Apparently, back in 2009, people did this, according to posts in the TechNet forums.
But who is running a PIII today?
from the post:
Someone has managed to install Windows 7 onto a 266 MHz Pentium II processor, 96 MB of SDRAM memory, and a 4 MB video card.
But even a Pentium III system took 17 hours to install Windows 7, and it takes 17 minutes to boot the machine.
Someone else claims to have...
"installed Win 7 RC on a Pentium III 850 MHz notebook with 512 MB RAM and 100 MHz FSB in slightly less than 1 hour and it works exceptionally well."
Monday, July 06, 2009 7:49 AM
You are likely correct. No official visit or tour, as is the case with Jobs and Atkinson from Apple in 1979.
I don't have my copy of the "Dealers in Lightning" at the moment but I thought I remembered Gates being offered a tour.
A year and a bit later, Microsoft hired Charles Simonyi from Xerox, where he'd been working since 1974 on WYSIWYG wordprocessor software.
Simonyi was hired "to port the Alto's Bravo word processing software to other personal computer platforms under the name Microsoft Word."
quote from http://appleinsider.com/articl...
This is perhaps less direct than the official visit...
First, I remember my father working on PLATO during the mid and late 70's, working with PDP's at University of Calgary, when I was a teenager.
Of course my priorities then were playing Collosal Cave and Hammurabi on the PDP via teletype.
Back to the original post, I am certain that Bill Gates, and Steve's Job and Wozniak, were both intimately familiar with the PLATO system.
In another great book about the era, "Dealers in Lightning" about the team at XEROX Parc, in Palo Alto,
"Early in 1972, researchers from Xerox PARC were given a tour of the PLATO system at the University of Illinois."
Of course, a few years later, after building the Xerox Star with graphical interface, both Microsoft and Apple were given tours of the new graphical interface, and promptly incorporated the concepts into what became the MacIntosh and Windows OS.
And, on that note, I have very clear memories of installing Windows 2.0 on 80286 Hewitt Rand computers (not the other HP) using the then very very new "paper white" monitors.
When I saw the subject line of this discussion I feared for the worst.
I am glad to see that a great many Slashdot readers are well educated in the relatively simple concept of national voting.
When a potential 230 million voters need to have their opinion heard, it could be a very dangerous to rely on a simple majority.
Or, perhaps they are inventorying every component in those PC's, and reporting them seperately, according to the asset tracking software....
LOL
- $90 - one cpu
- $55 - one power supply
- $25 - one 256Mb DIMM
- $27 - the other 256Mb DIMM
Interesting in these days of web marketing....
These guys are confident enough in their market research and execution that they are willing to demonstrate the new features in a 'cast like this.
Most companies (unnamed, cause the list is so long..) would rather:
- release some text, maybe a screenshot or two (thinking games software now)
- repeat the same story over and over and over... and then
- leave it up to the community to generate the hype for them.
Things may not be perfect, but this is marketing I can appreciate. Try that with your favourite brand of gasoline.
CERN (Hadron colider, etc.) was experimenting with TCP optimization back in 2004, and their experiments, involving 1Gbps and 10Gbps trans-atlantic networks, showed that basic TCP buffer tweaking could get 20x improvement in transfer speeds, mostly because of this RTT issue and the default DCP behaviour to halve the transmit window every time one packet needed retransmission. Many existing implementations of TCP, even after Reno, still assume that any packet loss at all might mean a bandwidth constraint. So, for the next while it would transmit half the data.
http://www.broadnets.org/2004/workshop-papers/Path nets/03_TCPHighSpeedWAN-SylvianRavot.pdf
I'm wondering, maybe there really is something to be said for optimizing your TCP settings for your primary links. I'm certainly gonna do some reading up, before I go spending money on Citrix (Bluecoat) or Riverbed or all those other optimization boxes, even FastTCP...
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from the post:
Someone has managed to install Windows 7 onto a 266 MHz Pentium II processor, 96 MB of SDRAM memory, and a 4 MB video card. But even a Pentium III system took 17 hours to install Windows 7, and it takes 17 minutes to boot the machine. Someone else claims to have... "installed Win 7 RC on a Pentium III 850 MHz notebook with 512 MB RAM and 100 MHz FSB in slightly less than 1 hour and it works exceptionally well." Monday, July 06, 2009 7:49 AM
https://social.technet.microso...
Memory ! what it used to be.
That was a great read.
You are likely correct. No official visit or tour, as is the case with Jobs and Atkinson from Apple in 1979. I don't have my copy of the "Dealers in Lightning" at the moment but I thought I remembered Gates being offered a tour.
A year and a bit later, Microsoft hired Charles Simonyi from Xerox, where he'd been working since 1974 on WYSIWYG wordprocessor software. Simonyi was hired "to port the Alto's Bravo word processing software to other personal computer platforms under the name Microsoft Word." quote from http://appleinsider.com/articl...
This is perhaps less direct than the official visit...
Back to the original post, I am certain that Bill Gates, and Steve's Job and Wozniak, were both intimately familiar with the PLATO system. In another great book about the era, "Dealers in Lightning" about the team at XEROX Parc, in Palo Alto, "Early in 1972, researchers from Xerox PARC were given a tour of the PLATO system at the University of Illinois."
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t...
Of course, a few years later, after building the Xerox Star with graphical interface, both Microsoft and Apple were given tours of the new graphical interface, and promptly incorporated the concepts into what became the MacIntosh and Windows OS.
And, on that note, I have very clear memories of installing Windows 2.0 on 80286 Hewitt Rand computers (not the other HP) using the then very very new "paper white" monitors.
I agree. And I haven't seen signs of coercion to utter anything at this point.
When I saw the subject line of this discussion I feared for the worst. I am glad to see that a great many Slashdot readers are well educated in the relatively simple concept of national voting. When a potential 230 million voters need to have their opinion heard, it could be a very dangerous to rely on a simple majority.
The animation reminds me of those Supermarionation TV shows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Or, perhaps they are inventorying every component in those PC's, and reporting them seperately, according to the asset tracking software.... LOL - $90 - one cpu - $55 - one power supply - $25 - one 256Mb DIMM - $27 - the other 256Mb DIMM
Interesting in these days of web marketing.... These guys are confident enough in their market research and execution that they are willing to demonstrate the new features in a 'cast like this. Most companies (unnamed, cause the list is so long..) would rather: - release some text, maybe a screenshot or two (thinking games software now) - repeat the same story over and over and over... and then - leave it up to the community to generate the hype for them. Things may not be perfect, but this is marketing I can appreciate. Try that with your favourite brand of gasoline.
CERN (Hadron colider, etc.) was experimenting with TCP optimization back in 2004, and their experiments, involving 1Gbps and 10Gbps trans-atlantic networks, showed that basic TCP buffer tweaking could get 20x improvement in transfer speeds, mostly because of this RTT issue and the default DCP behaviour to halve the transmit window every time one packet needed retransmission. Many existing implementations of TCP, even after Reno, still assume that any packet loss at all might mean a bandwidth constraint. So, for the next while it would transmit half the data. http://www.broadnets.org/2004/workshop-papers/Path nets/03_TCPHighSpeedWAN-SylvianRavot.pdf
I'm wondering, maybe there really is something to be said for optimizing your TCP settings for your primary links. I'm certainly gonna do some reading up, before I go spending money on Citrix (Bluecoat) or Riverbed or all those other optimization boxes, even FastTCP...