Is it censorship that Microsoft won't let OEM's dual-boot BeOS on systems that have Windows preloaded?</i><br> <br> It's a misuse of the work censorship... but yes, I think it is. It's the same in spirit.
You'd be on +4, possibly interesting, possibly informative. Then someone trolls you and yo go down one abnd become troll because that's what you were last rated as.
I used to think moderation was defensible. But they need to develop a new system in the slashdot r&d labs quam celerime.
I think that we should discern from antificial market forms created by government intervention and judicial intervention based on principles of fair trade. Government intervention is such behaviour as was very popular in Asa before the collapse, and which your bastard US Government has been using to screw over our agricultural markets. This is in contrast to judicial intervention in the name of free trade. If only the judges could expel Clinton on the same grounds, world trade would be in a far happier state.
Adam Smith himself believed that the worst enemy of capitalism was a successful capitalist - and this is Microsoft. Particfularly when their success is build on corporate muscle, marketing and crap and certainly not technology or 'innovation'.
Compliments to you for having the balls to sign a name to potentially contentious comments.
If we're oging to have this discussion here, I've had some ideas...
<br> <ul> <li>We should move the whole scaling system up by one. Or else move irrelevent trolls down by one. Ie: Make Natalie Portman style spam go to -1. That way you can separate stuff that's merely quite stupid, from stuff that's offensive and irrelevent. <li>Slashdot is disadvantaged by the committment of its patrongs to free speech:) I think the rating system is a good way around this, but numerous forums in recent weeks have been invaded by flame-for-the-sake-of-flame-acs. The moderators don't get enough points to deal with them. <li>Could slashdot consider employing one or two permanent moderators? Lots of people seem unhappy with the moderation system. Of would it be possible to make moderation effect only flamebait, etc. I really don't see the need to highlight comments as 'brilliant' on the page. Let me decide for myself. It I'm only reading comments moderators believe to be 'informed' then I'm getting half the story. God knows I've seen some absolutely filthy crap posted by shoot-from-the-hip uninformed idiots be marked up to 'informed' or 'interesting' on topics I have an understanding of and this doens't give me much confidence in those ratings for forums on topics about which I don't already have a good backgroud knowledge. If any particularly good comments come up, put them on a separate summary page.<br> <li>Can the details of particularly bad spammers be put up on a page somewhere so the rest of us can come up with interesting ways of dealing with them, please?<br> </ul>
This is somewhat offtopic, but I hope interesting.
I recently dug up an old gravis sound card of mine for nostalga and to see if I could get it working. Its driver support these days is basically non-existant, I've heard it can be made to sort of work under Win95, but I use NT for games and asp and BeOS for everythingelse so it wasn't much good. But I was browsing the cd that came with it and it had heaps of demos on it. So I reloaded a couple f versions of DOS onto my machine with kick disks to see if I could get them working. I got the gravis a couple of really neat future crew demos working.
My question is this: What's happened to the demo scene? I would have throught that a modern operating system like linux (without X) would have been an ideal platform for demo programmres, yet haven't heard any references to demos since Win32 has been around. Was there somehing about DOS that demo coders needed to make writing their stuff worthewhile and possible? What would it take to turn another OS (linux or Be) into a good demo platform?
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The merger is not the end of the world, but it is disturbing. Perhaps Katz reaction is a little over the edge of the world, but I've learn from things involving freedoms (in my case censorship) that it's people like Katz responding strongly to the small wrongs that keep all of us free. Katz is on exactly the right track, and his sentiments are well developed.
>know why seti@home and distributed.net don't >release their source code? It is because the chance >of people hacking the code and wrecking the >system outway the benefits of letting people have >access to the code.
No.
It is one of the basic rules of producing a secure system that you assume that your code and model is and will be open for anybody to look at. You have to make it secure with this assumption. Things are too easy to reverse engineer for it to be worth your time pretending you have some sort of 'secret' approach.
In Australia atm there is a huge furor about marketing tactics used through prominent radio personalities. There's a Sydney talkback personality called John Laws who has become renoun for his near-baseless and irrational but extremely influential criticisms of policy, etc. His rating are amazing. However our ever diligent "Media-Watch" program uncovered a scheme whereby he waqs being paid to participate in 'subtle' advertising tachniques. Optus, or the Banks' lobby group, or Qantus or a number of other companies would pay him several hundred thousand dollars in return for a 'spontaneous' piece of praise of mention of their services, products or reputation. But boy, is he screwed now that it's out in public!
I mean here's a marketing guy trying to defend his product. A noble cause, nothing wrong with that, but the tactics used are nothing short of disgusting. Admittedly, used right they WORK, but still...
I think this is a case of someone just being caught in the act. Obviously, the marketing guy is a bit clueless, since he admitted his guilt via e-mail, and didn't realize how disturbing this was to the internet user psyche.
Absolutely! It's important we keep this in prespective and see a larger problem rather than scapegoat one guy. I mean, part of what he was doing was somewhat tongue in cheek. If I was gong to fake comments (and I've never done it, but we've lall thought about how it wold be done), I'd do a hell of a lot better than he did, but maybe it just became something of a game between him and Hannibal (arstechnica writer).
I mean - his comments made it pretty obvious that there was a connection between the email exchange and the posts.
But what's to say I'm not just saying this to protect him?:):) My IP traces to Australia and this account has a karma of 3:):)
Having said that, there is some validity in the previous post's statement.
Computer architectures are substantially better documented than the human mind, and there are probably better ways of getting things done on them than chanting prayers. That doesn't stpo people trying to program in Perl for Win32 though.
When it comes to religion, I'm fairly progressive
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Willing yourself to be better is nothing to do with god or praying.
Doesn't it? I tend to consider myself religious in a reasonably spun out way, and I think that that's exactly what praying is about. Coming to terms with the wierd stuff at the back of your mind that you know is there, and want to influence, but don't understand. Look at the rosary. When you're trying to think about something deeply and properly, there's nothing better than those sort of all physical, repetitious tasks to get the brain moving. Whenever I'm thinking about something, I pace, and chuck a pen up in the air and catch it. It's crazy, I know, but it works. (Grant generalisation oncoming) Religion is all about using whatever means you can to make yourself a better person. (Craig has spoken) You've got to love these spun out debates.
Duh, its a beta.. and BeOS has not proven to be the most stable OS. (Though, crashes no LESS stable than Netscape..)
I'm guessing that wasn't a troll, so just let me ask, how has Be failed to be anything but the most stable OS? The only time I've ever had any trouble with is was with the NTFS drive patch (which has nothing to do with Be - it's free on Beware. Opera is a bit buggy, although I echo your sentiments about how nice it is (although my primary browser is still Net+. Yeah, but you're the first person I've encounterede to have had stability problems with Be.
As far as I can tell SGI is a hardware company. That would be bad for the future of Red Hat to be tied down to making decisions based on the situation of its hardware rather than software, because of the balance of income coming from the divisions... Stay a purely software company (except for those groovy Akubras)
I cna't agree with this. You list the imprortant features of a desktop OS being:
The cost
Hardware support
Software support
I can't see the cost argument. Some linux distributons cost more tan BeOS, and people willingy buy Windows 9x which is two and a half times as expensive as Be, or even NT, which is ten times as much. I also believe hardware support has almost stoppoed being a barrier for Be. I think the latest release really has brought it up. The only place where it really still does need improvement is in 3d support. But it's quite useable atm. Your software support criticism is valid. Hopefully the next version of Gobe will tidy up the couple of significant shortfalls it currently has (it's preview page certainly indicates this and more) so that productivity is up to scratch. The other thing both Be and linux need, and which has been talked up on this forum heaps recentl is browser support. But Be Mozilla is only a tiny bit behind the rest.
I strongly agree with what Luke said: Be outstrips linux as a desktop OS even right now. I can install it with a bit of dial up networking support on a computer illiterate friend's PC and just let them go. They are satisfied with the interface, and changing basic settings. With linux the learning curve, etc for a desktop OS is far far higher. As Luke said, Be and linux have the potential to be a rock solid combination for client/server combinations, and I'd really like to see greater integration through networking, applications, etc between the two of them.
The government was trying to get a tax bill through the Senate, and they needed this guy's vote. Hence, from absolutely nowhere, this ridiculous Bill was rushed through.
No, this s just bullshit. I am sick and tired of having to correct people on slashdot with huge opinions and no facts behind them. Haradine (the independent to which Goonie is referring) did not vote for the tax package. Another balance of power party, the left-leaning Democrats voted it in. And they voted against the internet censorship bill. And they voted against it long after it was clear that the internet censorship bill was going to get through. The bill was not, as previous posts have suggested - one senator's 'crusade'. Much more worryingly, it was put together by a committee containing members from several sides.
I'm surpriesd nobody has mentioned tt. The engine it had when it was released for DOS was just incredible. The designers had written (in assembler, no less - I'm pretty sure it was anyway) a neat little windowing system, where you could have subwindows showing the action on vehicles in other parts of the map siting over the main view. It was just amazing. So smooth, almost bug-free (and many of the bugs there were were fun, interesting) and incredibly playable. In fact tt-deluxe was in some ways less fun because you couldn't do some of the nasty corporate things that yo cold get away with in tt, like demolishing into cities to build rail yards, or buying up land next to your competitors rail stubs and releasing your own trains onto them:):). I never got into railway tycoon but played tt to death. Does anybody know what happened to the main author? I've never heard of him (Syd Mier?) since...
I'mn pretty sure that IBM's workspace on demand would like up to your requirements. It has excellent support for Java (and what doesn't have good support for html), plus it is an established architecture. It's based on OS/2 (don't hold that against it - for specifica tasks OS/2 is excellent). It's a really smart system, and now that Netscape finally have a latest tgeneration and actually stable browser running on the platform, it is quite usable.
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Call me stupid... but what's the significance of the PMRC?
Is it censorship that Microsoft won't let OEM's dual-boot BeOS on
systems that have Windows preloaded?</i><br>
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It's a misuse of the work censorship... but yes, I think it is. It's the same in spirit.
You'd be on +4, possibly interesting, possibly informative. Then someone trolls you and yo go down one abnd become troll because that's what you were last rated as.
I used to think moderation was defensible. But they need to develop a new system in the slashdot r&d labs quam celerime.
I think that we should discern from antificial market forms created by government intervention and judicial intervention based on principles of fair trade. Government intervention is such behaviour as was very popular in Asa before the collapse, and which your bastard US Government has been using to screw over our agricultural markets. This is in contrast to judicial intervention in the name of free trade. If only the judges could expel Clinton on the same grounds, world trade would be in a far happier state.
Adam Smith himself believed that the worst enemy of capitalism was a successful capitalist - and this is Microsoft. Particfularly when their success is build on corporate muscle, marketing and crap and certainly not technology or 'innovation'.
Compliments to you for having the balls to sign a name to potentially contentious comments.
If we're oging to have this discussion here, I've had some ideas...
:) I think the rating system is a good way around this, but numerous forums in recent weeks have been invaded by flame-for-the-sake-of-flame-acs. The moderators don't get enough points to deal with them.
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<ul>
<li>We should move the whole scaling system up by one. Or else move irrelevent trolls down by one. Ie: Make Natalie Portman style spam go to -1. That way you can separate stuff that's merely quite stupid, from stuff that's offensive and irrelevent.
<li>Slashdot is disadvantaged by the committment of its patrongs to free speech
<li>Could slashdot consider employing one or two permanent moderators? Lots of people seem unhappy with the moderation system. Of would it be possible to make moderation effect only flamebait, etc. I really don't see the need to highlight comments as 'brilliant' on the page. Let me decide for myself. It I'm only reading comments moderators believe to be 'informed' then I'm getting half the story. God knows I've seen some absolutely filthy crap posted by shoot-from-the-hip uninformed idiots be marked up to 'informed' or 'interesting' on topics I have an understanding of and this doens't give me much confidence in those ratings for forums on topics about which I don't already have a good backgroud knowledge. If any particularly good comments come up, put them on a separate summary page.<br>
<li>Can the details of particularly bad spammers be put up on a page somewhere so the rest of us can come up with interesting ways of dealing with them, please?<br>
</ul>
This is somewhat offtopic, but I hope interesting.
I recently dug up an old gravis sound card of mine for nostalga and to see if I could get it working. Its driver support these days is basically non-existant, I've heard it can be made to sort of work under Win95, but I use NT for games and asp and BeOS for everythingelse so it wasn't much good. But I was browsing the cd that came with it and it had heaps of demos on it. So I reloaded a couple f versions of DOS onto my machine with kick disks to see if I could get them working. I got the gravis a couple of really neat future crew demos working.
My question is this: What's happened to the demo scene? I would have throught that a modern operating system like linux (without X) would have been an ideal platform for demo programmres, yet haven't heard any references to demos since Win32 has been around. Was there somehing about DOS that demo coders needed to make writing their stuff worthewhile and possible? What would it take to turn another OS (linux or Be) into a good demo platform?
The merger is not the end of the world, but it is disturbing. Perhaps Katz reaction is a little over the edge of the world, but I've learn from things involving freedoms (in my case censorship) that it's people like Katz responding strongly to the small wrongs that keep all of us free. Katz is on exactly the right track, and his sentiments are well developed.
;)
>know why seti@home and distributed.net don't
>release their source code? It is because the chance
>of people hacking the code and wrecking the
>system outway the benefits of letting people have
>access to the code.
No.
It is one of the basic rules of producing a secure system that you assume that your code and model is and will be open for anybody to look at. You have to make it secure with this assumption. Things are too easy to reverse engineer for it to be worth your time pretending you have some sort of 'secret' approach.
In Australia atm there is a huge furor about marketing tactics used through prominent radio personalities. There's a Sydney talkback personality called John Laws who has become renoun for his near-baseless and irrational but extremely influential criticisms of policy, etc. His rating are amazing. However our ever diligent "Media-Watch" program uncovered a scheme whereby he waqs being paid to participate in 'subtle' advertising tachniques. Optus, or the Banks' lobby group, or Qantus or a number of other companies would pay him several hundred thousand dollars in return for a 'spontaneous' piece of praise of mention of their services, products or reputation. But boy, is he screwed now that it's out in public!
I mean here's a marketing guy trying to defend his product. A noble cause, nothing wrong with that, but the tactics used are nothing short of disgusting. Admittedly, used right they WORK, but still...
I think this is a case of someone just being caught in the act. Obviously, the marketing guy is a bit clueless, since he admitted his guilt via e-mail, and didn't realize how disturbing this was to the internet user psyche.
Absolutely! It's important we keep this in prespective and see a larger problem rather than scapegoat one guy. I mean, part of what he was doing was somewhat tongue in cheek. If I was gong to fake comments (and I've never done it, but we've lall thought about how it wold be done), I'd do a hell of a lot better than he did, but maybe it just became something of a game between him and Hannibal (arstechnica writer).
I mean - his comments made it pretty obvious that there was a connection between the email exchange and the posts.
But what's to say I'm not just saying this to protect him?
Having said that, there is some validity in the previous post's statement.
Computer architectures are substantially better documented than the human mind, and there are probably better ways of getting things done on them than chanting prayers. That doesn't stpo people trying to program in Perl for Win32 though.
Doesn't it? I tend to consider myself religious in a reasonably spun out way, and I think that that's exactly what praying is about. Coming to terms with the wierd stuff at the back of your mind that you know is there, and want to influence, but don't understand. Look at the rosary. When you're trying to think about something deeply and properly, there's nothing better than those sort of all physical, repetitious tasks to get the brain moving. Whenever I'm thinking about something, I pace, and chuck a pen up in the air and catch it. It's crazy, I know, but it works. (Grant generalisation oncoming) Religion is all about using whatever means you can to make yourself a better person. (Craig has spoken) You've got to love these spun out debates.
Hell - if anybody can do a decent port of PHP4 for Robin Hood, I'll have ther children*.
* conditions apply
OK... if you're feeling is that way, would you embrace a linux port of something like Cold Fusion ahead of php4?
- 1. Crashed a few times.
I'm guessing that wasn't a troll, so just let me ask, how has Be failed to be anything but the most stable OS? The only time I've ever had any trouble with is was with the NTFS drive patch (which has nothing to do with Be - it's free on Beware. Opera is a bit buggy, although I echo your sentiments about how nice it is (although my primary browser is still Net+. Yeah, but you're the first person I've encounterede to have had stability problems with Be.Duh, its a beta.. and BeOS has not proven to be the most stable OS.
(Though, crashes no
LESS stable than Netscape..)
I thought QT alread yhad been gpl'ed... where am I going wrong here?
As far as I can tell SGI is a hardware company. That would be bad for the future of Red Hat to be tied down to making decisions based on the situation of its hardware rather than software, because of the balance of income coming from the divisions... Stay a purely software company (except for those groovy Akubras)
more hardware and software. "
I cna't agree with this. You list the imprortant features of a desktop OS being:
I can't see the cost argument. Some linux distributons cost more tan BeOS, and people willingy buy Windows 9x which is two and a half times as expensive as Be, or even NT, which is ten times as much. I also believe hardware support has almost stoppoed being a barrier for Be. I think the latest release really has brought it up. The only place where it really still does need improvement is in 3d support. But it's quite useable atm. Your software support criticism is valid. Hopefully the next version of Gobe will tidy up the couple of significant shortfalls it currently has (it's preview page certainly indicates this and more) so that productivity is up to scratch. The other thing both Be and linux need, and which has been talked up on this forum heaps recentl is browser support. But Be Mozilla is only a tiny bit behind the rest.
I strongly agree with what Luke said: Be outstrips linux as a desktop OS even right now. I can install it with a bit of dial up networking support on a computer illiterate friend's PC and just let them go. They are satisfied with the interface, and changing basic settings. With linux the learning curve, etc for a desktop OS is far far higher. As Luke said, Be and linux have the potential to be a rock solid combination for client/server combinations, and I'd really like to see greater integration through networking, applications, etc between the two of them.
"Want to make spoons?" - Butch, _Pulp_Fiction_
I've spent the last decade awiting for a good outcome today.
No, this s just bullshit. I am sick and tired of having to correct people on slashdot with huge opinions and no facts behind them. Haradine (the independent to which Goonie is referring) did not vote for the tax package. Another balance of power party, the left-leaning Democrats voted it in. And they voted against the internet censorship bill. And they voted against it long after it was clear that the internet censorship bill was going to get through. The bill was not, as previous posts have suggested - one senator's 'crusade'. Much more worryingly, it was put together by a committee containing members from several sides.
* Quasi-legal - Just one calorie!
I'm surpriesd nobody has mentioned tt. The engine it had when it was released for DOS was just incredible. The designers had written (in assembler, no less - I'm pretty sure it was anyway) a neat little windowing system, where you could have subwindows showing the action on vehicles in other parts of the map siting over the main view. It was just amazing. So smooth, almost bug-free (and many of the bugs there were were fun, interesting) and incredibly playable. In fact tt-deluxe was in some ways less fun because you couldn't do some of the nasty corporate things that yo cold get away with in tt, like demolishing into cities to build rail yards, or buying up land next to your competitors rail stubs and releasing your own trains onto them :) :). I never got into railway tycoon but played tt to death. Does anybody know what happened to the main author? I've never heard of him (Syd Mier?) since...
I'mn pretty sure that IBM's workspace on demand would like up to your requirements. It has excellent support for Java (and what doesn't have good support for html), plus it is an established architecture. It's based on OS/2 (don't hold that against it - for specifica tasks OS/2 is excellent). It's a really smart system, and now that Netscape finally have a latest tgeneration and actually stable browser running on the platform, it is quite usable.