This is really *too* gross: ...like the Founding Fathers! Didn't they realize that claiming independence instead of rationally, slowly, carefully, and diplomatically working for reform as a colony would cause the deaths of so many people? How immature of George Washington!
(sarcasm)
You are putting the fight for American Independence and the fight against "Proprietary Software" on the same level??...
Indeed. How nice it would be if the GNU people abandoned this crusading style of theirs, according to which everything that serves to their political purpose is ultimately justified, no matter how disgusting.
Open Source is supposed to be fun. The problem is, there's somebody for whom Open Source is a goddamn political thing. Hence, all means are legitimate - spreading FUD and violating licenses among these - to get rid of whatever is in the way. The BSD license, much less restrictive than the GPL, is of course one of the first targets.
I don't like it this way. And this is one of the main reasons (the other ones are technical) I steer clear of Linux and GPL'd stuff whenever it's possible. Luckily, it often is.
It's nice to read interviews to the developers of this clean and compact OS (not to mention performant and record-breaking:). As soon as NetBSD 2.0 comes out I'm gonna install it on my Acer laptop. I don't know if the setup might require some fiddling, but I'm sure that every minute spent to understand this OS would be well worth (as it has been for FreeBSD).
OMG. Like leave the guy alone. If he wants to complain about his CDs let him. It's more a statement on the accountablity of BSD. "RC1, then we release!" "Er, ok... we lied!"
This is is clearly a Troll.
From the announcement of RC1: "This will likely be the only Release Candidate before the final release of 5.3". The word 'likely' should ring a bell...
Troll-joking-about-the-few-restrictions-of-the-BSD -license says In other news, Microsoft has declared they have just improved the network-stack of Windows XP, making it more robust under heavy loads....
Strange... you should be happy, because GNU/Linux can adopt it as well. And it's about time...:) What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
Quote: "FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."
Seriously... It looks like most of you GNU/Linux users hate Microsoft more than you love your OS. I hope I'm wrong, because that would be a bit sad...:-/
I'm still trying to imagine (...) an attractive woman (sorry, can't find the link) in a... flag costume.
What about an attractive woman in an orange bikini.:)
Clean, simple, and tasteful. Also notice that the flag is the surviving element from the old logo - representing the strain to "conquer" new platforms:) Choosing a logo with these qualities could be *much* harder than it seems... It's definitely a good pick.
>> Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD
> Holy crap, wow, just amazing! Man, wow!
> Lets see, that's an amazing 6.7% of the web sites out there. Oh... hmmmm, OK.
More properly, that should be modded "Silly" - or "Clueless GNU/Linux zealot". Time for new categories..:) - because
- Considering the lack of media hype, it *is* indeed an amazing result.
- That link was posted in response to people cluelessly asserting that BSD's dying, and that's indeed a pretty convincing answer, I think, since that number is growing at the rate of half a million a year.
- No one suggests *BSD is the leader in the OS market. The leader is still Windows(TM). Reason? Well, too few competent people around.:)
P.S. Since OpenBSD's the proper topic, let's note that it's getting more and more attention from the specialized press. Here and here are a couple of very recent interviews with the project leader Theo de Raadt, talking about the history and philosophy of OpenBSD.
> Matrox is just about to join BSD in the next life.
?.. I don't know about Matrox, but Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (June 2004) Excerpt: "[FreeBSD] has a secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003." To sum it up, FreeBSD is growing pretty fast.
Since we are in the Linux section: Of course Linux is growing *faster*. So what? Due to the radical differences between the GPL and BSD license, Linux and *BSDs will always be complementary, by attracting different investors and appealing to different users.
Somebody modded flamebait my three-word ("Happy Birthday OpenBSD!") post.
I'm trying to understand the mechanics of this fellow's brain. I'll provide here all the possible explanations I can think of - since mine was indeed a three-word post, their number is actually quite small.
1) It's "Happy".
Maybe my wishing a "happy" birthday instead of a "fairly good birthday", or "decent birthday", sounded like an abuse to everybody in the world who was not particularly happy ("Hey! How dare you talk about happiness when I've just had a goddamn f**kin' day? You're flaming, aren't you!").
2) It's "Birthday".
Maybe the fact that I wished happy birthday to an OS sounds offensive towards real people ("Hey! It's *my* birthday too. How come a f**kin' OS gets more attention than me? That's what I call flaming!").
3) It's "OpenBSD".
Maybe it sounded discriminatory against the other OS's ("Hey! I didn't hear you wish happy birthday to Mandrake! Wanna start a flame?"). More likely, it might have sounded discriminatory against Linux in general, since I'm sure there are at least a dozen distros whose
birthday falls on the same day.
Here they are, but I can't really pick. And that's a pity, because I'm really curious about what triggers certain brains. Oh well...
I don't know the details specific to version 5.x,
but if you want an example of superiority, the BSD IP stack has been superior to the Linux one for a very long time. Here's a story from/. dealing with a record established by NetBSD. The researchers, in the comments, say explicitly that they tested the other OS's as well, and while FreeBSD and NetBSD IP stacks are more or less equivalent, the Linux one performed pretty poorly.
Now that it comes to my mind: the gap is probably not closing, but widening. This is an example of superiority that probably relates specifically to version 5.x.
Btw, benchmarks are important, but personally I've got other reasons to use FreeBSD: stability, reliability, clean and consistent design, and last but not least the less restrictive BSD license (and please, no more discussions on this point: while the restrictions of the GPL might be considered desirable by some people, they're restrictions nonetheless).
"[FreeBSD] has a secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003". The article is from July 2004.
I replied to you because repeating what our troll says (even with the intention of negating it) kinda helps the FUD to spread. At least, this is my impression.
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD
(sarcasm)
You are putting the fight for American Independence and the fight against "Proprietary Software" on the same level??...
Get a life. No, seriously.
Indeed. How nice it would be if the GNU people abandoned this crusading style of theirs, according to which everything that serves to their political purpose is ultimately justified, no matter how disgusting.
Open Source is supposed to be fun.
The problem is, there's somebody for whom Open Source is a goddamn political thing. Hence, all means are legitimate - spreading FUD and violating licenses among these - to get rid of whatever is in the way. The BSD license, much less restrictive than the GPL, is of course one of the first targets.
I don't like it this way. And this is one of the main reasons (the other ones are technical) I steer clear of Linux and GPL'd stuff whenever it's possible. Luckily, it often is.
It's nice to read interviews to the developers of this clean and compact OS (not to mention performant and record-breaking :).
As soon as NetBSD 2.0 comes out I'm gonna install it on my Acer laptop. I don't know if the setup might require some fiddling, but I'm sure that every minute spent to understand this OS would be well worth (as it has been for FreeBSD).
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and the 4th is a bsd as well
This is as serious as the offer that was made to Linux. ;)
No you *can't* rest assured. Here, have a look at what the word "likely" means.
Kudos to who marked a Troll "interesting"... :-/
This is is clearly a Troll.
From the announcement of RC1: "This will likely be the only Release Candidate before the final release of 5.3". The word 'likely' should ring a bell...
In other news, Microsoft has declared they have just improved the network-stack of Windows XP, making it more robust under heavy loads....
Strange... you should be happy, because GNU/Linux can adopt it as well. And it's about time... :)
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
Quote: "FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."
Seriously... It looks like most of you GNU/Linux users hate Microsoft more than you love your OS. I hope I'm wrong, because that would be a bit sad... :-/
I'm still trying to imagine (...) an attractive woman (sorry, can't find the link) in a... flag costume. :)
What about an attractive woman in an orange bikini.
Clean, simple, and tasteful. :)
Also notice that the flag is the surviving element from the old logo - representing the strain to "conquer" new platforms
Choosing a logo with these qualities could be *much* harder than it seems... It's definitely a good pick.
Ehm.. my remark was quite lighthearted as well - I think it should be self-evident.
BSD what? ;-)
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (growing at the rate of half a million a year)
...you seem to have a problem telling trolltalk from facts.
> Holy crap, wow, just amazing! Man, wow!
> Lets see, that's an amazing 6.7% of the web sites out there. Oh... hmmmm, OK.
More properly, that should be modded "Silly" - or "Clueless GNU/Linux zealot". Time for new categories.. :) - because
- Considering the lack of media hype, it *is* indeed an amazing result.
- That link was posted in response to people cluelessly asserting that BSD's dying, and that's indeed a pretty convincing answer, I think, since that number is growing at the rate of half a million a year.
- No one suggests *BSD is the leader in the OS market. The leader is still Windows(TM). Reason? Well, too few competent people around. :)
P.S. Since OpenBSD's the proper topic, let's note that it's getting more and more attention from the specialized press. Here and here are a couple of very recent interviews with the project leader Theo de Raadt, talking about the history and philosophy of OpenBSD.
BSD down the path to oblivion? If by oblivion you mean being more and more used, and getting better and better, then you're definitely right. :-)
?..
I don't know about Matrox, but
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (June 2004)
Excerpt:
"[FreeBSD] has a secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
To sum it up, FreeBSD is growing pretty fast.
Since we are in the Linux section: Of course Linux is growing *faster*. So what? Due to the radical differences between the GPL and BSD license, Linux and *BSDs will always be complementary, by attracting different investors and appealing to different users.
I'm trying to understand the mechanics of this fellow's brain. I'll provide here all the possible explanations I can think of - since mine was indeed a three-word post, their number is actually quite small.
1) It's "Happy".
Maybe my wishing a "happy" birthday instead of a "fairly good birthday", or "decent birthday", sounded like an abuse to everybody in the world who was not particularly happy ("Hey! How dare you talk about happiness when I've just had a goddamn f**kin' day? You're flaming, aren't you!").
2) It's "Birthday".
Maybe the fact that I wished happy birthday to an OS sounds offensive towards real people ("Hey! It's *my* birthday too. How come a f**kin' OS gets more attention than me? That's what I call flaming!").
3) It's "OpenBSD".
Maybe it sounded discriminatory against the other OS's ("Hey! I didn't hear you wish happy birthday to Mandrake! Wanna start a flame?"). More likely, it might have sounded discriminatory against Linux in general, since I'm sure there are at least a dozen distros whose birthday falls on the same day.
Here they are, but I can't really pick. And that's a pity, because I'm really curious about what triggers certain brains.
Oh well...
I already answered you in the thread above (my "Here's a hint." post).
Here's a story from
Now that it comes to my mind: the gap is probably not closing, but widening. This is an example of superiority that probably relates specifically to version 5.x.
Btw, benchmarks are important, but personally I've got other reasons to use FreeBSD: stability, reliability, clean and consistent design, and last but not least the less restrictive BSD license (and please, no more discussions on this point: while the restrictions of the GPL might be considered desirable by some people, they're restrictions nonetheless).
Only a real 'penguinette' can win me over. ;-)
The closest I found is this, even if she's clearly non a real 'penguin'! (it's from the same author of the daemonette above).
(Ok. Enough soft-porn for today.)
"[FreeBSD] has a secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003". The article is from July 2004.
I replied to you because repeating what our troll says (even with the intention of negating it) kinda helps the FUD to spread.
At least, this is my impression.
This alone could be a valid reason to use FreeBSD.
(...albeit not a really serious one...)
Now, point me to a penguinette *this* hot, and I'll try Linux. :-P
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD
... and the mods may as well allow you...
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD
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