What's funny is that that's not entirely what he's saying. He actually said that if you're doing it for religious reasons, then it's OK to deviate 'from what society perceives to be "correct"'. If you're not a member of some big club, though, then you're just immature and worthless.
You actually don't have to read the article. It says 'I wrongly assumed that since I paid for it, it must be better'. I knew the outcome before i clicked the link.
I'm sorry,And this isn't ment to be a troll,But GIVE ME A BREAK!I have a four year old 2K box and a brand new xp.I also worked until school came up in a pc shop.My 2k box has NEVER needed a reinstall.I've reinstalled xp at LEAST four times since i got it.The MOBO manufacturer only has 98 and xp drivers so i tested it for two weeks on 98,So it's not the hardware. Xp is pretty,But the pretty comes at a price.I capture and edit a lot of large video files so 98 is not an option or i'd keep it over the junk that is xp. Here is my impression of xp--Oh look at how pretty i am,You'd almost think i was a mac!Oh,You want to do so complex video editing?Oh,Look,I fall down and go BOOM! Before the new pc i used the same card in my 2k box,flawless performanc,never failed.Tried original xp drivers,updated xp drivers,sp2 drivers,They all fall down and go BOOM! It isn't just editing either.Oh,You want to watch a dvd?If you try windvd or anything other than media play 9 i won't let you have a full screen picture!But aren't i pretty! As soon as i can afford it i'm buying a new mobo and taking a perfectly good one and stuffing it in the closet.If i have to stick with xp,The constant repairs will drive me insane.
Jesus Christ, you don't actually expect anyone to read that whole thing, do you?
My experience with Windows 2000 was that it blue-screened the very first time i started it up after i installed it, and it kept doing it over and over. So i went back to Windows 98, and i stayed there until one of the XP betas. I guess i could write a big shitty paragraph about that, but really it doesn't matter that i had one bad experience with Windows 2000.
(I watch full-screen DVDs on Windows XP all the time, by the way. I don't use garbage like WinDVD, though, so maybe that's it.)
Huh? You mean the default backgrounds? Hm.
That isn't what i was referring to, but yes, i suppose that goes with it.
Which all the professionals I know immediately turn off.
Good for all the professionals you know. I like it a lot.
Which no professional I know uses.
I don't use it either, but a lot of people i know do. It's there if you want it. (Why would a 'professional' need user switching anyway? What kind of dumb-ass comment is that?)
Ditto.
Ditto.
Uh. Really? "Better"??
Yes. Really. 'Better'. The drivers themselves are better, the driver management is better, the driver certificates are at least vaguely useful (although i personally ignore them).
Haven't noticed the tinyest difference.
Ah. Well maybe that's because you're too professional for Windows XP. It has taskbar grouping and it has taskbar locking.
Automatically hiding the wrong icons? Yep. Much better.
OH MY GOD I'M TOO PROFESSIONAL TO RIGHT-CLICK THE TRAY AND CHANGE SOME SETTINGS
Oh really? In what way is it even detectably different? Or do you mean the huge space wasting, never-what-you-actually-want tasks pane?
I wish you could get rid of some of those panes in there, but yes, i do like the tasks pane. I also like the better icon-grouping and arrangement options. I also like the fact that it gives you information about movie and video and picture files. I also like the fact that it has better options for images (like thumb nails and stuff). You probably need to be a lowly plebeian to detect those differences though.
If I new what you meant by a "network manager" I could comment. There are certainly more network setup options, but I don't notice any useful functional difference from W2K.
I didn't know what else to call it. They improved 'Network Connections' and all the related stuff like that.
ClearType? Hm, maybe. 1/2 a point for LCD users.
ClearType works phenomenally, LCD or not.
All of these are basically trivial or irrelevant to me and the other people I know who use XP.
Cool beans. And there are people on Slashdot who do everything from emacs.
There's no way i could ever claim that 2000->XP was as big or as useful of a jump as 95->2000, but i personally think it's kind of annoying that people bash XP. I mean, maybe it's over-priced, and yes, it does have a hideous default window theme, but i actually thought XP was a great step up from 2000.
Granted, better graphics and window themes and a better Start menu and user switching and a graphical log-in screen and better drivers and a better taskbar and a better tray and a better file manager and a better network manager and nicer-looking fonts and easier access to scanners/cameras and so on might not make or break the operating system, but i sure think they make XP a lot nicer than 2000.
It wasn't Bell Labs' job to produce products, was it? They only developed the ideas, i thought, and the ones that were most useful to AT&T were made into actual products by Western Electric. Right?
I'm not going to take sides on this arguement, and i didn't read the actual article, but the summary does not say $5.
Here's an example: If a privacy-minded user deposits $20 to get an anonymous library card, she can check out The Terror State without identifying herself. Her account balance is temporarily reduced by $15, and when the library checks the CD back in (in good condition), her balance is restored to its original value.
That means it costs $15 and you have $5 left in the account.
I am like one of the very few people i know who can't stand LCDs. I have never liked them. The only good things about them are the power usage and the size, and those really aren't enough for me to give up my CRT. I'm going to hold out as long as possible.:(
I don't really do any coding, but i have remapped a lot of my keys. Like i put ( and ) where [ and ] are (and vice versa). Easier to reach them that way. And i switched / and ' around, so the / is on the home row. And i switched ~ and ` (since i use ~ all the time and i never use `).
If you use Windows, Microsoft has a fancy little program that lets you create keyboard lay-outs. It's called, ingeniously enough, Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator. You can download it from their site. The benefit is that they're regular software keyboard lay-outs, so you don't have to worry about screwing with the Registry or anything that takes a bunch of work to undo. You just create a new lay-out and double-click the file it makes and select it in Regional Settings.
Well, that was sorta the point, at least initially. I don't know about 'Xbox 720' and beyond, but the original Xbox was pretty much designed to get Microsoft's foot in the door. It wasn't a gigantic success, and it's pretty surprising that it even did as well as it did. The entire point of the exercise was to establish Microsoft in the console market, and afterwards they could move onto more serious stuff in line with Sony and Nintendo (which i would assume is what Xbox 360 is supposed to be like).
Haha, i got modded down for defending some Star Trek guy. OK then.
I didn't say anything about 'truely great episodes', i said it was a ratings failure. Maybe i'm wrong, i don't know (i didn't look it up before i posted, but that's what i'd always heard), but you didn't argue what i said, you just gave an opinion on some of your own favourite episodes.
I personally don't care either way. It's all exactly the same to me. Star Trek is Star Trek is Star Trek is Star Trek, Roddenberry or not. I evidently do not analyse Star Trek sufficiently enough to even be able to tell the difference.
Under Roddenberry, as i recall, Star Trek was about to tank, wasn't it? It wasn't until he died and Berman or whoever took over that TNG stopped being a huge ratings failure.
Exactly. Don't do anything to good people, but inmates, Jews, Arabs, and other terrorists, well, we know they're less than human....
Because tracking the movements of prisoners while they're locked up for committing a crime is exactly the same as tracking the movements of random Jews and Arabs. Good thinking.
And what benefit will it have to spend $1bn on this? I'm sure this money could be put to better use, like schools.
Beats me, i don't know anything about economics. I meant the general idea.
Eventually this will be a bigger deal than it is. Right now, the majority of Firetruck extensions (i know, not all of them, nobody has to quote me a list of extension features that Opera doesn't include) are designed just to play catch-up with Opera. You have to go out and get mouse gestures and tab extensions and rewind extensions and 'fast' back extensions and site-reporting extensions and all this other stuff that already comes with Opera.
So, right now, extensions aren't really that big of a deal, and i think it's usually silly when people act like they are (unless they're part of the small group of people that uses a niche extension).
HOWEVER, as more people start to use Firetruck and start to think of better ways to browse the Internet, i can see new, unique extensions starting to be written. Stuff that Opera doesn't have, i mean. When that time comes, extensions will be a pretty big thing, and i imagine that either the situation is going to change (Opera playing catch-up to Firefox instead of the other way around) or Opera is going to add a way for people to use 'extensions' (or some similar concept) with their own browser.
Except, by definition, adding those in, WOULD BE BLOAT. Get what you want and only what you want.
Well, it's a funny thing, isn't it? Opera has aaaaaaaall these features that you have get extensions for to use in Firetruck (i think you need around thirty extensions to make vanilla Firefox catch up to Opera in terms of features). They come WITH Opera, built right in. And Opera is STILL just as fast as Firefox (possibly faster, i don't know), and it's STILL a smaller download than Firefox, and all of these features STILL work together more seamlessly than Firefox's extensions do.
It isn't bloat unless it affects usability. If you don't want your browser to include a mail client (and i know i don't), you go into preferences and uncheck the box that says 'enable mail client'. Poof, suddenly Opera is no more encumbered by its mail client than Firefox is. Don't want mouse gestures? Don't enable them. Don't want skins? Disable them. Don't want RSS? Don't enable it. Don't want tabs? Disable them.
Opera comes with at least thirty extensions' worth of features that Firefox doesn't, and it's not bloat, because you don't have to use a single one of them.
One of the few things i like about Firefox (over Opera, that is) is the fact that the mouse-gesture extension for it makes a neato line thing on the screen when you use it. That's pretty rad.
Not a fan at all of using RFIDs for 'regular' people, but as far as inmates are concerned it sounds good to me. As long as the RFIDs are removed before they, you know, get released.
I agree so much, you don't even know. I can't stand using open-source cross-platform software on Windows. I don't have a ton of specific experience with stuff like that on UNIX, but on Windows it really really bothers me.
In older versions of Firefox, the scroll bars were generic; they didn't go along with how you had them in Windows. They've fixed this, but the menus and some of the interface behaviours are still wrong, the preferences panel looks ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like any other preferences panel in the history of the universe (except probably like Thunderbird's, but that hardly counts), et cetera. This bothers me about the GIMP, Gaim, X-Chat, OpenOffice.... All the open-source programs for Windows look absolutely terrible, and (supposing that they at least function intelligibly, which most of them don't either) that fact alone often makes me not want to use them.
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What's funny is that that's not entirely what he's saying. He actually said that if you're doing it for religious reasons, then it's OK to deviate 'from what society perceives to be "correct"'. If you're not a member of some big club, though, then you're just immature and worthless.
You actually don't have to read the article. It says 'I wrongly assumed that since I paid for it, it must be better'. I knew the outcome before i clicked the link.
I'm sorry,And this isn't ment to be a troll,But GIVE ME A BREAK!I have a four year old 2K box and a brand new xp.I also worked until school came up in a pc shop.My 2k box has NEVER needed a reinstall.I've reinstalled xp at LEAST four times since i got it.The MOBO manufacturer only has 98 and xp drivers so i tested it for two weeks on 98,So it's not the hardware. Xp is pretty,But the pretty comes at a price.I capture and edit a lot of large video files so 98 is not an option or i'd keep it over the junk that is xp. Here is my impression of xp--Oh look at how pretty i am,You'd almost think i was a mac!Oh,You want to do so complex video editing?Oh,Look,I fall down and go BOOM! Before the new pc i used the same card in my 2k box,flawless performanc,never failed.Tried original xp drivers,updated xp drivers,sp2 drivers,They all fall down and go BOOM! It isn't just editing either.Oh,You want to watch a dvd?If you try windvd or anything other than media play 9 i won't let you have a full screen picture!But aren't i pretty! As soon as i can afford it i'm buying a new mobo and taking a perfectly good one and stuffing it in the closet.If i have to stick with xp,The constant repairs will drive me insane.
Jesus Christ, you don't actually expect anyone to read that whole thing, do you?
My experience with Windows 2000 was that it blue-screened the very first time i started it up after i installed it, and it kept doing it over and over. So i went back to Windows 98, and i stayed there until one of the XP betas. I guess i could write a big shitty paragraph about that, but really it doesn't matter that i had one bad experience with Windows 2000.
(I watch full-screen DVDs on Windows XP all the time, by the way. I don't use garbage like WinDVD, though, so maybe that's it.)
Huh? You mean the default backgrounds? Hm.
That isn't what i was referring to, but yes, i suppose that goes with it.
Which all the professionals I know immediately turn off.
Good for all the professionals you know. I like it a lot.
Which no professional I know uses.
I don't use it either, but a lot of people i know do. It's there if you want it. (Why would a 'professional' need user switching anyway? What kind of dumb-ass comment is that?)
Ditto.
Ditto.
Uh. Really? "Better"??
Yes. Really. 'Better'. The drivers themselves are better, the driver management is better, the driver certificates are at least vaguely useful (although i personally ignore them).
Haven't noticed the tinyest difference.
Ah. Well maybe that's because you're too professional for Windows XP. It has taskbar grouping and it has taskbar locking.
Automatically hiding the wrong icons? Yep. Much better.
OH MY GOD I'M TOO PROFESSIONAL TO RIGHT-CLICK THE TRAY AND CHANGE SOME SETTINGS
Oh really? In what way is it even detectably different? Or do you mean the huge space wasting, never-what-you-actually-want tasks pane?
I wish you could get rid of some of those panes in there, but yes, i do like the tasks pane. I also like the better icon-grouping and arrangement options. I also like the fact that it gives you information about movie and video and picture files. I also like the fact that it has better options for images (like thumb nails and stuff). You probably need to be a lowly plebeian to detect those differences though.
If I new what you meant by a "network manager" I could comment. There are certainly more network setup options, but I don't notice any useful functional difference from W2K.
I didn't know what else to call it. They improved 'Network Connections' and all the related stuff like that.
ClearType? Hm, maybe. 1/2 a point for LCD users.
ClearType works phenomenally, LCD or not.
All of these are basically trivial or irrelevant to me and the other people I know who use XP.
Cool beans. And there are people on Slashdot who do everything from emacs.
There's no way i could ever claim that 2000->XP was as big or as useful of a jump as 95->2000, but i personally think it's kind of annoying that people bash XP. I mean, maybe it's over-priced, and yes, it does have a hideous default window theme, but i actually thought XP was a great step up from 2000.
Granted, better graphics and window themes and a better Start menu and user switching and a graphical log-in screen and better drivers and a better taskbar and a better tray and a better file manager and a better network manager and nicer-looking fonts and easier access to scanners/cameras and so on might not make or break the operating system, but i sure think they make XP a lot nicer than 2000.
It wasn't Bell Labs' job to produce products, was it? They only developed the ideas, i thought, and the ones that were most useful to AT&T were made into actual products by Western Electric. Right?
It's 'fat' as in big or large (because it contains code for more than one architecture). Not 'FAT' as in file allocation table.
I wonder if 'open platform' means AOL will let me use Miranda to connect to their service without suspending my account every week.
I'm not going to take sides on this arguement, and i didn't read the actual article, but the summary does not say $5.
Here's an example: If a privacy-minded user deposits $20 to get an anonymous library card, she can check out The Terror State without identifying herself. Her account balance is temporarily reduced by $15, and when the library checks the CD back in (in good condition), her balance is restored to its original value.
That means it costs $15 and you have $5 left in the account.
AGREED
I am like one of the very few people i know who can't stand LCDs. I have never liked them. The only good things about them are the power usage and the size, and those really aren't enough for me to give up my CRT. I'm going to hold out as long as possible. :(
Oh! Ha, ha, i see what you did there! You switched the letters around! CLEVER INDEED
I don't really do any coding, but i have remapped a lot of my keys. Like i put ( and ) where [ and ] are (and vice versa). Easier to reach them that way. And i switched / and ' around, so the / is on the home row. And i switched ~ and ` (since i use ~ all the time and i never use `).
If you use Windows, Microsoft has a fancy little program that lets you create keyboard lay-outs. It's called, ingeniously enough, Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator. You can download it from their site. The benefit is that they're regular software keyboard lay-outs, so you don't have to worry about screwing with the Registry or anything that takes a bunch of work to undo. You just create a new lay-out and double-click the file it makes and select it in Regional Settings.
Unless mainstream systems start shipping, are we really going to see people using cell-based personal computers?
... Do you seriously want an answer to that question? What the hell.
Well, that was sorta the point, at least initially. I don't know about 'Xbox 720' and beyond, but the original Xbox was pretty much designed to get Microsoft's foot in the door. It wasn't a gigantic success, and it's pretty surprising that it even did as well as it did. The entire point of the exercise was to establish Microsoft in the console market, and afterwards they could move onto more serious stuff in line with Sony and Nintendo (which i would assume is what Xbox 360 is supposed to be like).
Haha, i got modded down for defending some Star Trek guy. OK then.
I didn't say anything about 'truely great episodes', i said it was a ratings failure. Maybe i'm wrong, i don't know (i didn't look it up before i posted, but that's what i'd always heard), but you didn't argue what i said, you just gave an opinion on some of your own favourite episodes.
I personally don't care either way. It's all exactly the same to me. Star Trek is Star Trek is Star Trek is Star Trek, Roddenberry or not. I evidently do not analyse Star Trek sufficiently enough to even be able to tell the difference.
You're pretty much the biggest nerd of all time. :(
Under Roddenberry, as i recall, Star Trek was about to tank, wasn't it? It wasn't until he died and Berman or whoever took over that TNG stopped being a huge ratings failure.
Exactly. Don't do anything to good people, but inmates, Jews, Arabs, and other terrorists, well, we know they're less than human....
Because tracking the movements of prisoners while they're locked up for committing a crime is exactly the same as tracking the movements of random Jews and Arabs. Good thinking.
And what benefit will it have to spend $1bn on this? I'm sure this money could be put to better use, like schools.
Beats me, i don't know anything about economics. I meant the general idea.
Eventually this will be a bigger deal than it is. Right now, the majority of Firetruck extensions (i know, not all of them, nobody has to quote me a list of extension features that Opera doesn't include) are designed just to play catch-up with Opera. You have to go out and get mouse gestures and tab extensions and rewind extensions and 'fast' back extensions and site-reporting extensions and all this other stuff that already comes with Opera.
So, right now, extensions aren't really that big of a deal, and i think it's usually silly when people act like they are (unless they're part of the small group of people that uses a niche extension).
HOWEVER, as more people start to use Firetruck and start to think of better ways to browse the Internet, i can see new, unique extensions starting to be written. Stuff that Opera doesn't have, i mean. When that time comes, extensions will be a pretty big thing, and i imagine that either the situation is going to change (Opera playing catch-up to Firefox instead of the other way around) or Opera is going to add a way for people to use 'extensions' (or some similar concept) with their own browser.
Except, by definition, adding those in, WOULD BE BLOAT. Get what you want and only what you want.
Well, it's a funny thing, isn't it? Opera has aaaaaaaall these features that you have get extensions for to use in Firetruck (i think you need around thirty extensions to make vanilla Firefox catch up to Opera in terms of features). They come WITH Opera, built right in. And Opera is STILL just as fast as Firefox (possibly faster, i don't know), and it's STILL a smaller download than Firefox, and all of these features STILL work together more seamlessly than Firefox's extensions do.
It isn't bloat unless it affects usability. If you don't want your browser to include a mail client (and i know i don't), you go into preferences and uncheck the box that says 'enable mail client'. Poof, suddenly Opera is no more encumbered by its mail client than Firefox is. Don't want mouse gestures? Don't enable them. Don't want skins? Disable them. Don't want RSS? Don't enable it. Don't want tabs? Disable them.
Opera comes with at least thirty extensions' worth of features that Firefox doesn't, and it's not bloat, because you don't have to use a single one of them.
One of the few things i like about Firefox (over Opera, that is) is the fact that the mouse-gesture extension for it makes a neato line thing on the screen when you use it. That's pretty rad.
Not a fan at all of using RFIDs for 'regular' people, but as far as inmates are concerned it sounds good to me. As long as the RFIDs are removed before they, you know, get released.
I'm willing to bet that all of the footage from PS3 games is CGI. Considering, you know, it's a computer.
If KDE really was that close to Windows, it probably wouldn't look so ridiculously ugly.
I agree so much, you don't even know. I can't stand using open-source cross-platform software on Windows. I don't have a ton of specific experience with stuff like that on UNIX, but on Windows it really really bothers me.
In older versions of Firefox, the scroll bars were generic; they didn't go along with how you had them in Windows. They've fixed this, but the menus and some of the interface behaviours are still wrong, the preferences panel looks ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like any other preferences panel in the history of the universe (except probably like Thunderbird's, but that hardly counts), et cetera. This bothers me about the GIMP, Gaim, X-Chat, OpenOffice.... All the open-source programs for Windows look absolutely terrible, and (supposing that they at least function intelligibly, which most of them don't either) that fact alone often makes me not want to use them.
And don't even get me started on 'skins'.
No offence to you or the KDE project, but that is quite possibly the single ugliest desk top i have ever seen in my entire life.
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