Actually some of those download accellerators were pretty clever. They downloaded the HTML for all the sites that a site linked to. So for instance while I'm reading a story on the NYT all of the linked stories start downloading. It isn't perpetual motion, it's just anticipation.
Similarly if Netflix wanted to start downloading all of the episodes to a Miniseries that I start watching while I sleep so that I can watch them in HD even with a slower connection... all the more power to them.
In fact my two 2TB HDDs are mostly unused. If they want to download all of my recommended Netflix movies but dynamically delete them when I need more space.. again all the more power to them if it doesn't interfere with my normal browsing.
There is a lot of time while I'm at work where my internet connection could be going full tilt caching my potential entertainment. In fact it doesn't even have to cache all of it--just enough so that there is no buffering.
There was once a real-time OS company that gave you a Bug, a Volkswagen Beetle, if you found a bug in their OS.
The latest generation of VW Bug? Why not just knock them over the head and steal their children? Why on earth would anyone submit a bug if there was a chance they might have to drive a VW Beetle?
Actually it sounds like some of the new virtualization enhancements in SP1 are also in this latest security patch. So it's a case of VMWare theoretically working better--they just didn't expect it yet.
Also just because the flight is 6.5 hours doesn't mean it doesn't take 40 minutes to get to the airport. You have to arrive at least 90 minutes early. It's often another 40 minutes to get out of the destination airport.
You're often looking at an addition 3 hours or so all told. So more like 9.5 hours vs 12 hours.
Actuuuallllly... when you're working for a conservative Christian you can be fired if it's for religious reasons. Aka, if a minister is seen drunk the church can fire them since it violates the religious standards of conduct. But it's limited to church employees.
Don't be such a party pooper, it'll work! I think we should do it! Oh, except I'm going to pay someone $1 to perform my 10 minutes of guard duty every year. I've got a great idea too, why don't like a few thousand of us pay $1 to one guy to take all of our turns and then he can just do that all year and we don't have to find a ton of people to fill in for out 10 minutes. We should really think about setting up an organization to handle paying him too so that they can make sure he actually signs in for our share of the guard time. We'll keep this internal just amongst ourselves and so this internal revenue organization should really look after it. Also is it possible to just have it taken out of my pay check so that I don't have to spend $0.30 on postage for a $1 wage?
I wish most of my tests were that way. Almost every test I've ever had in mathematics or physics would be randomly selected from seemingly the most esoteric concepts briefly mentioned in class for one day.
That being said. I think every test should be an open Google test. I've never been at work and had a boss say "Hey, no looking up something online--or asking any of your team mates if they've solved a similar problem!"
Quite the contrary. I've been able to leverage my education to a far greater degree than many of my classmates by being very proficient at searching out info online or documentation. And the info/documentation that I use regularly I have memorized--I didn't have to study it, it just was naturally memorized by the nature of being repeatedly needed in real world problems.
There should be 2 sections to tests in my opinion. The 'long format' portion which requires you to 'solve problems' and is abstract enough or difficult enough that even if you had a cheat sheet you have to know how to apply it--this would be mostly 'un-timed' and a rapid fire section where you have to answer questions but not exactly. e.g. "What year is closest to when Columbus first sailed to America? "1292, 1492, 1692, 1892"
The rapid fire questions should just be for you to calibrate your BS'ometer to know when you need to look something up but what year it was exactly is mostly useless in the age of smart phones. It's extremely rare that someone will say something like "1492 is the year that so and so invented.." "Wow that's also the year Columbus... what an interesting connection."
People would complain they 'freeze up' under timed tests, but I doubt they would freeze up during a test whose answers are so inspecific.
Because all of these efforts take a lot of work. Someone has to write the code. Someone has to organize and coordinate the group. Hours, Days... weeks go into the hard labor. And as much as people on the internet do things completely for noble purposes... "Hey let's fight back for justice!" inevitably most people like to be recognized for their labors and rewarded with esteem and gratitude.
The more labor into organization, leadership and tools--the more likely they are to seek the gratitude and respect of their peers.
A more apt analogy would be a student attending a lecture on a subject of interest.
Later in that year he takes a class on the subject and it turns out the earlier lecture was taught by a former student. When the final test comes he discovers that the earlier lecture was based on the questions within the test.
Microsoft is correct in their rebuttal. What Google did was equitable to click fraud. It wasn't a proper "honeypot", they simply manufactured a website with a unique keyword and then clicked a link. Unless Microsoft explicitly engineered their program to ignore any activity in the Google.com domain the crawler would simply see a URL with an interesting and unique keyword and an associated link clicked. That's what an indexer is designed to do.
A proper honeypot would have reduced the variables by repeating the test on a non Google.com domain to see if a random website with similar random jibberish and links would also be indexed and whether it would be at a comparable rate. Even with the manufactured websites Google admits that the indexer only indexed 6% of their attempts.
All Google discovered is that Microsoft does exactly what they said they did--improve their result rankings by analyzing their users browsing. Part of their users browsing evidently happened to include the Google.com domain.
Considering some websites today are more sophisticated than many applications or programs or whatever you want to call them when they were written 10 years ago... I don't see the point in making a distinction.
Whether an application is running as Java and HTML is irrelevant in my opinion. Especially since with local caching you're running it from the local disk. Steam can stream data to the cache and run something like Team Fortress 2. Does that mean it's a website?
Websites are websites. It's like porn--you know it when you see it. A lot of websites today are interactive tools. If you use a website as a tool it's more app like than website like.
"How it was intended" implies sentience and intelligence. Neither Google nor Bing I imagine are that smart when crawling the web.
Web crawlers are finely tuned applications designed to find relationships between distinct and unique words and links. I would think that a web crawler analyzing your browsing would have to be explicitly told *not* to crawl Google searches.
If Google really wanted to see if Bing was "cheating" it should have hosted a new unique domain and mixed up its CSS so that it wasn't "Google" and repeated the tests.
It should also be noted that only 6% of the honey-pots returned anything. So if Bing is intentionally stealing search results and not just blindly finding relationships between URLs and links clicked--I would expect a better return.
A party of logic, reason, etiquette, balance, science, and honesty.
That's fine right up to the point where the reasonable, balanced and pragmatic approach gets twisted by the opposition until they're a baby killer.
We already have that in politics. It immediately gets distorted until you're disgusted by both sides. If you really want that, it's not going to come from someone new it's going to come from educating yourself to see through the mud to the actual problems and solutions our politicians face.
Obama for instance couldn't even simply be born and live without being called a Muslim terrorist born abroad. Offering end of life counseling for free becomes a "death panel". Increasing the Medicare eligibility age means you're "killing grandma". Adjusting income taxes by 1-2% results in a politician being a "communist". Telling an at risk youth to use a condom if they intend to have sex means you're promoting the "Rape of our children".
We have reasonable passionate public servants on both sides of the aisle. I'm very happy with most of my elected officials. But after they survive the onslaught of ads during re-election... well then they're Hitler's cousin.
Perhaps we should start recognizing politicians for what they are: human beings trying to find a solution that other human beings will agree to. They might promise something--and be unable to deliver it due to opposition. They might promise something.. and then under changing circumstances do something else which is better.
We shouldn't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
No but we are at a disadvantage since we depend on private sector infrastructure which isn't coordinated enough to fend off a coordinated attack.
A government agency working with the ISPs could however respond to a systematic attack on our infrastructure and kill routes which are origins of the attack.
If a bank is receiving a denial of service attack to all of its servers it doesn't have the authority to order an ISP to start shutting down the source of the attacks. If however there is an attack under way they can notify a central agency whose job is to make an organized response to an organized attack.
Yes individual organizations need good cyber security response plans--but as we realized during the last economic crisis, just because an organization is critical to society doesn't mean it is acting in such a manner. Nor should they necessarily have to bare the cost of behaving as such.
If by "Academics" you mean people of reason then you should expect "Academics" to discard your silly notions of free will. Nothing is the product of free will in a deterministic universe. It's either predictable physics of random chaos. Neither of which is choice.
It's a reasonable question. Your response "Ooo he's so counter-culture so he thinks he's cool." is misplaced.
It's like the "Wiki-leaks Revolution" which attempted to assign Wikileaks's leak that Tunisia was "rife with corruption" as the source of a revolution. Which was stupid.
Techies like to think that they aren't just geeks who like to read slashdot--they like to think they're freedom fighters who are changing the world by setting up IRC channels. Which is mostly ludicrous.
I don't agree with the OP. The things the internet does very well that are threatening to the regime is the ability to share stories and video with each other and the outside world. Since Egypt has state controlled media (except for Al Jazeera which it can't block) the citizens have to rely on the internet to see the government firing on unarmed civilians
But we should also remember that the government shut down SMS service which was also being used. We techies love to promote our super high tech mesh networks as the weapons of freedom--but text messages are also perhaps even better systems for spreading information. You can read them 'on the go', they take up almost 0 bandwidth, you can send them to everyone you know in seconds and with MMS you can virally share videos and pictures of government oppression.
So instead of just saying nothing constructive how about including a *reason* why you think the conventional Nerd Wisdom that the internet is integral to this revolution is true instead of just attacking the person who asks the obvious question "is dial up internet actually useful?"
"We can take the vibrations from this window pane to reconstruct an animated 3d animation of the room and determine the date off of the tidal forces acting on this glass of water! Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to listen to this dead man's thoughts that were trapped in the air filter!"
But since then it's gone from a completely absurd enjoyable sci-fi romp into a far more abstract and enjoyable traditional science fiction show.
To those who were completely turned off by the ridiculously incredible rational leaps you once had to take I encourage you to jump back in to season 2+.
Ummmm... do you want apps to not be able to upload and download data? The Zune app downloads hundreds of megabytes per week on my account. That's... what I want it to do. If it didn't do that I wouldn't use it.
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Actually some of those download accellerators were pretty clever. They downloaded the HTML for all the sites that a site linked to. So for instance while I'm reading a story on the NYT all of the linked stories start downloading. It isn't perpetual motion, it's just anticipation.
Similarly if Netflix wanted to start downloading all of the episodes to a Miniseries that I start watching while I sleep so that I can watch them in HD even with a slower connection... all the more power to them.
In fact my two 2TB HDDs are mostly unused. If they want to download all of my recommended Netflix movies but dynamically delete them when I need more space.. again all the more power to them if it doesn't interfere with my normal browsing.
There is a lot of time while I'm at work where my internet connection could be going full tilt caching my potential entertainment. In fact it doesn't even have to cache all of it--just enough so that there is no buffering.
There was once a real-time OS company that gave you a Bug, a Volkswagen Beetle, if you found a bug in their OS.
The latest generation of VW Bug? Why not just knock them over the head and steal their children? Why on earth would anyone submit a bug if there was a chance they might have to drive a VW Beetle?
Actually it sounds like some of the new virtualization enhancements in SP1 are also in this latest security patch. So it's a case of VMWare theoretically working better--they just didn't expect it yet.
Also just because the flight is 6.5 hours doesn't mean it doesn't take 40 minutes to get to the airport. You have to arrive at least 90 minutes early. It's often another 40 minutes to get out of the destination airport.
You're often looking at an addition 3 hours or so all told. So more like 9.5 hours vs 12 hours.
Actuuuallllly... when you're working for a conservative Christian you can be fired if it's for religious reasons. Aka, if a minister is seen drunk the church can fire them since it violates the religious standards of conduct. But it's limited to church employees.
I just have to wonder that if it IS indeed driver error, why so many more incidents with this make?
Also could someone please look into why BMW vehicles make their drivers such assholes.
Don't be such a party pooper, it'll work! I think we should do it! Oh, except I'm going to pay someone $1 to perform my 10 minutes of guard duty every year. I've got a great idea too, why don't like a few thousand of us pay $1 to one guy to take all of our turns and then he can just do that all year and we don't have to find a ton of people to fill in for out 10 minutes. We should really think about setting up an organization to handle paying him too so that they can make sure he actually signs in for our share of the guard time. We'll keep this internal just amongst ourselves and so this internal revenue organization should really look after it. Also is it possible to just have it taken out of my pay check so that I don't have to spend $0.30 on postage for a $1 wage?
I wish most of my tests were that way. Almost every test I've ever had in mathematics or physics would be randomly selected from seemingly the most esoteric concepts briefly mentioned in class for one day.
That being said. I think every test should be an open Google test. I've never been at work and had a boss say "Hey, no looking up something online--or asking any of your team mates if they've solved a similar problem!"
Quite the contrary. I've been able to leverage my education to a far greater degree than many of my classmates by being very proficient at searching out info online or documentation. And the info/documentation that I use regularly I have memorized--I didn't have to study it, it just was naturally memorized by the nature of being repeatedly needed in real world problems.
There should be 2 sections to tests in my opinion. The 'long format' portion which requires you to 'solve problems' and is abstract enough or difficult enough that even if you had a cheat sheet you have to know how to apply it--this would be mostly 'un-timed' and a rapid fire section where you have to answer questions but not exactly. e.g. "What year is closest to when Columbus first sailed to America? "1292, 1492, 1692, 1892"
The rapid fire questions should just be for you to calibrate your BS'ometer to know when you need to look something up but what year it was exactly is mostly useless in the age of smart phones. It's extremely rare that someone will say something like "1492 is the year that so and so invented.." "Wow that's also the year Columbus... what an interesting connection."
People would complain they 'freeze up' under timed tests, but I doubt they would freeze up during a test whose answers are so inspecific.
Tough to attack them for socialism now too!
That's one of the greatest capitalist achievements of the last half decade!
Because all of these efforts take a lot of work. Someone has to write the code. Someone has to organize and coordinate the group. Hours, Days... weeks go into the hard labor. And as much as people on the internet do things completely for noble purposes... "Hey let's fight back for justice!" inevitably most people like to be recognized for their labors and rewarded with esteem and gratitude.
The more labor into organization, leadership and tools--the more likely they are to seek the gratitude and respect of their peers.
A more apt analogy would be a student attending a lecture on a subject of interest.
Later in that year he takes a class on the subject and it turns out the earlier lecture was taught by a former student. When the final test comes he discovers that the earlier lecture was based on the questions within the test.
Microsoft is correct in their rebuttal. What Google did was equitable to click fraud. It wasn't a proper "honeypot", they simply manufactured a website with a unique keyword and then clicked a link. Unless Microsoft explicitly engineered their program to ignore any activity in the Google.com domain the crawler would simply see a URL with an interesting and unique keyword and an associated link clicked. That's what an indexer is designed to do.
A proper honeypot would have reduced the variables by repeating the test on a non Google.com domain to see if a random website with similar random jibberish and links would also be indexed and whether it would be at a comparable rate. Even with the manufactured websites Google admits that the indexer only indexed 6% of their attempts.
All Google discovered is that Microsoft does exactly what they said they did--improve their result rankings by analyzing their users browsing. Part of their users browsing evidently happened to include the Google.com domain.
Wait... do you mean my email address, which has a dot in it, is technically dot free?
Walks like a Duck, Talks like a Duck...
Considering some websites today are more sophisticated than many applications or programs or whatever you want to call them when they were written 10 years ago... I don't see the point in making a distinction.
Whether an application is running as Java and HTML is irrelevant in my opinion. Especially since with local caching you're running it from the local disk. Steam can stream data to the cache and run something like Team Fortress 2. Does that mean it's a website?
Websites are websites. It's like porn--you know it when you see it. A lot of websites today are interactive tools. If you use a website as a tool it's more app like than website like.
"How it was intended" implies sentience and intelligence. Neither Google nor Bing I imagine are that smart when crawling the web.
Web crawlers are finely tuned applications designed to find relationships between distinct and unique words and links. I would think that a web crawler analyzing your browsing would have to be explicitly told *not* to crawl Google searches.
If Google really wanted to see if Bing was "cheating" it should have hosted a new unique domain and mixed up its CSS so that it wasn't "Google" and repeated the tests.
It should also be noted that only 6% of the honey-pots returned anything. So if Bing is intentionally stealing search results and not just blindly finding relationships between URLs and links clicked--I would expect a better return.
Android != "Android Powered by Google" which is what every phone and tablet ships with.
Android is technically open source but the vast majority is Google's build and app suite which includes non-open-source code.
Because they don't care about customers who don't buy games? And why should they? Why should you care about unprofitable customers?
A party of logic, reason, etiquette, balance, science, and honesty.
That's fine right up to the point where the reasonable, balanced and pragmatic approach gets twisted by the opposition until they're a baby killer.
We already have that in politics. It immediately gets distorted until you're disgusted by both sides. If you really want that, it's not going to come from someone new it's going to come from educating yourself to see through the mud to the actual problems and solutions our politicians face.
Obama for instance couldn't even simply be born and live without being called a Muslim terrorist born abroad. Offering end of life counseling for free becomes a "death panel". Increasing the Medicare eligibility age means you're "killing grandma". Adjusting income taxes by 1-2% results in a politician being a "communist". Telling an at risk youth to use a condom if they intend to have sex means you're promoting the "Rape of our children".
We have reasonable passionate public servants on both sides of the aisle. I'm very happy with most of my elected officials. But after they survive the onslaught of ads during re-election... well then they're Hitler's cousin.
Perhaps we should start recognizing politicians for what they are: human beings trying to find a solution that other human beings will agree to. They might promise something--and be unable to deliver it due to opposition. They might promise something.. and then under changing circumstances do something else which is better.
We shouldn't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
No but we are at a disadvantage since we depend on private sector infrastructure which isn't coordinated enough to fend off a coordinated attack.
A government agency working with the ISPs could however respond to a systematic attack on our infrastructure and kill routes which are origins of the attack.
If a bank is receiving a denial of service attack to all of its servers it doesn't have the authority to order an ISP to start shutting down the source of the attacks. If however there is an attack under way they can notify a central agency whose job is to make an organized response to an organized attack.
Yes individual organizations need good cyber security response plans--but as we realized during the last economic crisis, just because an organization is critical to society doesn't mean it is acting in such a manner. Nor should they necessarily have to bare the cost of behaving as such.
If by "Academics" you mean people of reason then you should expect "Academics" to discard your silly notions of free will. Nothing is the product of free will in a deterministic universe. It's either predictable physics of random chaos. Neither of which is choice.
It's a reasonable question. Your response "Ooo he's so counter-culture so he thinks he's cool." is misplaced.
It's like the "Wiki-leaks Revolution" which attempted to assign Wikileaks's leak that Tunisia was "rife with corruption" as the source of a revolution. Which was stupid.
Techies like to think that they aren't just geeks who like to read slashdot--they like to think they're freedom fighters who are changing the world by setting up IRC channels. Which is mostly ludicrous.
I don't agree with the OP. The things the internet does very well that are threatening to the regime is the ability to share stories and video with each other and the outside world. Since Egypt has state controlled media (except for Al Jazeera which it can't block) the citizens have to rely on the internet to see the government firing on unarmed civilians
But we should also remember that the government shut down SMS service which was also being used. We techies love to promote our super high tech mesh networks as the weapons of freedom--but text messages are also perhaps even better systems for spreading information. You can read them 'on the go', they take up almost 0 bandwidth, you can send them to everyone you know in seconds and with MMS you can virally share videos and pictures of government oppression.
So instead of just saying nothing constructive how about including a *reason* why you think the conventional Nerd Wisdom that the internet is integral to this revolution is true instead of just attacking the person who asks the obvious question "is dial up internet actually useful?"
Patents aren't invalidated if your product isn't the most popular on the market.
Quiet you. You're ruining the narrative.
Which is actually pretty much the same as the US:
President of the United States
Commander and Chief
and somewhat unofficially also the defacto political party leader.
The first 2/3rds of the 1st season were absurd.
"We can take the vibrations from this window pane to reconstruct an animated 3d animation of the room and determine the date off of the tidal forces acting on this glass of water! Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to listen to this dead man's thoughts that were trapped in the air filter!"
But since then it's gone from a completely absurd enjoyable sci-fi romp into a far more abstract and enjoyable traditional science fiction show.
To those who were completely turned off by the ridiculously incredible rational leaps you once had to take I encourage you to jump back in to season 2+.
Ummmm... do you want apps to not be able to upload and download data? The Zune app downloads hundreds of megabytes per week on my account. That's... what I want it to do. If it didn't do that I wouldn't use it.