Don't feel bad. If you have a PHP skillset, it's has no cash value. PHP is free, so everyone who has a PHP project figures they shouldn't have to pay you either. No joke, 99% of the contract work available is minimum wage or less.
PHP being "free" doesn't have any impact on the cash value, everyone and his uncle "knowing" PHP has.
C# is free (as in speech since Mono, and it has a fully public spec), Python is free, Ruby is free, Perl is free. Heck, C, C++, Lisp, Haskell, OCaml and D are all free too.
Python was actually born in 1991 and Ruby in 1993, so your "end" was pretty much before even the start.
And you're missing quite many languages here (now about the state of the art issue, well every language since Lisp has been trying to catch up with Lisp, which means that 40 years of computer history were mostly spent trying to make what already exists exist again. And failing at it).
ASP.Net is NOT a language, it's a framework, it makes quite a number of modules and precreated functions available but it's not a language (while ASP was a language, more or less, created from VB).
You can use just about any language running on top of the CLR (.Net's equivalent of the JVM) in an ASP.Net environment. That includes VB.Net, C#, Boo, IronPython,... or even your own language since the CLI itself is an open spec and you're completely free to create your language compiling in CLI (.Net's "assembly")
Mono implements ASP.Net 1.1 very well (completely in fact, I think) and even implements part of.Net 2 already, which means that ASP.Net actually is cross-platform (since Mono runs on Linux, OSX, Solaris, *BSD and Windows over s390, SPARC, PowerPC, x86, x86-64, IA64, ARM and HP-PA)
Best part about PHP is extensions, just write some C++ code(or C#/VB.NET on windows *frowns*) and make it a DLL, set it up and use it.
That's called a theory. It's much harder to build in reality, and mostly sucks anyway since you still don't get any namespace and have to decorate every damn function like there was no god.
not easily available as Java yet because no as many people use it yet
Thing is in Java you can write your extensions in Java (the JIT compiler is running behind so perfs are good anyway), or use JNI to use C/C++ compiled modules.
Or you can do it the Nice Way and just hop on to Python or Ruby, get full OO, namespaces, and modules (including native compiled) that are actually fairly easy to build.
But PHB's everywhere are reading it, and absorbing the idea that php is teh good, and the next time I'm looking for a job, they'll be like, "Hmmmmm, he knows Php...We should pay him more."
Yeah, but for the fact that just about everyone "knows" PHP...
my apologies for coming across sternly, but i had not noticed the post you were responding to as it was modded into oblivion and i thought your post was in response to my original post.
Wrong, because one of the processes of biomass trapping CO is through storing it while decaying instead of releasing it (coal and petrol being byproducts of this process). We've been, over just the last pair of centuries, releasing 500 million years worth of stored CO, not even taking in account the fucking current green biomass slaughtering (by burning whole primary forests for example, and the global deforestation that's been happening over the last 500 years)...
Biomass reduction because we try to reduce our CO production (notice how it's not even trapping but merely regulating emissions?), my ass.
I guess your Reading Comprehension skill is around -10 isn't it?
Guess what cortex, I know that GAIM can handle GTalk, in fact i know that pretty much any Jabber client can use Google Talk (notice the part about iChat, Adium, Trillian? yeah, that's the one where I explicitely state it), and that was not the point of the bold part.
Currently, any Jabber client can connect to Google Talk but only the "true" Google Talk client can use the voice service over Google Talk, any other is stuck on text-only.
And that's what Sean (the GAIM dev) said he was hired for: make it so that any third party client (that currently has voice capacities i guess) can and does use Voice over GTalk.
Now please shut the fuck up and go back to preschool, that's where you're supposed to learn the basics of reading
Doesn't work like that, Google promotes GTalk as a network not as a client, which is why it even has tutorials to make other clients (OSS like GAIM or AdiumX, but even "commercial" like Trillian or iChat).
Which is also while they'll more than likely include S2S to their servers.
And finally every google employee that I know of has 20% of his working time (aka 20% of his paid time) that can be spent on personal projects (and should, they're taken in account in employee evaluations) and can use Google resources (code repositories and computers) for. And GAIM sure qualifies for a personal/OSS project.
TFA states that Sean announced he'd be working with Google at making it easy for other Jabber clients to include Google Talk voice service, therefore also improving GAIM, but even if that wasn't the case he still'd be able to work on GAIM.
They don't move, they don't blink, they don't annoy, they don't take half my fucking screen estate, and you can skin them to at least fit the color scheme of your website.
As far as productivity, it depends what you're doing. Java UI's take longer to implement (that might not even be true for SWT interfaces) but the core language of Java is very fast to write code in.
Nope, not compared to Python or Ruby (which yield codes rougly 5 times smaller in a quarter of the production time), not compared to Lisp for an ol'timer, not even compared to C# (by a quite small margin though, but C# has a lot of very nice feature Java doesn't have).
Writing Java is faster than writing C/C++ indeed, but not "very fast", not without any referential to compare to, because dev-time wise Java gets it's ass handed to it by much more agile languages.
It definitely is, but there are certain kinds of music which simply can't be recorded without a serious budget, and the major record companies are the only place to get that kind of cash.
And which ones please? beside operas/classical music concerts?
and 3) having a computer that's actually coherent.
3.6GHz P4 is (not so) neat, but when coupled with integrated graphics, 256Mb of shitty RAM and the worst mobo of the market it becomes quite... uselesss.
Better get a much lower clock and have the other components match the processor's level of performance.
Well, France actually got it's first constitution in 1790 (before that it was a constitution-less absolute monarchy)
Now what he's probably talking about is the fact that, irrelevant of France being a country or not, France creates a new constitution more or less every time it tries a new type of government (if not more often)
USA never actually having had the idea of changing they government type or ways of working never needed to trash their constitution and get a new one.
The American constitution is therefore much older than the (current) french one, even though France as a country has been existing more or less since 486 and Clovis' Merovingian dinasty.
Do you realize that most of the money a band makes comes from royalties, not merch sales?
It doesn't, really
No, let me correct that. Royalties and CD sales are a big winner for MTV-type mainstream crap.
Royalties and CD sales get much closer to "net loss" for less known artists. Go read Janis Ian's articles on "The Internet Debacle", it's quite clearly stated.
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PHP being "free" doesn't have any impact on the cash value, everyone and his uncle "knowing" PHP has.
C# is free (as in speech since Mono, and it has a fully public spec), Python is free, Ruby is free, Perl is free. Heck, C, C++, Lisp, Haskell, OCaml and D are all free too.
Python was actually born in 1991 and Ruby in 1993, so your "end" was pretty much before even the start.
And you're missing quite many languages here (now about the state of the art issue, well every language since Lisp has been trying to catch up with Lisp, which means that 40 years of computer history were mostly spent trying to make what already exists exist again. And failing at it).
Some people do, I actually know someone who codes a forum in CGI/C
AFAIK:
That's called a theory. It's much harder to build in reality, and mostly sucks anyway since you still don't get any namespace and have to decorate every damn function like there was no god.
Thing is in Java you can write your extensions in Java (the JIT compiler is running behind so perfs are good anyway), or use JNI to use C/C++ compiled modules.
Or you can do it the Nice Way and just hop on to Python or Ruby, get full OO, namespaces, and modules (including native compiled) that are actually fairly easy to build.
With batteries included
Yeah, but for the fact that just about everyone "knows" PHP...
Apologies accepted
Oh, did I hurt your feelings?
May I ask why you replied to me when i was merely pointing to ggp that he was wrong?
Let's do a recap, since you don't seem to have quite understood what happened here:
I mean i could care less that you're canadian (for the record, I am not american...), but your nonsense is just idiotic.
Wrong, because one of the processes of biomass trapping CO is through storing it while decaying instead of releasing it (coal and petrol being byproducts of this process). We've been, over just the last pair of centuries, releasing 500 million years worth of stored CO, not even taking in account the fucking current green biomass slaughtering (by burning whole primary forests for example, and the global deforestation that's been happening over the last 500 years)...
Biomass reduction because we try to reduce our CO production (notice how it's not even trapping but merely regulating emissions?), my ass.
Haven't you?
Have you been staying on another planet for the last 20 years or so?
I guess your Reading Comprehension skill is around -10 isn't it?
Guess what cortex, I know that GAIM can handle GTalk, in fact i know that pretty much any Jabber client can use Google Talk (notice the part about iChat, Adium, Trillian? yeah, that's the one where I explicitely state it), and that was not the point of the bold part.
Currently, any Jabber client can connect to Google Talk but only the "true" Google Talk client can use the voice service over Google Talk, any other is stuck on text-only.
And that's what Sean (the GAIM dev) said he was hired for: make it so that any third party client (that currently has voice capacities i guess) can and does use Voice over GTalk.
Now please shut the fuck up and go back to preschool, that's where you're supposed to learn the basics of reading
Doesn't work like that, Google promotes GTalk as a network not as a client, which is why it even has tutorials to make other clients (OSS like GAIM or AdiumX, but even "commercial" like Trillian or iChat).
Which is also while they'll more than likely include S2S to their servers.
And finally every google employee that I know of has 20% of his working time (aka 20% of his paid time) that can be spent on personal projects (and should, they're taken in account in employee evaluations) and can use Google resources (code repositories and computers) for. And GAIM sure qualifies for a personal/OSS project.
TFA states that Sean announced he'd be working with Google at making it easy for other Jabber clients to include Google Talk voice service, therefore also improving GAIM, but even if that wasn't the case he still'd be able to work on GAIM.
Notice that you now have a Pierceive Auto Updater, and combined with Adblock Plus it actually handles websites whitelisting.
They don't move, they don't blink, they don't annoy, they don't take half my fucking screen estate, and you can skin them to at least fit the color scheme of your website.
Nope, not compared to Python or Ruby (which yield codes rougly 5 times smaller in a quarter of the production time), not compared to Lisp for an ol'timer, not even compared to C# (by a quite small margin though, but C# has a lot of very nice feature Java doesn't have).
Writing Java is faster than writing C/C++ indeed, but not "very fast", not without any referential to compare to, because dev-time wise Java gets it's ass handed to it by much more agile languages.
And SciTE starts in roughly 0.5s... (the "true" notepad startup time being more or less null, making it just about infinitely faster than java)
And which ones please? beside operas/classical music concerts?
Is that supposed to be the so called
?
whoa
and 3) having a computer that's actually coherent.
3.6GHz P4 is (not so) neat, but when coupled with integrated graphics, 256Mb of shitty RAM and the worst mobo of the market it becomes quite... uselesss.
Better get a much lower clock and have the other components match the processor's level of performance.
That's some interresting information sir, thanks a lot (shows that the Founding Fathers were even more insightful than I though.)
Nope, ON SALE sign on the US govt has been removed quite a few years ago when Halliburton bought the white house and everything in it.
Well, France actually got it's first constitution in 1790 (before that it was a constitution-less absolute monarchy)
Now what he's probably talking about is the fact that, irrelevant of France being a country or not, France creates a new constitution more or less every time it tries a new type of government (if not more often)
USA never actually having had the idea of changing they government type or ways of working never needed to trash their constitution and get a new one.
The American constitution is therefore much older than the (current) french one, even though France as a country has been existing more or less since 486 and Clovis' Merovingian dinasty.
that'd be 25% you retard.
2.5% death rate is 1 death out of 40 infections.
It doesn't, really
No, let me correct that. Royalties and CD sales are a big winner for MTV-type mainstream crap.
Royalties and CD sales get much closer to "net loss" for less known artists. Go read Janis Ian's articles on "The Internet Debacle", it's quite clearly stated.
Most artists get a much higher share out of concerts/merchs than out of CDs.
In fact, non-mainstream artist more or less only make money out of concerts/merchs, CDs net them $0 when they're not losses.