An intelligent person IMO would condescend to use technical support, in the absence of all other viable options. They may exceptionally even prioritise technical support ahead of other avenues of support, if it would make sense to do so. It can be rationalised logically or as an example of wisdom: pride comes before a fall. Whether and/or to what degree the adherence to logic or wisdom constitutes intelligence..well... banally it is worth pointing out here that the extent of someone's intelligence is complicated to make any meaningful judgement on, for there are contextual considerations; location, culture, role.. I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all pattern to intelligence.
"That would make the battle between OS X and Linux the most interesting one on the computer scene. With all attention turned in that direction, there would be nothing Microsoft could do to stem a reversal of its fortunes."
Now it all makes sense. I've been labouring under the misapprehension that the main goal of large software/hardware companies like Apple and Microsoft was to make money. It's taken the observations of a true genius to make me realise that the true objective of any such company should be to do 'interesting battles' with Linux. Maybe with light sabres.
Yeah I can vouch for that. It was back in April 2003 when I gave my girlfriend a 3-headed rig from Anne Summers. Fast forward to now: she still won't answer my knocks on the bedroom door and the electricity company is threatening me with legal action. The thing only cost me ~£40, so you're right about it being cheaper than the electricity needed to power it.
So, by performing a buzzword-ectomy on the above, we result with something like this, "It has become fashionable to look at costs above other parts of a company's overall performance. Software-as-a-Service can sometimes help cut costs, so it is being considered more widely as an option."
Splendid! 'TFA' (to employ the Slashdot vernacular) fails where you succeed - in telling me what it was trying to say! But now I am confused: you say 'sometimes good' ? But this is a state new to me - it falls somewhere in the middle....don't....know'....how....to....under..st and...please..Taco! Zonk! Anyone...please : post me another Linux v Windows article......I can't live in this world of subtle greys.
The article acknowledged that this was merely the reincarnation of old-style Application Service Providers but also said that the current climate is more permissive for several, well, err 2, reasons;
"Today's economic and competitive pressures make nearly any form of outsourcing fair game."
"Many companies now consider various IT functions and business applications commodities and not core competencies."
In trying to explain the new-wave of software rental services It further notes that:
"Companies of all sizes are taking advantage of SaaS. The scalability of the new generation of SaaS solutions enables users to test the reliability and performance of on-demand applications in limited deployments, and expand their adoption incrementally."
...etc.. but I didn't recognise that as a language with which I am familiar. A colleague says it is some form of 'marketingspeak', a language I am not conversant in.
I'm not from the banking community but this high-speed modem is intolerably slow. I'm interested in upgrading my twenty eight point eight kilo-baud internet connection to a one point five megabit fibre-optic T-1 line. Will someone be able to provide an IP router that's compatible with my token ring ethernet LAN configuration?
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I followed your link seeking to share my mac experiences with my prospective mac buddies over at MacBuds and was distressed to find myself not in receipt of said website. I feel like my faith in the Internet has been shaken and I am now consulting with my nearest local Apple reseller as to where I can find a website for special people such as myself.
Please refrain from playing with the tender sensitivities of us Macintosh owners as we are not like you. I will now commune with my brethren - without mere words - to warn them of this.
It was like a profusion of Comic Book Guy clones all swooping down upon you, saying 'I sure hope someone got fired for that one.' Scary stuff indeed. Makes me feel a little sick sometimes, other times, I just laugh and laugh and laugh at them. Somewhere between their precious tendency to brand anyone they don't agree with as Troll/Flamebait, and their constant attempts to turn otherwise good topic questions into Linux questions, well, there is entertainment.
Despite being having an international audience, I really do think that Slashdot, by virtue of its American roots and large American membership (snigger), shows the very worst aspects of our so-called friends across the pond, in sharp relief. I've come to the conclusion that the Americans are much more narrow-minded and prone to Group-Think and herd-mentality than their European cousins. Maybe that's because we aren't indoctrinated into an ideology which pushes the innate superiority of our parent nation down our throats. Somehow, as a Brit, it is hard to delude myself into thinking my country is better than the rest of the world, but hey, USA - A-OK, OK?
Why is this relevant? Because it makes their Linux zealotry all the more ridiculous. In nations like South Africa, the likes of Ubuntu are making a real, but limited, difference to the lives of people. In Slashdot-America, Linux usage is to me a bourgeois fallacy: it changes very little indeed. The same people defending the rights of Free software, by and large (excluding the Richard Stallman's of this world), will not spend any real team defending freedom here in the physicality. Some of them still won't vote. Plenty of them will still drink coffee from Starbucks. You get me..
So, in summary - you were reasonable, but factually incorrect - and the Slashdot community embarrassed themselves in my eyes by condescending upon you disproportionally. This thread, to me, typifies the car-crash TV that Slashdot is capable of being in its darkest moments.
Enjoy your social life Know1 - that in itself will annoy plenty of people around here.
You poor poor man. You posted early, with an on-topic statement which, while being less than inscrutable, was likely correct although for the wrong reasons. I myself modded you Interesting - I too mused on the validity of whether '.' and '..' were strictly the criteria upon which the embedded OS might be determined - but I took your general point. My Alba DVD-65 definitely has a crapulent-but-functional 'Linux feeling' about it, in fact a higher-level zealot is welcome to inform me of what system is embedded in said DVD player.
I'm sorry that by posting in your support, I cost you the mod-point I allocated you, but I just think it's ridiculous that you are now locked in a scrum with dozens of *NIX/Linux fans screaming at you. And funny. Very very funny.
This is not news. It is self-evident to anyone trying to visit the site. And the people who are not trying to visit the site are not wanting to know about whether the site has been slashdotted. So just be quiet, and the next time you are about to point out this obvious fact on another topic, just don't. It just makes me feel pangs of deja-vu - nausea even - when I see the first predictable few posted dribbles, on any topic, are always triumphantly pointing out that the website in question has been/.'ed.
Your site isn't ugly, but your whole post is merely a shill for it. In fact I feel slightly dirty for having been there, even though the design is not 'wrong'. Your post actually says the sum total of nothing;
"here's my site, it's pretty and has those usability features, and once, there was this site and the dude was giving some advice but lmao rofl it was teh suxxorz but * patronising conjecture about the idiocy of users * and yes i agree with Article Submitter."
Perhaps this is not the Embrace and Extend that Gates has in mind - in another dimension His Holiness Steve has persuaded him that not all O/S is evil tree-huggery, hence his strange and anomalous interest in appeasing of the O/S community..
Or actually, the language for people who want a specific tool for a specific job. What is it with this tedious Perl clique on Slashdot? There are, I presume, plenty of other language-based cliques on/. , however the most vocal ones always seem to be the Perl-mongers. They're the ones who seem to pipe-up the most regardless of topic.
And, for some reason, I'm always left with this mental image of a tall, pasty elder geek sitting in that proverbial Mom's Basement, pulling on his long pointy beard whilst his Gentoo box spends it's 28th hour compiling a boot-loader or something, smirking as he sees his, ahem, 'Perl of Wisdom' slide down the Slashdot page like a turd in summer.
I just fucking hate you, why bother posting at all?
Perl: The Language for People Who Can't Be Arsed to Investigate the Right Language For The Task At Hand.
Perl: 'Cos You Never Really Moved On.
Perl: Why Use the Standalone Screwdriver When There Is A More Fiddly One Attached To This 52-Way Swiss Army Knife?
You don't mean that film Minority Report, do you? That's what you've been blithering on about for the last three hours!! I get it now!
One culture-related note Brian - I don't live in the USA.
* Turns around, to see a British copper brandishing an ASBO certificate. *
"Mr Unski, I have been instructed to serve you with this ASBO as it has come to my attention that you have the intention of harassing a born-again Christian German with critical postings on Slashdot...and no, Mr. Unski, the fact that his home-page is a relic from 1996 is no excuse."
See?
No. I don't. There is some strange conceit in your post that I have obviously 'made your point' for you, however you forget that you had absolutely no freakin' point to make in that last rambling diatribe.
Thanks for the example.
There comes that conceit again - an example of what? I would assert that my post was an example of someone who simply rejects the White Christian supremacist thread which was smeared all over your post like a turd in summer. You take a discussion about the pervasiveness of mobile phone tracking, and then use it as an opportunity to bore us with some rambling narrative about how 'Big Brother' is scriptural fact, and extrapolate that this is confirmation of some 'Grand Plan' in Isreal.
World War two *had* to happen. The mass-killings there were the inspiration for the establishment of Isreal. The establishment of Isreal started the "same generation" timer to the final show. I'm just waiting for Sharon to awake. If he starts doing "miracles", it's time to get nervous.
This is what I take issue with. By any measure, you are deeply off-topic, and this is just a masturbation of your religious views.
The changes are intentionally small, so the majority doesn't notice them...
My tin-foil hat is double-gauge.
I will grant you this - as you said originally, things _are_ going to get interesting in the middle-east, as they have been of late (but relevant to this discussion how?) And obviously, the notion of Big Brother (which is something I find is in the eye of the beholder) is of relevance to this discussion. You manage to take it immediately off-topic after that though.
There are those that don't believe, and those that won't.
There are those that fail to convince, also.
See, it's the people who *aren't* smoking who are spotting the clues. Those that are, tend to be very much about the here-and-now, so they don't see things coming.
I make no real argument in favour of smoking, but after reading your posts, I think I would prefer the short-sightedness of the here-and-now, compared to the cryptic, dark and mostly made-up future you write of. And you sir, are still a freak.
..you would have them. You are spot-on; by the facile rationale of these 'good citizens', then we may as well have CCTV in every room in our house, as 'we have nothing to hide, do you?' I am extremely sick of hearing the July Bombings cited as the justification for every casual erosion of our liberty in this country.
For shame, we in the UK are becoming as ignorant and badly-informed as the Americans, soon we will be bending over willingly for every pig-swill two-bit piece of legislation that happens to make us feel safe. False consciousness - words from my Sociology course which have never rung truer.
I have nothing further to add to your analysis, you said everything I believe myself.
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Fair comment. When I re-read it before I thought it was OTT. Apols, Mark.
An intelligent person IMO would condescend to use technical support, in the absence of all other viable options. They may exceptionally even prioritise technical support ahead of other avenues of support, if it would make sense to do so. It can be rationalised logically or as an example of wisdom: pride comes before a fall. Whether and/or to what degree the adherence to logic or wisdom constitutes intelligence..well... banally it is worth pointing out here that the extent of someone's intelligence is complicated to make any meaningful judgement on, for there are contextual considerations; location, culture, role.. I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all pattern to intelligence.
"That would make the battle between OS X and Linux the most interesting one on the computer scene. With all attention turned in that direction, there would be nothing Microsoft could do to stem a reversal of its fortunes."
Now it all makes sense. I've been labouring under the misapprehension that the main goal of large software/hardware companies like Apple and Microsoft was to make money. It's taken the observations of a true genius to make me realise that the true objective of any such company should be to do 'interesting battles' with Linux. Maybe with light sabres.
Yeah I can vouch for that. It was back in April 2003 when I gave my girlfriend a 3-headed rig from Anne Summers. Fast forward to now: she still won't answer my knocks on the bedroom door and the electricity company is threatening me with legal action. The thing only cost me ~£40, so you're right about it being cheaper than the electricity needed to power it.
"Matrox TripleHead Triples Your Viewing Pleasure"
I'm sorry but the headline reads like a condom advertisement. Mind you, I do have the tiny puerile mind of an adolescent.
So, by performing a buzzword-ectomy on the above, we result with something like this, "It has become fashionable to look at costs above other parts of a company's overall performance. Software-as-a-Service can sometimes help cut costs, so it is being considered more widely as an option."
t and...please..Taco! Zonk! Anyone...please : post me another Linux v Windows article......I can't live in this world of subtle greys.
Splendid! 'TFA' (to employ the Slashdot vernacular) fails where you succeed - in telling me what it was trying to say! But now I am confused: you say 'sometimes good' ? But this is a state new to me - it falls somewhere in the middle....don't....know'....how....to....under..s
The article acknowledged that this was merely the reincarnation of old-style Application Service Providers but also said that the current climate is more permissive for several, well, err 2, reasons;
...etc.. but I didn't recognise that as a language with which I am familiar. A colleague says it is some form of 'marketingspeak', a language I am not conversant in.
"Today's economic and competitive pressures make nearly any form of outsourcing fair game."
"Many companies now consider various IT functions and business applications commodities and not core competencies."
In trying to explain the new-wave of software rental services It further notes that:
"Companies of all sizes are taking advantage of SaaS. The scalability of the new generation of SaaS solutions enables users to test the reliability and performance of on-demand applications in limited deployments, and expand their adoption incrementally."
I'm not from the banking community but this high-speed modem is intolerably slow. I'm interested in upgrading my twenty eight point eight kilo-baud internet connection to a one point five megabit fibre-optic T-1 line. Will someone be able to provide an IP router that's compatible with my token ring ethernet LAN configuration?
I followed your link seeking to share my mac experiences with my prospective mac buddies over at MacBuds and was distressed to find myself not in receipt of said website. I feel like my faith in the Internet has been shaken and I am now consulting with my nearest local Apple reseller as to where I can find a website for special people such as myself.
Please refrain from playing with the tender sensitivities of us Macintosh owners as we are not like you. I will now commune with my brethren - without mere words - to warn them of this.
It was like a profusion of Comic Book Guy clones all swooping down upon you, saying 'I sure hope someone got fired for that one.' Scary stuff indeed. Makes me feel a little sick sometimes, other times, I just laugh and laugh and laugh at them. Somewhere between their precious tendency to brand anyone they don't agree with as Troll/Flamebait, and their constant attempts to turn otherwise good topic questions into Linux questions, well, there is entertainment.
Despite being having an international audience, I really do think that Slashdot, by virtue of its American roots and large American membership (snigger), shows the very worst aspects of our so-called friends across the pond, in sharp relief. I've come to the conclusion that the Americans are much more narrow-minded and prone to Group-Think and herd-mentality than their European cousins. Maybe that's because we aren't indoctrinated into an ideology which pushes the innate superiority of our parent nation down our throats. Somehow, as a Brit, it is hard to delude myself into thinking my country is better than the rest of the world, but hey, USA - A-OK, OK?
Why is this relevant? Because it makes their Linux zealotry all the more ridiculous. In nations like South Africa, the likes of Ubuntu are making a real, but limited, difference to the lives of people. In Slashdot-America, Linux usage is to me a bourgeois fallacy: it changes very little indeed. The same people defending the rights of Free software, by and large (excluding the Richard Stallman's of this world), will not spend any real team defending freedom here in the physicality. Some of them still won't vote. Plenty of them will still drink coffee from Starbucks. You get me..
So, in summary - you were reasonable, but factually incorrect - and the Slashdot community embarrassed themselves in my eyes by condescending upon you disproportionally. This thread, to me, typifies the car-crash TV that Slashdot is capable of being in its darkest moments.
Enjoy your social life Know1 - that in itself will annoy plenty of people around here.
You poor poor man. You posted early, with an on-topic statement which, while being less than inscrutable, was likely correct although for the wrong reasons. I myself modded you Interesting - I too mused on the validity of whether '.' and '..' were strictly the criteria upon which the embedded OS might be determined - but I took your general point. My Alba DVD-65 definitely has a crapulent-but-functional 'Linux feeling' about it, in fact a higher-level zealot is welcome to inform me of what system is embedded in said DVD player.
I'm sorry that by posting in your support, I cost you the mod-point I allocated you, but I just think it's ridiculous that you are now locked in a scrum with dozens of *NIX/Linux fans screaming at you. And funny. Very very funny.
This is not news. It is self-evident to anyone trying to visit the site. And the people who are not trying to visit the site are not wanting to know about whether the site has been slashdotted. So just be quiet, and the next time you are about to point out this obvious fact on another topic, just don't. It just makes me feel pangs of deja-vu - nausea even - when I see the first predictable few posted dribbles, on any topic, are always triumphantly pointing out that the website in question has been /.'ed.
Your site isn't ugly, but your whole post is merely a shill for it. In fact I feel slightly dirty for having been there, even though the design is not 'wrong'. Your post actually says the sum total of nothing; "here's my site, it's pretty and has those usability features, and once, there was this site and the dude was giving some advice but lmao rofl it was teh suxxorz but * patronising conjecture about the idiocy of users * and yes i agree with Article Submitter."
Meh. Power to you.
I'm off to the bathroom and I won't be back for ~ 3 minutes.
warning: [deprecation] IForOne() in Slashdot.GroupThink.Jokes has been deprecated.
slashdotc: warning: jokes.AustinPowers.frickinlaserbeam() in slashdot.groupthink has been deprecated.
Perhaps this was after their honeymoon period in another dimension..
Perhaps this is not the Embrace and Extend that Gates has in mind - in another dimension His Holiness Steve has persuaded him that not all O/S is evil tree-huggery, hence his strange and anomalous interest in appeasing of the O/S community..
But maybe I'm just over reacting...
You are. That was note-perfect parody, amongst the finest I have ever seen and read. I struggled to breathe properly after reading his spoof.
Eloquently-put, I wish I had your patience..
I just don't know where to begin on this one!!! :p
I do like that Gematriculator thingumibob though..this thread is apparently 43% evil!!!! Mwa ha ha ha...
Or actually, the language for people who want a specific tool for a specific job. What is it with this tedious Perl clique on Slashdot? There are, I presume, plenty of other language-based cliques on /. , however the most vocal ones always seem to be the Perl-mongers. They're the ones who seem to pipe-up the most regardless of topic.
And, for some reason, I'm always left with this mental image of a tall, pasty elder geek sitting in that proverbial Mom's Basement, pulling on his long pointy beard whilst his Gentoo box spends it's 28th hour compiling a boot-loader or something, smirking as he sees his, ahem, 'Perl of Wisdom' slide down the Slashdot page like a turd in summer.
I just fucking hate you, why bother posting at all?
Perl: The Language for People Who Can't Be Arsed to Investigate the Right Language For The Task At Hand.
Perl: 'Cos You Never Really Moved On.
Perl: Why Use the Standalone Screwdriver When There Is A More Fiddly One Attached To This 52-Way Swiss Army Knife?
* Retrieves dummy and calms down *
You don't mean that film Minority Report, do you? That's what you've been blithering on about for the last three hours!! I get it now!
One culture-related note Brian - I don't live in the USA.
* Turns around, to see a British copper brandishing an ASBO certificate. *
"Mr Unski, I have been instructed to serve you with this ASBO as it has come to my attention that you have the intention of harassing a born-again Christian German with critical postings on Slashdot...and no, Mr. Unski, the fact that his home-page is a relic from 1996 is no excuse."
Well what do you know, you were right Brian!
See?
No. I don't. There is some strange conceit in your post that I have obviously 'made your point' for you, however you forget that you had absolutely no freakin' point to make in that last rambling diatribe.
Thanks for the example.
There comes that conceit again - an example of what? I would assert that my post was an example of someone who simply rejects the White Christian supremacist thread which was smeared all over your post like a turd in summer. You take a discussion about the pervasiveness of mobile phone tracking, and then use it as an opportunity to bore us with some rambling narrative about how 'Big Brother' is scriptural fact, and extrapolate that this is confirmation of some 'Grand Plan' in Isreal.
World War two *had* to happen. The mass-killings there were the inspiration for the establishment of Isreal. The establishment of Isreal started the "same generation" timer to the final show. I'm just waiting for Sharon to awake. If he starts doing "miracles", it's time to get nervous.
This is what I take issue with. By any measure, you are deeply off-topic, and this is just a masturbation of your religious views.
The changes are intentionally small, so the majority doesn't notice them...
My tin-foil hat is double-gauge.
I will grant you this - as you said originally, things _are_ going to get interesting in the middle-east, as they have been of late (but relevant to this discussion how?) And obviously, the notion of Big Brother (which is something I find is in the eye of the beholder) is of relevance to this discussion. You manage to take it immediately off-topic after that though.
There are those that don't believe, and those that won't.
There are those that fail to convince, also.
See, it's the people who *aren't* smoking who are spotting the clues. Those that are, tend to be very much about the here-and-now, so they don't see things coming.
I make no real argument in favour of smoking, but after reading your posts, I think I would prefer the short-sightedness of the here-and-now, compared to the cryptic, dark and mostly made-up future you write of. And you sir, are still a freak.
..you would have them. You are spot-on; by the facile rationale of these 'good citizens', then we may as well have CCTV in every room in our house, as 'we have nothing to hide, do you?' I am extremely sick of hearing the July Bombings cited as the justification for every casual erosion of our liberty in this country.
For shame, we in the UK are becoming as ignorant and badly-informed as the Americans, soon we will be bending over willingly for every pig-swill two-bit piece of legislation that happens to make us feel safe. False consciousness - words from my Sociology course which have never rung truer.
I have nothing further to add to your analysis, you said everything I believe myself.