The reason that denying the holocaust is illegal is entirely because of public opinion - or rather public fear as to what it might lead to.... why single out just the one false statement from all the other false things idiots say?
Germany outlaws both Holocaust denial and various expressions of Nazi culture. They rightly recognize that the danger those pose is political and those would be rallying cries to restore the threat to being a present danger again. There are still neo-Nazis in Germany waiting for their chance. Do you want to give it to them unimpeded? Anti-Semitism is on the rise again across Europe already despite the mass slaughter that is still within living memory and taught in schools.
Even in the US one may be punished for yelling "Fire!!" in a crowded theater. Based on their experience of two World Wars, the Germans concluded that shouting "Heil Hitler!" and "There was no Holocaust" are similarly dangerous and merit controls... in their country. That seems to be fairly narrow and tailored to address the problem.
Is the country ruled by a committee designated by the Church? Is the supreme ruling authority a council of priests? Is there an official state religion? No? Then that is what is being talked about.
Sort of. In practice punishment over various forms of speech regarding religion is a problem in Europe. What makes this so unusual is that it relates to punishment for disparagement of a Christian figure. Punishment for expression of views related to Christianity is the general rule.
The organ theft urban legend has been around for a long time, but organ transplant isn't just something any unethical surgeon can do in the back of a fan.
Unethical surgeons aided by criminal enterprises (which is sometimes the state) seem to be available.
GURGAON, India — As the anesthetic wore off, Naseem Mohammed said, he felt an acute pain in the lower left side of his abdomen. Fighting drowsiness, he fumbled beneath the unfamiliar folds of a green medical gown and traced his fingers over a bandage attached with surgical tape. An armed guard by the door told him that his kidney had been removed.
Mr. Mohammed was the last of about 500 Indians whose kidneys were removed by a team of doctors running an illegal transplant operation, supplying kidneys to rich Indians and foreigners, police officials said. A few hours after his operation last Thursday, the police raided the clinic and moved him to a government hospital.
Many of the donors were day laborers, like Mr. Mohammed, picked up from the streets with the offer of work, driven to a well-equipped private clinic, and duped or forced at gunpoint to undergo operations.
The baby who had been ripped from her slain mother’s womb was found alive and well in New Hampshire last night, and a woman was arrested in the grisly killing and kidnapping
So, do you have a timeline for when other *BSD and Linux distributions switched to signed packages? It looks to me that FreeBSD only started that move at the end of October, and doesn't appear to be there yet. I don't think I would call that a "crushing" lead.
There wouldn't happen to be some trolling going on with your post, is there? Especially the "security by arrogance" bit?
Pkg 1.2 will be released in the coming month which will bring many improvements including officially signed packages. FreeBSD 10's pkg bootstrap now also supports signed pkg(8) installation.
Very much so. And I will also point out that Eugene Volokh is quite an interesting fellow with a great blog. Lots of interesting commentary there. Legal Insurrection is another great legal blog.
Volokh worked for 12 years as a computer programmer. He graduated from UCLA with a B.S. in math-computer science at age 15, and has written many articles on computer software. Volokh was born in the USSR; his family emigrated to the U.S. when he was seven years old.
Because child prodigy is no longer in Soviet Russia, free speech comes to you!
Actually, no, there isn't reasonable doubt about the contributions of women to science. Now if you want to make a different argument, one about the impact of political correctness, or various strains of "progressive" or feminist ideology and the negative impact to various aspects of society, you are on more solid ground. It appears that American, and indeed Western society, is bound and determined to push certain bad ideas until they are enacted policies, which will be setting the stage for future highly regrettable consequences.
There is no doubt that women have made many important contributions to science. One may argue this one or that is or isn't a genius, but there is little doubt that science would be poorer without their contribution.
Since I think we know that few scientists are billionaires, and yet scientific fraud is documented to exist, you just might be distorting the picture. (I like the bit about, "might as well add creationism while we are into denialism." It really added to your argument. You should have suggested a more sophisticated cocktail for sipping on a "billion dollar yacht" though.) Thank goodness that everyone associated with climate science is clean, eh?
The psychologist, who admitted "massaging" the data in some of his papers, resigned from his position in June after being investigated by his university, which had been tipped off by Uri Simonsohn from the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. Simonsohn carried out an independent analysis of the data and was suspicious of how perfect many of Smeesters' results seemed when, statistically speaking, there should have been more variation in his measurements.
The case, which led to two scientific papers being retracted, came on the heels of an even bigger fraud, uncovered last year, perpetrated by the Dutch psychologist Diederik Stapel. He was found to have fabricated data for years and published it in at least 30 peer-reviewed papers, including a report in the journal Science about how untidy environments may encourage discrimination.
The cases have sent shockwaves through a discipline that was already facing serious questions about plagiarism.
Verbeke and Tijdink cast a wide net, with support they received from the Pascal Decroos Fund for Investigative Journalism. They contacted researchers from the medical science faculties of every university in Flanders, sending out more than 2,500 questionnaires and receiving 315 fully completed anonymous responses in return.
The answers startled. Four of the researchers who responded, or 1.3 percent, acknowledged that they had fabricated data at least once during the past three years, misdeeds that may still be unpunished. What’s more, 23, or 7.3 percent, of those who sent back questionnaires had engaged in the quaint term “massaging”—in which data or results were removed to make their work true up with original hypotheses. The roughly 8 percent of fraudulent practices found at the universities in Flanders compared with an average of 2 percent of smelly stuff going on that turned up in a 2009 meta-analysis in PLoS ONE of studies from around the world......
Respondents said the publish or die imperative was one of the main reasons for the infractions. The survey found that two thirds of the professors polled ran into excessive pressure to get their work into journals and nearly 70 percent of all of those surveyed had added the name of one author who had not participated in a study.
Remember, get ALL your science data from politicians. They'd never ever lie. Nor would people who have a monetary interest in disproving something
Lets try flipping that and see how it works.
Remember, many scientists get their funding from politicians. They'd never stretch the truth, nor pervert science according to ideology. Nor would they pursue research out of a monetary interest or exaggerate its importance to keep the money flowing. And if disproving the claim that resulted in receiving most of their funding meant that the funding would then be lost, well then....
The actual heart of the matter is that you and many other people think that by calling me or judges names you will change what is, what is constitutional, what is lawful. It won't happen. A president of the abolitionist party (the Republicans) named Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in the Southern states by decree during the Civil War. It took a constitutional amendment to abolish slavery in the United States legally.
The next correct statement you make about the jurisprudence of the 4th Amendment may not be the first one, but it will be a refreshing change.
It's important to note that right now in US politics one party is completely and totally against the concept of scientific inquiry putting Newspeak-like religious rhetoric above all else.
There is no 'but the Democrats...' counterpoint on this...it's ALWAYS REPUBLICANS. It doesn't make the Democrat/Liberals better in some long-term philosophical way at all, but it forces a choice in a real-world context that alot of/.'ers can't mentally make.
(SNIP)
Good grief you are full of it. If you don't see problems with the science on both sides of the isle you aren't looking. Maybe you're simply blinded by partisanship.
.... twice as many Democrats as Republicans believe in astrology, a pseudoscientific medieval farce. Left-wing ideologues also frequently espouse an irrational fear of nuclear power, genetic modification, and industrial and agricultural chemistry—even though all of these scientific breakthroughs have enriched lives, lengthened lifespans, and produced substantial economic growth over the last century......
Stewart Brand, the 1960s environmental activist, has bemoaned opposition to genetically modified organisms as “irrational, anti-scientific, and very harmful.” The anti-GMO movement, largely a product of the political left, has reached levels of delusion, paranoia and anti-intellectualism worthy of Michele Bachmann and young-earth creationists.
Matters are more nuanced—or just plain favorable to Republicans—when it comes to the business of actually governing. Comparing the two parties' proposed funding levels for the major scientific research agencies doesn't lend itself well to narratives about who's “pro” or “anti” science. For every cheap shot a Republican member of Congress like Senator Tom Coburn has taken at National Science Foundation grants (see the unfairly maligned robo-squirrel), there are areas where Obama has undercut American leadership in basic science by favoring loan guarantees and industrial subsidies to the alternative-energy industry at the expense of science elsewhere.
We've seen this in his proposed cuts to high-energy physics, nuclear physics, planetary science, and other areas of research. Even in the much-maligned “Tea Party-dominated” House of Representatives, the GOP budget proposals provided more funding for the NSF than those of the Senate Democrats for the current 2013 fiscal year.
A narrative has developed over the past several years that the Republican Party is anti-science. Recently, thanks to the ignorant remarks about rape made by Rep. Todd Akin, the Democrats have seized the opportunity to remind us that they are the true champions of science in America. But is it really true?
No. As we thoroughly detail in our new book, "Science Left Behind," Democrats are willing to throw science under the bus for any number of pet ideological causes – including anything from genetic modification to vaccines.
Especially if what you believe is gleaned from your nightly newscast [ceasespin.org]. Far more people believe the TV than the Internet. The far-right has figured this out and is capitalizing on it at the polls.
If you bother to examine the table, "Education, Age, Knowledge" from this Pew Research Center poll, you will see some data you probably won't expect.
Absolutely. Having been born and raised in the "Bible Belt" I can attest first-hand to how very proud some people are of their ignorance and lack of education.
That cuts more than one way. If you bother to pay much attention you find terribly ignorant statements about all manner of things posted here, including things about Christianity and the Bible Belt. Did you notice? Many of those posters seem quite proud as well.
Slashdot Mirror
That clearly isn't the same.
The reason that denying the holocaust is illegal is entirely because of public opinion - or rather public fear as to what it might lead to. ... why single out just the one false statement from all the other false things idiots say?
Germany outlaws both Holocaust denial and various expressions of Nazi culture. They rightly recognize that the danger those pose is political and those would be rallying cries to restore the threat to being a present danger again. There are still neo-Nazis in Germany waiting for their chance. Do you want to give it to them unimpeded? Anti-Semitism is on the rise again across Europe already despite the mass slaughter that is still within living memory and taught in schools.
Even in the US one may be punished for yelling "Fire!!" in a crowded theater. Based on their experience of two World Wars, the Germans concluded that shouting "Heil Hitler!" and "There was no Holocaust" are similarly dangerous and merit controls ... in their country. That seems to be fairly narrow and tailored to address the problem.
Is the country ruled by a committee designated by the Church? Is the supreme ruling authority a council of priests? Is there an official state religion? No? Then that is what is being talked about.
EU law covers freedom of speech/expression.
Sort of. In practice punishment over various forms of speech regarding religion is a problem in Europe. What makes this so unusual is that it relates to punishment for disparagement of a Christian figure. Punishment for expression of views related to Christianity is the general rule.
The organ theft urban legend has been around for a long time, but organ transplant isn't just something any unethical surgeon can do in the back of a fan.
Unethical surgeons aided by criminal enterprises (which is sometimes the state) seem to be available.
Kidney Thefts Shock India
GURGAON, India — As the anesthetic wore off, Naseem Mohammed said, he felt an acute pain in the lower left side of his abdomen. Fighting drowsiness, he fumbled beneath the unfamiliar folds of a green medical gown and traced his fingers over a bandage attached with surgical tape. An armed guard by the door told him that his kidney had been removed.
Mr. Mohammed was the last of about 500 Indians whose kidneys were removed by a team of doctors running an illegal transplant operation, supplying kidneys to rich Indians and foreigners, police officials said. A few hours after his operation last Thursday, the police raided the clinic and moved him to a government hospital.
Many of the donors were day laborers, like Mr. Mohammed, picked up from the streets with the offer of work, driven to a well-equipped private clinic, and duped or forced at gunpoint to undergo operations.
Illegal kidney trade booms as new organ is 'sold every hour'
China Admits Selling Prisoners’ Organs
Stolen baby is found alive - Woman arrested in grisly case
The baby who had been ripped from her slain mother’s womb was found alive and well in New Hampshire last night, and a woman was arrested in the grisly killing and kidnapping
Social workers 'seize unborn baby from the WOMB' after mother has panic attack
You know they aren't really writing large programs since they haven't been forced to use 8" floppies.
They don't have much of a budget for advertising.
So, do you have a timeline for when other *BSD and Linux distributions switched to signed packages? It looks to me that FreeBSD only started that move at the end of October, and doesn't appear to be there yet. I don't think I would call that a "crushing" lead.
There wouldn't happen to be some trolling going on with your post, is there? Especially the "security by arrogance" bit?
Thu Oct 31 02:10:33 UTC 2013
Pkg 1.2 will be released in the coming month which will bring many
improvements including officially signed packages. FreeBSD 10's pkg
bootstrap now also supports signed pkg(8) installation.
A great victory for the blogosphere
Very much so. And I will also point out that Eugene Volokh is quite an interesting fellow with a great blog. Lots of interesting commentary there. Legal Insurrection is another great legal blog.
Volokh worked for 12 years as a computer programmer. He graduated from UCLA with a B.S. in math-computer science at age 15, and has written many articles on computer software. Volokh was born in the USSR; his family emigrated to the U.S. when he was seven years old.
Because child prodigy is no longer in Soviet Russia, free speech comes to you!
Actually, no, there isn't reasonable doubt about the contributions of women to science. Now if you want to make a different argument, one about the impact of political correctness, or various strains of "progressive" or feminist ideology and the negative impact to various aspects of society, you are on more solid ground. It appears that American, and indeed Western society, is bound and determined to push certain bad ideas until they are enacted policies, which will be setting the stage for future highly regrettable consequences.
There is no doubt that women have made many important contributions to science. One may argue this one or that is or isn't a genius, but there is little doubt that science would be poorer without their contribution.
Madame Wu and the backward universe
Marie Curie - Biographical
Ten Historic Female Scientists You Should Know
Pioneering Women in Computing Technology
The 50 Most Important Women in Science
The NSA flap only happened a few months ago; that's not remotely enough time to have a noticeable effect on this stuff.
Which is nicely implied in my post (ref: crystal balls).
To that you can add the movement of a lot of semiconductor fabrication to offshore locations (such as Taiwan).
Since I think we know that few scientists are billionaires, and yet scientific fraud is documented to exist, you just might be distorting the picture. (I like the bit about, "might as well add creationism while we are into denialism." It really added to your argument. You should have suggested a more sophisticated cocktail for sipping on a "billion dollar yacht" though.) Thank goodness that everyone associated with climate science is clean, eh?
False positives: fraud and misconduct are threatening scientific research
The psychologist, who admitted "massaging" the data in some of his papers, resigned from his position in June after being investigated by his university, which had been tipped off by Uri Simonsohn from the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. Simonsohn carried out an independent analysis of the data and was suspicious of how perfect many of Smeesters' results seemed when, statistically speaking, there should have been more variation in his measurements.
The case, which led to two scientific papers being retracted, came on the heels of an even bigger fraud, uncovered last year, perpetrated by the Dutch psychologist Diederik Stapel. He was found to have fabricated data for years and published it in at least 30 peer-reviewed papers, including a report in the journal Science about how untidy environments may encourage discrimination.
The cases have sent shockwaves through a discipline that was already facing serious questions about plagiarism.
Spring (and Scientific Fraud) Is Busting Out All Over
Verbeke and Tijdink cast a wide net, with support they received from the Pascal Decroos Fund for Investigative Journalism. They contacted researchers from the medical science faculties of every university in Flanders, sending out more than 2,500 questionnaires and receiving 315 fully completed anonymous responses in return.
The answers startled. Four of the researchers who responded, or 1.3 percent, acknowledged that they had fabricated data at least once during the past three years, misdeeds that may still be unpunished. What’s more, 23, or 7.3 percent, of those who sent back questionnaires had engaged in the quaint term “massaging”—in which data or results were removed to make their work true up with original hypotheses. The roughly 8 percent of fraudulent practices found at the universities in Flanders compared with an average of 2 percent of smelly stuff going on that turned up in a 2009 meta-analysis in PLoS ONE of studies from around the world. .....
Respondents said the publish or die imperative was one of the main reasons for the infractions. The survey found that two thirds of the professors polled ran into excessive pressure to get their work into journals and nearly 70 percent of all of those surveyed had added the name of one author who had not participated in a study.
Study: Scientific research fraud on the rise
That is a nice flight of fancy, but nonresponsive to my question.
Remember, get ALL your science data from politicians. They'd never ever lie. Nor would people who have a monetary interest in disproving something
Lets try flipping that and see how it works.
Remember, many scientists get their funding from politicians. They'd never stretch the truth, nor pervert science according to ideology. Nor would they pursue research out of a monetary interest or exaggerate its importance to keep the money flowing. And if disproving the claim that resulted in receiving most of their funding meant that the funding would then be lost, well then ....
The actual heart of the matter is that you and many other people think that by calling me or judges names you will change what is, what is constitutional, what is lawful. It won't happen. A president of the abolitionist party (the Republicans) named Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves in the Southern states by decree during the Civil War. It took a constitutional amendment to abolish slavery in the United States legally.
The next correct statement you make about the jurisprudence of the 4th Amendment may not be the first one, but it will be a refreshing change.
Just teach them appropriately: Evolution gets taught in Science, creationism gets taught in Religious Studies with all the other myths & legends.
I assume you are OK with pointing out the unanswered questions in evolution, as well as areas that might be problematic?
A ton of Conservatives have completely failed to accept the scientific worldview ...
A ton of liberals have completely failed to accept the scientific worldview.
The Republican Party Isn't Really the Anti-Science Party
There is plenty more to find if you bother to look.
always Republicans ... who do this shit!
It's important to note that right now in US politics one party is completely and totally against the concept of scientific inquiry putting Newspeak-like religious rhetoric above all else.
There is no 'but the Democrats...' counterpoint on this...it's ALWAYS REPUBLICANS. It doesn't make the Democrat/Liberals better in some long-term philosophical way at all, but it forces a choice in a real-world context that alot of /.'ers can't mentally make.
(SNIP)
Good grief you are full of it. If you don't see problems with the science on both sides of the isle you aren't looking. Maybe you're simply blinded by partisanship.
The Republican Party Isn't Really the Anti-Science Party
Stewart Brand, the 1960s environmental activist, has bemoaned opposition to genetically modified organisms as “irrational, anti-scientific, and very harmful.” The anti-GMO movement, largely a product of the political left, has reached levels of delusion, paranoia and anti-intellectualism worthy of Michele Bachmann and young-earth creationists.
Matters are more nuanced—or just plain favorable to Republicans—when it comes to the business of actually governing. Comparing the two parties' proposed funding levels for the major scientific research agencies doesn't lend itself well to narratives about who's “pro” or “anti” science. For every cheap shot a Republican member of Congress like Senator Tom Coburn has taken at National Science Foundation grants (see the unfairly maligned robo-squirrel), there are areas where Obama has undercut American leadership in basic science by favoring loan guarantees and industrial subsidies to the alternative-energy industry at the expense of science elsewhere.
We've seen this in his proposed cuts to high-energy physics, nuclear physics, planetary science, and other areas of research. Even in the much-maligned “Tea Party-dominated” House of Representatives, the GOP budget proposals provided more funding for the NSF than those of the Senate Democrats for the current 2013 fiscal year.
Are Democrats Really the "Pro-Science" Party?
A narrative has developed over the past several years that the Republican Party is anti-science. Recently, thanks to the ignorant remarks about rape made by Rep. Todd Akin, the Democrats have seized the opportunity to remind us that they are the true champions of science in America. But is it really true?
No. As we thoroughly detail in our new book, "Science Left Behind," Democrats are willing to throw science under the bus for any number of pet ideological causes – including anything from genetic modification to vaccines.
Are Republicans or Democrats More Anti-Science?
Eric Cantor and Lamar Smith: Rethinking science funding
Anti-Science Republicans Versus Anti-Science Democrats: The Comparison
Yeah, I know. I sometimes post things I know are untrue just to watch them get modded up as informative or insightful.
I often do the opposite, post things that are true just to watch them get modded down as troll or flamebait.
The problem works in both directions. To each his own.
Especially if what you believe is gleaned from your nightly newscast [ceasespin.org]. Far more people believe the TV than the Internet. The far-right has figured this out and is capitalizing on it at the polls.
If you bother to examine the table, "Education, Age, Knowledge" from this Pew Research Center poll, you will see some data you probably won't expect.
Column 1: High knowledge %
Column 2: readers / viewers / listeners
43% Hardball
36% Rush Limbaugh
34% BBC
34% Colbert Report
33% News Hour
30% Daily Show
25% MSNBC
21% Community newspaper
21% NBC News
19% CNN
19% Fox News
19% ABC News
17% CNBC
17% Local TV news
17% Network news
10% CBS News
Don't kid yourself, belief in God doesn't make you stupid, not even close.
Absolutely. Having been born and raised in the "Bible Belt" I can attest first-hand to how very proud some people are of their ignorance and lack of education.
That cuts more than one way. If you bother to pay much attention you find terribly ignorant statements about all manner of things posted here, including things about Christianity and the Bible Belt. Did you notice? Many of those posters seem quite proud as well.