creating a series of nanobots that repaired telomeres and attacked foreign items seems simpler than revamping an entire immune system. Not that we shouldn't keep advancing our understanding of biology but our immune systems have been working on getting where they are for a very long time. It might not be wise to mess with that.
Again....Ever heard of resouce monitor...built right in...been there since vista...
Good lord have you used vista or 7 yet? Have you even tried the Resource monitor that is built in? I havent used process mon in years as a sys admin.
1.ESX has been doing P2V on the fly for free for years.
2. Diskmon has been out so long that I assumed everyone knew about it.
3. ISO utility? Seriously? Makes me wonder where all of you were before CD ROM drives, anyone remember doing upgrades from hard disk after copying the OS down so it would install? what year was that '95?
For once I have to side with the Linux snobs...this is OLD news for anyone who has been working with windows for more than a couple years. If you are a linux user, here is your moment to say..."wow, you weren't able to do that before?"
Maybe I have been reading too much sci-fi lately but arent we closer to using nanotech as an immune system than using biological sources?
Imagine if your car only drove on tires meant for it, premium fuel, and when you took it to the mechanic it got the same parts rather than some somewhat compatable parts.
THIS is the reason apple is so fantastic, they control what goes in and out of their devices, therefore they can have an device that operates as intended without fighting crappy parts that kind of work. If you dont like this then you have other choices. This is the REASON people buy apple, for that level of quality and stability because they dont let every bitch and hoe on their equipment. I imagine your car would run better if went this route as well...wait that is what premium cars already do, ever owned a cadillac?
Crap I rescind this comment, it does have 3G, I am happy with the device and very pleased to be wrong. Prices aren't too bad either.
So is that why there is no 3G in this device? I am an apple fan but seriously, don't you find it interesting how often something comes out from apple that is cool but missing one key factor, only to have that factor added in 1 year? Upgrades I can understand but basic functionality? Check the history of the iPod and iPhone for a good example.
While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo's and aaaahhh's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models. This is by design for good profitability. However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now, they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them.
Let me help you understand because this is a very important point. There is a difference between being a professional doing a job and a professional who interefere's with business because they read a security model in the latest SANS newsletter. As an IT pro it is your job to present the options and consequences, you should do it in a manner that the CIO or whoever is in charge can understand. However, if the Owners choose to go a different route, that is THEIR call not yours. Many admins piss and moan about their job and how no one follows security practices. Some even go to the point of locking a system down to where people cant do their jobs, and often enough the controls I have seen don't even provide security. So you are blocking all the websites but you still allow USB mass storage devices...fantastic that is really gonna help you.
What admins need to do is work with the business, figure out what your company does to earn money, how can you as an IT admin work to make this a safer and better place to work, how can you secure data? As I mentioned policies rarely work, actual security doesn't rely on humans obeying a piece of paper, by the time that piece of paper is brought out it is too late and the breach has already occurred.
As a published security professional myself I can attest to the fact that we as IT people need to do a better job of understanding what it is we do and how to get it done. This, as I have said many times already, includes understanding who your boss is and what they want you to do. But at the end of the day, if the owner wants they can march down to your office and demand to see your files and you have to do it even if they want to go around all the pieces of paper in the way. Just document it, document it again, and of course don't break the law.
Yes I am a security specialist, yes I am very experienced, yes I wish that the real world would meet up with security dreams but it doesnt. Call me a pragmatist, that is how I run security.
Which brings up a pet peeve here, what is the deal with IT people who think they run the company? As an IT admin I spend most of my time figuring out how to work WITH people who bring in the cash. I spend my time asking people what I can do to make their job better rather than the usual "You should be doing X, Y or Z because I said so".
Our job as admins is to be there when crap hits the fan, and do what we can to prevent it when prudent. But most of my policies aren't based on the behavior of humans. That is asking for disaster, you plan around what you CAN control, remote backups are a cinch, password policies are a cinch, Cryptography is free, and all of these don't require user intervention. If the boss says he doesn't want to do one then you smile and say fine with me sir/madam just explain the consequences and let them decide if it is worth it. If they say yes then you do it, you don't fight them.
Well think about it, many companies start small and become massive giants. Or a product hits an already saturated market and dominates it. Apple crushed the Palm, Google crushed Yahoo, Dell Crushed Gateway...the list goes on and on in the tech industry. Even when another giant comes into the fray with a different product where another vendor used to dominate. If this is your market and you are putting millions of dollars into R&D no one should touch you. Apple never should have been able to get into the PDA market, Google never should have beat up yahoo and Dell should never have beat Gateway.
Ya I am not a conspiracy theory guy, but honestly, there is a reason these little startup Smack the crap out of the corps with their new devices. Make no mistake, Corps are here to make money, not to be innovative. I guarantee the iSlate will be missing some key features that will be magically added next year with iSlate2 after the google tablet comes out with all the features the slate should have.
Our TVs were becoming too consistent, we were due for a major change. One thing you can guarantee with TV tech is they will make sure that it is obsolete the next year. It is just good business.
Eg, why I like for-profit SMB, efficiency is the model because the bottom line is small. When a Company takes home less than 50 mil a year you have to be careful with assets. It is produce or leave. Whereas in bigger corps fat and bureaucracy are everywhere.