SuSE 9.1 beta does not come with the latest Gnome (2.6) it comes with Gnome 2.4 because 2.6 was released too late to make it into SuSE 9.1 beta. However, Gnome 2.6 will likely be available from SuSE as a separate download.
It will certainly be available with the Ximian Red Carpet installer. It might also be available as a set of rpms somewhere on their ftp site, I suspect they'll move away from that though, now that Ximian is part of the family.
Space defense has all the appearance of a Maginot line. Its very expensive to build and very easy to defeat, especially in an age of asymmetric warfare. When the most devastating attack in U.S. history was done with civilian airlines explain to me the value of fixating on missile defense.
There are still nations with ICBMs, and the number of nations is growing. If missile defense was ever a valid answer to that, it's still going to be a valid answer even if terrorists are hijacking airplanes.
How about: stop giving sanction to slavemasters by volunteering yourself as a slave. Stop participating in the aspects of society you find abbhorent or wrong.
Most people will patently reject this solution. Either the ideal is too precious to give up in the face of harsh reality, the person has mired themselves in debt and this is not an option, or they fear peer pressure from family and friends. But those are personal problems.
"Don't work" isn't exactly an option for most people, and not because of peer pressure or debt.
I thought that the reason Nissan, Mercedes, Toyota, Honda and Hyundai have factories here is because the duties (import taxes) on automobiles were insanely high (most likely due to "what's good for GM is good for the country").
You were wrong, they aren't. We've got a lot less flexibility to go crazy with tariffs now that we're in the WTO.
If it weren't for those taxes, they would probably have factories elsewhere in the world (where unskilled labor is cheaper).
Building cars isn't entirely unskilled labor. But there IS a political reason for building the cars here, it's appeasement for those who only buy cars made in the United States.
Admittedly, this probably would cause economic problems for a few decades as things sorted themselves into their proper order (Ain't capitalism grand), but in the end the most efficient order would be created.
That seems to be where we're headed. Of course the big problem is to protect people whose jobs are eliminated in the process. "Wait twenty years, things will get better" is not going to fly.
There is a flock of developers, usually from the MAC/Win crowd, who believe that good user interfaces must necessarily be graphical. This is completely untrue.
I agree, but unfortunately there aren't any good counterexamples in the open source world. All the horrifyingly bad curses-based crapola in a distro like Debian, for example, is only going to serve to reinforce the notion that a GUI is necessary.
How do I feel? Like I'm stuck in a bad Christopher Lambert movie.
Personally, I don't care much about the fingerprinting requirement. I also understand why Americans don't see what the fuss is about. However, where I am from (Russia), you're only fingerprinted if you're charged with a crime. This is also the case for many other countries, I understand. Thus, many visitors perceive fingerprinting as an expression of suspicion that they are criminals; not being criminals, they don't like to be treated as ones.
Back when America was a free country, only criminals were fingerprinted, as you are used to. But we've made progress you see.
No, they don't. You just misunderstood my use. By run-time, I was referring to the OS itself. You have to buy a license to be able to use Windows. That's the lowest denominator. If you are trying to build a network, you also need liceses to access the servers, etc, etc.
I'd rather get all this for free by using Linux/Open Source and pay Trolltech for Qt development licenses than pay Microsoft for stuff which is mediocre at best.
Ahhhh... dogma. And here I thought we were talking about development tools.
Every place I've ever seen that does commercial development for Windows uses Visual Studio for development.
Yeah, but they don't have to. And Visual Studio Professional is a lot cheaper per seat than Qt.
We are just splitting hairs here, but if a company is serious about using open tools to do development work on Windows, they'd be further ahead to pay the reasonable fees to trolltech and could write code to target Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows.
Only if they need something that Qt offers but the other, genuinely free, toolkits do not offer. I don't concede that the fees are "reasonable," though.
You may in fact be more free under a license such as the QPL than you would be under LGPL'd GTK and wx.
How is "free to GPL your program or pay huge per-seat developer fees, your choice" any freer than "free to do whatever you want"?
If you develop a Microsoft solution, the the consumer has to pay for Windows licenses and the developer has to pay for Windows licenses and likely Visual Studio licenses as well (though this isn't strictly necessary).
It's not necessary at all. There are a lot of good free-software development tools for the Windows platform. As for the cost of windows, when you're making a windows app your target audience already has that...
By the way, you are entirely free to develop with Qt without paying any royalties or super-expensive tools as well.
"Use the GPL for your project or pay us thousands of dollars" is hardly free. By contrast, in my view GTK+ and wxWidgets are free.
It's not a lot of cash, but it's sort of tough to compete with a robust, free product.(i.e. GTK)
It's a whole lot of cash if you're a shareware author. Granted, Linux doesn't tend to have a lot of shareware, since everybody concerned knows that people won't pay for it.
The only potential problem I see is Trolltech's insistance on license fees for commercial development. Not that this is any different in the Windows world
It is entirely different in the Windows world. You can use win32, MFC, or.NET without any royalties or super-expensive tools.
Probably because the last agreement was under a confidentiality clause, and McBride or another SCO cronie released some of the 'confidential' terms of the agreement.
I don't know the terms of their agreement but I suspect it only involved the amount EV1 spent, or else SCO breached the contract in a really obvious way. If I'm right then EV1 really ought to have pushed for something stricter, to keep the whole thing quiet. Or less strict, so they'd be able to disclose how much they spent (since it's probably less than the $1 million reported).
Living in Satellite Beach, Florida, it isn't hard to guess where my vote is going! It's too bad Governor Jeb Bush isn't putting much effort into lobbying for Florida though other efforts may be under way.
Just get Diebold involved and I'm sure things will go Jeb's way.
I'm sorry, but what is it with some people simply ignoring half of a law or amendment when it suits their purposes? Based on what he posted, the National Guard is pretty prominently mentioned.
Somehow I doubt that the ACLU is going to come to the defense of an able-bodied 17 year old demanding his right to keep and bear arms on the constitutional basis that he's a member of the militia. But, legally, he is- that's that the second amendment actually says, instead of what you'd like it to say.
Based on what you've posted above, he's only a member of the militia if he's a member of the National Guard, or has declared an intention to join the National Guard. Even the ACLU would not argue that the 2nd amendment is limited to such individuals.
The problem is that YAST has been going downhill ever since Rolf Schilling left the project. Now they have to GPL it to get development going again. It was a great AI1 tool once but it has languished for at least a couple years now.
I don't know what a rolf is but Yast has gotten better with each release.
While i do contribute, i much prefer the request for donations, then having to pay for something with out a choice.
I predict that your outlook on this issue will change completely when you stop living in your parents' basement and begin interacting with the outside world, where you have to pay for things.
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It will certainly be available with the Ximian Red Carpet installer. It might also be available as a set of rpms somewhere on their ftp site, I suspect they'll move away from that though, now that Ximian is part of the family.
I'd really have to wonder how you define "software developer." Or else I'm in totally the wrong business...
There are still nations with ICBMs, and the number of nations is growing. If missile defense was ever a valid answer to that, it's still going to be a valid answer even if terrorists are hijacking airplanes.
"Don't work" isn't exactly an option for most people, and not because of peer pressure or debt.
You were wrong, they aren't. We've got a lot less flexibility to go crazy with tariffs now that we're in the WTO.
Building cars isn't entirely unskilled labor. But there IS a political reason for building the cars here, it's appeasement for those who only buy cars made in the United States.
That seems to be where we're headed. Of course the big problem is to protect people whose jobs are eliminated in the process. "Wait twenty years, things will get better" is not going to fly.
If you have to pay $200/year to keep from being cheated $20 a week, it kind of works out, doesn't it?
I agree, but unfortunately there aren't any good counterexamples in the open source world. All the horrifyingly bad curses-based crapola in a distro like Debian, for example, is only going to serve to reinforce the notion that a GUI is necessary.
Is there any other kind?
All amendments in the US constitution apply to the US federal government. The US constitution is just wacky that way.
I'm not sure if that amendment is relevant to the question of an alien's rights, though.
Back when America was a free country, only criminals were fingerprinted, as you are used to. But we've made progress you see.
Ahhhh... dogma. And here I thought we were talking about development tools.
I don't believe Microsoft charges any runtime fees on stuff developed with Visual Studio. Maybe there are exceptions to this?
Yeah, but they don't have to. And Visual Studio Professional is a lot cheaper per seat than Qt.
Only if they need something that Qt offers but the other, genuinely free, toolkits do not offer. I don't concede that the fees are "reasonable," though.
How is "free to GPL your program or pay huge per-seat developer fees, your choice" any freer than "free to do whatever you want"?
It's not necessary at all. There are a lot of good free-software development tools for the Windows platform. As for the cost of windows, when you're making a windows app your target audience already has that...
"Use the GPL for your project or pay us thousands of dollars" is hardly free. By contrast, in my view GTK+ and wxWidgets are free.
It's a whole lot of cash if you're a shareware author. Granted, Linux doesn't tend to have a lot of shareware, since everybody concerned knows that people won't pay for it.
It is entirely different in the Windows world. You can use win32, MFC, or
I don't know the terms of their agreement but I suspect it only involved the amount EV1 spent, or else SCO breached the contract in a really obvious way. If I'm right then EV1 really ought to have pushed for something stricter, to keep the whole thing quiet. Or less strict, so they'd be able to disclose how much they spent (since it's probably less than the $1 million reported).
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With a strict confidentiality clause, why not? I'm not advocating that, but it at least seems possible.
Just get Diebold involved and I'm sure things will go Jeb's way.
Mindfucked!!!
I'm sorry, but what is it with some people simply ignoring half of a law or amendment when it suits their purposes? Based on what he posted, the National Guard is pretty prominently mentioned.
Based on what you've posted above, he's only a member of the militia if he's a member of the National Guard, or has declared an intention to join the National Guard. Even the ACLU would not argue that the 2nd amendment is limited to such individuals.
I don't know what a rolf is but Yast has gotten better with each release.
Just because the license annoys you doesn't mean it's not open source.
I predict that your outlook on this issue will change completely when you stop living in your parents' basement and begin interacting with the outside world, where you have to pay for things.