LibreOffice runs on all the operating systems I use. Even the OS's I choose to use because Windows 10's aggressive data harvesting is chasing me away from Windows.
Debian to be specific. It would not work with my friends who use the Windows version of Skype. Skype would connect, but no video, no audio. And no error message of any kind.
...This is what you wrote when the poster noted how Apple could not have anticipated hardware security flaws....
You're misquoting me, please stop.
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The comment to which you refer was written in response to the poster's comment, "you can not test for every use case," not that Apple could not have anticipated hardware security flaws. Indeed, I was not even thinking about the Spectre/Meltdown problems until the other poster brought them up. They have been an unfortunate tangent on this thread, seemingly being used to draw attention away from Apple's apparent software development problem.
Regarding Apple's problem, I'll quote TFA, "Apple has been criticized of late, both for security issues and for a number of quality issues, as well as for how it handles battery issues on older devices." That is what I was thinking about when I wrote my comments.
... take a swipe at Apple that every single OS developer failed to anticipate?...
And for the record, I did not take a swipe at Apple for failing to anticipate the Spectre/Meltdown problems. Indeed, I did place the blame for those problems with Intel (et alia).
...Meltdown and Specter present a good illustration in the complexity of computer science and why no amount testing, or process, or methodology, etc. can solve all the problems....
Who said anything about solving all problems, especially those that originate outside of one's control?
... How would you have anticipated Meltdown and Spectre considering that they affect hardware that Apple does not control?...
I said, "Software bugs (security, reliability or otherwise) are symptoms of a failed software development process." Did Apple's process cause Meltdown and Spectre? I doubt it. So my comment doesn't apply to Apple. However, it does apply to Intel (et alia).
Well, for starters... why not? If you have a use case, why not test for it. But more to my comment, you cannot test quality into a product, as you imply.
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May I suggest some reading material --- Software Testing Techniques by Boris Beizer. It's an oldie, but a goodie.:) Perhaps you'll learn something about software testing, and stop making excuses for Apple's failings.
... the text is really just gibberish, a practical joke created by the author, and the AI is just an ~infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters~ type of thing, eventually "finding" something that may make sense.
Software bugs (security, reliability or otherwise) are symptoms of a failed software development process. Pausing a flawed software development process to fix the bugs that the flawed development process has created is not a solution, it is a Band-Aid®.
. Apple needs to fix its software development process.
...Strava -- which includes an option for keeping users' workout data private...
The data are still on Strava's servers. Do those servers pass the military security requirements for protecting troop locations? What else does Strava do with the data?
... songwriter I would hope would be pretty damn specific from a legal perspective...
Since it was a publishers' association that brought the case to court, I'm not optimistic. I'd really like to be wrong, though. It wouldn't not be the first time I've heard about publishers diverting a lot of the money to themselves while saying it is going to artists.
... I'm OK with it. My concern is that the publishers and "music catalog owners" will get an overwhelmingly large share of the money, leaving only cookie crumbs to the songwriters and artists.
...we'll start seeing huge fleets of delivery vehicles roaming the streets - even to the scale of having multiple delivery vehicles on the same street at the same time - and the workforce that used to drive will then move towards maintaining and managing the vast fleet....
Or the workforce will be needed to increase the capacity of the over-crowded streets. In your analogy of virtual servers, you also need to acknowledge the tremendous increase in networking capacity that connects the virtual servers to those that use them. There may need to be a similar increase in street capacity.
... And frankly, that makes me think this should be the role of the window manager....
I would agree with that. The only reason why I put the onus on the app was that I was dumped upon the last time I brought it up for windows managers. Everyone told me it was the apps' responsibility. Seems like a lot of "not my job" finger pointing, imo. But I still have to ask, why is it still missing in GNU/Linux?
. It's a basic ease of use requirement. Why make the user resize and relocate a window each time the same app is opened? Aren't computers supposed to help reduce the number of repetitive tasks, not create more of them? KDE comes close on this, allowing me to remember size/location for individual windows, but the ability is sadly absent in the global settings area.
... I'd much rather see someone go on a crusade to have apps remember their last window size and location on the desktop, so that i don't have to resize and re-location the window each time I open an app on GNU/Linux. MS Windows has been doing this for decades, why is GNU/Linux so far behind? Is there a patent in the way?
"I must make my mark by fucking up a start-up sequence that's worked fine for thirty damned years!!!! Because I'm soooo much smarter than everyone else!!!"
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LibreOffice runs on all the operating systems I use. Even the OS's I choose to use because Windows 10's aggressive data harvesting is chasing me away from Windows.
Debian to be specific. It would not work with my friends who use the Windows version of Skype. Skype would connect, but no video, no audio. And no error message of any kind.
...This is what you wrote when the poster noted how Apple could not have anticipated hardware security flaws....
You're misquoting me, please stop.
.
The comment to which you refer was written in response to the poster's comment, "you can not test for every use case," not that Apple could not have anticipated hardware security flaws. Indeed, I was not even thinking about the Spectre/Meltdown problems until the other poster brought them up. They have been an unfortunate tangent on this thread, seemingly being used to draw attention away from Apple's apparent software development problem.
Regarding Apple's problem, I'll quote TFA, "Apple has been criticized of late, both for security issues and for a number of quality issues, as well as for how it handles battery issues on older devices." That is what I was thinking about when I wrote my comments.
... take a swipe at Apple that every single OS developer failed to anticipate? ...
And for the record, I did not take a swipe at Apple for failing to anticipate the Spectre/Meltdown problems. Indeed, I did place the blame for those problems with Intel (et alia).
...So you don't have an answer but would still like to take a swipe at Apple that every single OS developer failed to anticipate?...
I don't have an answer to what?
...Meltdown and Specter present a good illustration in the complexity of computer science and why no amount testing, or process, or methodology, etc. can solve all the problems....
Who said anything about solving all problems, especially those that originate outside of one's control?
... How would you have anticipated Meltdown and Spectre considering that they affect hardware that Apple does not control? ...
I said, "Software bugs (security, reliability or otherwise) are symptoms of a failed software development process." Did Apple's process cause Meltdown and Spectre? I doubt it. So my comment doesn't apply to Apple. However, it does apply to Intel (et alia).
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btw, that book I recommended is a good one.
... you can not test for every use case. ...
Well, for starters... why not? If you have a use case, why not test for it. But more to my comment, you cannot test quality into a product, as you imply.
. :) Perhaps you'll learn something about software testing, and stop making excuses for Apple's failings.
May I suggest some reading material --- Software Testing Techniques by Boris Beizer. It's an oldie, but a goodie.
... the text is really just gibberish, a practical joke created by the author, and the AI is just an ~infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters~ type of thing, eventually "finding" something that may make sense.
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Apple needs to fix its software development process.
...Strava -- which includes an option for keeping users' workout data private...
The data are still on Strava's servers. Do those servers pass the military security requirements for protecting troop locations? What else does Strava do with the data?
... he is owned by Verizon and other ISPs.
...Oddly, Ford parts don't fit into my Chevy either!...
A better analogy would be if Fords could only drive on roads controled by Ford.
... songwirters are special snowflakes who deserve to get paid forever for a few hours/days/months of work..
Unlike publishers who sit back and make money off the work of others.
...IIRC Michael Jacksons rights to many of his songs, which he also wrote afaik...
Michael Jackson also owned the rights to Beatles songs at one point.
... songwriter I would hope would be pretty damn specific from a legal perspective ...
Since it was a publishers' association that brought the case to court, I'm not optimistic. I'd really like to be wrong, though. It wouldn't not be the first time I've heard about publishers diverting a lot of the money to themselves while saying it is going to artists.
... I'm OK with it. My concern is that the publishers and "music catalog owners" will get an overwhelmingly large share of the money, leaving only cookie crumbs to the songwriters and artists.
Is consciousness a binary thing (either you have it or you don't), or is consciousness a spectrum of varying levels of consciousness?
...we'll start seeing huge fleets of delivery vehicles roaming the streets - even to the scale of having multiple delivery vehicles on the same street at the same time - and the workforce that used to drive will then move towards maintaining and managing the vast fleet....
Or the workforce will be needed to increase the capacity of the over-crowded streets. In your analogy of virtual servers, you also need to acknowledge the tremendous increase in networking capacity that connects the virtual servers to those that use them. There may need to be a similar increase in street capacity.
... And frankly, that makes me think this should be the role of the window manager....
I would agree with that. The only reason why I put the onus on the app was that I was dumped upon the last time I brought it up for windows managers. Everyone told me it was the apps' responsibility. Seems like a lot of "not my job" finger pointing, imo. But I still have to ask, why is it still missing in GNU/Linux?
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It's a basic ease of use requirement. Why make the user resize and relocate a window each time the same app is opened? Aren't computers supposed to help reduce the number of repetitive tasks, not create more of them? KDE comes close on this, allowing me to remember size/location for individual windows, but the ability is sadly absent in the global settings area.
... you’re just as bad as what’s being complained about. ...
it's called leading by example. :)
... With the transition from teams of horses to trucks, they were still the "driver." Now they are fighting the elimination of the "driver."
... I'd much rather see someone go on a crusade to have apps remember their last window size and location on the desktop, so that i don't have to resize and re-location the window each time I open an app on GNU/Linux. MS Windows has been doing this for decades, why is GNU/Linux so far behind? Is there a patent in the way?
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FTFY
Hopefully Verizon, et alia, will learn something from this.