This is not the same thing as profiting from the crimes for which he was inprisoned. If he was going around writing books, screenplays, or giving lectures on what and how he did the things he did, then yes...that would be the same. However, he's lecuring on how to IMPROVE the information infrastructures to PREVENT people from doing the things he did.
The court could/should consider that his speaking engagements are an act of attrition.
If his probation officer/panel insist that he has to get a job in an unrelated field, even though his probation is up in two years, it's wrong.
Just because most criminals don't have the skills to get a job past flipping burgers, doesn't mean that we should penalize Mitnick because he does.
Let me make it clear that I think Mitnick is a wanker, and deserved _most_ of what he got (not all,) but limiting his freedom to speak in such a fashion is wrong, and I belive, unconstitutional.
So wait...are you saying that women _have_ to read radical feminist literature? How, my ex- girlfriend would be the first to mention that she doesn't "HAVE" to do anything.
Take a minute prior to posting in the future, and type something into the search box at the bottom of the/. homepage. I typed in Caldera and got a page full of links, including, amongst other things, a version release story.
Not a flame, just trying to point out that your observation is incorrect.
I've never posted one of these, and this is an honest question: why is this posted to slashdot? Not quite what I consider "news for nerds," but I admit that is only my opinion, and I'm often wrong.
It depends. If someone has little real world experience, I do not necessarily disregard them off handedly. Instead, I chat with them for a while to get a feel for their level of understanding. I am a BIG believer that there is an "it" that some people get, and some don't. It's the difference between someone who goes and gets a certification, but doesn't understand what they're being taught, and someone who has an instinctual perception of the way things should work.
When I find someone who gets "it" I try to hire them for something, even if I have to create a position. These people are rare, so if I have to spend time training someone in the details, but end up with a very talented engineer, then I do it without question.
For example, I ended up chatting with the bar manager at our local watering hole. He was actually into Linux a little bit, and had been hacking (although he didn't know it.) I had a position for a jr. system admin which didn't really need that much in the way of skill set. A year and a half later, he's now one of my more compentent system engineers.
For those who get it, everything else is just details. So, would I blow you off if you didn't have any real world experience, but may, or may not have a certification, no... I would talk to you for a bit, to get a feeling for your level of understanding of the "way." If you get it, then you're as good as hired, in my book. If you don't, then, maybe.
Grr...If you didn't prepare for y2k by checking your code, and that of your vendors, then have the guts to leave it up and watch what happens! Putting your head in the sand, then saying "just in case, we're taking our site down..." is worthless, and does nothing to inspire consumer confidence.
Now, if you _did_ prepare, then you should KNOW that you're fine, and again...there is no reason to take your site down.
Personally, the malfunctions that we're going to see are going to be few and far between, and probably 90+% of them are not going to show up on the roll over anyways!
People are sad. I'm glad I'm only going to see one of these stupid things.
SOB! Doing CIDR lookups on BOTH of their DNS servers shows the same provider. I've worked with them for quite sometime, but funny enough...just earlier this week the same ISP cut both of my T3 lines in each office. Sadly, the billing error was on my company's side, so I didn't get to raise the dead over there.
The only reason I comment at all is that when they took our lines down, we recieved no notification either. So, this does sound like SOP for them.
I'm still dumbfounded by their potential role in this fiasco. They've been one of the sharpest ISP/backbone providers I've ever worked with, but their accounting and administration (not systems) departments seem to be running a fairly loose ship.
I was not a Masslinux customer, but if they do restart, I'd probably become one, just because I hate to see a nice little company go down in such a horrible way. Now, I don't quite buy the "didn't have connectivity, so couldn't send mail..." bit, but if he was their sysadm AND billing guy...I think I can understand. Why the hell would you put a sysadm in charge of billing?
I can see it now..."What??!?! This invoice says that hosting cost us $1MUS!"
I've found myself yearning for the good 'ol days, when years would go between changes in the domain request forms, etc... These days working with InterNIC^H^H^H^H^H^HNetwork Solutions is such a moving target it's a pain in the butt to deal with. At this point, all of the scripts which I'd written for my systems staff to register/modify/whatever domains the "right way" (meaning using our correct information) are now completely useless. You can't even register domains by e-mail anymore.
I understand the reasons for this, mind you (particularly the up-front-payment part,) but they really have got to settle down. I will not continue having to relearn their "process" each time I need to update a domain or something...
Generally it's the implementation of said algorithms that is considered proprietary. Most of them are indeed published, and not necessarily proprietary.
UNIX is all about user-level commands, privs, etc... Just because they won't have Super-User out of the box, doesn't mean there isn't plenty to learn (and will probably get root shortly, anyways!) There's a lot to be learned from the user-only side of UNIX.
I've dealt with a lot of domain transfers, and hate when the "recieving" organization demands this and that. It gives the holder a little more leverage to keep the domain, or get a fair price for their time/trouble--which does not mean $20,000 for a domain or anything, but a reasonable amount.
I agree, it wouldn't be that interesting to have a sequel which begins where the Matrix left off, but perhaps a movie which begins 10, 15, or 50 years later, to see the results of the aftermath. Does the Matrix get destroyed? Are the AIs wiped off the planet?
The more intriguing possibility would be a plot which surrounds the realization that they simply can't just kill off the Matrix, but need to use it to begin to deprogram the human population from needing it, or better yet...begin to use it to their own ends.
Regardless, I think a prequel is far more appealing.
I disagree. Yes, they did _tell_ us quite a bit about what happened, but that is different than _showing_ us. I think both prequel and sequel ideas have a lot of merit, and a ton of material to work with, however it's the prequel that I'm the most interested in.
Slashdot Mirror
It's supposed to aid in rehabilitation of a criminal. Isn't talking about the things you did as an addict one of the "twelve steps?"
-Buffy
This is not the same thing as profiting from the crimes for which he was inprisoned. If he was going around writing books, screenplays, or giving lectures on what and how he did the things he did, then yes...that would be the same. However, he's lecuring on how to IMPROVE the information infrastructures to PREVENT people from doing the things he did.
The court could/should consider that his speaking engagements are an act of attrition.
If his probation officer/panel insist that he has to get a job in an unrelated field, even though his probation is up in two years, it's wrong.
Just because most criminals don't have the skills to get a job past flipping burgers, doesn't mean that we should penalize Mitnick because he does.
Let me make it clear that I think Mitnick is a wanker, and deserved _most_ of what he got (not all,) but limiting his freedom to speak in such a fashion is wrong, and I belive, unconstitutional.
-buffy
So wait...are you saying that women _have_ to read radical feminist literature? How, my ex- girlfriend would be the first to mention that she doesn't "HAVE" to do anything.
:)
Sigh...perhaps an isolated case.
-buffy
Take a minute prior to posting in the future, and type something into the search box at the bottom of the /. homepage. I typed in Caldera and got a page full of links, including, amongst other things, a version release story.
Not a flame, just trying to point out that your observation is incorrect.
-buffy
I've never posted one of these, and this is an honest question: why is this posted to slashdot? Not quite what I consider "news for nerds," but I admit that is only my opinion, and I'm often wrong.
-Buffy
It depends. If someone has little real world experience, I do not necessarily disregard them off handedly. Instead, I chat with them for a while to get a feel for their level of understanding. I am a BIG believer that there is an "it" that some people get, and some don't. It's the difference between someone who goes and gets a certification, but doesn't understand what they're being taught, and someone who has an instinctual perception of the way things should work.
When I find someone who gets "it" I try to hire them for something, even if I have to create a position. These people are rare, so if I have to spend time training someone in the details, but end up with a very talented engineer, then I do it without question.
For example, I ended up chatting with the bar manager at our local watering hole. He was actually into Linux a little bit, and had been hacking (although he didn't know it.) I had a position for a jr. system admin which didn't really need that much in the way of skill set. A year and a half later, he's now one of my more compentent system engineers.
For those who get it, everything else is just details. So, would I blow you off if you didn't have any real world experience, but may, or may not have a certification, no... I would talk to you for a bit, to get a feeling for your level of understanding of the "way." If you get it, then you're as good as hired, in my book. If you don't, then, maybe.
Grr...If you didn't prepare for y2k by checking your code, and that of your vendors, then have the guts to leave it up and watch what happens! Putting your head in the sand, then saying "just in case, we're taking our site down..." is worthless, and does nothing to inspire consumer confidence.
Now, if you _did_ prepare, then you should KNOW that you're fine, and again...there is no reason to take your site down.
Personally, the malfunctions that we're going to see are going to be few and far between, and probably 90+% of them are not going to show up on the roll over anyways!
People are sad. I'm glad I'm only going to see one of these stupid things.
-Buffy
SOB! Doing CIDR lookups on BOTH of their DNS servers shows the same provider. I've worked with them for quite sometime, but funny enough...just earlier this week the same ISP cut both of my T3 lines in each office. Sadly, the billing error was on my company's side, so I didn't get to raise the dead over there.
The only reason I comment at all is that when they took our lines down, we recieved no notification either. So, this does sound like SOP for them.
I'm still dumbfounded by their potential role in this fiasco. They've been one of the sharpest ISP/backbone providers I've ever worked with, but their accounting and administration (not systems) departments seem to be running a fairly loose ship.
I was not a Masslinux customer, but if they do restart, I'd probably become one, just because I hate to see a nice little company go down in such a horrible way. Now, I don't quite buy the "didn't have connectivity, so couldn't send mail..." bit, but if he was their sysadm AND billing guy...I think I can understand. Why the hell would you put a sysadm in charge of billing?
I can see it now..."What??!?! This invoice says that hosting cost us $1MUS!"
Heh...
-Buffy
I've found myself yearning for the good 'ol days, when years would go between changes in the domain request forms, etc... These days working with InterNIC^H^H^H^H^H^HNetwork Solutions is such a
moving target it's a pain in the butt to deal with. At this point, all of the scripts which I'd written for my systems staff to register/modify/whatever domains the "right way" (meaning using our correct information) are now completely useless. You can't even register domains by e-mail anymore.
I understand the reasons for this, mind you (particularly the up-front-payment part,) but they really have got to settle down. I will not continue having to relearn their "process" each time I need to update a domain or something...
Sigh...progress can bite the big one somedays.
-buffy
I know that a bunch of sites have "prior art" on this one--I worked on one myself about 2 years ago. Stupid patents. Sad, really.
-Buff
Generally it's the implementation of said algorithms that is considered proprietary. Most of them are indeed published, and not necessarily proprietary.
UNIX is all about user-level commands, privs, etc... Just because they won't have Super-User
out of the box, doesn't mean there isn't plenty to learn (and will probably get root shortly, anyways!) There's a lot to be learned from the user-only side of UNIX.
I've dealt with a lot of domain transfers, and hate when the "recieving" organization demands this and that. It gives the holder a little more leverage to keep the domain, or get a fair price for their time/trouble--which does not mean $20,000 for a domain or anything, but a reasonable amount.
-Buffy
I agree, it wouldn't be that interesting to have a sequel which begins where the Matrix left off, but perhaps a movie which begins 10, 15, or 50 years later, to see the results of the aftermath. Does the Matrix get destroyed? Are the AIs wiped off the planet?
The more intriguing possibility would be a plot which surrounds the realization that they simply can't just kill off the Matrix, but need to use it to begin to deprogram the human population from needing it, or better yet...begin to use it to their own ends.
Regardless, I think a prequel is far more appealing.
I disagree. Yes, they did _tell_ us quite a bit
about what happened, but that is different than
_showing_ us. I think both prequel and sequel
ideas have a lot of merit, and a ton of material
to work with, however it's the prequel that I'm
the most interested in.
and then those two will have to duke it out!
I want the pay-per-view rights on that one!