"Customers" are not people who don't repeat buy. The '98 biggots were people who purchased one piece of hardware and cling to it for 10 years out of fear of change. They keep the market from evolving by forcing legacy support. These types of people are leeches on the tech society, profit loss customers, if anything, where supporting them costs 10x the margin earned on product. Those are "Customers" I don't want and never will.
Customers buy when appropriate, upgrade to stay productive and on top, they adapt to new technologies quickly and buy my well created product often.
How did this get modded funny? The man speaks the truth, of course my theory is that most./ don't remember NT SP6 let alone SP1. Either a-because they werent in the tech field at the time, or b-were green screen users who could care less.
As I have ranted about on here before, Same thing happened with 2000sp1 all the win98 biggots complained about their legacy devices not working and their games not playing right...booohooo.
took me a long time to see that social skills are the MOST IMPORTANT part of any project.
Recently we just hired a contractor, I remember one of the contractors that interviewed knew PHP like the back of his hand and he made that apparent. However, I elected for the guy who knew a little less and was much more patient in the interview. Projects get hung up way too much on miscommunication as it is.
I may not be able to recite the OSI 7 layer model for networking but I know the general layout and can explain projects to management easily, this makes me a great employee. However, the caveat is that some people know what they are doing in security but tend to be a little less "well spoken" and get put in charge of it. When it comes to security I definitely would lean more on the jerk who knows too much than the guy who is really nice about it...as long as the jerk is under the management of someone who can reign them in.
As for putting people in boxes....unfortunately this is something as programmers and Admins we have to deal with. It has been my interpretation that Programmers and Admins are a bit more analytical than other departments, not saying that other departments aren't smart, they just don't understand scope the same way. Everyone else sees IT, they don't distinguish between social and antisocial, Developers vs Designers, or for that matter Network Admins and.NET devs. We are just computer people who have a hard time communicating.
But back to the original topic at hand, the hiring procedures for IT are still being ironed out, there are a lot of untrained people from the 90s in IT management positions and they will tend to hire people like themselves. So it will be a while before IT becomes a pro organization, basically when those of us with a BS or BA in the area become management in our 40s and 50s even then it will take another 10-20 years for their hiring policies to take effect.
The Install DVD for Leopard is an OS as far as the system is concerned. Once you've booted from your the DVD, you can restore your backup, no intermediate installation necessary. You can do a bare metal install and restore your OS (for disaster recovery), or just have it restore the user accounts and data (for a new OS install, system migration, etc).
That is pretty cool.
Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking on TM or anything, I dont have the experience with it to really give it a good review, just an overview of the product. I am excited about upgrading my MAC users when the opportunity presents itself. All I am saying is that this really isn't new tech, Retrospect does a good job of this, bare metal backups, client side configurable console, etc etc. I think what it is going to come down to is that TM is available to non business PCs. With shadow copy I am only interested in it from a network standpoint, haven't played with it on a stand alone vista box yet, all my boxes are connected to DCs.
Historically, Apple has put out far more polished products than MS, I think from what you have said, the only thing missing from time machine is the ability to create a historical data section on the hard drive, much like shadow copy does, for users who don't have backup drives. But then again maybe apple is just encouraging good habits, now if they could just encourage people to rotate backups off site:)
"or they use slashdot to proxy their luser abuse:-)"
Ok that made me chuckle:)
In all seriousness there is problems on both ends with age discrimination. I am on the younger side being in the 25-35 age bracket so I sympathize more with my baby brethren. But I notice that colleagues of mine were always getting passed over for promotions even though their resume had more years of experience and plenty of knowledge to back it up (knowledge does not make you good at your job of course). But it could also be that it was more that at the time I was working for the state and it would be interesting to me to see average age at state agencies as compared to private sector. There just seems to be a warm and fuzzy feeling to having someone older being promoted, maybe because people still associate maturity/wisdom with age.
"from any particular issue since the configuration of how and when it copies what and how it chooses to delete old versions is a mystery."
This is completely customizable actually, I have all my shadow copies set up on my network to work on defined intervals by me.
Time machine, while being interesting and a definate bonus for OSX is only available with a external drive that I am aware of, if one were to take that path, why not just buy Retrospect? maybe I will feel different when I actually play with Time Machine. I am assuming that with time machine that you still need to have an OS loaded before it will work.
Your statement about ethics is kind of true, but there is a large amount of age discrimination in the IT field. It mostly comes from the built in mentality that age represents experience in a field. But in young fields this is not true, however when interviewing individuals the older interviewee or the older employee will always get hired or promoted, unless they are a flat out ass.
Yes you can run on any port you want, but in his research he defined his search parameters so that the recipients of the findings of the research could interpret them. My guess is, you are in the minority in your understanding of ports, ssh over port 80? NO WAY, is a response I commonly get. Or wow, you can do VNC over port 80, that doesnt make sense....
The point here is it is a bit scary knowing that there is a lack of knowledge in the port management/security area and his findings are the numbers they are. I would say the report is accurate.
Well even if you are not handling requests through a web server, which there are some cases where this is the best option. You should do some IP restriction. In the cases where I have set up a SQL server with a port open, I restrict access to that port by only allowing MY ips to hit it. Even then just the IPs that need access, don't go overboard and allow every IP you have get to it.
I have mentioned this several times on slashdot but there is a severe lack of actual professionals in control of networks out there. I would say that there are all too many who have never even thought about security at this level, they just make sure that they have control of their users and pat themselves on their back for being able to make two servers talk across a WAN.
This all derives from the misconception that you have to be 40+ to be a seasoned professional in the business world. The IT security field is a very new one relatively, some of the best security personnel are much younger than I am but never get considered because even with 5 years experience, a degree and several certifications, they are only 24 and therefore not worthy of note. (no I am not ranting about myself, I ahve a wonderful position for someone my age, but I know many IT geeks who get passed over because of their age, although no one would ever admit it.) Get the 40 year old guy who was a sociology major and did data entry for 10 years before being asked to take over NT environments. This way you get a 'seasoned' guy because he has a few more wrinkles and that makes him a better 'fit' and definitely must make him more capable.
What I dont get is how everyone seems amazed by this time machine idea. MS has been doing it for years with Shadow Copy, the exact same thing. The only difference is it wasnt integrated with the desktop until vista. But no one says a word if MS does it, where as if Apple does something it is touted a marvel.
It is just weird to me that on/. of all places no one has mentioned that MS has been doing this, must be for fear of retaliation from the linux geeks.
Your post proves nothing. Evidentially you dont understand Computing technoligies and advances. Of course the original poster was meant to say, in Computer Science nothing new has been invented since 1970. All the tech is the same, what we are doing with it is changing.
Heck I am running Current -3 and still kicking ass. I have an athlon 2200XP running at 2.6GHz a Gig of Ram, and a NVIDIA 6800 512 that I bought a while ago. I recently retired the PC to a server but up to that point it played every game I owned, eg Wow, BF2042, and a series of other FPS's that I love without a hitch. Not to mention I did video rendering with pinnnacle studio and AutoGK (now that took a while but worked fine).
I may upgrade in the next couple years, but I am a mobile user now, unfortunately that means I am out of the custom market, but I bought a Aurora 9700 for just that purpose, I can run penetration software on my network and frag at the same time;) But at 3K for a laptop you are in a different game.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong here, but who taught you that hard drives calculate in base 10? The HD manufacturers use Base 10 because it is easier to understand by the user. However, it is misleading for Joe 6 pack who, upon installing their hard drive only sees the "Real computable number". Standards are not base 10 in the industry, Go out and buy some RAM see if you can find 1000MB sticks, they are always labeled correctly even though the MOBO may steal some for video and the OS will report less than is there.
I wouldnt call the base ten method a standard, it is more of a widely spread misconception.
If they were at home, why would they VPN to a network to get around the firewall? Said person would be allowed in, simple switch in the rules, would take less time than sipping coffee. Of course, what company has a tech that works from home? In my experience, techs are individuals that work hands on, I cannot think of any instance a tech would be allowed to work from home. A server admin, yes, developers, yes. Heck even an analyst applying patches could work from home if sick, but I cannot think of anyplace that would allow a tech to work from home.
hmmm, what about a fear of the unknown, the place I used to work posted a message saying the administrator has been alerted of the activity, nothing breeds fear like 1984:)
Your firewall should allow for rule schedules, obviously there is no need for you "techs" to vpn during work hours unless they are in the field. Or just disable VPN from behind the NAT. From one natzi admin to another the IT staff will always be your worst customers at policy compliance.
Because if you are a good admin, the use is incapable of violating your policies. Outbound port locks, packet monitoring, AD policies....ahhhh to be a natzi but who has that kind of time;)
crap, hope you read this AC, is the 32bit disabled in any way? I am using my MSN library to play with it and was going to load 2008 x64 but if I dont have to do a rebuild to test then that would be fantastic.
I remember having this same conversation with a win 98 user when win 2000 came out, that made me sad too. And due to that dumbass mentality we saw the most hideous creation of all time, the OS's name who I shan't mention here, there are children reading after all. Vista does have its benefits, server 2008 has major benefits. But to say you will never load it? That is just assinine, you are either senile or too green to know better. The exception to this is Linux geeks. Even they are forced to play with MS in their shops, and know better than anyone to stay up to date with MS.
I haven't used Vista or Server 2008 (and I never will)
Sorry I gotta ask, are you a Linux/Unix user? Or are you just one of those people who hate change and hold on to an OS like '98 forcing the rest of us to double our security standards against the "windows 98 subborness" mentality.
So I can sleep better I am going to assume you are a Linux/Unix user and there fore have no need for silly things like vista, unless you are a syadmin and have to manage an enterprise environment:)
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Customers buy when appropriate, upgrade to stay productive and on top, they adapt to new technologies quickly and buy my well created product often.
LOL, ahhh, memories....
As I have ranted about on here before, Same thing happened with 2000sp1 all the win98 biggots complained about their legacy devices not working and their games not playing right...booohooo.
Or did anyone else have the vision of a giant slingshot for the launch?
LOL, best quote of the day. You get a friend modifier for that one.
Recently we just hired a contractor, I remember one of the contractors that interviewed knew PHP like the back of his hand and he made that apparent. However, I elected for the guy who knew a little less and was much more patient in the interview. Projects get hung up way too much on miscommunication as it is.
I may not be able to recite the OSI 7 layer model for networking but I know the general layout and can explain projects to management easily, this makes me a great employee. However, the caveat is that some people know what they are doing in security but tend to be a little less "well spoken" and get put in charge of it. When it comes to security I definitely would lean more on the jerk who knows too much than the guy who is really nice about it...as long as the jerk is under the management of someone who can reign them in.
As for putting people in boxes....unfortunately this is something as programmers and Admins we have to deal with. It has been my interpretation that Programmers and Admins are a bit more analytical than other departments, not saying that other departments aren't smart, they just don't understand scope the same way. Everyone else sees IT, they don't distinguish between social and antisocial, Developers vs Designers, or for that matter Network Admins and .NET devs. We are just computer people who have a hard time communicating.
But back to the original topic at hand, the hiring procedures for IT are still being ironed out, there are a lot of untrained people from the 90s in IT management positions and they will tend to hire people like themselves. So it will be a while before IT becomes a pro organization, basically when those of us with a BS or BA in the area become management in our 40s and 50s even then it will take another 10-20 years for their hiring policies to take effect.
That is pretty cool.
Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking on TM or anything, I dont have the experience with it to really give it a good review, just an overview of the product. I am excited about upgrading my MAC users when the opportunity presents itself. All I am saying is that this really isn't new tech, Retrospect does a good job of this, bare metal backups, client side configurable console, etc etc. I think what it is going to come down to is that TM is available to non business PCs. With shadow copy I am only interested in it from a network standpoint, haven't played with it on a stand alone vista box yet, all my boxes are connected to DCs.
Historically, Apple has put out far more polished products than MS, I think from what you have said, the only thing missing from time machine is the ability to create a historical data section on the hard drive, much like shadow copy does, for users who don't have backup drives. But then again maybe apple is just encouraging good habits, now if they could just encourage people to rotate backups off site :)
Ok that made me chuckle :)
In all seriousness there is problems on both ends with age discrimination. I am on the younger side being in the 25-35 age bracket so I sympathize more with my baby brethren. But I notice that colleagues of mine were always getting passed over for promotions even though their resume had more years of experience and plenty of knowledge to back it up (knowledge does not make you good at your job of course). But it could also be that it was more that at the time I was working for the state and it would be interesting to me to see average age at state agencies as compared to private sector. There just seems to be a warm and fuzzy feeling to having someone older being promoted, maybe because people still associate maturity/wisdom with age.
This is completely customizable actually, I have all my shadow copies set up on my network to work on defined intervals by me.
Time machine, while being interesting and a definate bonus for OSX is only available with a external drive that I am aware of, if one were to take that path, why not just buy Retrospect? maybe I will feel different when I actually play with Time Machine. I am assuming that with time machine that you still need to have an OS loaded before it will work.
Easy to use and security never go hand in hand. It is always a battle of Ease of use vs security, you should know this.
Yes you can run on any port you want, but in his research he defined his search parameters so that the recipients of the findings of the research could interpret them. My guess is, you are in the minority in your understanding of ports, ssh over port 80? NO WAY, is a response I commonly get. Or wow, you can do VNC over port 80, that doesnt make sense....
The point here is it is a bit scary knowing that there is a lack of knowledge in the port management/security area and his findings are the numbers they are. I would say the report is accurate.
I have mentioned this several times on slashdot but there is a severe lack of actual professionals in control of networks out there. I would say that there are all too many who have never even thought about security at this level, they just make sure that they have control of their users and pat themselves on their back for being able to make two servers talk across a WAN.
This all derives from the misconception that you have to be 40+ to be a seasoned professional in the business world. The IT security field is a very new one relatively, some of the best security personnel are much younger than I am but never get considered because even with 5 years experience, a degree and several certifications, they are only 24 and therefore not worthy of note. (no I am not ranting about myself, I ahve a wonderful position for someone my age, but I know many IT geeks who get passed over because of their age, although no one would ever admit it.) Get the 40 year old guy who was a sociology major and did data entry for 10 years before being asked to take over NT environments. This way you get a 'seasoned' guy because he has a few more wrinkles and that makes him a better 'fit' and definitely must make him more capable.
It is just weird to me that on /. of all places no one has mentioned that MS has been doing this, must be for fear of retaliation from the linux geeks.
Your post proves nothing. Evidentially you dont understand Computing technoligies and advances. Of course the original poster was meant to say, in Computer Science nothing new has been invented since 1970. All the tech is the same, what we are doing with it is changing.
I may upgrade in the next couple years, but I am a mobile user now, unfortunately that means I am out of the custom market, but I bought a Aurora 9700 for just that purpose, I can run penetration software on my network and frag at the same time ;) But at 3K for a laptop you are in a different game.
I wouldnt call the base ten method a standard, it is more of a widely spread misconception.
And of course the time window is moot because someone could just set up the routes in their network to deny VPN from internal addresses.....
If they were at home, why would they VPN to a network to get around the firewall? Said person would be allowed in, simple switch in the rules, would take less time than sipping coffee. Of course, what company has a tech that works from home? In my experience, techs are individuals that work hands on, I cannot think of any instance a tech would be allowed to work from home. A server admin, yes, developers, yes. Heck even an analyst applying patches could work from home if sick, but I cannot think of anyplace that would allow a tech to work from home.
hmmm, what about a fear of the unknown, the place I used to work posted a message saying the administrator has been alerted of the activity, nothing breeds fear like 1984 :)
Your firewall should allow for rule schedules, obviously there is no need for you "techs" to vpn during work hours unless they are in the field. Or just disable VPN from behind the NAT. From one natzi admin to another the IT staff will always be your worst customers at policy compliance.
Because if you are a good admin, the use is incapable of violating your policies. Outbound port locks, packet monitoring, AD policies....ahhhh to be a natzi but who has that kind of time ;)
Ya, because running Shadow Copy on server 2003 at a quarter the price just isn't worth it.......
crap, hope you read this AC, is the 32bit disabled in any way? I am using my MSN library to play with it and was going to load 2008 x64 but if I dont have to do a rebuild to test then that would be fantastic.
I remember having this same conversation with a win 98 user when win 2000 came out, that made me sad too. And due to that dumbass mentality we saw the most hideous creation of all time, the OS's name who I shan't mention here, there are children reading after all. Vista does have its benefits, server 2008 has major benefits. But to say you will never load it? That is just assinine, you are either senile or too green to know better. The exception to this is Linux geeks. Even they are forced to play with MS in their shops, and know better than anyone to stay up to date with MS.
Sorry I gotta ask, are you a Linux/Unix user? Or are you just one of those people who hate change and hold on to an OS like '98 forcing the rest of us to double our security standards against the "windows 98 subborness" mentality.
So I can sleep better I am going to assume you are a Linux/Unix user and there fore have no need for silly things like vista, unless you are a syadmin and have to manage an enterprise environment :)