i sort of doubt the government had any involvment or knowledge of the hack. i bet it was some people hacking from.gov machines. remember folks anyone can use any machine if they have access, and cover it all up.
and if it hasnt been said enough yet,.gov is notorious for having bad security. dont go bashing innocent.gov computer nerds yet;)
"Bob could then call Alice on the telephone and tell her exactly which 25 photons he received. These would form the key for encrypting a subsequent message"
seems like a lot of trouble to go through and end up your phone conversation being overheard. i suppose with the way the filters work the "Eve" wouldn't have much luck catching the same photon's. but we all should remember your trusty telephone (especially those cordless or cellular ones) are probably a lot less secure than even the most basic form of computer encryption. people seem to forget that a lot.
tyler
Re:Very nice but reality is not so simple
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"I don't doubt that AMD can design a good K8 chip, but in order to do that, they first have to make the K7 a success."
i think k7 has done pretty good. considering the fact intel completely owned the cpu market 4 or 5 years ago. i dont know if the k7 is going to go much further than it already has. although with intel's "watermark" of their pIII chips... if im in the cpu buying mood it won't be a pIII.
SCIENCE EDUCATION: The Kansas Board of Education and the Colorado State Board of Education, for mandating that children should not believe in Darwin's theory of evolution any more than they believe in Newton's theory of gravitation, Faraday's and Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, or Pasteur's theory that germs cause disease.
thats just sick. i personally think that is insane. when i heard that kansas had done that i laughed. but now seeing it win a honorable recognition like that makes me mad. we really may be degrading as a society here. i thought we got over the whole "there is no god we are just organisms" thing years ago.
*sigh* just when you start to hope
tyler
this is what im talking about
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its so nice to see someone giving intel some real competition! now intel needs to remove that little "watermark" that is present in pIII chip in the merced chips. maybe ill consider buying a new pentium then, until then its going to be AMD for the x86 machines.
and lately everytime i think of chips g4 lingers in my mind. no matter how much you dislike macs all of us have to admit g4s make you horny. well unless you can afford a alpha heh
i like the license. especially the first new 'rule.' ive always wondered about what how the GPL would play into a case of 2 open source programmers fighting with each other for using each others stuff. i never thought it would be too big of a deal since most programmers seem to be nice guys. but its good to clear that up for future reference! hopefully this is approved, imho:)
my @home service loves linux! to use netscape just install quicktime... and uhm there isn't much tweaking required. i use suse and yast flies through the dhcp or a normal lan connection. its easy stuff.
id use lilo. its really trustworthy. to do a cheap and quick lilo install grab a linux cd and a linux boot disk, skip everything until you get to the boatloader setup. and just do it from there. SuSE is especially easy to do this with, im not even sure if you need a suse cd, just a suse boot disk. i believe by default win* does a fdisk/mbr when it installs. i used to linux/win98 dual boot this machine and everytime i reinstalled windows (about 100 times more often than linux) it did the same stuff. system commander is ok i hear for win* partitions but ive heard it isnt too linux friendly until you work at it a little.
great more point-and-click linux. i bitched about this in a previous post and i still disagree with it! maybe im afraid if all the users can slack off with "easy linux interfaces" then our future linux programmers will do! that would be horrible!
now sure i agree with the point: you can always do something in different ways, not neccisarily point-and-click.
maybe my opinion on this has to do with the fact i refuse to use X. console all the way! im just old fashioned i guess
i agree completely. i sure hope the whole broadband thing doesn't fold out like AT&T and bell back when the FCC had to break all of that up. Im sure the FCC will jump in with some competative issues because the last thing we want is AOL (or god even worse micro$oft) handling all the consumer broadband connections. it may seem sort of far fetched that one company will handle all the dsls/cable modems but we certainly must let it be heard consumer do not want that! competition means more market. because one person can do something better than the other, and get more business. this is especially essential to the whole broadband wave since some companys sort of suck at their service. and their marketting guys will eventually learn that if they want to keep a customer base then they have to improve. i was hoping that you could buy a full 10mbit connection for cablemodem/dsl prices in a few years because people will keep trying to do this whole broadband thing better than others. with mergers and one company per region this will most likely not happen. also i can garuntee if home.com merges with aol i am switching to a reliable LOCAL isp with DSL services. and i know many many many other people who would feel the same way. aol has a bad name with a TON of cablemodem users (like us slashdotters probably dont think too highly of AOL) and @home should realize this and keep their business.
hahaha i didn't know that. i wonder if they have a sign saying "dont smash into this wall or you will break the internet" and if they dont, they should.
you know this is when that annoying commercial "go for the phone and call blue stake" comes in. maybe this commercial isn't everywhere but the midwest people know what im talking about.
makes you wonder what happens if mae-east gets destroyed by some natural (or unnatural) disaster. oh how much we depend on these plastic boxes!
well its a interesting article. great technological advance, i suppose. one thing i dont like about the article is how the writer makes it sound like the fate of the world is in that thing that smashes into things. i mean seriously whos gonna launch a bomb containing the smallpox virus to anyone? thats just insane. maybe i dont think like that government does.
eventually there will probably be advances where it is possible to lauch a big missle and we won't even know its there until lets say... all of new jersey pings out.
one thing i wonder is the consequences of using this thing, in a real situation. flying missle derbis? anthrax spores floating from the sky? we will just have to wait and see
under the bomb drops, tyler
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i sort of doubt it is going to install on a FAT partition. it probably just makes the resizing of your current FAT (or whatever it may be) partition easier, and still uses Linux Native.
hell I cant get on their site either but i can garuntee "winlinux" isnt getting any room on my drives.
tyler
ive always disagreed with stuff like this...
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i think that if you are going to install linux, you've got to learn a few things. i sure as hell didn't do my first linux install as a *nix-virgin. i say spend a few weeks, maybe a month or two, on a shell. where you can learn basic commands and basic filesystem/compiling/kernel/lib/etc stuff. sure the install may be easy but when the bash~# pops up. are you gonna know what to do with it? sure books are kinda cool but you can't really learn anything unless you get some hands on experiance. im not saying this is a horrible idea, linux should be installable by anyone, without diffulculty. but it just feels like linux is going point and click, or./script. which isn't the best plan imho.
well. i live in a 'networked house.' it is a just built house that was not a modem, it is a custom house. i didn't actually build it, but i did make the network run after it was all done. im just going to explain to you what sort of neat stuff we have intergrated into this house. first off there is a vantage 'house control system.' now ive never used it but i am told you can connect a computer to the vantage computer, via cat5 cable that is sticking out of it, and program the lights/heat/ac/oven/anything electronical to do whatever you want. for example at 3:30 in the morning all of the lights except for the bedrooms turn off, because we tend to leave a lot of lights on. we dont have normal lightswitches, they are more like buttons, and they have red lights on then when they are on. now that is all pretty easy to do i suppose, just not very common. of course we have it all wired for a LAN. there are rj-45 jacks under every phone jack through-out the entire house. they all connect in a room, where the hub and gateway is. i specifically even got rj-45 jacks put in in all of the bathrooms, so phear:P now i see wiring rj-45 as common as a rj-12 phone jack to become common practice as the cablemodem/dsl wave strikes. the whole remote-control-house thing isnt gonna take off nearly as much because quite frankly, who the hell really needs it? overall, i find the vantage system a little annoying, my lights used to turn off in the middle of the night at random times, just because of glitches in the setup. it may be useful to the power bill, and the light switches are cool, but overall i feel a vantage house control type system is not neccisary. the LAN wiring is great. i totally love taking the laptop and connecting to my network anywhere in the house, and the cable situation was definetly a lot easier than it could have been. one last thing is im still trying to interface with the house control system. it is a Vantage system, i assume that is just the brand. there is a little black box with a on/off switch that says Vantage Q-Modem, and there is a cat5 cable labled Vantage connection. as far as i can tell it does nothing. obviously i dont have the right software, or possibly some sort of propietary network interface card is needed. who knows. anyone who has worked with such a system i invite you to contact me, because i want to have control of my house!
hacking the houses in utah- Tyler disc0re@home.com
reading some of the previous posts, people suggesting NT to run a webserver over linux? hah. well maybe linux isnt the _best_ OS to run on a webserver but its a hell of a lot better than NT. a NT box would require a hell of a lot of ram and probably at least a pII for a processor, that extra cache on the pII makes em nice. in my humble opinion linux should run a webserver fine on a celeron with 128 megs of ram or so. good idea to make a ramdisk for the webcam too. and might as well throw some swap space on for fun. and for god sakes use SuSE:P
well its still sort of weird hearing that compaq, what seems like a major windows propietary hardware dealer, doing some work on linux. although its fine with me, the more support linux gets the better. i hope they start putting all linux friendly hardware in their machines too. that would be sort of nice. maybe they do now a days but my old compaq doesnt like linux too much.
heh i agree. i dont even use any of the crap that comes with netscape beyond the web browser, pine for email and bitchx for irc. what else do you need? heh. we dont need any more bloatware in this great day and age. I think the netscape guys should be working on making my browser not crash every hour or so. that'd be a lot more useful.
last i heard there isn't a magical way to get into a computer via power cables or something. the box would have to be on the net. so that eliminates a bunch of boxes. second off, i dont think it quite works like what you explained. go read the article a little more careful.
oh im not neccisarily paranoid about it. i don't have too much to hide on my windows box. it's just interesting that the government wants to know what's on everyone's computers really badly for some reason, and it's obvious they are willing to go to quite excessive lenghts to get it. is that a government that should be trusted? one that can't even trust its people?
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i sort of doubt the government had any involvment or knowledge of the hack. i bet it was some people hacking from .gov machines. remember folks anyone can use any machine if they have access, and cover it all up.
.gov is notorious for having bad security. .gov computer nerds yet ;)
and if it hasnt been said enough yet,
dont go bashing innocent
tyler
heh i feel silly. :P
it was the first article i read in the morning and i wasnt quite with it
please flame me senseless!
tyler
"Bob could then call Alice on the telephone and tell her exactly which 25 photons he received. These would form the key for encrypting a subsequent message"
seems like a lot of trouble to go through and end up your phone conversation being overheard. i suppose with the way the filters work the "Eve" wouldn't have much luck catching the same photon's. but we all should remember your trusty telephone (especially those cordless or cellular ones) are probably a lot less secure than even the most basic form of computer encryption. people seem to forget that a lot.
tyler
"I don't doubt that AMD can design a good K8 chip, but in order to do that, they first have to make the K7 a success."
i think k7 has done pretty good. considering the fact intel completely owned the cpu market 4 or 5 years ago. i dont know if the k7 is going to go much further than it already has. although with intel's "watermark" of their pIII chips... if im in the cpu buying mood it won't be a pIII.
tyler
SCIENCE EDUCATION: The Kansas Board of Education and the Colorado State Board of Education, for mandating that children should not believe in
Darwin's theory of evolution any more than they believe in Newton's theory of gravitation, Faraday's and Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, or
Pasteur's theory that germs cause disease.
thats just sick. i personally think that is insane. when i heard that kansas had done that i laughed. but now seeing it win a honorable recognition like that makes me mad. we really may be degrading as a society here. i thought we got over the whole "there is no god we are just organisms" thing years ago.
*sigh* just when you start to hope
tyler
its so nice to see someone giving intel some real competition!
now intel needs to remove that little "watermark" that is present in pIII chip in the merced chips.
maybe ill consider buying a new pentium then, until then its going to be AMD for the x86 machines.
and lately everytime i think of chips g4 lingers in my mind. no matter how much you dislike macs all of us have to admit g4s make you horny. well unless you can afford a alpha heh
tyler
i like the license. especially the first new 'rule.' :)
ive always wondered about what how the GPL would play into a case of 2 open source programmers fighting with each other for using each others stuff. i never thought it would be too big of a deal since most programmers seem to be nice guys. but its good to clear that up for future reference! hopefully this is approved, imho
tyler
my @home service loves linux! to use netscape just install quicktime... and uhm there isn't much tweaking required.
:P
i use suse and yast flies through the dhcp or a normal lan connection. its easy stuff.
i guess if you need help email me
tyler@enjoy-unix.org
id use lilo. its really trustworthy. /mbr
to do a cheap and quick lilo install grab a linux cd and a linux boot disk, skip everything until you get to the boatloader setup. and just do it from there. SuSE is especially easy to do this with, im not even sure if you need a suse cd, just a suse boot disk.
i believe by default win* does a
fdisk
when it installs. i used to linux/win98 dual boot this machine and everytime i reinstalled windows (about 100 times more often than linux) it did the same stuff.
system commander is ok i hear for win* partitions but ive heard it isnt too linux friendly until you work at it a little.
great more point-and-click linux.
i bitched about this in a previous post and i still disagree with it!
maybe im afraid if all the users can slack off with "easy linux interfaces" then our future linux programmers will do! that would be horrible!
now sure i agree with the point: you can always do something in different ways, not neccisarily point-and-click.
maybe my opinion on this has to do with the fact i refuse to use X. console all the way! im just old fashioned i guess
tyler
the key to getting good support with @home is calling them at 4am on a sunday night ;)
at least they have live operators 24/7
and i seem to have the most luck with
888-824-8101
which is @home's denver tech support setup. they seem to be the less busiest!
tyler
i agree completely. i sure hope the whole broadband thing doesn't fold out like AT&T and bell back when the FCC had to break all of that up.
Im sure the FCC will jump in with some competative issues because the last thing we want is AOL (or god even worse micro$oft) handling all the consumer broadband connections. it may seem sort of far fetched that one company will handle all the dsls/cable modems but we certainly must let it be heard consumer do not want that!
competition means more market. because one person can do something better than the other, and get more business. this is especially essential to the whole broadband wave since some companys sort of suck at their service. and their marketting guys will eventually learn that if they want to keep a customer base then they have to improve.
i was hoping that you could buy a full 10mbit connection for cablemodem/dsl prices in a few years because people will keep trying to do this whole broadband thing better than others. with mergers and one company per region this will most likely not happen.
also i can garuntee if home.com merges with aol i am switching to a reliable LOCAL isp with DSL services. and i know many many many other people who would feel the same way.
aol has a bad name with a TON of cablemodem users (like us slashdotters probably dont think too highly of AOL) and @home should realize this and keep their business.
tyler
hahaha i didn't know that.
i wonder if they have a sign saying
"dont smash into this wall or you will break the internet"
and if they dont, they should.
tyler
you know this is when that annoying commercial
"go for the phone and call blue stake" comes in. maybe this commercial isn't everywhere but the midwest people know what im talking about.
makes you wonder what happens if mae-east gets destroyed by some natural (or unnatural) disaster.
oh how much we depend on these plastic boxes!
tyler
all lawyers are stupid until you are getting sued or in jail :)
tyler
well its a interesting article.
great technological advance, i suppose.
one thing i dont like about the article is how the writer makes it sound like the fate of the world is in that thing that smashes into things. i mean seriously whos gonna launch a bomb containing the smallpox virus to anyone? thats just insane.
maybe i dont think like that government does.
eventually there will probably be advances where it is possible to lauch a big missle and we won't even know its there until lets say... all of new jersey pings out.
one thing i wonder is the consequences of using this thing, in a real situation.
flying missle derbis? anthrax spores floating from the sky? we will just have to wait and see
under the bomb drops,
tyler
i sort of doubt it is going to install on a FAT partition. it probably just makes the resizing of your current FAT (or whatever it may be) partition easier, and still uses Linux Native.
hell I cant get on their site either but i can garuntee "winlinux" isnt getting any room on my drives.
tyler
i think that if you are going to install linux, you've got to learn a few things. i sure as hell didn't do my first linux install as a *nix-virgin. i say spend a few weeks, maybe a month or two, on a shell. where you can learn basic commands and basic filesystem/compiling/kernel/lib/etc stuff. sure the install may be easy but when the ./script. which isn't the best plan imho.
bash~#
pops up. are you gonna know what to do with it? sure books are kinda cool but you can't really learn anything unless you get some hands on experiance.
im not saying this is a horrible idea, linux should be installable by anyone, without diffulculty. but it just feels like linux is going point and click, or
tyler
well. i live in a 'networked house.' it is a just built house that was not a modem, it is a custom house. i didn't actually build it, but i did make the network run after it was all done. :P
im just going to explain to you what sort of neat stuff we have intergrated into this house. first off there is a vantage 'house control system.' now ive never used it but i am told you can connect a computer to the vantage computer, via cat5 cable that is sticking out of it, and program the lights/heat/ac/oven/anything electronical to do whatever you want. for example at 3:30 in the morning all of the lights except for the bedrooms turn off, because we tend to leave a lot of lights on. we dont have normal lightswitches, they are more like buttons, and they have red lights on then when they are on. now that is all pretty easy to do i suppose, just not very common.
of course we have it all wired for a LAN. there are rj-45 jacks under every phone jack through-out the entire house. they all connect in a room, where the hub and gateway is. i specifically even got rj-45 jacks put in in all of the bathrooms, so phear
now i see wiring rj-45 as common as a rj-12 phone jack to become common practice as the cablemodem/dsl wave strikes. the whole remote-control-house thing isnt gonna take off nearly as much because quite frankly, who the hell really needs it?
overall, i find the vantage system a little annoying, my lights used to turn off in the middle of the night at random times, just because of glitches in the setup. it may be useful to the power bill, and the light switches are cool, but overall i feel a vantage house control type system is not neccisary.
the LAN wiring is great. i totally love taking the laptop and connecting to my network anywhere in the house, and the cable situation was definetly a lot easier than it could have been.
one last thing is im still trying to interface with the house control system. it is a Vantage system, i assume that is just the brand. there is a little black box with a on/off switch that says Vantage Q-Modem, and there is a cat5 cable labled Vantage connection. as far as i can tell it does nothing. obviously i dont have the right software, or possibly some sort of propietary network interface card is needed. who knows. anyone who has worked with such a system i invite you to contact me, because i want to have control of my house!
hacking the houses in utah-
Tyler
disc0re@home.com
reading some of the previous posts, people suggesting NT to run a webserver over linux? hah. well maybe linux isnt the _best_ OS to run on a webserver but its a hell of a lot better than NT. a NT box would require a hell of a lot of ram and probably at least a pII for a processor, that extra cache on the pII makes em nice. in my humble opinion linux should run a webserver fine on a celeron with 128 megs of ram or so. good idea to make a ramdisk for the webcam too. and might as well throw some swap space on for fun. and for god sakes use SuSE :P
tyler
well its still sort of weird hearing that compaq, what seems like a major windows propietary hardware dealer, doing some work on linux. although its fine with me, the more support linux gets the better. i hope they start putting all linux friendly hardware in their machines too. that would be sort of nice. maybe they do now a days but my old compaq doesnt like linux too much.
heh i agree. i dont even use any of the crap that comes with netscape beyond the web browser, pine for email and bitchx for irc. what else do you need? heh. we dont need any more bloatware in this great day and age.
I think the netscape guys should be working on making my browser not crash every hour or so. that'd be a lot more useful.
Tyler
someone put a little too much crack on their cereal this morning.
last i heard there isn't a magical way to get into a computer via power cables or something. the box would have to be on the net. so that eliminates a bunch of boxes. second off, i dont think it quite works like what you explained. go read the article a little more careful.
oh im not neccisarily paranoid about it. i don't have too much to hide on my windows box. it's just interesting that the government wants to know what's on everyone's computers really badly for some reason, and it's obvious they are willing to go to quite excessive lenghts to get it. is that a government that should be trusted? one that can't even trust its people?