Could CELL be programmed to do OpenRT as efficiently as this chip?
Sure, as soon as a throw linux on a cluster of mac mini's stuffed full of cell procs on the their fire wire busses, using ipod's for storage.
I think i deserve a +5 for mentioning the slashfodder code words "cell processor", "mac mini", "cluster" and "ipod".
Example: Immagine a cluster of mac mini's each with 5 20 gig ipods and 20 cell processors on their firewire busses rendering ray traced scenery in real time. Surely this must beat the proformance of a highly tuned application implimeted in hardware on an fpga.
Unfortunately, after browsing through the links, I had no luck in finding any information about what FPGA they are using. Was anyone able to find this out? Even looking at the pictures of the board, it only shows the bottom side of the board, so it is impossible to see the chip markings!
I work with a lot of fpga's, and while the view of the chip sucks, it's defintely a xilinx chip. Altera and Xilinx use a different pack design.
Apple survives on getting people to pay very high prices for cool looking products. Once Apple gets people buying iPods, it would only make sense that those same sheeps would also start buying overpriced but pretty Macs
I have several macs, and while many people may buy them because they look cool, theres a lot more to it than that.
1) I have yet to get infected with spyware or viruses in 2 years with OSX
2) I can tool around the web without having to worry too much about getting owned
3) I can get freakin email with out having to worry too much about getting owned
4) OSX shipps with XCode for free, a fully functional development environment with excellent documentation
5) Graphics acceleration at the presentation layer far exceeds any other OS out there at the moment
6) Apple hardware retains a higher resale value than just about any other manufacturer out there, check out ebay to see for your self
7) The construction of the circuitry is of much higher quality than most of the competition, just take a side by side comparison of several pc motherboards to apple motherboards
Apple hardware isnt everything, and it's not for everybody, but if you care about quality, value, security and service, a mac is definatly worth taking a look at.
Any idea of how much of a discount on ther hardware? I couldnt find any information about that on their site.
The way I look at it, $500 gets you the OS release that's bound to take place during your year's membership, and you can easily save far more than the difference when you buy a Macintosh system through the developer discount program. Being able to get assistance directly from Apple when you have a coding issue is a boon. The rest is icing on the cake.
This is what you call feel-good legislation. It makes the RIAA/MPAA lobbying groups feel like they're getting something for their efforts. Any technical person knows the law is meaningless (how hard is it to sign up for an annonymous Hotmail account?) and that it will not affect filesharing at all. But I say let the lobbyists have their petty victory. Maybe it will make them feel like they got something accomplished and they won't try as hard to buy a law that has a truly chilling effect.
I'd have more confidence in the intelligence of the RIAA/MPAA than the intelligence of the government. This isnt a feel good situation for the entertainment industry that we should just blow off as irrelevant just because it looks meaningless on the surface.
This in fact has a lot of meaning, it means the industry has yet another foot hold in our legal system. Once a law has made it into the system, it's damn hard to get it out. You watch, in a year, they'll be lobbying that it's not effective enough, and it will be even easier to add new rules to whats already there second time around.
This is a common strategy, you see it all over the place. Take away a little freedom, get people used to it, then take a little more.
And whats especially disturbing are the heavy ties with the entertainment industy that Mr. Schwartznegger has, it's pretty obvious who he's looking out for.
Offtopic I know, but I'm really starting to wish that article submitters could save the commentary for comments...
Agreed! And i hope that slashdot is getting paid for all this advertising theyre constantly pimping. Slashdot should be truely embarassed if theyre not.
it's the key to the encryption that they have to make sure isn't tampered with or eavesdropped on.
How are we supposed to route this if we cant look at the packets? Wouldnt a router have to "read" a signal to send it to another node? Wouldnt this modify the signal, and break the encryption?
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Could CELL be programmed to do OpenRT as efficiently as this chip?
Sure, as soon as a throw linux on a cluster of mac mini's stuffed full of cell procs on the their fire wire busses, using ipod's for storage.
I think i deserve a +5 for mentioning the slashfodder code words "cell processor", "mac mini", "cluster" and "ipod".
Example:
Immagine a cluster of mac mini's each with 5 20 gig ipods and 20 cell processors on their firewire busses rendering ray traced scenery in real time. Surely this must beat the proformance of a highly tuned application implimeted in hardware on an fpga.
Unfortunately, after browsing through the links, I had no luck in finding any information about what FPGA they are using. Was anyone able to find this out? Even looking at the pictures of the board, it only shows the bottom side of the board, so it is impossible to see the chip markings!
I work with a lot of fpga's, and while the view of the chip sucks, it's defintely a xilinx chip. Altera and Xilinx use a different pack design.
Some other groups definately worth mentioning that have been around since around the 60's:
Tangerine Dream
Kraftwerk
Isao Tomita
Vangelis
Chuck moore's 25x had 25 misc cores on one die. Specs:
.2 sq mm asynchronous microcomputer core
5 x 5 array of cores: 60,000 Mips
5 horizontal, 5 vertical parallel interconnect buses: 180 Ghz bandwidth
Specialized computers to interface off-chip.
Max power 500 mW @ 1.8 V, with 25 computers running
100mAh battery life is 1 year, with 1 computer running throttled
64-pin SOIC: mirrored pin-out to 4ns cache SRAM
Array chips on 2-sided PCB
Shortly after he announced the chip, he took the link off his page. According to a post from him he's in a lawsuit
The Cell processor is pretty cool, but i see some room for improvement. They could have made simpler cores, and lots more of them.
Apple survives on getting people to pay very high prices for cool looking products. Once Apple gets people buying iPods, it would only make sense that those same sheeps would also start buying overpriced but pretty Macs
I have several macs, and while many people may buy them because they look cool, theres a lot more to it than that.
1) I have yet to get infected with spyware or viruses in 2 years with OSX
2) I can tool around the web without having to worry too much about getting owned
3) I can get freakin email with out having to worry too much about getting owned
4) OSX shipps with XCode for free, a fully functional development environment with excellent documentation
5) Graphics acceleration at the presentation layer far exceeds any other OS out there at the moment
6) Apple hardware retains a higher resale value than just about any other manufacturer out there, check out ebay to see for your self
7) The construction of the circuitry is of much higher quality than most of the competition, just take a side by side comparison of several pc motherboards to apple motherboards
Apple hardware isnt everything, and it's not for everybody, but if you care about quality, value, security and service, a mac is definatly worth taking a look at.
Any idea of how much of a discount on ther hardware? I couldnt find any information about that on their site.
The way I look at it, $500 gets you the OS release that's bound to take place during your year's membership, and you can easily save far more than the difference when you buy a Macintosh system through the developer discount program. Being able to get assistance directly from Apple when you have a coding issue is a boon. The rest is icing on the cake.
This device is QVGA, or a Quarter of VGA. VGA is 640x480, SVGA is 800x600.
This is what you call feel-good legislation. It makes the RIAA/MPAA lobbying groups feel like they're getting something for their efforts. Any technical person knows the law is meaningless (how hard is it to sign up for an annonymous Hotmail account?) and that it will not affect filesharing at all. But I say let the lobbyists have their petty victory. Maybe it will make them feel like they got something accomplished and they won't try as hard to buy a law that has a truly chilling effect.
I'd have more confidence in the intelligence of the RIAA/MPAA than the intelligence of the government. This isnt a feel good situation for the entertainment industry that we should just blow off as irrelevant just because it looks meaningless on the surface.
This in fact has a lot of meaning, it means the industry has yet another foot hold in our legal system. Once a law has made it into the system, it's damn hard to get it out. You watch, in a year, they'll be lobbying that it's not effective enough, and it will be even easier to add new rules to whats already there second time around.
This is a common strategy, you see it all over the place. Take away a little freedom, get people used to it, then take a little more.
And whats especially disturbing are the heavy ties with the entertainment industy that Mr. Schwartznegger has, it's pretty obvious who he's looking out for.
Offtopic I know, but I'm really starting to wish that article submitters could save the commentary for comments...
Agreed! And i hope that slashdot is getting paid for all this advertising theyre constantly pimping. Slashdot should be truely embarassed if theyre not.
I don't know which is worse--all the beer bottles, or that I noticed the VT-220 before noticing the beer bottles.
I really like my vt-220
The Alphaserver 4100 in the picture has 4 processors and 2.5GB ram. In the winter i wont have to use the central heat.
You should see my work area! Err wait, I'm not sure what it looks like anymore, but its under the coffee cups, beer cans and other crap somewhere...
I totally know what you mean...
How the heck would the color blue pay homage to Bill ?
As long as a dump of the stack and registers is painted on the side along with the blue, i'd say that would be a perfect hommage to Bill Gates.
This picture was taken at IOI 2000 (China):
shhhhhh!
Just don't make them play beach volleyball..
shhhhh... Dont let them hear that, they might start playing ddr.
it's the key to the encryption that they have to make sure isn't tampered with or eavesdropped on.
How are we supposed to route this if we cant look at the packets? Wouldnt a router have to "read" a signal to send it to another node? Wouldnt this modify the signal, and break the encryption?