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Microsoft Gives Windows Device Makers Their 2017 Marching Orders (zdnet.com)
Microsoft officials have some fairly specific ideas about what they want their Windows-device-making partners to build in calendar 2017. From a report: Microsoft wants its OEMs and ODMs to make more Windows 10 detachables, convertibles, and ultraslims. They also are advising their partners to make devices and peripherals that highlight the "hero experiences" of Windows 10 involving Cortana, Windows Hello authentication, and Windows Ink. And another wish-list topper: Microsoft is looking for more Windows 10 PCs that can power mixed-reality peripherals and that are ready for gamers and "media fanatics."
Microsoft is asking it's OEMs to make Surface Pro competitors?
Can't Microsoft just offer PCs with Windows 7 once again? I don't like Windows 8, or 10.
Microsoft really should be listening to the device makers, not commanding them. Why is Microsoft still so friggin' arrogant towards its customers (a.k.a., product) and users? Hasn't the Windows 10 fiasco taught them any humility?
So what's it all about? Is it good? Or is it whack?
>microsoft is trying to force hardware manufacturers to build a cohesive apple brand image and UX for them (spread across 20 brands)
They have TOUCH SCREENS guys, how can they not be flying off the shelves?
"Hero Experiences"??
That's the best laugh I've had this week! Thanks, Microsoft!
Microsoft really thinks that the constant updating of Windows is a desirable feature? I disagree -- that "feature" is one of the top three reasons why I despise Windows 10.
Gamers, roundly mocked as pathetic nerds, turn out to be the economic and creative engine driving most computer sales beyond commodity devices. Windows 10's "Game Mode" could not be a more naked attempt for Microsoft to beg people to play games on the OS.
Our $CORP is "on" Office 365, aka Teh Cloud. Including mailboxes.
Last day I got a mail from (Microsoft) Clutter: "Hi, this is clutterr and I am cleaning up your inbox. Please give us feedback".
Foaming at the mouth, I *gave* them feedback: they may, if they wish, stick their fingers up their collective asses. BUT KEEP THEM OUT OF MY INBOX.
I learnt something: hoover up all mail and archive locally.
How desperate are they that they have to prey like this on captive corporate audience?
Fuck Microsoft.
I would definitely buy what they smoked.
Sad state of affairs that the best way to use an MS product, or most things developed in the last few year, is to turn off the great new features.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
"We need you to flood the market with gimmicks to distract people from the fact that we want to abuse the fuck out of them and profit off of them like the cattle they are."
Hi Microsoft,
Thanks for all the features you're working on. I can tell you're trying and that's great. It's just that all I really want from windows 10 is windows 10. I know this is hard to understand, but when I read things like 'windows ink', I already know I don't want it despite not knowing what it is. To be clear, this means I want no cortana, ms account, hello, tiles, ads, edge, forced updates or telemetry. The OS I just described is win 10 enterprise LTSB, but you won't sell it to me (I've really tried to buy it too - your volume licensers won't even quote me for one license)
Windows 10 base OS is a GREAT OS. I want to buy it. You won't sell it to me. So my new Skylake build is running Windows 7.
I hope this feedback helps.
Regards
Anonymous Coward
look at the folder tree in outlook idiot, your email is still there
Gamers push the edges of software and hardware. They always have. The "Gamer PC" rig has been a thing since as long as I can remember and you still can't get a games console with a TitanXP in it.
In a perverse inversion Wintel has become WinVidia. There's nothing out there right now that can touch nVidia beyond Vega 10 and 1080Ti is but weeks away. The GPU *is* the modern PC, and they're built for gamers. Oh, and they also serve the HPC industry. Nvidia has it real good right now.
Your saying otherwise won't fool anyone into not believing that this is the false flag operation, you two anti-Trump people.
Giving someone their 'marching orders' basically means firing them. Therefore whoever wrote the headline has given a misleading spin to the story. As I read it, the headline says that Microsoft have sacked all their device makers. This is clearly not the case.
Are they going to use Bing videos instead?
Windows is like the tax software used to save time filing taxes only to have it take longer once you factor in brain-damaged UX interspersed with advertisements, repeated attempts to upsell forcing users to carefully navigate minefield to avoid being tricked into agreeing to additional services or "sharing" your information with god knows who for god knows why.
At the end of the experience you wish you had just filled out the damn form yourself and mailed it to the IRS.
Get some version of Linux instead, I recommend Linux Mint.
Google linux mint laptop leads to Linux Mint's partnership with ThinkPenguin. But there isn't a wide selection of laptops: nothing bigger or smaller than 14 inches. What company that isn't a Linux Mint partner makes laptops that work well with Linux Mint?
I looked it up, and "marching orders" more generally means "orders to move on". Microsoft wants laptop makers to move on from excessive focus on feature-poor laptops toward making PCs that take advantage of new features in Windows 10.Anniversary.
What are Hero Exp... OHHHHH! They're removing the headphone jacks!
When are they gonna produce straightforward machines that run Windows software well, don't get in the friggin way, have an app launcher that doesn't have ten tons of stupid AI in it, where a simple user-configurable menu (with a simple search facility) suffices, and so on. Like Apple, they are chasing the smartphone shiny consumer market and near-abandoning everybody else.
John_Chalisque
Low-cost, wearable hardware to enable 3D-waifu/life assistant A.I.
Gatebox seems like a neat first step, but it's trapped inside a box and it's not even a real hologram, just a flat display.
#DeleteFacebook
MS is just likely to piss off OEMs with these demands. Windows has been a failure on mobile devices and OEMs cannot afford to build devices that will not turn a profit. Windows is only hanging on the the desktop/laptop market because everyone just sees it as the default OS, even when they hate it. If MS can convince OEMs that there is a market, by backing up the targets with tangible market research, there is a chance that they will get their way. Bullying OEMs that are already selling products with alternative operating systems is unlikely to work.
HP, ASUS, Dell, Acer and other MS OEMs have released chromebooks that are much lower priced than Windows laptops but still capable of meeting the needs of many consumers. Business customers are less likely to give up Windows and turn to a chromebooks but it does show OEMs are keeping their options open. I would not expect these OEMs to entirely abandon Windows but would expect them to only release windows with product lines that they know has a profitable market. A miscalculation in MS demands could easily result in fewer devices shipping with Windows.
Guess "Microsoft issues design guidance to device makers" wouldn't get enough clicks.
The fact that everyone believes Trump supporters are racist is the exact reason you're here calling racist comments a "false flag operation".
I'd say there's about a 90% chance you're racist and too cowardly to admit it.
> look at the folder tree in outlook idiot, your email is still there
I don't care. It's HANDS OFF MY INBOX unless explicitly authorized. Basic politeness, I'd say.
Ah, and idiot yourself. Or microslave?
I think that must be a typo. Surely they mean zero, since the first thing that anyone concerned about security or performance should do when the get Windows 10 is disable Cortana.
...listen to customers?
No one seems to mention the idiotic "sideways" win10 logo. It resembles a speaker icon.
That's great and all but what about those of us that use computers for WORK. You know, businesses, your bread and butter? People who just need solid reliable machines instead of gimmicky bullshit?
Microsoft has to do something, because the OEMs typically flood the market with cheap desktop/laptop/all-in-one machines.
The end result is a cheap machine that barely functions, thrown onto the market, and bought by someone thinking that these computers are even fit-for-purpose.
Case in point: Anything with an AMD-E1 processor.
Those machines are barely usable and it makes Windows 10 look and run terrible, hurting OEM and Microsoft alike.
I've seen too many people buy them because of their price, and then realize that they wasted their money because the thing can only run application at a time, and trying to run two drags the whole computer to a crawl.
READY.
PRINT ""+-0
Consumers buy 2 el-cheapo machines @ $500 each. MS gets 2 Windows licences worth of revenue, and Intel sells 2 sets of chips. OEM gets very little profit.
Consumer buys 1 "ultrabook" @ $1000. MS gets 1 Windows licence worth of revenue, and Intel sells 1 set of chips. OEM gets a higher profit margin.
The OEMs may be better off, but MS sells fewer licences, and Intel sells fewer chipsets. WTF would Microsoft deliberately hurt their bottom line???
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
Think back to when MS used "Start me up" from the Rolling Stones in their ad campaigns. The line from that song they didn't use "it makes a grown man cry" sums up what happens with frustrating OS problems.
With all the shit and malware you have to go through to keep MS stuff going I suppose you could play it as "Hero Experiences" despite it being utterly trivial in comparison to the world around us. All the frustration of heroic acts without any actual danger (or achievement).
more like digital heroin
i'm sorry but the term "maker" is associated with people making things in the IoT arena , lone hackers that MAKE amazing things with arduino , raspberry pi , pine54 , not corporations that churn cheap gadgets for microsoft mobile (wet) dreams , coming from a dumb fuck user i would excuse the error , but from a /.'er ....please dont do the same mistake as with "hacker"
No, people are all over the map on what they believe, but the most sensible people still have a wait and see attitude towards Trump. As for Trump supporters being racist, the ones that are are generally white supremacists who promote their superiority over all other people. It is the Left that singles out groups for special treatment.
This is like car companies demanding states to build more curvy roads to drive on to highlight the headlight turning feature of their cars.
Some of my friends are buying second hand (Windows 7 era) devices and making them into Linux boxes to retain the right to use what they want. Second hand prices going up, MS devices dependent on locked OEMs. This may effect OEM box makers.
Regards Eion MacDonald
Well, what about what hardware I want?!
I want hardware that gives me flexibility to use with any other relevant software I choose!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
I think I've seen Windows 10. Horrible thing - last drive I had with it on I pulled and replaced with a blank as soon as I got the machine home.
All the rest - I've literally never heard of.
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