Most desktop computer (not embedded systems) programmers work for a business, for profit company whose profits derive from selling something besides software, or anything computer related. Of those, most development is done in VB. People working for sofware comanies/universities/ISP's are the small minority of developers.
They don't need to go after all of them, just some of them. As soon as they start arresting some people for copyright infringement, 90% of the rest will stop out of fear
Yeah, that philosophy has worked SO well for the drug war!
except Nimda and Code Red both had patches available BEFORE the outbreaks happened. I really get tired of these two examples being brought up in the context of exploit publication/patch publication because the exploits did not work if the patches had been applied. Microsoft has had legitimate issues to be brought up in this context, but not these two.
IS is installed (and running) by default on Windows 2000. Anything post Windows 2000(including.NET server) does not install IIS by default.
Not on Windows 2000 Pro (workstation). It does install on Server versions (personally, I think it should install on server version but turn the services off by default, but that's just me).
is a good one. Particularly the xlab interactive tester to learn various Xpath things.
I wouldn't say it is easy. It's actually a LOT of work up front, which is why it isn't widespread yet. There's a lot of work on the front end First, you define a template schema that has sections want (menu, header, content, form, footer, etc., Then, you have to write objects (java, vb, whatever) to produce XML snippets rather than scripting code to produce HTML. Usually another object assembles the snippets/nodes into the XML template. This isn't an easy change.
Then, you have to get a grasp on XSL. This takes awhile. It's a strange language and at first you want to do everything like you would do in functional language like Java or C. You can do some basic stuff, but then it gets hard. Then I (slowly) realized it's more like SQL in terms of you get a set, then transform that etc (like a subquery).
Short answer: it is a LOT more work up front. But later it is sweet. You let your graphic stud come up with a new layout in HTML (dreameweaver or whatever) and you write an XSL to translate into that. Maybe have him export a netscape compatible one (browser sniffing dishes out a different transform) and you have a plain text one as well (section 508 compliance becomes very easy. That's what is driving the current conversion).
What can be simpler? Once you put up the infrastructure? I'm dealing now with an intranet. it has an xml "template", you just replace the "content" area to change it. Want a new menu item in the dynamic menu on top? Let's see, I bet I just put a new
blah
users love it. No problem.
What's that? Some PHB wants a new "look and feel"? I just write a new XSL stylesheet, replace it on the server, and I'm done.
.NET was released well before that. you could download it off of MSDN for at least a month (release version). Yesterday was just the official launch.
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this is from the site, after all, which rejected my story that.NET had shipped and was available for download. I thought "surely they are running someone else's submission." This is, after all, a multi-year project by the leading software company in the world, completely rewriting their development tools and API from scratch.... oh well, not "News for Nerds, stuff that matters."
agreed. my vote in the last presidential election would have been "not Bush", for instance. I wanted to vote Nader, but new he had no shot.
As someone else points out, requiring a majority (50%) of votes cast in a multi-way election would do the same thing (with multiple rounds dropping the low person(s) until we get there.
You know what real men do do? They tell sh*t like they see it. If they don't like the movie, they say so. They don't say what they hope she wants to hear so they'll "get laid."
I saw Moulin Rouge the other night and I said it sucked to my wife. BTW, one of my favorite comedies I've seen lately was Bridget (sp?) Jones' Diary, so don't tell me I don't like "chick flicks".
But he fears his luck is running out. Last month he moved from a carriage house in Malibu, Calif., to a one-bedroom apartment in nearby Venice. His larger fear is that the best job of his life--writing for The Spot--is behind him, and his career will be a string of boring jobs. As a fallback plan, he's taking a real-estate course later this month. ... I got laid off when my software company went belly up (actually sold a product, not a.com, just ran out of money). This was not a wasteful, Aeron chair place, but it was a fabulous environment to work in. Really smart people and the technical guys were seperated from the marketing/sales by half a continent. Was definitely fun and the first place I've ever worked at where there were a sizeable number of people I thought were significantly smarter than me. Freedom was unparalleled, the work interesting and stimulating.
I found a job in 3 weeks working for a place doing government contracting. It pays the bills and I was happy to get it after 3 weeks of no return phone calls, let alone interviews (I have 4 years programming/web/database experience). Salary a slight bump down ($3K), but I took it.
But I really feel like it was so much fun. I miss it. I don't regret it. I don't even regret our CEO not selling out (I could've pocket $20-$40K in my paltry stock options if they took the deal after I'd been there around six months. But It would have cost me another year working at the funnest place ever). Sigh....
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do you expect them to HELP you download a driver that isn't certified, so when it doesn't follow the standard and crashes the OS you can blame Microsoft? Gimme a break...
that for the last 10 years the industry has been telling us it is fixing to fall off the face of the planet due to massive pirating, thus mandating the use of annoying, but (not) highly effective copy-protection measures like SafeDisk (TM).
Ahhh.. did this bring back memories. Wizard of Wor! I can still hear that f*cker after he killed you "I am the Wizard of Wor. HA. HA. HA. HA...." This while the bastards kept running over your corpse (repsented by little deteriorating dots). I had a lot of fun last year playing this with my son on MAME.
geez. I loved it at my old job when my son was sick and I had a chance to telecomute. It's not like I needed to code 8 hours to have the same productivity, since a typical day was 3 hours coding max, after all interruptions taken into account.
Well, code red was based on a hole that had a patch available for months. BTW, I agree with the other posters that this "study" doesn't seem fair (multiple counting of the same bug because it exists in different distros)
That's funny, since.net and C# aren't even the present yet.
Ummm, you might want to check your facts on that one..NET has shipped. (at least, visual studio.net and the.net framework). You can download the release of the compiler and the SDK on MSDN.
Of course, you didn't hear about it here, since slashdot refused my story. I guess the release of a brand new API the largest software company in the world has been working on for years isn't "news for nerds". Download the runtime/compiler here or the full sdk here
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kinda like the Kinko's that have Zip drives. Nothing like getting a bunch of Adobe fonts in my graphic artist days!
No, they don't. Here's a further clue:
Most desktop computer (not embedded systems) programmers work for a business, for profit company whose profits derive from selling something besides software, or anything computer related. Of those, most development is done in VB. People working for sofware comanies/universities/ISP's are the small minority of developers.
They don't need to go after all of them, just some of them. As soon as they start arresting some people for copyright infringement, 90% of the rest will stop out of fear
Yeah, that philosophy has worked SO well for the drug war!
remember Apples' OpenDoc? (http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macos8/Legacy /OpenDoc/opendoc.html).
No? Niether does anyone else. Great idea. Never seemed to work out.
except Nimda and Code Red both had patches available BEFORE the outbreaks happened. I really get tired of these two examples being brought up in the context of exploit publication/patch publication because the exploits did not work if the patches had been applied. Microsoft has had legitimate issues to be brought up in this context, but not these two.
thus quoth the AC:
.NET server) does not install IIS by default.
IS is installed (and running) by default on Windows 2000. Anything post Windows 2000(including
Not on Windows 2000 Pro (workstation). It does install on Server versions (personally, I think it should install on server version but turn the services off by default, but that's just me).
Except IIS isn't installed by default. Not on a users (i.e. non-server version)
It had to compensate for features which were never originally planned for
Gimmie a break. So does every piece of sotware ever writtten (at least the ones that anyone usues). Users=feature creep.
http://www.zvon.org/xxl/XSLTreference/Output/index .html
is a good one. Particularly the xlab interactive tester to learn various Xpath things.
I wouldn't say it is easy. It's actually a LOT of work up front, which is why it isn't widespread yet. There's a lot of work on the front end First, you define a template schema that has sections want (menu, header, content, form, footer, etc., Then, you have to write objects (java, vb, whatever) to produce XML snippets rather than scripting code to produce HTML. Usually another object assembles the snippets/nodes into the XML template. This isn't an easy change.
Then, you have to get a grasp on XSL. This takes awhile. It's a strange language and at first you want to do everything like you would do in functional language like Java or C. You can do some basic stuff, but then it gets hard. Then I (slowly) realized it's more like SQL in terms of you get a set, then transform that etc (like a subquery).
Short answer: it is a LOT more work up front. But later it is sweet. You let your graphic stud come up with a new layout in HTML (dreameweaver or whatever) and you write an XSL to translate into that. Maybe have him export a netscape compatible one (browser sniffing dishes out a different transform) and you have a plain text one as well (section 508 compliance becomes very easy. That's what is driving the current conversion).
sorry, forgot to change to "code" mode:
I meant:
<menuitem linkto="blah.xml">BLAH MENU ITEM</menuitem>
What can be simpler? Once you put up the infrastructure? I'm dealing now with an intranet. it has an xml "template", you just replace the "content" area to change it. Want a new menu item in the dynamic menu on top? Let's see, I bet I just put a new
blah
users love it. No problem.
What's that? Some PHB wants a new "look and feel"? I just write a new XSL stylesheet, replace it on the server, and I'm done.
.NET was released well before that. you could download it off of MSDN for at least a month (release version). Yesterday was just the official launch.
this is from the site, after all, which rejected my story that .NET had shipped and was available for download. I thought "surely they are running someone else's submission." This is, after all, a multi-year project by the leading software company in the world, completely rewriting their development tools and API from scratch.... oh well, not "News for Nerds, stuff that matters."
so we can moderate up!
agreed. my vote in the last presidential election would have been "not Bush", for instance. I wanted to vote Nader, but new he had no shot.
As someone else points out, requiring a majority (50%) of votes cast in a multi-way election would do the same thing (with multiple rounds dropping the low person(s) until we get there.
You know what real men do do? They tell sh*t like they see it. If they don't like the movie, they say so. They don't say what they hope she wants to hear so they'll "get laid."
I saw Moulin Rouge the other night and I said it sucked to my wife. BTW, one of my favorite comedies I've seen lately was Bridget (sp?) Jones' Diary, so don't tell me I don't like "chick flicks".
But he fears his luck is running out. Last month he moved from a carriage house in Malibu, Calif., to a one-bedroom apartment in nearby Venice. His larger fear is that the best job of his life--writing for The Spot--is behind him, and his career will be a string of boring jobs. As a fallback plan, he's taking a real-estate course later this month.
... I got laid off when my software company went belly up (actually sold a product, not a .com, just ran out of money). This was not a wasteful, Aeron chair place, but it was a fabulous environment to work in. Really smart people and the technical guys were seperated from the marketing/sales by half a continent. Was definitely fun and the first place I've ever worked at where there were a sizeable number of people I thought were significantly smarter than me. Freedom was unparalleled, the work interesting and stimulating.
I found a job in 3 weeks working for a place doing government contracting. It pays the bills and I was happy to get it after 3 weeks of no return phone calls, let alone interviews (I have 4 years programming/web/database experience). Salary a slight bump down ($3K), but I took it.
But I really feel like it was so much fun. I miss it. I don't regret it. I don't even regret our CEO not selling out (I could've pocket $20-$40K in my paltry stock options if they took the deal after I'd been there around six months. But It would have cost me another year working at the funnest place ever). Sigh....
do you expect them to HELP you download a driver that isn't certified, so when it doesn't follow the standard and crashes the OS you can blame Microsoft? Gimme a break...
that for the last 10 years the industry has been telling us it is fixing to fall off the face of the planet due to massive pirating, thus mandating the use of annoying, but (not) highly effective copy-protection measures like SafeDisk (TM).
Ahhh.. did this bring back memories. Wizard of Wor! I can still hear that f*cker after he killed you "I am the Wizard of Wor. HA. HA. HA. HA...." This while the bastards kept running over your corpse (repsented by little deteriorating dots). I had a lot of fun last year playing this with my son on MAME.
Wanna save your roller rink? Start playing in your local roller hockey league. Fun, fun, fun.
geez. I loved it at my old job when my son was sick and I had a chance to telecomute. It's not like I needed to code 8 hours to have the same productivity, since a typical day was 3 hours coding max, after all interruptions taken into account.
Well, code red was based on a hole that had a patch available for months. BTW, I agree with the other posters that this "study" doesn't seem fair (multiple counting of the same bug because it exists in different distros)
actually, they fixed (nmostly) that one in win2k. You can have different versions of the same .dll loaded. see: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url= /library/en-us/dnw2k/html/dlldanger1.asp
That's funny, since .net and C# aren't even the present yet.
.NET has shipped. (at least, visual studio.net and the .net framework). You can download the release of the compiler and the SDK on MSDN.
Ummm, you might want to check your facts on that one.
Of course, you didn't hear about it here, since slashdot refused my story. I guess the release of a brand new API the largest software company in the world has been working on for years isn't "news for nerds". Download the runtime/compiler here or the full sdk here