You posted a photo. You ain't 350lbs of muscle. Hulk Hogan at his heaviest was 303 lbs of muscle. The 5x winner of worlds strongest man is 320 lbs. You are not them.
Look at my picture. I'm not a butterball. I have more muscle mass than fat mass. When I worked at the gym for a year at the gym to increase my weight from 325 pounds to 400 pounds, I had a lot more muscle mass than I do now. But finding 4XL t-shirts was a bitch. So I dropped down to 350 pounds and wear 2XL t-shirts. If you compared me with a 250 pound fat guy, I have more muscle mass.
This is a purely genetic game here because my mom's family all died (relatively) young and my dad's family are all dying old.
My father retired at 59-1/2-years-old because he was tired of construction work and all his older brothers kicked the bucket at 60. Unlike his older brothers, he stopped smoking after 30 years. He lived to be 75-years-old.
I think in an ideal world, you would want to lose weight.
In an ideal world I should be losing weight on a low carb and calorie-reduced diet.
You've seen people 2x heavier than you on public transit? How many?
About two dozen people in the past year on bus lines that go into the local hospitals. None of these people have muscle mass.
They're talking about problems with people around the 440lb mark. That's not twice your weight.
You denied that 4X people exist, so I provided a link. Then you denied that 2X people exist, so I provided a link. And, just in case you're being nitpicky, I provided a link for 3X people. What's your point?
That's lighter than you.
There's a difference between 250 pounds of fat and 350 pounds of muscle mass.
How does finding a single example or even a handful refute my point that almost no one is that heavy.
Because I've seen people who are heavier than me on public transit. I take up a single seat on the bus. These people take up two or three seats in the handicap area.
Here's another example: 5,000 super-sized people per year are denied access to medical helicopters because their weight.
Ummmmmm, so how much did/do you weigh 7 years later? Why did you omit that relevant detail?
As a teenager, 400 pounds. As young adult riding my bicycle 20 miles per day for three years, 325 pounds. Weight training and building muscle mass, 400 pounds. I'm currently 350 pounds.
Coworkers. I get lectured frequently on the virtues of drinking water — never mind that I have a pitcher of water on my desk. Another coworker loudly recommended that I get lap band surgery in the middle of a meeting.
Also dude, you're 350lbs: people 4x your weight don't exist.
[...] there's lots of research showing that the regularly recommended starvation strategies actually lead to no benefit over time or even weight gain because of the body's permanent decrease in metabolic rates.
The NY Times had a great article on the study of a group from The Biggest Loser TV show, where their metabolism actually slowed down enough to require significantly less calories and they gained weight on a recommended diet for their height and age.
I sometimes wonder if that's my current situation. When I asked for a ten-speed bicycle for my 17th birthday, my father told me it was of money as the bicycle sit in the garage. I then spent the summer riding that bike everywhere (including a 36-mile trip in one day) and losing 70 pounds. As an young adult, I rode 20 miles per day to a restaurant job for three years.
Morbidly obese doesn't mean "you're guaranteed to drop dead", much like smoking 60 fags a day doesn't mean you're guaranteed to drop dead.
Not according to the self-righteous fat shamers, fitness nuts and ACs. The morbidly obese label should apply to people who are 2X, 3X or 4X bigger than I am. I see them all the time on public transit.
Excess weight is, however, causally correlated with a wide variety of different health problems.
I've taken steps to reduce those health risks by eating healthy, exercising regularly and getting enough sleep. The only thing I'm not doing as some people encouraged me to do is commit suicide.
That's an extremely low intake for an adult male.
Not necessarily. The average American eat 300+ grams of carbs and 2,000+ calories. A low-carb diet is 150 grams of carbs or less per day (some people eat only 27 grams of carb per day). Four months ago I reduce my calorie intake from 2,000 calories to 1,500 calories per day. The most noticeable change is fat moving off my sides. That might be from the rowing machine at the gym.
So how do you know?
I feel better, look better and sleep better than 15 years ago. Back then, I was a butterball with nice legs from bicycling 20 miles per day. Today I'm more muscle mass than fat.
If you haven't been to a doctor in 15 years - how do you know you are "in better health today than I ever was before"?
I feel better, look better and sleep better than 15 years ago. Back then, I was a butterball with nice legs from bicycling 20 miles per day. Today I'm more muscle mass than fat.
Maybe if you were eating 1,500 calories a meal, three times a day you would be maintaining that weight.
Nope. I eat 150 grams of carbs and 1,500 calories per day. This has been my current diet for the last four months. The fat is coming off my sides. That might be from the rowing machine at the gym.
After all, you don't want those relatives of yours spilling drinks and cigarette ashes into your coffin.
That's assuming I have any relatives left when I die. They're dropping like flies these days.
That photo is clearly shows someone sucking in the gut. It doesn't hide the big tits and rolls of fat on the chin.
I'm not sucking in my gut. I have broad shoulders and a narrow waist. I'm not wearing a weight-lifting belt either.
You might feel that you're in reasonable shape, but you'd be a lot better off 100 pounds lighter.
My average used to be 325 pounds from riding my bike 20 miles per day. When I stopped doing that and started lifting weights at the gym, my weight went to 400 pounds. Since finding t-shirts in 4XL was a PITA, I stopped lifting weights in favor cardio and my weight dropped to 350 pounds. That's my weight for the last 10+ years.
You are already making your heart work a lot harder, as well as putting a much higher load on your joints.
I've been 300+ pounds since I was ten years old. My last bout of hypertension was in my teen years before I started riding my bike 20 miles per day. I have very strong legs from bicycling all those years. As for my joints, I'm not stupid enough to blow them out while playing basketball like so many of my skinny friends. You won't ever see me hobbling around after knee surgery.
Do it for yourself, not for others.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
It's because you probably know what the Doctor is going to tell you.
The explanation is you eat trash and don't exercise.
I ate the same thing as my skinny parents and had an active lifestyle as a kid. Being a Gen Xer, I had no choice but to run around the neighborhood.
Close your mouth and do some physical activities.
As a young adult working at an Italian restaurant job after college, I rode my bike 20 miles per day for three years. My average weight during that time was 325 pounds. After I quit that job, I didn't eat spaghetti for another seven years.
Why are some restaurants serving 1,500-calorie plates on their menu?
This is a major reason why I don't eat out anymore. One plate is my entire food budget for day, assuming that the carbs are 150 grams or less. If I do eat out, I get the smallest serving possible or I take home two-thirds of the plate to eat for later meals. Unfortunately, some skinny people think I'm trying to... skinny... shame them for eating an extravagant meal because I'm sticking to my diet goals. They got this weird idea that I should be shoveling four or five plates at a time because BMI says I'm morbidly obese.
Being fat is a choice. Own it AND pay for it, I say.
Not always. A sixth-grade principal tried to fat shame my parents by calling them into a conference to explain why I was the proverbial fat kid at school. He was shocked to find out that my parents were skinnier than he was. It became a big mystery on how two skinny people can have a fat kid. For three years I was subjected to a dozen blood tests to determine why I was fat. No medical explanation was ever found. After my mother passed away from breast cancer a few years ago, I came across some black-and-white photos of her side of the family. The guys at the turn of the century were bigger than me and probably lumberjacks back then. Maybe genetics skipped a few generations throughout the Depression and World War II.
Usually fewer than one in five men will die before the age of 70, but that jumps to nearly one in three for the moderately obese, and eight in 10 for the morbidly obese.
I'm 47-YO, 5'-11" and 350 pounds (see pic link below). According to BMI and the experts on Slashdot, I'm morbidly obese and should have dropped dead three years ago.
Except for one small problem: I don't believe that bullshit.
Why? Because I take care of myself. I eat a 150g carbs/1,500-calorie diet, I walk 20 minutes daily and work out at the gym on weekends. I also maintain a positive attitude and don't allow fat shamers to bully me. I'll probably live longer than my hard-drinking, chain-smoking relatives who are dropping like flies these days. Although I haven't been to a doctor in 15 years, I'm in better health today than I ever was before.
Don't expect free, people. There's always a price.
Unless it's Social Security. You paid into the system. Even though you get more back in benefits than you actually deserve. Never mind that seniors will outnumber workers (taxpayers), Social Security/Medicare will consume two-thirds of federal budgets, and taxes will have to go way up to pay for everything else in 2030.
[...] we still work our asses off for the "American Dream" we were promised knowing full well we're just as fucked [...]
I gave up on the American Dream and settled for a modest lifestyle. Since I only make $50K in government IT support, I can't afford the American Dream in Silicon Valley. Big houses, big cars, big women and big kids get expensive in a hurry.
When my roommates and I split up after living in the same triplex in Cupertino for six years, the landlord was happy to see us go. We were paying $1,600 per month. After we moved out, he raised the rent to $3,200 as the real estate market sizzled in the run up to the dot com bust. If he still owns the triplex today, the rent should be astronomical now as the triplex is down the street from the new Apple campus and the nearby shopping mall is being rebuilt into a mixed development.
Tell me how well Vista worked with all of the peripherals it made instantly obsolete.
I've never experienced that problem at home. Many of the Fortune 500 companies I've worked at in IT support ran Windows XP until Windows 7 came out. Vista in the workplace was a non-issue.
Microsoft already set a pretty low bar with Windows ME and Vista.
ME was unforgiveable. But Vista worked quite well with extra hardware like a quad-core processor and 4GB or more of RAM. Since I originally built my system for Vista, I had no problems running Windows 10.
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You posted a photo. You ain't 350lbs of muscle. Hulk Hogan at his heaviest was 303 lbs of muscle. The 5x winner of worlds strongest man is 320 lbs. You are not them.
Look at my picture. I'm not a butterball. I have more muscle mass than fat mass. When I worked at the gym for a year at the gym to increase my weight from 325 pounds to 400 pounds, I had a lot more muscle mass than I do now. But finding 4XL t-shirts was a bitch. So I dropped down to 350 pounds and wear 2XL t-shirts. If you compared me with a 250 pound fat guy, I have more muscle mass.
This is a purely genetic game here because my mom's family all died (relatively) young and my dad's family are all dying old.
My father retired at 59-1/2-years-old because he was tired of construction work and all his older brothers kicked the bucket at 60. Unlike his older brothers, he stopped smoking after 30 years. He lived to be 75-years-old.
I think in an ideal world, you would want to lose weight.
In an ideal world I should be losing weight on a low carb and calorie-reduced diet.
You've seen people 2x heavier than you on public transit? How many?
About two dozen people in the past year on bus lines that go into the local hospitals. None of these people have muscle mass.
They're talking about problems with people around the 440lb mark. That's not twice your weight.
You denied that 4X people exist, so I provided a link. Then you denied that 2X people exist, so I provided a link. And, just in case you're being nitpicky, I provided a link for 3X people. What's your point?
That's lighter than you.
There's a difference between 250 pounds of fat and 350 pounds of muscle mass.
I work in government IT. My facility has two Pokemon gyms. I found a Zubat Pokemon at the bus stop down the street.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Zubat_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
How does finding a single example or even a handful refute my point that almost no one is that heavy.
Because I've seen people who are heavier than me on public transit. I take up a single seat on the bus. These people take up two or three seats in the handicap area.
Here's another example: 5,000 super-sized people per year are denied access to medical helicopters because their weight.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/too-fat-rescue-more-heavy-patients-denied-air-ambulances-f6C10485763
Almost no one is even 2x your weight let alone 4x.
The Internet disagrees with you on 2X.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034839/The-worlds-fattest-woman-700-pound-California-woman-enters-record-books.html
Here's a 3X reference.
http://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/a703/esq0806wifl-114-4/
Ummmmmm, so how much did/do you weigh 7 years later? Why did you omit that relevant detail?
As a teenager, 400 pounds. As young adult riding my bicycle 20 miles per day for three years, 325 pounds. Weight training and building muscle mass, 400 pounds. I'm currently 350 pounds.
Not sure where you got fitness nuts from [...]
Coworkers. I get lectured frequently on the virtues of drinking water — never mind that I have a pitcher of water on my desk. Another coworker loudly recommended that I get lap band surgery in the middle of a meeting.
Also dude, you're 350lbs: people 4x your weight don't exist.
The Internet disagrees with you.
http://mostextreme.org/heaviest_man.php
[...] there's lots of research showing that the regularly recommended starvation strategies actually lead to no benefit over time or even weight gain because of the body's permanent decrease in metabolic rates.
The NY Times had a great article on the study of a group from The Biggest Loser TV show, where their metabolism actually slowed down enough to require significantly less calories and they gained weight on a recommended diet for their height and age.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html
I sometimes wonder if that's my current situation. When I asked for a ten-speed bicycle for my 17th birthday, my father told me it was of money as the bicycle sit in the garage. I then spent the summer riding that bike everywhere (including a 36-mile trip in one day) and losing 70 pounds. As an young adult, I rode 20 miles per day to a restaurant job for three years.
Morbidly obese doesn't mean "you're guaranteed to drop dead", much like smoking 60 fags a day doesn't mean you're guaranteed to drop dead.
Not according to the self-righteous fat shamers, fitness nuts and ACs. The morbidly obese label should apply to people who are 2X, 3X or 4X bigger than I am. I see them all the time on public transit.
Excess weight is, however, causally correlated with a wide variety of different health problems.
I've taken steps to reduce those health risks by eating healthy, exercising regularly and getting enough sleep. The only thing I'm not doing as some people encouraged me to do is commit suicide.
That's an extremely low intake for an adult male.
Not necessarily. The average American eat 300+ grams of carbs and 2,000+ calories. A low-carb diet is 150 grams of carbs or less per day (some people eat only 27 grams of carb per day). Four months ago I reduce my calorie intake from 2,000 calories to 1,500 calories per day. The most noticeable change is fat moving off my sides. That might be from the rowing machine at the gym.
So how do you know?
I feel better, look better and sleep better than 15 years ago. Back then, I was a butterball with nice legs from bicycling 20 miles per day. Today I'm more muscle mass than fat.
If you haven't been to a doctor in 15 years - how do you know you are "in better health today than I ever was before"?
I feel better, look better and sleep better than 15 years ago. Back then, I was a butterball with nice legs from bicycling 20 miles per day. Today I'm more muscle mass than fat.
Maybe if you were eating 1,500 calories a meal, three times a day you would be maintaining that weight.
Nope. I eat 150 grams of carbs and 1,500 calories per day. This has been my current diet for the last four months. The fat is coming off my sides. That might be from the rowing machine at the gym.
After all, you don't want those relatives of yours spilling drinks and cigarette ashes into your coffin.
That's assuming I have any relatives left when I die. They're dropping like flies these days.
That photo is clearly shows someone sucking in the gut. It doesn't hide the big tits and rolls of fat on the chin.
I'm not sucking in my gut. I have broad shoulders and a narrow waist. I'm not wearing a weight-lifting belt either.
You might feel that you're in reasonable shape, but you'd be a lot better off 100 pounds lighter.
My average used to be 325 pounds from riding my bike 20 miles per day. When I stopped doing that and started lifting weights at the gym, my weight went to 400 pounds. Since finding t-shirts in 4XL was a PITA, I stopped lifting weights in favor cardio and my weight dropped to 350 pounds. That's my weight for the last 10+ years.
You are already making your heart work a lot harder, as well as putting a much higher load on your joints.
I've been 300+ pounds since I was ten years old. My last bout of hypertension was in my teen years before I started riding my bike 20 miles per day. I have very strong legs from bicycling all those years. As for my joints, I'm not stupid enough to blow them out while playing basketball like so many of my skinny friends. You won't ever see me hobbling around after knee surgery.
Do it for yourself, not for others.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
It's because you probably know what the Doctor is going to tell you.
Except for my weight, all my numbers are great!
The explanation is you eat trash and don't exercise.
I ate the same thing as my skinny parents and had an active lifestyle as a kid. Being a Gen Xer, I had no choice but to run around the neighborhood.
Close your mouth and do some physical activities.
As a young adult working at an Italian restaurant job after college, I rode my bike 20 miles per day for three years. My average weight during that time was 325 pounds. After I quit that job, I didn't eat spaghetti for another seven years.
"... I blame society. Society made me what I am."
Why are some restaurants serving 1,500-calorie plates on their menu?
This is a major reason why I don't eat out anymore. One plate is my entire food budget for day, assuming that the carbs are 150 grams or less. If I do eat out, I get the smallest serving possible or I take home two-thirds of the plate to eat for later meals. Unfortunately, some skinny people think I'm trying to... skinny... shame them for eating an extravagant meal because I'm sticking to my diet goals. They got this weird idea that I should be shoveling four or five plates at a time because BMI says I'm morbidly obese.
Being fat is a choice. Own it AND pay for it, I say.
Not always. A sixth-grade principal tried to fat shame my parents by calling them into a conference to explain why I was the proverbial fat kid at school. He was shocked to find out that my parents were skinnier than he was. It became a big mystery on how two skinny people can have a fat kid. For three years I was subjected to a dozen blood tests to determine why I was fat. No medical explanation was ever found. After my mother passed away from breast cancer a few years ago, I came across some black-and-white photos of her side of the family. The guys at the turn of the century were bigger than me and probably lumberjacks back then. Maybe genetics skipped a few generations throughout the Depression and World War II.
Usually fewer than one in five men will die before the age of 70, but that jumps to nearly one in three for the moderately obese, and eight in 10 for the morbidly obese.
I'm 47-YO, 5'-11" and 350 pounds (see pic link below). According to BMI and the experts on Slashdot, I'm morbidly obese and should have dropped dead three years ago.
http://www.cdreimer.com/images/cdreimer_350.jpg
Except for one small problem: I don't believe that bullshit.
Why? Because I take care of myself. I eat a 150g carbs/1,500-calorie diet, I walk 20 minutes daily and work out at the gym on weekends. I also maintain a positive attitude and don't allow fat shamers to bully me. I'll probably live longer than my hard-drinking, chain-smoking relatives who are dropping like flies these days. Although I haven't been to a doctor in 15 years, I'm in better health today than I ever was before.
Don't expect free, people. There's always a price.
Unless it's Social Security. You paid into the system. Even though you get more back in benefits than you actually deserve. Never mind that seniors will outnumber workers (taxpayers), Social Security/Medicare will consume two-thirds of federal budgets, and taxes will have to go way up to pay for everything else in 2030.
[...] we still work our asses off for the "American Dream" we were promised knowing full well we're just as fucked [...]
I gave up on the American Dream and settled for a modest lifestyle. Since I only make $50K in government IT support, I can't afford the American Dream in Silicon Valley. Big houses, big cars, big women and big kids get expensive in a hurry.
Where does all this hate for millenials comes from?
Gen Xer's who are stuck between the Baby Boomers who got everything and the millennials who whine about everything.
Yes, you read that correctly.
When my roommates and I split up after living in the same triplex in Cupertino for six years, the landlord was happy to see us go. We were paying $1,600 per month. After we moved out, he raised the rent to $3,200 as the real estate market sizzled in the run up to the dot com bust. If he still owns the triplex today, the rent should be astronomical now as the triplex is down the street from the new Apple campus and the nearby shopping mall is being rebuilt into a mixed development.
If your intent is to move to Vegas one day, what's stopping you from doing it today?
I'm 25 years away from retirement. If I'm going to spend my twilight years at the casinos, I'll need to save up for some gambling money.
Tell me how well Vista worked with all of the peripherals it made instantly obsolete.
I've never experienced that problem at home. Many of the Fortune 500 companies I've worked at in IT support ran Windows XP until Windows 7 came out. Vista in the workplace was a non-issue.
Microsoft already set a pretty low bar with Windows ME and Vista.
ME was unforgiveable. But Vista worked quite well with extra hardware like a quad-core processor and 4GB or more of RAM. Since I originally built my system for Vista, I had no problems running Windows 10.
You can make things other than computers out of silicon, you know.
You're correct. Can't have software fairies without having sand castles.
"Oh, God! Not IE6 again?!"