Why the hell would you "self-host" a cloud service?
I switched from using DropBox in the cloud to a FreeNAS file server at home since I rarely access those files over the Internet. Now I don't have to worry about losing my data via the Internet.
That wouldn't be an issue, except there is no IT degree, so people hire CS graduates, expecting them to be programmers or sys admins.
When I went back to community college to learn computer programming, I was required to take an IT-related class with hands on labs for hardware, software and networking. That class was meant to prepare students for the CompTIA A+ and Network+ certifications. I had my A+/Network+ certifications prior to taking the class since my work experience as a video game tester prepared me for those certifications.
Some people work to have a regular (not pop star) life.
As an IT support contractor, I haven't worked overtime in over ten years. My employment contracts prohibits me from working more than 40 hours a week. Fortune 500 companies and even the government are unwilling to pay overtime.
If you want to bust your ass off to live bad. You can surely ask for a pay reduction.
Why would they have policies against supporting users remotely?
If a user is working from home and can't access their workstation because its turned off, they should be calling their manager or driving into work to turn it on. They shouldn't be calling the help desk to avoid talking to their manager and/or driving into work.
Were you too stupid to know of those tools?
As a help desk tech, I don't think we had access to those tools.
SMS/SCCM is used by "Fortune 500" companies, and allows remote rebooting of PCs. Why are are you not managing user PCs in an effective manner?
Until I got into government IT, I wasn't aware of SCCM. Now that I'm responsible for 80,000+ workstations, I can reboot the entire network. One of the senior IT guys runs a script that automatically reboots 25% of the workstations each week.
The story seems absurd. That you are making up incompetence on your part to make an arguing point to make another slashdotter look stupid. You are only succeeding in making yourself look stupid.
The stupidity of your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
It's the IT's job to do whatever the company requires.
As an enterprise IT tech, I've never turned on a computer for a user. Not in person, not remotely.
And have you worked at a "real" fortune 500?
I've worked at eBay, Fujitsu, Google, Intuit, and Sony to name a few over 20+ years. Now that I work in government IT, I'm responsible for 80,000+ workstations.
Everyone I've worked at (5000+ employees and computers at all) had a way for IT to reboot without "running over" so long as the base OS was reachable.
That would be against the policies of the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for.
That someone wrote it in a book doesn't make it true.
Pull a college catalog. A bachelor degree is very general with half the required classes dedicated to liberal arts and the other half to a specific major. A master degree focuses on a very specific major in more detail. A PhD program focuses on the obscure details that few people will ever know about. See how education goes from everything to very little? Robert Kiyosaki's point is that too much education can prevent someone from being a successful business person because the education system focuses on getting the right answers versus taking risks. Someone with a PhD will take less risk than someone with a bachelor degree or no higher education at all. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are two notable college dropouts who took great risk and changed the world.
They must have been shitty doctors.
Heart surgeons.
I've seen IT people fired for less.
I've seen IT people fired for not enforcing policy.
[...] come in as a foreign student and get a college degree for free or severely reduced cost [...]
You appear to be misinformed. International students typically pay three times more than a typical American student. They're actually subsidizing public colleges at $9B per year.
Sounds to me like he wanted to play a joke on you or someone put him up to it.
It wasn't a joke. His help desk ticket history showed that he was a new hire without an assigned manager. He obviously fell through the cracks. Google was hiring 300+ people per week back then.
While I believe YOU ARE NAIVE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE he couldn't understand how to turn something on, occums razor suggests it is more likely that this is a joke played on you.
If I thought he was pulling a joke, I would have reported him to security and have him escorted off the campus.
More likely you've been fired too often and no one wants to work with you.
The only time I ever got fired was when I was working in construction with my father and I got into a fist fight with the boss's grandson when he threatened me with a piece of rebar. That was 25 years ago. Today I'm a successful IT support contractor. Boss's grandson is a drug addict and his father closed the 60-year-old family construction business when he retired.
If you are a developer with over 2 years of experience, you should be making $200K - at least. Some of the guys are making over $350K.
I'm not software developer. I work in government IT. The bad news is that I make significantly less than my Silicon Valley peers. The good news is that I work a regular 40 hour week, get the usual benefit package, paid federal holidays (40 hours), paid time off (80 hours) and unpaid time off (40 hours) per year, and I'm halfway through a five-year contract. My contracting agency gave an extra month in pay as a Christmas bonus last month.
Wouldn't it be awesome if you were able to bank over $150K a year after tax?
I bank 20% of my income after tax. If I moved to the Sacramento Valley, I could save up for a down payment, buy a $200K house and pay off the mortgage in 10 years.
I've been told in a previous comment that there are CS students who are interested in CS only for the money, graduate without ever touching a computer, and then expect to get paid six-figures for knowing CS theory without ever applying it.
Uh, no. It's not IT's job to turn on your computer. The Fortune 500 companies I've worked for in the past have policies in place that prevent IT techs from running over to turn or reboot a user's workstation.
You may also be shocked to learn that most mechanical engineering grads can't rebuild their car.
No, but mechanical engineers should know how to turn on the ignition switch.
Most electrical engineers can't re-wire a house.
No, but electrical engineers should know how to turn on a light switch.
As specialization increases you have people that are highly trained in one area but don't have the breadth of the 'jack of all trades' that exist in some fields.
Or, as Robert Kiyosaki writes in "Rich Dad, Poor Dad," the more you specialize about something in college the less you know about everything else in real life.
Next you'll be complaining your cardiologist is a terrible orthopedic surgeon. "But they're doctors, it's all pretty much the same".
No, but I do expect them to turn on their workstation in the examination room without calling IT to turn it on for them. Although I've shocked a few doctors when I refused to transfer their iTunes library to a new workstation because having iTunes installed on their workstation was against hospital policies.
I make $50K+ per year and live in a studio apartment by myself in Silicon Valley. If you live a modest lifestyle, you can do well here. But if you want to pursue the American Dream of having it all (i.e., big house, big cars, big wife and big kids), you need to earn big bucks for that.
Also sleeping on the floor?
Some people are willing to sacrifice to achieve their goals. I've known engineers who slept on floors to save up for a down payment on a $1M+ house in Silicon Valley.
Google has bidets in their restrooms. Great when they work. When they don't work, I find my balls touching the ice cold water in the bowl and my ass catching fire from a bad heating element in the seat. That's no way to take a shit.
Having a person to turn on the computer for you is the kind of thing you would expect in a heavily-unionized shop or a country where labor is exceedingly cheap.
Or volunteering to run the university computer lab as a prerequisite to join the computer priesthood to protect computers from users.
When I worked on the Google IT help desk in 2008, I had to walk a newly hired computer science graduate on how to TURN ON his workstation. He actually expected to find someone standing to turn on the workstations like they do at the university computer labs. He was shocked that he had to do manual labor.
I had several friends who abandoned computers for healthcare after the dot com bust. They make more money than I do today but they hate their jobs because all they do is wipe asses and change bed pans. Some of my best paying IT contracts has been hospitals. Go figure...
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Just switch off Metro and Cortana to use Windows 10 as a desktop OS. Not that much different than Windows 7.
Why the hell would you "self-host" a cloud service?
I switched from using DropBox in the cloud to a FreeNAS file server at home since I rarely access those files over the Internet. Now I don't have to worry about losing my data via the Internet.
That wouldn't be an issue, except there is no IT degree, so people hire CS graduates, expecting them to be programmers or sys admins.
When I went back to community college to learn computer programming, I was required to take an IT-related class with hands on labs for hardware, software and networking. That class was meant to prepare students for the CompTIA A+ and Network+ certifications. I had my A+/Network+ certifications prior to taking the class since my work experience as a video game tester prepared me for those certifications.
I'm sure that the few hundred dollars not spent on a good mattress sure got them there faster.
A mattress takes up space. A sleeping bag can be tossed into the closet.
Some people work to have a regular (not pop star) life.
As an IT support contractor, I haven't worked overtime in over ten years. My employment contracts prohibits me from working more than 40 hours a week. Fortune 500 companies and even the government are unwilling to pay overtime.
If you want to bust your ass off to live bad. You can surely ask for a pay reduction.
Or become a software developer.
You are confusing techs who swap out machines with software developers. IT is a very broad field.
I don't have much experience in dealing with devops — except for cleaning up their messes.
Because it'd almost be as if you had a little power? Don't get too excited from behind your helpdesk.
Power is replacing your computer with a box of crayons. I haven't done help desk for nearly a decade now.
Why would they have policies against supporting users remotely?
If a user is working from home and can't access their workstation because its turned off, they should be calling their manager or driving into work to turn it on. They shouldn't be calling the help desk to avoid talking to their manager and/or driving into work.
Were you too stupid to know of those tools?
As a help desk tech, I don't think we had access to those tools.
SMS/SCCM is used by "Fortune 500" companies, and allows remote rebooting of PCs. Why are are you not managing user PCs in an effective manner?
Until I got into government IT, I wasn't aware of SCCM. Now that I'm responsible for 80,000+ workstations, I can reboot the entire network. One of the senior IT guys runs a script that automatically reboots 25% of the workstations each week.
The story seems absurd. That you are making up incompetence on your part to make an arguing point to make another slashdotter look stupid. You are only succeeding in making yourself look stupid.
The stupidity of your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
The problem is 60K may be low on the west coast for IT [...]
Dell was paying $12.50 per hour plus mileage for techs to drive 500 miles around Silicon Valley. That's about $25K per year.
You have it wrong, you need to earn big macs. Plenty big macs.
According to Apple, the biggest big Mac you can get has 16GB RAM. ;)
It's the IT's job to do whatever the company requires.
As an enterprise IT tech, I've never turned on a computer for a user. Not in person, not remotely.
And have you worked at a "real" fortune 500?
I've worked at eBay, Fujitsu, Google, Intuit, and Sony to name a few over 20+ years. Now that I work in government IT, I'm responsible for 80,000+ workstations.
Everyone I've worked at (5000+ employees and computers at all) had a way for IT to reboot without "running over" so long as the base OS was reachable.
That would be against the policies of the Fortune 500 companies I've worked for.
That someone wrote it in a book doesn't make it true.
Pull a college catalog. A bachelor degree is very general with half the required classes dedicated to liberal arts and the other half to a specific major. A master degree focuses on a very specific major in more detail. A PhD program focuses on the obscure details that few people will ever know about. See how education goes from everything to very little? Robert Kiyosaki's point is that too much education can prevent someone from being a successful business person because the education system focuses on getting the right answers versus taking risks. Someone with a PhD will take less risk than someone with a bachelor degree or no higher education at all. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are two notable college dropouts who took great risk and changed the world.
They must have been shitty doctors.
Heart surgeons.
I've seen IT people fired for less.
I've seen IT people fired for not enforcing policy.
They are doctors, the rules don't apply.
You have obviously never worked in a hospital.
[...] come in as a foreign student and get a college degree for free or severely reduced cost [...]
You appear to be misinformed. International students typically pay three times more than a typical American student. They're actually subsidizing public colleges at $9B per year.
http://www.businessinsider.com/foreign-students-pay-up-to-three-times-as-much-for-tuition-at-us-public-colleges-2016-9
I hope he quit and did something useful.
Based on my experience at working Fortune 500 companies, he probably got promoted to project manager and found the corporate credit card useful.
Why would selling technological products at home be a requirement? It's a global economy.
The global economy is the U.S. and Europe, both of which have established middle classes.
Sounds to me like he wanted to play a joke on you or someone put him up to it.
It wasn't a joke. His help desk ticket history showed that he was a new hire without an assigned manager. He obviously fell through the cracks. Google was hiring 300+ people per week back then.
While I believe YOU ARE NAIVE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE he couldn't understand how to turn something on, occums razor suggests it is more likely that this is a joke played on you.
If I thought he was pulling a joke, I would have reported him to security and have him escorted off the campus.
More likely you've been fired too often and no one wants to work with you.
The only time I ever got fired was when I was working in construction with my father and I got into a fist fight with the boss's grandson when he threatened me with a piece of rebar. That was 25 years ago. Today I'm a successful IT support contractor. Boss's grandson is a drug addict and his father closed the 60-year-old family construction business when he retired.
If you are a developer with over 2 years of experience, you should be making $200K - at least. Some of the guys are making over $350K.
I'm not software developer. I work in government IT. The bad news is that I make significantly less than my Silicon Valley peers. The good news is that I work a regular 40 hour week, get the usual benefit package, paid federal holidays (40 hours), paid time off (80 hours) and unpaid time off (40 hours) per year, and I'm halfway through a five-year contract. My contracting agency gave an extra month in pay as a Christmas bonus last month.
Wouldn't it be awesome if you were able to bank over $150K a year after tax?
I bank 20% of my income after tax. If I moved to the Sacramento Valley, I could save up for a down payment, buy a $200K house and pay off the mortgage in 10 years.
Shows you how bad CS is for basic IT skills
I've been told in a previous comment that there are CS students who are interested in CS only for the money, graduate without ever touching a computer, and then expect to get paid six-figures for knowing CS theory without ever applying it.
That is literally what IT is for.
Uh, no. It's not IT's job to turn on your computer. The Fortune 500 companies I've worked for in the past have policies in place that prevent IT techs from running over to turn or reboot a user's workstation.
You may also be shocked to learn that most mechanical engineering grads can't rebuild their car.
No, but mechanical engineers should know how to turn on the ignition switch.
Most electrical engineers can't re-wire a house.
No, but electrical engineers should know how to turn on a light switch.
As specialization increases you have people that are highly trained in one area but don't have the breadth of the 'jack of all trades' that exist in some fields.
Or, as Robert Kiyosaki writes in "Rich Dad, Poor Dad," the more you specialize about something in college the less you know about everything else in real life.
Next you'll be complaining your cardiologist is a terrible orthopedic surgeon. "But they're doctors, it's all pretty much the same".
No, but I do expect them to turn on their workstation in the examination room without calling IT to turn it on for them. Although I've shocked a few doctors when I refused to transfer their iTunes library to a new workstation because having iTunes installed on their workstation was against hospital policies.
Most Americans are stupid and most American Christians aren't Christians according to the Bible. Otherwise, Trump wouldn't be POTUS.
60k for a bay area job? what a joke!!!
I make $50K+ per year and live in a studio apartment by myself in Silicon Valley. If you live a modest lifestyle, you can do well here. But if you want to pursue the American Dream of having it all (i.e., big house, big cars, big wife and big kids), you need to earn big bucks for that.
Also sleeping on the floor?
Some people are willing to sacrifice to achieve their goals. I've known engineers who slept on floors to save up for a down payment on a $1M+ house in Silicon Valley.
They should introduce bidets in this country
Google has bidets in their restrooms. Great when they work. When they don't work, I find my balls touching the ice cold water in the bowl and my ass catching fire from a bad heating element in the seat. That's no way to take a shit.
Having a person to turn on the computer for you is the kind of thing you would expect in a heavily-unionized shop or a country where labor is exceedingly cheap.
Or volunteering to run the university computer lab as a prerequisite to join the computer priesthood to protect computers from users.
Refuse to tell us how to reboot our Dells?
When I worked on the Google IT help desk in 2008, I had to walk a newly hired computer science graduate on how to TURN ON his workstation. He actually expected to find someone standing to turn on the workstations like they do at the university computer labs. He was shocked that he had to do manual labor.
Senior care.
I had several friends who abandoned computers for healthcare after the dot com bust. They make more money than I do today but they hate their jobs because all they do is wipe asses and change bed pans. Some of my best paying IT contracts has been hospitals. Go figure...