Why do white people need a separate class of 'rights' -- why can't everyone have equal rights under the law? BTW I am white, for what that's worth, and I think the Aryan Nation and other "white rights" movements are just a flimsy cover (white sheet, if you will) for your basic pig ignorant racism. Anyway, I know a lot of people who fall into a 'minority' category who are a lot better class of people than your average trailer trash whitey who subscribes to KKK Kwarterly. Then again, I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply to you, because this was such a blatant troll. ---
I half agree with you. Reefer isn't the problem, and should be completely legal for all adults.
But I don't agree that we should "fight Hard drugs" with law enforcement. Any kind of drug abuse is a medical problem and should be dealt with as such. Criminalizing victimless behavior only leads to an artificially high price for a product that is very addicting. In essence, the "War on Drugs" is creating crime, and encouraging people to spread the disease of addiction as widely as possible, in order to support their own artificially expensive habits.
Drug abuse should be dealt with by trained medical professionals, not police and courts. The various LEO's have a vested interest in supressing alternatives to the militarization of drug enforcement -- after all, we wouldn't need so many new prisons if we cut the prison population by nearly half, by releasing
non-violent drug offenders. Not to mention the money they make on 'forfiture', which can be had merely by accusing property of a crime; not convicting an individual.
This is NOT the same as advocating "hey, heroin's fine, I think everyone should use it, and it should be availible from candy machines everywhere." Hard drugs should only be availible under a doctors' supervision, and only after other addiction treatment options have failed. ---
and these laws are all bullshit, and unconstitutional (at least at the federal level) by any reasonable interpretation (see the 9th and 10th amendments.) Unfortunately, most of the legistlature and judiciary is far from reasonable. ---
I admit, the US screwed over much of South and Latin America. However, the fact of the matter is that we didn't do it for shits and grins; we were fighting the Cold War.
PS. I'm an American too and I'm not exactly proud of all the things my country has done in the past (and continues to do to this day.) We are not neccesarily "the good guys." We are an empire like any other, which happens to carry the biggest stick at the moment.
Fun fact of the day: the term 'gook' did not come out of Korea or Vietnam -- American Marines were using it to refer to natives of Haiti as far back as 1915.
Shrub was coined, I believe, by the columnist Molly Ivans -- since he is a 'Junior Bush'. You might even say he is genuine Texas home-grown dope. At least his father worked hard for what he achieved and is an intelligent man. Shrub hasn't had to work for anything in his life. The only 'successful' business deal he was ever involved in was a sweetheart deal set up by Daddy's buddies and financed by Arlington, TX taxpayers (I'm talking about the TX Rangers baseball deal of course.) ---
Hahahahaa... you believe anything that comes out of Shrub's mouth? He will never stand up to any corporation, and will never fight against any laws like UCITA that benefit mainly large corporations. HAhahahaha... I laughed so hard my sides hurt. (This is not to say that Al Gore will either, they both suck... the USA is a two-party dictatorship.) ---
Sorry, the police need a reason better than a routine traffic violation to search your car.
Unfortunately, this is not the case. They can search anything in 'plain sight' or more importantly, within reach of the driver or any passenger. This includes closed (and locked) glove boxes, consoles, etc. They can do this in pretty much any circumstances that result from being pulled over for any traffic violation. In many places this is called Driving While Black (Hispanic). The idea is that they are looking for weapons within your reach, but certainly if they find any other contraband in the course of this search, you will be busted for that too.
and as far as not consenting to a search, that's fine. Go ahead tell the officer you don't consent. Maybe whine a little bit about your constitution freedoms. That really makes them happy and friendly. They are not going to 'come back with a warrant', they are going to hold your ass on the side of the road while they radio in for the K-9 unit to come out and sniff around your car -- they don't need a warrant for that. Hours later, when the K-9 arrives, assuming you haven't caved in by now to a search, you're still sitting by the side of a road with a suspicious cop who thinks you have something to hide by throwing the Constitution in his face. And if that dog so much as squeeks or piddles while sniffing around your car, that's all the 'warrant' they need to literally tear your vehicle apart bit by bit to search for the dreaded drugs (weapons, illegal aliens, etc). They will not put everything back into place and apologize when they don't find anything. Four hours later they will just be more pissed off, and leave you on the side of the road with your car torn to literally to shreds. That is, if they don't go ahead and plant a few cannabis seeds in the floor of your car. After all, you wouldn't consent to a search, so you probably are guilty of something.
Besides, let's say they did find something, and by a very long shot (and expensive lawyer) you manage to get the case dismissed on the grounds of illegal search. That's ok from the police's point of view, because they don't need to convict you of anything to seize your car under civil forfiture laws. Even if you were not convicted, you will never see your vehicle (home, etc) again if the police decide they want it. They will sell it and use the proceeds to fund another drug checkpoint on the highway.
Perhaps you think this is just a bunch of libertarian nonsense whining that has no basis in reality. Obviously you are not a minority, and have not seen too many real traffic stops (either in real life or on a 'realitly' show like Cops.) Yes, most people who get busted consented to the search. But you can bet your sweet ass that if you don't consent, the officer will more often than not find a reason to do a destructive search. ---
actually, I've had very little (no) problem with hushmail crashing NS 4.7x on Leenooks. But that's just me I guess. Maybe in some extreme cases where you have a bunch o' crap in other browser windows. You can actually run 2 netscape binaries at once, one for hushmail and one for the rest of the crap. Yes, I realize how much memory this takes, but I've got 256 mb, what do I care?
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I'd rather not have someone work for me who is a good worker, but on their own time at home, is a reactionary crank on slashdot. Where do you draw the line?
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The numbers he picked were rather surprising to me too (and a little
arbitrary I think.)
There is also the question of the numbers he
left out -- certain numbers seem 'built-in' to the universe and I
wonder why that is exactly -- are they a consequence of some baser
truth or reality? If these physical constants mentioned in the
article vary in other universes, would these mathematical constants
also vary?
One question I've never seen answered to my satisfaction (admittedly vague criteria;-)) is this: if Prohibition of Alcohol required a Constitutional amendment, and of course another to repeal it, why does the same standard not apply to other drugs, including those such as pot which are proven to be less harmful to the user. Excuses like "well alcohol is traditional" don't cut it -- if the Federal gov't requires a constitutional amendment to prohibit consenting adults from putting mind-altering substances into the body, the 'cultural' status of the drug should not matter -- in fact, you're discriminating against those who don't come from a culture that includes alcohol. Never mind that cannabis has been used in many cultures for thousands of years (possibly before alcohol was intentionally fermented.)
In other words, where are the legal grounds for this War? I believe a bill should be passed requiring a constitutional amendment that authorizes the futher prohibition of various substances, and if the amendment is not passed (affirmed by 3/4 of the States, etc), all criminal penalities for the use of 'drugs' are eliminated, and amnesty is granted too all those incarcerated only on drug offenses. Perhaps a Constitutional scholar can comment.
I don't know about you but I don't see too many opioum addicts
roming around today.
I take it you don't spend much time hanging out in the poorer neighborhoods of major cities.
No, the reason you don't see many opium addicts is because they've all switched to heroin, originally developed as an opium substitute by a pharmaceutical company (Bayer). The reason people use heroin now and not opium is not due to the 'success' of the various drug laws, but because of the effects of illegality -- the black market demands a more potent, concentrated drug that is easier to smuggle than opium. (In other words, it's 'better' to try to smuggle a kilo of heroin than a kilo of opium -- you get more out of it.) Now if drugs were legal and regulated, people might well choose a less potent preparation of opium over some kind of suspect black market heroin. As an example, in the Alcohol Prohibition in the USA in the 1920's, a frosty cold well brewed lager was hard to come by, but a bottle of 140 proof backwoods-still moonshine could be bought from nearly anyone of a certain reputation.
You really need to open your eyes to the true effects of our misguided drug policies. If people with your impressive grasp of the issues were running the country, just think of the state we'd be in. Oh wait, never mind... drcnet.org
I think we're both right -- the error I posted is a result of not being able to load the class, which is a result of not being able to load classes over HTTPS currently.
BTW that comment was written with M18, of course. The GTK theme support makes my desktop look purty and Mozilla really renders slashdot and just about every other web page beautifully (certainly compared to NS4.x.)
I've been trying for the past couple of hours to get M18 to work with Hushmail. I've downloaded PSM (to get HTTPS support) and now the new Java support. I can get to the Hushmail page where it tries to load the applet, then I get this in the java console:
java.lang.ClassFormatError: com/hushmail/client/gui/mail/HushApplet (Truncated class file)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java :486)
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Secure ClassLoader.java:111)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClass Loader.java:142)
at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Pl uginClassLoader.java:213)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:2 97)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClass Loader.java:108)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:2 53)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(AppletClassL oader.java:366)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(AppletPanel.ja va:579)
at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(AppletViewer. java:1111)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(AppletPanel.java: 515)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:293)
at sun.plugin.navig.motif.MotifAppletViewer.maf_run(M otifAppletViewer.java:125)
at sun.plugin.navig.motif.MotifAppletViewer.run(Motif AppletViewer.java:121)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
Does M18+Java not support https transactions in java? Apparently this is required. Oh well, hushmail is really the only site I use Java with. Though it will be nice to finally be able to do my online banking with Mozilla.
You're talking only about the Partys' stated policies. Which is fine, but I assure you that what the original poster said applies to most of the Good Ole Boys who run the GOP. In their shriveled little hearts, most of them basically hate gays and think it's God's command to punish them. That alone makes them repulsive, not to mention the secret fantasy most right-right wingers have of a theocratic/autocratic coup d'etat.
Why do white people need a separate class of 'rights' -- why can't everyone have equal rights under the law? BTW I am white, for what that's worth, and I think the Aryan Nation and other "white rights" movements are just a flimsy cover (white sheet, if you will) for your basic pig ignorant racism. Anyway, I know a lot of people who fall into a 'minority' category who are a lot better class of people than your average trailer trash whitey who subscribes to KKK Kwarterly. Then again, I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply to you, because this was such a blatant troll.
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But I don't agree that we should "fight Hard drugs" with law enforcement. Any kind of drug abuse is a medical problem and should be dealt with as such. Criminalizing victimless behavior only leads to an artificially high price for a product that is very addicting. In essence, the "War on Drugs" is creating crime, and encouraging people to spread the disease of addiction as widely as possible, in order to support their own artificially expensive habits.
Drug abuse should be dealt with by trained medical professionals, not police and courts. The various LEO's have a vested interest in supressing alternatives to the militarization of drug enforcement -- after all, we wouldn't need so many new prisons if we cut the prison population by nearly half, by releasing non-violent drug offenders. Not to mention the money they make on 'forfiture', which can be had merely by accusing property of a crime; not convicting an individual.
This is NOT the same as advocating "hey, heroin's fine, I think everyone should use it, and it should be availible from candy machines everywhere." Hard drugs should only be availible under a doctors' supervision, and only after other addiction treatment options have failed.
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and these laws are all bullshit, and unconstitutional (at least at the federal level) by any reasonable interpretation (see the 9th and 10th amendments.) Unfortunately, most of the legistlature and judiciary is far from reasonable.
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If only Gore could measure up to the high standards of intelligence that you so clearly possess.
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No, the fact of the matter is that the USA was 'screwing over' Latin America well before the Cold War gave us a more plausible excuse. Check your facts next time you spout off about American superiority.
PS. I'm an American too and I'm not exactly proud of all the things my country has done in the past (and continues to do to this day.) We are not neccesarily "the good guys." We are an empire like any other, which happens to carry the biggest stick at the moment.
Fun fact of the day: the term 'gook' did not come out of Korea or Vietnam -- American Marines were using it to refer to natives of Haiti as far back as 1915.
---
Shrub was coined, I believe, by the columnist Molly Ivans -- since he is a 'Junior Bush'. You might even say he is genuine Texas home-grown dope. At least his father worked hard for what he achieved and is an intelligent man. Shrub hasn't had to work for anything in his life. The only 'successful' business deal he was ever involved in was a sweetheart deal set up by Daddy's buddies and financed by Arlington, TX taxpayers (I'm talking about the TX Rangers baseball deal of course.)
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If I had mod points today I would give this +1, Insightful.
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Hahahahaa... you believe anything that comes out of Shrub's mouth? He will never stand up to any corporation, and will never fight against any laws like UCITA that benefit mainly large corporations. HAhahahaha... I laughed so hard my sides hurt. (This is not to say that Al Gore will either, they both suck... the USA is a two-party dictatorship.)
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Larry Ellison Exercises Jerk Options
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Unfortunately, this is not the case. They can search anything in 'plain sight' or more importantly, within reach of the driver or any passenger. This includes closed (and locked) glove boxes, consoles, etc. They can do this in pretty much any circumstances that result from being pulled over for any traffic violation. In many places this is called Driving While Black (Hispanic). The idea is that they are looking for weapons within your reach, but certainly if they find any other contraband in the course of this search, you will be busted for that too.
and as far as not consenting to a search, that's fine. Go ahead tell the officer you don't consent. Maybe whine a little bit about your constitution freedoms. That really makes them happy and friendly. They are not going to 'come back with a warrant', they are going to hold your ass on the side of the road while they radio in for the K-9 unit to come out and sniff around your car -- they don't need a warrant for that. Hours later, when the K-9 arrives, assuming you haven't caved in by now to a search, you're still sitting by the side of a road with a suspicious cop who thinks you have something to hide by throwing the Constitution in his face. And if that dog so much as squeeks or piddles while sniffing around your car, that's all the 'warrant' they need to literally tear your vehicle apart bit by bit to search for the dreaded drugs (weapons, illegal aliens, etc). They will not put everything back into place and apologize when they don't find anything. Four hours later they will just be more pissed off, and leave you on the side of the road with your car torn to literally to shreds. That is, if they don't go ahead and plant a few cannabis seeds in the floor of your car. After all, you wouldn't consent to a search, so you probably are guilty of something.
Besides, let's say they did find something, and by a very long shot (and expensive lawyer) you manage to get the case dismissed on the grounds of illegal search. That's ok from the police's point of view, because they don't need to convict you of anything to seize your car under civil forfiture laws. Even if you were not convicted, you will never see your vehicle (home, etc) again if the police decide they want it. They will sell it and use the proceeds to fund another drug checkpoint on the highway.
Perhaps you think this is just a bunch of libertarian nonsense whining that has no basis in reality. Obviously you are not a minority, and have not seen too many real traffic stops (either in real life or on a 'realitly' show like Cops.) Yes, most people who get busted consented to the search. But you can bet your sweet ass that if you don't consent, the officer will more often than not find a reason to do a destructive search.
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actually, I've had very little (no) problem with hushmail crashing NS 4.7x on Leenooks. But that's just me I guess. Maybe in some extreme cases where you have a bunch o' crap in other browser windows. You can actually run 2 netscape binaries at once, one for hushmail and one for the rest of the crap. Yes, I realize how much memory this takes, but I've got 256 mb, what do I care?
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I'm Merkin and even then Jack Straw scares me silly. At least his son is a reefer man.
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I'd rather not have someone work for me who is a good worker, but on their own time at home, is a reactionary crank on slashdot. Where do you draw the line?
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nope, they're not. they are just variations of solitare and whack-a-mole unfortunately.
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There is also the question of the numbers he left out -- certain numbers seem 'built-in' to the universe and I wonder why that is exactly -- are they a consequence of some baser truth or reality? If these physical constants mentioned in the article vary in other universes, would these mathematical constants also vary?
I'm talking about the famous Pi, Phi (ie, the Golden Ratio), and e (Euler's Constant) among others. Why is the ratio of a circle's diameter to its circumfirence exactly 3.1415...?
It's all very confusing to me. But then I like to look at the pretty fractals.
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More importantly, nobody wanted them at the time, either.
Thank you for the informative reply and link. I have long believed the Commerce Clause was vasty over-interpreted by Congress.
In other words, where are the legal grounds for this War? I believe a bill should be passed requiring a constitutional amendment that authorizes the futher prohibition of various substances, and if the amendment is not passed (affirmed by 3/4 of the States, etc), all criminal penalities for the use of 'drugs' are eliminated, and amnesty is granted too all those incarcerated only on drug offenses. Perhaps a Constitutional scholar can comment.
I take it you don't spend much time hanging out in the poorer neighborhoods of major cities. No, the reason you don't see many opium addicts is because they've all switched to heroin, originally developed as an opium substitute by a pharmaceutical company (Bayer). The reason people use heroin now and not opium is not due to the 'success' of the various drug laws, but because of the effects of illegality -- the black market demands a more potent, concentrated drug that is easier to smuggle than opium. (In other words, it's 'better' to try to smuggle a kilo of heroin than a kilo of opium -- you get more out of it.) Now if drugs were legal and regulated, people might well choose a less potent preparation of opium over some kind of suspect black market heroin. As an example, in the Alcohol Prohibition in the USA in the 1920's, a frosty cold well brewed lager was hard to come by, but a bottle of 140 proof backwoods-still moonshine could be bought from nearly anyone of a certain reputation.
You really need to open your eyes to the true effects of our misguided drug policies. If people with your impressive grasp of the issues were running the country, just think of the state we'd be in. Oh wait, never mind... drcnet.org
At least bring a big sheet of plastic! Those watermelon pieces can put an eye out.
"well, I ain't got that, but I sure got some powerful pills!"
I think we're both right -- the error I posted is a result of not being able to load the class, which is a result of not being able to load classes over HTTPS currently.
BTW that comment was written with M18, of course. The GTK theme support makes my desktop look purty and Mozilla really renders slashdot and just about every other web page beautifully (certainly compared to NS4.x.)
Does M18+Java not support https transactions in java? Apparently this is required. Oh well, hushmail is really the only site I use Java with. Though it will be nice to finally be able to do my online banking with Mozilla.
You're talking only about the Partys' stated policies. Which is fine, but I assure you that what the original poster said applies to most of the Good Ole Boys who run the GOP. In their shriveled little hearts, most of them basically hate gays and think it's God's command to punish them. That alone makes them repulsive, not to mention the secret fantasy most right-right wingers have of a theocratic/autocratic coup d'etat.