I agree that license wars are useless, but GPL being more restrictive than the BSD license is not a matter of opinion, it's a fact (BSD, GPL). So, please, let's be accurate.
In the world there's plenty of room for both licenses. I personally like the purely academic spirit of the BSD license, and personally don't like the huge amount of politics that's contained in the GPL. I obviously prefer open software, but closed sw is also ok, as long as it's *very* good software.
I'm thinking for example about photoshop and apps like that. If I were a professional image editor, if I had to deliver the *best* possible result, I'd prefer a closed source photoshop (or equivalents) than an open source gimp. I'm not criticizing: the gimp folks are doing a *great* job (and to think they're doing it for free), but the other one is just better. That's only an example, and that's why I think crusades against proprietary software are just plain stupid.
Firstly, I don't know if *BSDs have to reboot to replace CPUs. But anyway... being able to replace cpus without rebooting sounds like a *very* peculiar requirement. Beyond some weird exceptional cases, it really sounds like a pretty useless feature.
... I'm gonna be kind, even if sb who calls FreeBSD a "Linux distribution" wouldn't really deserve it.;-)
a) FreeBSD is Berkeley Unix, Linux is a Unix-clone. They look similar to the average user, but deep inside they're two quite different things.
b) the media tend to identify Open Source OS's with Linux because of the community hype - GNU & Linux are about politics as well, thus they attract a wider range of people. BSD is a purely technical and academical thing. These different commitments are well reflected in the 2 licenses: BSD (much simpler and less restrictive) and GPL (an anti-proprietary political manifesto).
c) FreeBSD is quite widely used and, notwithstanding the lack of hype, its user base is growing pretty fast.
Thanks a lot for providing the full picture, and above all for revealing one of the funniest trolls I stumbled into throughout my goddamn internet life. Just FYI, this afternoon I spent a considerable part of my spare time genuinely LMAO. This is indeed a unique specimen, a kind of a troll champion: I thought the "death" troll was hilarious enough, but *this* guy is waaay beyond that... this is another planet altogether.:-D
Come on...
PHK, Long, Watson, DES, Rhodes, and anybody else he names... quickly, you all get out of FreeBSD immediately!
Otherwise, the Troll isn't giving back his enhancements!:-D
Our troll writes: >Linux kernel code is much cleaner than BSDs',
In your dreams.
>because it's peer-reviewed by a huge number of programmers.
This is very true. The fact that 1) there's a huge number of linux programmers and 2) they're peers.
That pretty much sums it up about their skills. I couldn't have said it better myself.:-)
I agree with your post, but I really think this FUD-spreading troll wouldn't deserve such a long answer.
As far as I know, *BSDs are committed to technical excellence, and have an academic spirit that's light-years away from all the proprietary-hating political crap that infests (and sometimes, sadly, characterizes) the linux commmunity. Spreading FUD is a disgusting political act, and it has gone on for so long, and steadily, on this board. Clearly this "troll" has an agenda... But I don't think it's worth taking it personally: *BSD's play in a completely different class.:-)
I've never experienced putting NetBSD (or OpenBSD) machines in a FreeBSD ethernet.
I guess everything should run smoothly after some configuring. But are there any potential issues I'd have to watch for (file system compatibility, etc)?
Do you really think this mindless fool is representing DragonFlyBSD? Or he knows what he's talking about when he speaks against top notch FreeBSD developers? Come on...
The truth is,/. should not allow AC posters. It only gives trolls like this the opportunity to pollute the pleasant & technical BSD discussions with this kind of crap.
What's more disgusting, I think this moron, who's defaming both FreeBSD & DragonFlyBSD developers at the same time, has an agenda. I bet he's the good-old GNU zealot we all know, throwing sh*t at BSD as usual - it has happened for a looong time on this board.
Maybe you're right, he's really starting with a new "campaign". Because the old one, you know, wasn't really that successful.:-D
NetBSD does it again. After the original Internet2 Land Speed Record set in 2004 May 3 was broken, NetBSD shines again: researchers at the Swedish University Network (SUNET) have broken once more the Internet2 Land Speed Record, using the upcoming version, NetBSD 2.0.
The new records are 124.935 Pbmps in a single stream (was 69.073 Pbmps), and 122.367 Pbmps in multiple streams. NetBSD was used once more due to the "scalability of its TCP code".
More information about this record including the NetBSD configuration can be found here for single stream and here for multiple streams. And here is the website of the Internet2 Land Speed Record (I2-LSR) competition.
FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE is an eagerly awaited release in the BSD world (and in the OS world as well, I dare say. Here's why).
Posting a concise message every time a new Beta (or RC) is out is, IMHO, the proper way to let/. BSD readers know that it's out there, and you can play with it, or (better) test it, or (sooo much better) help the developers fix the bugs.
I really fail to see how this can be bothersome. After all, I guess it's in the interest of every reader of/. BSD section that this important release be as good as possible.
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In the world there's plenty of room for both licenses. I personally like the purely academic spirit of the BSD license, and personally don't like the huge amount of politics that's contained in the GPL.
I obviously prefer open software, but closed sw is also ok, as long as it's *very* good software.
I'm thinking for example about photoshop and apps like that. If I were a professional image editor, if I had to deliver the *best* possible result, I'd prefer a closed source photoshop (or equivalents) than an open source gimp. I'm not criticizing: the gimp folks are doing a *great* job (and to think they're doing it for free), but the other one is just better. That's only an example, and that's why I think crusades against proprietary software are just plain stupid.
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD
Maybe somebody should notice that repeating a FUD slogan - even to apparently deny it - is still spreading FUD.
Modding it up, is still spreading FUD.
Apparently somebody thinks this is "funny"... Well, I can just hope some other moderators are a little smarter - or simply more honest. :-/
*cough* I said "no txt".
a) FreeBSD is Berkeley Unix, Linux is a Unix-clone. They look similar to the average user, but deep inside they're two quite different things.
b) the media tend to identify Open Source OS's with Linux because of the community hype - GNU & Linux are about politics as well, thus they attract a wider range of people. BSD is a purely technical and academical thing. These different commitments are well reflected in the 2 licenses: BSD (much simpler and less restrictive) and GPL (an anti-proprietary political manifesto).
c) FreeBSD is quite widely used and, notwithstanding the lack of hype, its user base is growing pretty fast.
Thanks a lot for providing the full picture, and above all for revealing one of the funniest trolls I stumbled into throughout my goddamn internet life. Just FYI, this afternoon I spent a considerable part of my spare time genuinely LMAO. This is indeed a unique specimen, a kind of a troll champion: I thought the "death" troll was hilarious enough, but *this* guy is waaay beyond that... this is another planet altogether. :-D
Happy Birthday OpenBSD!
... and here's a handy collection of all BSD-related articles published on onlamp.
(I'm posting it because the link is not obvious).
Otherwise, the Troll isn't giving back his enhancements!
P.S. He sold 2,000 copies of a *beta* system! :-D
>Linux kernel code is much cleaner than BSDs',
In your dreams.
>because it's peer-reviewed by a huge number of programmers.
This is very true. The fact that 1) there's a huge number of linux programmers and 2) they're peers. :-)
That pretty much sums it up about their skills. I couldn't have said it better myself.
As far as I know, *BSDs are committed to technical excellence, and have an academic spirit that's light-years away from all the proprietary-hating political crap that infests (and sometimes, sadly, characterizes) the linux commmunity. :-)
Spreading FUD is a disgusting political act, and it has gone on for so long, and steadily, on this board. Clearly this "troll" has an agenda... But I don't think it's worth taking it personally: *BSD's play in a completely different class.
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep)
Heh... the harsh truth of software development (and many other sci/tech fields as well): quality and quantity often don't walk hand in hand. :-)
I quickly decided I feel like experimenting it directly :-P
I've never experienced putting NetBSD (or OpenBSD) machines in a FreeBSD ethernet. I guess everything should run smoothly after some configuring. But are there any potential issues I'd have to watch for (file system compatibility, etc)?
Since this is the *BSD section, it makes perfect sense to make the readers aware that a new micro/macro/mini/maxi/nano/mega/pico/giga-release is out.
Do you really think this mindless fool is representing DragonFlyBSD? Or he knows what he's talking about when he speaks against top notch FreeBSD developers? Come on...
The truth is, /. should not allow AC posters. It only gives trolls like this the opportunity to pollute the pleasant & technical BSD discussions with this kind of crap.
What's more disgusting, I think this moron, who's defaming both FreeBSD & DragonFlyBSD developers at the same time, has an agenda. I bet he's the good-old GNU zealot we all know, throwing sh*t at BSD as usual - it has happened for a looong time on this board.
Maybe you're right, he's really starting with a new "campaign". Because the old one, you know, wasn't really that successful. :-D
NetBSD does it again. After the original Internet2 Land Speed Record set in 2004 May 3 was broken, NetBSD shines again: researchers at the Swedish University Network (SUNET) have broken once more the Internet2 Land Speed Record, using the upcoming version, NetBSD 2.0.
The new records are 124.935 Pbmps in a single stream (was 69.073 Pbmps), and 122.367 Pbmps in multiple streams. NetBSD was used once more due to the "scalability of its TCP code".
More information about this record including the NetBSD configuration can be found here for single stream and here for multiple streams. And here is the website of the Internet2 Land Speed Record (I2-LSR) competition.
FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE is an eagerly awaited release in the BSD world (and in the OS world as well, I dare say. Here's why). Posting a concise message every time a new Beta (or RC) is out is, IMHO, the proper way to let /. BSD readers know that it's out there, and you can play with it, or (better) test it, or (sooo much better) help the developers fix the bugs.
I really fail to see how this can be bothersome. After all, I guess it's in the interest of every reader of /. BSD section that this important release be as good as possible.