Shouldn't they be saying: "I'm going to use the old FCP until all of these specific issues are resolved to my satisfaction.If that never happens I will have to look at other options."
No. Because professional users shouldn't expect to ever see those updates--especially since there is no official promise on Apple's part to introduce them... ever.
People are *ASSUMING* that Apple will re-introduce these missing features. But Apple hasn't said that. And before FCP-X was announced people *ASSUMED* that it would be a professional app that reaffirmed Apple's commitment to its professional users. Instead they got iMoviePro.
That destroys people's trust in a company when you wait patiently for years holding onto increasingly outdated tech only to have the replacement end up being even less impressive.
There are excellent and superior alternatives...and there have been for some time. It was only loyalty to Apple that kept a lot of these people around. Loyalty and the *assumption* that Apple wouldn't let them down when they finally delivered.
Apple finally showed its hand and it had evidently been bluffing for the last 2 years. When you're betrayed like that your reaction shouldn't be to keep using the old junker--hoping you don't get screwed again, you should switch at the earliest convenience.
And somehow this situation is tremendously different from a week or so ago before the release of Final Cut X?
I'm actually not a FCP user, I switched years ago when it started stagnating and everyone else continued to innovate but I have many professional FCP editors for friends and I think I can repeat pretty well why they've stuck around until now unlike me.
1) Last week you could buy more seats of your software as you hire more freelancers, staff up or buy more workstations. 2) Last week you could hold out hope that FCP-X was going to "Revolutionize Editing" for the better. 3) They are Apple fans, they love Apple's products and they believe Apple it committed to the professional market and hold some sort of 'loyalty' to the professional industry which kept Apple afloat in the 'dark times' when everyone else switched to PC.
Essentially last week you could hold out hope that you were a week away from a FCP Renaissance that would reaffirm Apple's commitment to its pro-user customer base and make up for the years of neglect. This week you know exactly what you're getting and you now know it's incompatible with the previous version.
For years people have been saying. "You just have to give Apple time, the reason the pro-apps division has been so slow and inattentive isn't because of a shift in focus to consumers instead of professionals. It's the calm before the storm, soon you'll see that Apple has been working secretly behind the scenes to rebuild FCP from the ground up. And then all you doubters will see the error in your ways."
2 years later... "Introducing iMoviePro!"
Apple is getting slapped by the "I told you so." crowd and all of the loyal followers who had been defending Apple for years insisting that Apple was still serious about its professional software division.
I certainly fall into the 'I told you so' crowd. Why? Because I was a Shake user. Apple buys shake. Apple stops supporting Shake but all of the murmurs are "oh but just you wait for Phenomenon. They're rewriting shake from the ground up to blow your socks off." We got a few updates to Motion.
Apple isn't interested in serving the high-end market. There is nothing wrong with that. But the sooner people accept that, the sooner they'll stop being continually disappointed by Apple not serving their needs.
Last week people thought Apple was still serious about the pro-division. This week everyone is pretty much on the same page that Apple is sending not-so-subtle hints that they would rather add Facebook Integration than add the features that Pro users are wanting.
Also Apple's secrecy is killing their good will with the industry. They evidently never brought in 3rd party developers during development to start writing their tools. None of the developers who have to fill in the holes were given a chance start working with FCP-X months ago to have their solutions ready for release. Again, that kind of thing just doesn't fly in the professional industry. You provide roadmaps, you bring in your partners early and on your ship date everybody is ready. We don't like to be surprised be when we're surprised we can't prepare.
They've brought this upon themselves and a vocal official commitment to professional users is what's needed. This won't happen though since that would be antithetical to Apple's culture of secrecy and surprise announcements. Professional users need to not just be told through a NYT blogger that XYZ feature is coming. They need estimates of when and in what form it'll be delivered.
I use everything under the sun. But professionals would be foolish *TO* use this one in their toolbox. Why? Because you can't use it WITH ANY OTHER TOOL.
I've bent over backwards before to integrate some nifty little tool into my kit. But FCP X is overtly attempting to be incompatible with everything else. It isn't even compatible with FCP.
Stand alone, walled gardens are great if you can do everything in the garden. But professionals have to collaborate with lots of other tools, workflows, clients, hardware and applications. If you're editing in FCP 7 and the color or sound tools are insufficient you can just export your project and finish in another app. If you get stuck and FCP-X doesn't cut it-- you're stuck with data you can't get out and finish on something else.
Add to that its new media management system which is antagonistic to the standard SAN/Shared Drive workflow and you're left with an application which doesn't want to play nice with other computers or even copies of itself.
When there are other superior and ready competitors who don't make you guess when and if they'll support your work available TODAY you would be a fool to not switch to the ready and willing competitors.
- You'll be stuck with an application which hasn't seen serious updates in over 2 years, it won't continue to support the latest codec updates for things like Red footage and get the features. - You won't be able to open your projects in FCP-X once it does reach feature maturity. - You can't buy copies of FCP 7 so if you need another license you're SOL. - You could be using an application *now* which has everything that FCP-X promises in the future. - You may never see some features return and Apple isn't providing any roadmaps like other companies on what and when they intend to release. - You are now waiting on a company which has made through action and lack of communication perfectly clear that they aren't targeting your market sector anymore. Motion is evidently a perfectly reasonable replacement for Shake according to Apple. If you disagree with Apple on that point... I wouldn't stick around waiting for pro features to find their way back into FCP-X... ever.
It would have been like if Vista had been released and Microsoft had stopped supporting XP that same day.
Maybe not Bicycle per-say but I did think after Fukishima that they should have a giant gear and clutch system somewhere.
Tear apart your nearest semi-truck, rip out its drive shaft and weld it in. Assuming the clutch wasn't knocked out (or assuming you couldn't beat it with sledge hammers until it engages) it seems like an easier fix than getting particular electrical systems to talk to one another.
Sometimes a mechanical solution seems like it would be the best most warranted solution just as a final last failsafe.
Granted, I understand that most people here would view a newspaper in Pakistan as not the most credible source for news, but I believe this newspaper to be a credible one, and they do not appear to be in the business of conspiracy theories.
âoeIf youâ(TM)re still living under the delusion that the TSA is just restricted to airports then think again. A joint VIPR âoesecurity exerciseâ involving military personnel has Transportation Security Administration workers covering 5,000 miles and three states, illustrating once again how the TSA is turning into a literal occupying army for domestic repression in America."
"But, with an already documented 35% increase in the infant mortality rate for American mothers living in the western coastal regions of the US caused by radiation blowing onto them from Japan being ignored by these people there doesnâ(TM)t seem to be much hope for them."
No they aren't paranoid, they just think the TSA is an occupying military force *cough splutter laugh* and that infant mortality is secretly up 35% in the US.
Yes and No. I've beaten my head against developers who see their code as sacred and are unwilling to put it in the hands of users.
That obsession with perfection can often prevent "good enough" software from being put to good use "before it's ready". And then I often find that the developers are working in too much isolation and lose the incredibly valuable feedback from being used 'in the wild'.
Won't happen. Apple depends on its iDrones to buy a new iDevice every 12-18 months.
People just simply don't spend that on TVs. People probably on average buy a new TV (even Apple fans) every 3-4 years--if that.
Why sell a $2.5k item with razor thin margins that is almost never replaced? Apple has been really savvy on selling items that do legitimately offer something new every 12 months--and at huge profit margins.
A Z-Buffer is a possible output from this camera but it does way cooler than just depth information. The problem with pure depth is that if you have something like a chainlink fence you don't know what's behind it if it's in focus. With this camera it captures 'around' the chain-link fence and sees what's behind it so that you can throw it out of focus.
Not even really. Silverlight was (and is) an alternative to its contemporary competitors: Flash and Javascript.
It offered a superior offering. Now HTML 5, almost five years later is offering something new and advantageous in the form of native support on multiple platforms/form factors.
Encryption in DRM is a waste. of. time. The *only* thing it accomplishes is vendor lock-in for the maker of the DRM-encumbered platform. If you think encryption in DRM protects content providers, then you don't know what you're talking about.
Inevitably content gets ripped, true. But the goal is often to discourage the casual effort.
There are sites which let you download a YouTube link to watch on a future date offline. I know of no such site for Netflix. There might be a way to do it but it's not going to be trivial. It would be easier as you mention to just torrent it from another source.
I don't anybody personally who has ever ripped a Netflix Instant stream. That sounds like a successful operation to me.
Now all we need is Netflix to abandon Silverlight...
... when an alternative comes along.
The alternative is flash. If Microsoft had rewritten Live Drive for flash there would be a concern. But HTML 5 doesn't offer the same level of encryption as Silverlight.
I think this is what we'll see more of. There are going to be less and less places where it makes sense to use a non-standard dev environment instead of HTML5 (Remember flash drop down menus etc?). But that doesn't mean that there won't be areas where it's better to use a plugin like silverlight. Those areas will just be less and less as HTML evolves but for now we'll see Silverlight and Flash continue to evolve.
My point wasn't whether or whether not Oracle has a case. The question is whether or not Oracle is *wrong* to attempt to extract licensing fees on principle.
On principle the idea that infinite free promotion is useful. I can't buy a lunch or make a car payment with self promotion.
Eventually that 'popularity' has to translate into revenue.
Sure the could give away Java and it would be hugely popular. But "Hugely Popular" doesn't make them any money. 0% of infinity is still $0.
Currently Google is paying $0 for each java license. If Java just becomes "The android language" and they continue collecting $0 why should they care.
It's kind of like the people who try to use photos without the photographers permission. "Hey but you're getting free exposure." "You know what's better than free exposure? Buying stock photos." Exposure is only worth something if it translates eventually into sales.
By the way this story probably went down this way for 1 reason: IT would lose resources to something that "wasn't their problem".
The cost to IT for installing 7zip was $0. The potential cost to IT for a random program >$1.
Not to mention the non-zero time of logging in and installing an app and then maybe uninstalling it if they were really worried.
So from IT's perspective the incentives are to do nothing. From the department's perspective they spent 2 hours trying to find a work around. We spent an hour trying to find a workaround. All told the cost of this one problem was >$200 but it cost IT nothing.
IT should be a service within the company. If you need something installed--charge by the hour. Then the incentive is to assist instead of saying NO.
We send them a file. They can't open it. 7Zip would be able to open it (since it can pretty much open every compressed format unlike the built in Windows unzip which is great with Windows Zipped files.) (BTW we didn't zip it, but we confirmed 7zip could open it.)
Their IT staff says "NO" to installing 7Zip on any of their computers. The deadline was for 2 days later. They faced 1 of 2 options:
We unzip it, put it on a couple DVDs and overnight FedEx it for $30.
They download it off of our FTP for 12 hours on their slow connection and have almost no time to verify it the next day.
I guess a couple hours later they finally bribed someone in IT or performed sexual favors or God knows what but IT relented and they got 7Zip installed.
5 minute problem: 2 hours-12 hour solution bracket. So when people hear that they could use their normal computers but some sort of cloud solution through a browser they get very excited.
$2B in loan guarantees is not $2B in cost. Unless the plant goes belly-up, which should be a low-probability event for something this simple. The expected-value of the cost on this probably about $50-100M, so the gov't is effectively spending about $1k per house.
Right, I was just curious though what the actual cost of the project was that we were guaranteeing in the interest of seeing how competitive it was with coal.
Slashdot Mirror
Just buy premiere. It's pretty much exactly the same as the old FCP but better.
90% of people DONT need multicam, DONT need XML, and DONT even need tape any more.
Another way to look at it is 100% of professional post houses need Multicam, XML and tape.
If Apple doesn't want to be a pro-tools vendor anymore, that's fine. They just need to stop stringing people along.
Shouldn't they be saying: "I'm going to use the old FCP until all of these specific issues are resolved to my satisfaction.If that never happens I will have to look at other options."
No. Because professional users shouldn't expect to ever see those updates--especially since there is no official promise on Apple's part to introduce them... ever.
People are *ASSUMING* that Apple will re-introduce these missing features. But Apple hasn't said that. And before FCP-X was announced people *ASSUMED* that it would be a professional app that reaffirmed Apple's commitment to its professional users. Instead they got iMoviePro.
That destroys people's trust in a company when you wait patiently for years holding onto increasingly outdated tech only to have the replacement end up being even less impressive.
There are excellent and superior alternatives...and there have been for some time. It was only loyalty to Apple that kept a lot of these people around. Loyalty and the *assumption* that Apple wouldn't let them down when they finally delivered.
Apple finally showed its hand and it had evidently been bluffing for the last 2 years. When you're betrayed like that your reaction shouldn't be to keep using the old junker--hoping you don't get screwed again, you should switch at the earliest convenience.
And somehow this situation is tremendously different from a week or so ago before the release of Final Cut X?
I'm actually not a FCP user, I switched years ago when it started stagnating and everyone else continued to innovate but I have many professional FCP editors for friends and I think I can repeat pretty well why they've stuck around until now unlike me.
1) Last week you could buy more seats of your software as you hire more freelancers, staff up or buy more workstations.
2) Last week you could hold out hope that FCP-X was going to "Revolutionize Editing" for the better.
3) They are Apple fans, they love Apple's products and they believe Apple it committed to the professional market and hold some sort of 'loyalty' to the professional industry which kept Apple afloat in the 'dark times' when everyone else switched to PC.
Essentially last week you could hold out hope that you were a week away from a FCP Renaissance that would reaffirm Apple's commitment to its pro-user customer base and make up for the years of neglect. This week you know exactly what you're getting and you now know it's incompatible with the previous version.
For years people have been saying.
"You just have to give Apple time, the reason the pro-apps division has been so slow and inattentive isn't because of a shift in focus to consumers instead of professionals. It's the calm before the storm, soon you'll see that Apple has been working secretly behind the scenes to rebuild FCP from the ground up. And then all you doubters will see the error in your ways."
2 years later...
"Introducing iMoviePro!"
Apple is getting slapped by the "I told you so." crowd and all of the loyal followers who had been defending Apple for years insisting that Apple was still serious about its professional software division.
I certainly fall into the 'I told you so' crowd. Why? Because I was a Shake user. Apple buys shake. Apple stops supporting Shake but all of the murmurs are "oh but just you wait for Phenomenon. They're rewriting shake from the ground up to blow your socks off." We got a few updates to Motion.
Apple isn't interested in serving the high-end market. There is nothing wrong with that. But the sooner people accept that, the sooner they'll stop being continually disappointed by Apple not serving their needs.
Last week people thought Apple was still serious about the pro-division. This week everyone is pretty much on the same page that Apple is sending not-so-subtle hints that they would rather add Facebook Integration than add the features that Pro users are wanting.
Also Apple's secrecy is killing their good will with the industry. They evidently never brought in 3rd party developers during development to start writing their tools. None of the developers who have to fill in the holes were given a chance start working with FCP-X months ago to have their solutions ready for release. Again, that kind of thing just doesn't fly in the professional industry. You provide roadmaps, you bring in your partners early and on your ship date everybody is ready. We don't like to be surprised be when we're surprised we can't prepare.
They've brought this upon themselves and a vocal official commitment to professional users is what's needed. This won't happen though since that would be antithetical to Apple's culture of secrecy and surprise announcements. Professional users need to not just be told through a NYT blogger that XYZ feature is coming. They need estimates of when and in what form it'll be delivered.
I use everything under the sun. But professionals would be foolish *TO* use this one in their toolbox. Why? Because you can't use it WITH ANY OTHER TOOL.
I've bent over backwards before to integrate some nifty little tool into my kit. But FCP X is overtly attempting to be incompatible with everything else. It isn't even compatible with FCP.
Stand alone, walled gardens are great if you can do everything in the garden. But professionals have to collaborate with lots of other tools, workflows, clients, hardware and applications. If you're editing in FCP 7 and the color or sound tools are insufficient you can just export your project and finish in another app. If you get stuck and FCP-X doesn't cut it-- you're stuck with data you can't get out and finish on something else.
Add to that its new media management system which is antagonistic to the standard SAN/Shared Drive workflow and you're left with an application which doesn't want to play nice with other computers or even copies of itself.
When there are other superior and ready competitors who don't make you guess when and if they'll support your work available TODAY you would be a fool to not switch to the ready and willing competitors.
You could continue using FCP 7 but...
- You'll be stuck with an application which hasn't seen serious updates in over 2 years, it won't continue to support the latest codec updates for things like Red footage and get the features.
- You won't be able to open your projects in FCP-X once it does reach feature maturity.
- You can't buy copies of FCP 7 so if you need another license you're SOL.
- You could be using an application *now* which has everything that FCP-X promises in the future.
- You may never see some features return and Apple isn't providing any roadmaps like other companies on what and when they intend to release.
- You are now waiting on a company which has made through action and lack of communication perfectly clear that they aren't targeting your market sector anymore. Motion is evidently a perfectly reasonable replacement for Shake according to Apple. If you disagree with Apple on that point... I wouldn't stick around waiting for pro features to find their way back into FCP-X... ever.
It would have been like if Vista had been released and Microsoft had stopped supporting XP that same day.
Like all other browsers, they want you to default to Bing Search.
Maybe not Bicycle per-say but I did think after Fukishima that they should have a giant gear and clutch system somewhere.
Tear apart your nearest semi-truck, rip out its drive shaft and weld it in. Assuming the clutch wasn't knocked out (or assuming you couldn't beat it with sledge hammers until it engages) it seems like an easier fix than getting particular electrical systems to talk to one another.
Sometimes a mechanical solution seems like it would be the best most warranted solution just as a final last failsafe.
Granted, I understand that most people here would view a newspaper in Pakistan as not the most credible source for news, but I believe this newspaper to be a credible one, and they do not appear to be in the business of conspiracy theories.
âoeIf youâ(TM)re still living under the delusion that the TSA is just restricted to airports then think again. A joint VIPR âoesecurity exerciseâ involving military personnel has Transportation Security Administration workers covering 5,000 miles and three states, illustrating once again how the TSA is turning into a literal occupying army for domestic repression in America."
"But, with an already documented 35% increase in the infant mortality rate for American mothers living in the western coastal regions of the US caused by radiation blowing onto them from Japan being ignored by these people there doesnâ(TM)t seem to be much hope for them."
No they aren't paranoid, they just think the TSA is an occupying military force *cough splutter laugh* and that infant mortality is secretly up 35% in the US.
Not paranoid at all.
I desperately hope I was missing your sarcasm.
Yes and No. I've beaten my head against developers who see their code as sacred and are unwilling to put it in the hands of users.
That obsession with perfection can often prevent "good enough" software from being put to good use "before it's ready". And then I often find that the developers are working in too much isolation and lose the incredibly valuable feedback from being used 'in the wild'.
The photo was digital. The watermark was digital. What part was analog?
Won't happen. Apple depends on its iDrones to buy a new iDevice every 12-18 months.
People just simply don't spend that on TVs. People probably on average buy a new TV (even Apple fans) every 3-4 years--if that.
Why sell a $2.5k item with razor thin margins that is almost never replaced? Apple has been really savvy on selling items that do legitimately offer something new every 12 months--and at huge profit margins.
A Z-Buffer is a possible output from this camera but it does way cooler than just depth information. The problem with pure depth is that if you have something like a chainlink fence you don't know what's behind it if it's in focus. With this camera it captures 'around' the chain-link fence and sees what's behind it so that you can throw it out of focus.
Sometimes we bet on the wrong technology.
Not even really. Silverlight was (and is) an alternative to its contemporary competitors: Flash and Javascript.
It offered a superior offering. Now HTML 5, almost five years later is offering something new and advantageous in the form of native support on multiple platforms/form factors.
5 years is a long time in the tech world.
Encryption in DRM is a waste. of. time. The *only* thing it accomplishes is vendor lock-in for the maker of the DRM-encumbered platform. If you think encryption in DRM protects content providers, then you don't know what you're talking about.
Inevitably content gets ripped, true. But the goal is often to discourage the casual effort.
There are sites which let you download a YouTube link to watch on a future date offline. I know of no such site for Netflix. There might be a way to do it but it's not going to be trivial. It would be easier as you mention to just torrent it from another source.
I don't anybody personally who has ever ripped a Netflix Instant stream. That sounds like a successful operation to me.
Now all we need is Netflix to abandon Silverlight...
... when an alternative comes along.
The alternative is flash. If Microsoft had rewritten Live Drive for flash there would be a concern. But HTML 5 doesn't offer the same level of encryption as Silverlight.
I think this is what we'll see more of. There are going to be less and less places where it makes sense to use a non-standard dev environment instead of HTML5 (Remember flash drop down menus etc?). But that doesn't mean that there won't be areas where it's better to use a plugin like silverlight. Those areas will just be less and less as HTML evolves but for now we'll see Silverlight and Flash continue to evolve.
My point wasn't whether or whether not Oracle has a case. The question is whether or not Oracle is *wrong* to attempt to extract licensing fees on principle.
On principle the idea that infinite free promotion is useful. I can't buy a lunch or make a car payment with self promotion.
This is like the tax debate.
Eventually that 'popularity' has to translate into revenue.
Sure the could give away Java and it would be hugely popular. But "Hugely Popular" doesn't make them any money. 0% of infinity is still $0.
Currently Google is paying $0 for each java license. If Java just becomes "The android language" and they continue collecting $0 why should they care.
It's kind of like the people who try to use photos without the photographers permission. "Hey but you're getting free exposure." "You know what's better than free exposure? Buying stock photos." Exposure is only worth something if it translates eventually into sales.
HIPPA
http://www.practicefusion.com/pages/certification_center.html
I would trust this organization over my doctor's office.
By the way this story probably went down this way for 1 reason: IT would lose resources to something that "wasn't their problem".
The cost to IT for installing 7zip was $0.
The potential cost to IT for a random program >$1.
Not to mention the non-zero time of logging in and installing an app and then maybe uninstalling it if they were really worried.
So from IT's perspective the incentives are to do nothing. From the department's perspective they spent 2 hours trying to find a work around. We spent an hour trying to find a workaround. All told the cost of this one problem was >$200 but it cost IT nothing.
IT should be a service within the company. If you need something installed--charge by the hour. Then the incentive is to assist instead of saying NO.
True story from this last month.
We send them a file. They can't open it. 7Zip would be able to open it (since it can pretty much open every compressed format unlike the built in Windows unzip which is great with Windows Zipped files.) (BTW we didn't zip it, but we confirmed 7zip could open it.)
Their IT staff says "NO" to installing 7Zip on any of their computers. The deadline was for 2 days later. They faced 1 of 2 options:
We unzip it, put it on a couple DVDs and overnight FedEx it for $30.
They download it off of our FTP for 12 hours on their slow connection and have almost no time to verify it the next day.
I guess a couple hours later they finally bribed someone in IT or performed sexual favors or God knows what but IT relented and they got 7Zip installed.
5 minute problem: 2 hours-12 hour solution bracket. So when people hear that they could use their normal computers but some sort of cloud solution through a browser they get very excited.
I assume the article uses an "average" US home. So I used the "average" US monthly electricity bill.
$2B in loan guarantees is not $2B in cost. Unless the plant goes belly-up, which should be a low-probability event for something this simple. The expected-value of the cost on this probably about $50-100M, so the gov't is effectively spending about $1k per house.
Right, I was just curious though what the actual cost of the project was that we were guaranteeing in the interest of seeing how competitive it was with coal.
errr.. 17 year pay-off. Not sure where I came up with 12.
$2B in loan guarantees for 100,000 homes. I wonder if they're guaranteeing the entire cost of the plants or just a part of the financing.
That would work out to $20k per home.
Average monthly bill for a home is approximately $100 a month. So $1200 per year. 12 year pay-off ignoring operating expenses and maintenance.
Sounds like a good investment.