Oh, before anyone brings up pre-60s Southern U.S. segregation as a counter-example, those were laws as well, and IMO worse than laws requiring unqualified admittance.
Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say here. It's okay for store or restaurant owners (for example) to kick out minorities for no reason, "gtfo we don't serve niggers here." It's only wrong when the government does it?
Glad I'm not living in your world. I do have to wonder how you justify this to yourself, though, on a psychological level.
If members of the community don't like the admittance policy, then they can boycott the establishment.
It's rare that a minority can boycott anything effectively enough to have an economic impact. Although I suppose in a twisted, angry AM-radio listener sort of way, you can view being kicked out of a place because of your race as "boycotting," since you're not going to be spending your money there.
The GPL is very clear: In order for another license to be compatible, it must not place restrictions on users or developers above or beyond those of the GPL. The advertising clause does so.
This is a completely circular argument.
"The GPL specifies this, doing otherwise would be doing something other than what the GPL specifies." Well, yeah...
Everyone who uses iChat, stop what you are doing and go fill out a bug request form on Apple's developer site (http://developer.apple.com).
I'm going to go fill my request right now.
Right, flood their bug database with identical requests that someone will have to go through and delete... once the slashdot effect has worn off and they can use the database again. You've identified a really great way to win their developers over to your point of view.
Apple might be doing the mozilla thing and refusing connections into the database which are referred from slashdot. Of course, you've sort of encouraged circumvention of that by not using the URL tag. People will paste or type the address and so the referrer header won't include slashdot.org. Good job.
The complaint I've always had was pretty much unrelated to info itself. The whole notion of putting a message in a man page to the effect that it's just a placeholder and the user really ought to be using info if they want to find what they are looking for is basically akin to telling users to go fuck themselves. At least it sure feels that way when you're trying to get help from the machine...
Add in a few whiny, clueless geek justifications for this user-hostile behavior and Linux folks certainly send many a user scampering back to Microsoft, with good reason.
The Dems have handled this brilliantly. They have completely turned the focus of this from the contents of the pilfered material to the act of pilfering itself.
Right. Why should any of us worry about criminal behavior when we can worry about crass behavior?
I don't support what the dems did to Estrada but... Christ...
Well, sure, anybody can point out the obvious "if you have a crack in your house" stuff, but the idea is still valid. So, don't go pulling out pivnert from 10th grade chemistry and using that as your basis for second-guessing an illustrative statement.
Actually it's not a good illustrative statement, it's pretty crappy.
1. The candle would be entirely unnecessary: body heat would do just fine. 2. In some "physicsland" example where people don't need to breathe and completely restricting airflow in and out of the house is okay, the aerojel is pretty serious overkill. More conventional stuff would do just fine.
So how is the statement illustrative in a useful way?
And you have to love the bit about whether the agents had "guns drawn" when he opened the door. There's nothing to suggest they actually did - but by tossing the reference in there, the FBI sounds much more menacing, don't they?
Since they had their guns drawn when they approached his roomate it's not exactly an absurd assumption. Perhaps you didn't read that far.
The rather important difference is that Next and the various MacOS incarnations have both been targeted at a common community with a lot of interest in usability. In this case the popular opinion of that community has some meaning, I think.
Well what's the problem with all of this? Think back into the history books for me a little bit here. At what point in America's history did we see an ever pressing economic turmoil because of extremely low cost labor? Was it, ohhh yes the bloodiest battle costing more American lives than any other war in our history?
More lives than all the other wars in our history combined, actually.
Nice thought, but too much vibration from people moving around, machinery, etc. Also the ISS has too much mass to easily move around for basic attitude control of the scope.
ISS also uses gyroscopes for all its attitude control so the vibration problems would be pretty constant. It's in a pretty low orbit, which also seems less than ideal.
The truth is, you are a thousand times more likely to die driving to the store to buy your fruits and veges than you are to die from the trace amounts of pesticides on the food.
If the probability is actually 1000/1, you are actually making the case that people ought to worry about this. A _lot_ of people die in car accidents, and even a thousandth that amount is pretty significant.
Bullshit. A monitor is never useless. You can always go multimonitor on win98 and up and with X. There is no reason someone wouldn't want a monitor.
There are a few rather obvious reasons: 1. Desk space 2. Don't need it 3. The monitor is low-quality crap - and most monitors are, frankly, even when they're new
In any case, a lot of people are very happy with one monitor, thanks.
They're also fine for all sorts of classroom uses that don't demand heavy computations. This would include things like doing word processing with AbiWord (Not sure about Open Office, though -- haven't tried it)
Yeah, there's a really huge demand among educators for computers that can barely run AbiWord, provided you use a skeletal desktop environment that doesn't suck up whatever meager resources the machine has. Teachers are clamoring for that shit.
"If so, find the moron responsible for signing such a contract, and slap him/her silly."
More like identify the morons who are responsible and vote them out of office.
Since you're probably talking about a local school board, it's more like: 1. Convince the local voters this is actually a problem 2. Convince the local voters they should replace all the school board members they voted in over some trivial software crap
Well, thats a business decision. Do you trust those specs enough? Or "just to be safe" do you want to pay microsoft for their guaranteed implementation?
Who in the US administration actually stated that the US opposed a French site because of their opposition to the war in Iraq? What does this have to do with Iraq!? Wouldn't France be the obvious choice? The French have the most experience, e.g. keeping a whole country full of fission reactors humming along.
I wonder how many hours you'd have to beat any U.S. policymaker to get them to admit that.
Search on "Diebold" at news.google.com and you'll see a fairly decent number of mainstream outlets with this news. It's rarely on the front page, of course.
windows xp can be turned into windows2000 in a few mouse clicks
Really? Then tell me how to make the "zip folders" feature in windows explorer well and truly go away. I've got it MOSTLY DEAD using the common instructions but it still crops up occasionally, slowing down the whole show.
As far as tech support, simply stick to your guns and don't provide any.
You've missed the point. The poster considers that adhering to this policy will cause more ill will among patrons than good will, and the overall effect of the program will be negative.
In addition to the question of goodwill, the overall material effect might be negative, if you're just giving patrons a tool to wipe out their computers. Support needs to accompany this sort of thing, which is why it's better handled by the local LUG.
Your argument is, to prevent the unsatisfied patrons who could not make it work because of their own problems, you simply stop circulating the CD-ROMs. This is an excuse for laziness.
Bah. Spoken like someone who has never been responsible for budgeting their time, let alone the time of an entire staff.
Keep in mind, the people solving these problems are getting paid by the hour, and there is a real cost associated with spending time on these things. With budget cutbacks affecting libraries around the country, the logical course is to refer patrons to the local LUG, which is better equipped for this sort of thing and can do the job a lot more effectively.
The practical course is to have a spindle of giveaways at the door, with the meeting time and place of the LUG on the label. "If you desire free assistance installing this software, bring your computer to..."
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Let me see if I understand what you're trying to say here. It's okay for store or restaurant owners (for example) to kick out minorities for no reason, "gtfo we don't serve niggers here." It's only wrong when the government does it?
Glad I'm not living in your world. I do have to wonder how you justify this to yourself, though, on a psychological level.
It's rare that a minority can boycott anything effectively enough to have an economic impact. Although I suppose in a twisted, angry AM-radio listener sort of way, you can view being kicked out of a place because of your race as "boycotting," since you're not going to be spending your money there.
Personally I'm glad we have laws instead.
This is a completely circular argument.
"The GPL specifies this, doing otherwise would be doing something other than what the GPL specifies." Well, yeah...
Right, flood their bug database with identical requests that someone will have to go through and delete... once the slashdot effect has worn off and they can use the database again. You've identified a really great way to win their developers over to your point of view.
Apple might be doing the mozilla thing and refusing connections into the database which are referred from slashdot. Of course, you've sort of encouraged circumvention of that by not using the URL tag. People will paste or type the address and so the referrer header won't include slashdot.org. Good job.
The complaint I've always had was pretty much unrelated to info itself. The whole notion of putting a message in a man page to the effect that it's just a placeholder and the user really ought to be using info if they want to find what they are looking for is basically akin to telling users to go fuck themselves. At least it sure feels that way when you're trying to get help from the machine...
Add in a few whiny, clueless geek justifications for this user-hostile behavior and Linux folks certainly send many a user scampering back to Microsoft, with good reason.
Right. Why should any of us worry about criminal behavior when we can worry about crass behavior?
I don't support what the dems did to Estrada but... Christ...
It would be infinitely more useful to simply post the link where you got that information. Thanks!
Actually it's not a good illustrative statement, it's pretty crappy.
1. The candle would be entirely unnecessary: body heat would do just fine.
2. In some "physicsland" example where people don't need to breathe and completely restricting airflow in and out of the house is okay, the aerojel is pretty serious overkill. More conventional stuff would do just fine.
So how is the statement illustrative in a useful way?
Since they had their guns drawn when they approached his roomate it's not exactly an absurd assumption. Perhaps you didn't read that far.
The rather important difference is that Next and the various MacOS incarnations have both been targeted at a common community with a lot of interest in usability. In this case the popular opinion of that community has some meaning, I think.
Right. Which is why Next was such a commercial and popular success and the Mac... wait...
How much moral outrage can a project which has stolen other people's codecs in the past really muster? Ah, hypocrisy.
More lives than all the other wars in our history combined, actually.
ISS also uses gyroscopes for all its attitude control so the vibration problems would be pretty constant. It's in a pretty low orbit, which also seems less than ideal.
If the probability is actually 1000/1, you are actually making the case that people ought to worry about this. A _lot_ of people die in car accidents, and even a thousandth that amount is pretty significant.
There are a few rather obvious reasons:
1. Desk space
2. Don't need it
3. The monitor is low-quality crap - and most monitors are, frankly, even when they're new
In any case, a lot of people are very happy with one monitor, thanks.
Yeah, there's a really huge demand among educators for computers that can barely run AbiWord, provided you use a skeletal desktop environment that doesn't suck up whatever meager resources the machine has. Teachers are clamoring for that shit.
Since you're probably talking about a local school board, it's more like:
1. Convince the local voters this is actually a problem
2. Convince the local voters they should replace all the school board members they voted in over some trivial software crap
Good luck with that.
They're selling an implementation?
Well, coincidentally, Diebold and electronic voting was front-page news on my local paper today. (The Cleveland Plain Dealer)
I wonder how many hours you'd have to beat any U.S. policymaker to get them to admit that.
Search on "Diebold" at news.google.com and you'll see a fairly decent number of mainstream outlets with this news. It's rarely on the front page, of course.
Really? Then tell me how to make the "zip folders" feature in windows explorer well and truly go away. I've got it MOSTLY DEAD using the common instructions but it still crops up occasionally, slowing down the whole show.
You've missed the point. The poster considers that adhering to this policy will cause more ill will among patrons than good will, and the overall effect of the program will be negative.
In addition to the question of goodwill, the overall material effect might be negative, if you're just giving patrons a tool to wipe out their computers. Support needs to accompany this sort of thing, which is why it's better handled by the local LUG.
Bah. Spoken like someone who has never been responsible for budgeting their time, let alone the time of an entire staff.
Keep in mind, the people solving these problems are getting paid by the hour, and there is a real cost associated with spending time on these things. With budget cutbacks affecting libraries around the country, the logical course is to refer patrons to the local LUG, which is better equipped for this sort of thing and can do the job a lot more effectively.
The practical course is to have a spindle of giveaways at the door, with the meeting time and place of the LUG on the label. "If you desire free assistance installing this software, bring your computer to..."
Abu Nidal != Saddam. Iraq was harboring him, but if that is to be the criteria, we certainly should have attacked Saudi Arabia.