I would love a good alternative personally. All my users do is read the PDFs and we use PDFCreator for merging documents. I just havent found one that seems to be solid enough for the enterprise push. Any recommendations from people who have made the switch? I am getting tired of patching every 5 minutes.
Why let some nuance get in the way of a perfectly good sensational statement?
History would say that is a very dangerous statement.
That being said, if my grandma called me saying that she can get her PC to start up by kicking it, I am not going to disagree with her, rather I will take her observation and glean some facts about it rather than think about how dumb the idea is.
Likewise with Experts, a simpleton's observation may give incredible insight into something I may have thought I understood.
If I tell someone with a PhD in climate science that they are wrong, they have every right to chuckle at me, since I really don't know what I'm talking about. This is not a problem.
I beg to differ, Just because you got a PhD doesnt give a person intelligence. Having spent a majority of my life with academics I can attest to the fact that sometimes a PhD in physics can give a PhD in biology some interesting insights. Even as a well respected and highly educated IT Engineer I can get insights from a HS dropout on various subjects. Hubris is an enemy of science. When we start chuckling at those 'below' us we start putting more stock in ourselves than the facts.
It also depends on the part of the country you are in, Here in Nebraska we are still stuck with this piss poor mentality of IT people should be cheap. Most likely because we are in a college town. Hell at my current company I am the sysadmin (Debian 08R2 and BSD), and I work on securing data and managing the network directly. I have a boss like anyone else and only make 50K with rather low benefits. Almost half what the same position in the banking sector makes in other areas. This is actually a good salary in comparison to the banks and businesses I have applied to. And yes, I have 7 years experience as a sysadmin and a BSCS. Might need to get a CISSP or something but no one ever asks for them around here.
Bah, in my area it is just hard to find internships, our company offers paid internships in the security sector and I haven't had any bites in 2 summers. Of course we are in the midwest so not a high tech area.
Sys Admin jobs in banks are very boring. But you earn more than most IT people.
Thanks for the good laugh. The worst salaries I have experienced as a Sys Admin were at banks, I appied to one about 4 years ago, they offered 35K for the sysadmin position at a state bank...w..t...f. I currently work in a bank marketing firm and still make about 15% less than the going rate in my area. The experience is great though.
I will second you on this, unless the OP is figuring everyone wants to be a manager. I will take the guy/girl who went through the paces of working for a bad boss and still managed to maintain security on a LAN. Sometimes you learn more in a bad situation than in a good one. At my current job when it came to salary negotiation they wanted my previous two job's salary checks as proof of what I earn. They asked me "What is the minimum you will work for" and I handed them my checks, the guys still gave me my minimum salary request, of course right now I am just happy to have a job. It is great experience and even though the pay is not great, it is better than being unemployed or flipping burgers.
In general there is a major lack of documentation on products. I wouldnt put man pages for learning, they are for individuals who already know the command and what to get familliar with it's flags. Man is a good refresher or letting you know when an option is available. If I am using a tool I want to know if I can use option X and how. man tool that will let me know. However, when I was a noob I didnt know where to start, even the "One Page Linux Manual" doesnt tell you how to mkdir or cp -r.
It is my opinon that there needs to be better primers out there not just documentation. A no more than 5 page PDF on the distro site will do. As well in the man commnads there should be example syntax usage, that is the biggest hurdle for me when using CLI.
Of course with the GUI it should be intuitive, my opinion here is how to get users to use the CLI.
Ya, and in 2 years we will see yet another RIM style lawsuit, this seems to be the style of things now adays. Either way, this is the first time I have seen this device and I sure would have bought one. But I think the apple tablet might be along the lines of what I will end up getting.
Ya this is a poorly written article and a poorly written summation. To cut through it all it appears that the state had redundant lines before the switch to NG and somehow those lines were not maintained or NG let the contracts lapse. What I want to know is why they can't renew the contracts temporarily while a more robust solution is put in place.
On another subject, having worked for state IT in the past I can say that never in my life have I seen more incompetence than in state IT. Don't get me wrong, there are some fantastic IT people in Gov't work. However, the state tends to float people to the top based on tenure, so you have people who are skilled leaving for good private jobs, and the unskilled stay in the state floating to the top and in to positions they shouldn't be in. So you get a lot of people making decisions that shouldnt be and the only real workers you have are your lower level analysts and techs. Kinda hoping NG cleans things up a bit and this starts a trend of state IT being outsourced. We should see a massive cost savings in most states.
If you wish to debate that topic then I am more than happy to, I just had to make sure this wasn't going to be one of those discussions that degrade into a grammar battle:)
But for entertainment sake check the vehement opposition from this post:
I didnt say Christianity nor that the founding fathers were christian, just that they used Christian principles. They used several other structures as well but the Christian and Jewish law are very prominent in the constitution. I do agree with you, there are a large number of people who confuse the two.
The "as high" phrase was the thing you chose to pick on from my post, and ignored my other points. Christians have died in the US for their religion, there just haven't been very many. But the point of the original post was just to show that persecution of Christians exists in the world. Yes as my point was made above you can be in the majority and still be discriminated against, there is even a term for it; reverse discrimination.
Im not saying nor have I said that I get whipped, jailed, or tortured for being a Christian. I am glad that in the US I can be a Christian and not fear for my life. The downsides right now are just political. We do see in the US, a large overturning of anything related to Christianity in the Gov't. The ACLU spends a large amount of its time fighting these battles, in fact there is a prominent organization called the ACLJ that popped up just to balance the scales. This is however, how it starts in countries where Muslims and Jews have been heavily persecuted.
However, I feel that you are more intent in proving me wrong at this point than having a discussion over what I have said so I will stop here.
Yes, It is too bad you dont know how to use google. Now I pity your ignorance. Try googling "Christians killed by Muslims in the US". Of course it goes much higher when you look at muslim->Christian converts, or the bickering between mormons and Christians but those are all speculation.
Actually religious leaders have a pretty good track record. Yes there has been some fallout from some famous individuals but when taken in context of all the religious leaders there have been, looks pretty good. That being said I am still a big supporter of separation of church and state.
No I wasn't implying that as an atheist you have no moral compass, bit of a catchphrase I used there. But people tend to vote for the individuals who are in line with their thought processes, Christian leaders have proven to be effective and caring. There isn't much precedent for other leaders so we stick with what we know.
My beef with atheists (not agnostics), is the simple concept that they are ruling out all possibility for Diety, something that is improvable. I respect the agnostic "I don't know but I don't preclude possibility", but the atheist is believing something just as 'irrational' as the people they oppose on the same grounds. Even the atheist response to Pascal's wager takes into consideration that there may be a God. However, it has been my experience that depending on the athiest or christian, it depends on the person's personality and character, I have seen some very immoral Christians and very moral athiests.
Yes a science teacher who is Christian. Christians aren't excluded from academia, that would be illegal. However, they are not taken seriously, I can speak first hand here, and we live in the midwest.
Yes we are still a christian nation for the most part but people are working very hard to get freedom from religion. www.ffrf.org Our nation was founded using Christian principles and it worked really well. We have a lot of very progressive groups working to undo that.
As for Christians being killed for their faith every day, I'm going to have to go with 'You're delusional' on that one, sorry
believe what you want on this one, whereas in the US we don't see as high of a death toll, the world begs to differ, google "Christians Killed", or "Christian Persecution". Or just do some research on Sudan.
Since there are no metrics for slashdot Generalizations are acceptable. But I have spent time noting posts regarding people responding positively to Christian posts vs negatively and the positives are far outweighed by the negatives. Conversely, Mentions of Buddhists are largely positive. How do I measure? In a charged debate I do searches for keywords and check the replies and mods. So yes you could consider it a generalization, but an informed one.
Being in the minority when was the last time someone tried to sue you for observing your faith in public?
Depending on your faith, how many followers are killed every year for their beliefs? 'google' Christians killed, oh yea, we aren't persecuted at all.
Yes, it was a whiny post, but there is only so much of a beating you put a foot down, if that is whining then so be it.
Oddly enough, the mod up actually proves a point, along with the several posts agreeing responding to this thread
Yes a presidential candidate who isn't christian will have a hard time being elected because a large part of the voting block has a moral compass. If history is an indicator non-religious folk don't do all too well as political leaders.
Just because someone is in the majority doesn't mean they don't receive persecution.
I am actually shocked that I got +3. Is it a complex if it is real?
Truth does not require intelligence, many idiots refuse to walk off the edge of a cliff for they know they will fall to their deaths. Many people believe in the Deity of Christ and are stupid as well. However, there are subsets of each that make outlandish claims about gravity and about Christ, apologetics unlike faith requires intelligence.
I can say for a fact that most Christians I know, except for the apologists, live most of their lives in fear of the "Intelligent Civilized" folk who will mock their faith at every turn. Try walking into a science department in any University and profess to be a Christian, you would be lucky to graduate. Try being a Christian Science teacher who defends the theories of evolution, you would be lucky to get the job. This is where it starts, Christians are killed around the world every day for their faith, when was the last time you saw it in the news? Christians spend billions bringing healthcare and food to the nations, when was the last time anyone talked about that? No, what you see is the rare nutballs, you never feel the need to defend a christian who is being berated in a classroom because....it is socially acceptable.
Dude this is slashdot, if you mention Christianity the readers just substitute "ignorant masses". You have to stick to certain rules in this forum. It is the fad of our culture right now to Christian bash, after all they are not as good as the rest of humanity, they are just silly ignorant people who are a plague on society that need to be dealt with.
According to/.ers there is no rational in believing in any God, but it is ok to say you are part of any religion as long as it isn't one related to Judaism.
It is also rational to know without a doubt that there is no God.
On a brighter side it is good to see another rational christian on these forums and that I am not alone. Now brace yourself, my post is about to get modded into oblivion.
As well you have to generate a new Identifier for WSUS, and a number of other situations. I wonder if he is just referring to the machine sid, as when you join a domain you sid changes...
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Have you used those on a network, eg in an office environment where it has stood the test of time?
I would love a good alternative personally. All my users do is read the PDFs and we use PDFCreator for merging documents. I just havent found one that seems to be solid enough for the enterprise push. Any recommendations from people who have made the switch? I am getting tired of patching every 5 minutes.
History would say that is a very dangerous statement.
That being said, if my grandma called me saying that she can get her PC to start up by kicking it, I am not going to disagree with her, rather I will take her observation and glean some facts about it rather than think about how dumb the idea is.
Likewise with Experts, a simpleton's observation may give incredible insight into something I may have thought I understood.
I beg to differ, Just because you got a PhD doesnt give a person intelligence. Having spent a majority of my life with academics I can attest to the fact that sometimes a PhD in physics can give a PhD in biology some interesting insights. Even as a well respected and highly educated IT Engineer I can get insights from a HS dropout on various subjects. Hubris is an enemy of science. When we start chuckling at those 'below' us we start putting more stock in ourselves than the facts.
It also depends on the part of the country you are in, Here in Nebraska we are still stuck with this piss poor mentality of IT people should be cheap. Most likely because we are in a college town. Hell at my current company I am the sysadmin (Debian 08R2 and BSD), and I work on securing data and managing the network directly. I have a boss like anyone else and only make 50K with rather low benefits. Almost half what the same position in the banking sector makes in other areas. This is actually a good salary in comparison to the banks and businesses I have applied to. And yes, I have 7 years experience as a sysadmin and a BSCS. Might need to get a CISSP or something but no one ever asks for them around here.
Bah, in my area it is just hard to find internships, our company offers paid internships in the security sector and I haven't had any bites in 2 summers. Of course we are in the midwest so not a high tech area.
Sys Admin jobs in banks are very boring. But you earn more than most IT people. Thanks for the good laugh. The worst salaries I have experienced as a Sys Admin were at banks, I appied to one about 4 years ago, they offered 35K for the sysadmin position at a state bank...w..t...f. I currently work in a bank marketing firm and still make about 15% less than the going rate in my area. The experience is great though.
I will second you on this, unless the OP is figuring everyone wants to be a manager. I will take the guy/girl who went through the paces of working for a bad boss and still managed to maintain security on a LAN. Sometimes you learn more in a bad situation than in a good one. At my current job when it came to salary negotiation they wanted my previous two job's salary checks as proof of what I earn. They asked me "What is the minimum you will work for" and I handed them my checks, the guys still gave me my minimum salary request, of course right now I am just happy to have a job. It is great experience and even though the pay is not great, it is better than being unemployed or flipping burgers.
It is my opinon that there needs to be better primers out there not just documentation. A no more than 5 page PDF on the distro site will do. As well in the man commnads there should be example syntax usage, that is the biggest hurdle for me when using CLI.
Of course with the GUI it should be intuitive, my opinion here is how to get users to use the CLI.
Ya, and in 2 years we will see yet another RIM style lawsuit, this seems to be the style of things now adays. Either way, this is the first time I have seen this device and I sure would have bought one. But I think the apple tablet might be along the lines of what I will end up getting.
On another subject, having worked for state IT in the past I can say that never in my life have I seen more incompetence than in state IT. Don't get me wrong, there are some fantastic IT people in Gov't work. However, the state tends to float people to the top based on tenure, so you have people who are skilled leaving for good private jobs, and the unskilled stay in the state floating to the top and in to positions they shouldn't be in. So you get a lot of people making decisions that shouldnt be and the only real workers you have are your lower level analysts and techs. Kinda hoping NG cleans things up a bit and this starts a trend of state IT being outsourced. We should see a massive cost savings in most states.
But for entertainment sake check the vehement opposition from this post:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1447230&cid=30149392
Those are the debates I am trying to avoid nothing to be gained by either party there.
I didnt say Christianity nor that the founding fathers were christian, just that they used Christian principles. They used several other structures as well but the Christian and Jewish law are very prominent in the constitution. I do agree with you, there are a large number of people who confuse the two.
The "as high" phrase was the thing you chose to pick on from my post, and ignored my other points. Christians have died in the US for their religion, there just haven't been very many. But the point of the original post was just to show that persecution of Christians exists in the world. Yes as my point was made above you can be in the majority and still be discriminated against, there is even a term for it; reverse discrimination.
Im not saying nor have I said that I get whipped, jailed, or tortured for being a Christian. I am glad that in the US I can be a Christian and not fear for my life. The downsides right now are just political. We do see in the US, a large overturning of anything related to Christianity in the Gov't. The ACLU spends a large amount of its time fighting these battles, in fact there is a prominent organization called the ACLJ that popped up just to balance the scales. This is however, how it starts in countries where Muslims and Jews have been heavily persecuted.
However, I feel that you are more intent in proving me wrong at this point than having a discussion over what I have said so I will stop here.
Yes, It is too bad you dont know how to use google. Now I pity your ignorance. Try googling "Christians killed by Muslims in the US". Of course it goes much higher when you look at muslim->Christian converts, or the bickering between mormons and Christians but those are all speculation.
Oops, I mean unprovable not improvable...damn spell check.
No I wasn't implying that as an atheist you have no moral compass, bit of a catchphrase I used there. But people tend to vote for the individuals who are in line with their thought processes, Christian leaders have proven to be effective and caring. There isn't much precedent for other leaders so we stick with what we know.
My beef with atheists (not agnostics), is the simple concept that they are ruling out all possibility for Diety, something that is improvable. I respect the agnostic "I don't know but I don't preclude possibility", but the atheist is believing something just as 'irrational' as the people they oppose on the same grounds. Even the atheist response to Pascal's wager takes into consideration that there may be a God. However, it has been my experience that depending on the athiest or christian, it depends on the person's personality and character, I have seen some very immoral Christians and very moral athiests.
Yes we are still a christian nation for the most part but people are working very hard to get freedom from religion. www.ffrf.org Our nation was founded using Christian principles and it worked really well. We have a lot of very progressive groups working to undo that.
As for Christians being killed for their faith every day, I'm going to have to go with 'You're delusional' on that one, sorry
believe what you want on this one, whereas in the US we don't see as high of a death toll, the world begs to differ, google "Christians Killed", or "Christian Persecution". Or just do some research on Sudan.
Since there are no metrics for slashdot Generalizations are acceptable. But I have spent time noting posts regarding people responding positively to Christian posts vs negatively and the positives are far outweighed by the negatives. Conversely, Mentions of Buddhists are largely positive. How do I measure? In a charged debate I do searches for keywords and check the replies and mods. So yes you could consider it a generalization, but an informed one.
Depending on your faith, how many followers are killed every year for their beliefs? 'google' Christians killed, oh yea, we aren't persecuted at all.
Yes, it was a whiny post, but there is only so much of a beating you put a foot down, if that is whining then so be it.
Oddly enough, the mod up actually proves a point, along with the several posts agreeing responding to this thread
Yes a presidential candidate who isn't christian will have a hard time being elected because a large part of the voting block has a moral compass. If history is an indicator non-religious folk don't do all too well as political leaders.
Just because someone is in the majority doesn't mean they don't receive persecution.
Truth does not require intelligence, many idiots refuse to walk off the edge of a cliff for they know they will fall to their deaths. Many people believe in the Deity of Christ and are stupid as well. However, there are subsets of each that make outlandish claims about gravity and about Christ, apologetics unlike faith requires intelligence.
I can say for a fact that most Christians I know, except for the apologists, live most of their lives in fear of the "Intelligent Civilized" folk who will mock their faith at every turn. Try walking into a science department in any University and profess to be a Christian, you would be lucky to graduate. Try being a Christian Science teacher who defends the theories of evolution, you would be lucky to get the job. This is where it starts, Christians are killed around the world every day for their faith, when was the last time you saw it in the news? Christians spend billions bringing healthcare and food to the nations, when was the last time anyone talked about that? No, what you see is the rare nutballs, you never feel the need to defend a christian who is being berated in a classroom because....it is socially acceptable.
According to /.ers there is no rational in believing in any God, but it is ok to say you are part of any religion as long as it isn't one related to Judaism.
It is also rational to know without a doubt that there is no God.
On a brighter side it is good to see another rational christian on these forums and that I am not alone. Now brace yourself, my post is about to get modded into oblivion.
One can get bored of Starcraft? Who knew....I still play on a regular basis.
Wow, flame much?
As well you have to generate a new Identifier for WSUS, and a number of other situations. I wonder if he is just referring to the machine sid, as when you join a domain you sid changes...