Once can be an advocate for Wikileaks, and other work done by Assange, but not be a defender of his behavior regarding the alleged treatment of Swedish women and his flight from justice.
Ecuador, which nobody really confuses with countries that truly value personal liberty and civil rights, almost certainly gave Assange refuge since he is a fellow leftist that damaged the United States.
Members of the US Congress and TV commentators don't set government policy, nor can they approve assassination, or other adverse actions.
Assange isn't wanted for "mere questioning," it is a formality before changes can be filed and a trial started. You keep ignoring the difference in the Swedish legal system from others which you are more accustomed to. You complain that I see the world in black and white, but dismiss facts inconvenient for Assange's position.
It seems apparent that Assange has colluded with people with people engaged in espionage against the United States that resulted in useful intelligence information getting into the hands of the Taliban and al Qaida, not to mention foreign nations that are adversaries of the United States. This has had repercussions.
Many of the oddities around this are due to the fact that Assange has engaged in unusual behavior, and performed unusual deeds. He has done unusually notable things. Some of the notable things he has done are not creditable.
Wikileaks is arguably a meaningful accomplishment, and special. Assanges behavior regarding his behavior in Sweden, much less so.
It should also be noted that Britain has its own extradition treaty with the US. If this was all just a ruse, it would be far more straight forward for the US to ask Sweden to drop the extradition request and request extradition to the US. That isn't happening. The allegations against Assange in Sweden would seem to be almost certainly genuine. The question is will he face trial and be convicted. It seems unlikely that he will be able to remain there forever indefinitely, and would seem to have little chance of another escape.
There are indeed special and unusual aspects of this case. But do you hold that they justify denying justice to two Swedish women that allege that they were sexually assaulted? Is Assange that special so as to justify that?
They've already spent a ridiculous amount of time and money getting him extradited in the first place which is hardly typical.
Its typical for to seek extradition for fugitives from justice. When he violated his parole and fled lawful extradition, what did Assange become?
More likely the issue is that if they charged him they would be obligated to make him answer for those Swedish charges before extradition to the US.
Britain has its own extradition treaty with the US. If this was all just a ruse, it would be far more straight forward for the US to ask Sweden to drop the extradition request and request extradition to the US. That isn't happening. The allegations against Assange in Sweden would seem to be almost certainly genuine. The question is will he face trial and be convicted. It seems unlikely that he will be able to remain there forever indefinitely, and would seem to have little chance of another escape.
Advocates for Assange understand everything except why he should be treated the same as the vast majority of people that go before the Swedish legal system.
If they are going to try him they have to charge him. To charge him they have to question him. If they go to the UK to question him, which will cost and waste money, time, and paperwork, and then charge him, he will still be in the embassy, only on charges not questioning. Nothing really changes. Assange will still be in the embassy. Assange's advocates will continue to proclaim his innocence and that bringing him before the Swedish legal system is all a big plot. What the Swedish government is doing, waiting him out, makes perfect sense. The British government is responsible for delivering Assange to Sweden as he was in their custody. No need for Swedish prosecutors to take time away from other work to travel to meet with his excellency, Julian of Wikileaks.
You can also understand why the British government has warned given a certain issue in a former British Crown colony.
Then you fundamentally misunderstand al Qaida's goals.
Terrorism from Al Qaida and company will probably be around for at least another 10-40 years. There isn't much getting around that, they have a vote. They are pursuing their own goals, and there isn't really anything we can do to make them happy other than convert to Islam, implement Sharia law in place of the Constitution, and join them. Their goal is world conquest for the glory of Islam, and reestablishing the Caliphate dissolved in 1923, even if it takes 1,000 years. There isn't much room to give there. Let us hope those extremists come to understand the problems in their counties, their civilization, in a more insightful manner. They are on a jihad to chop off more heads and hands when they would do far more for their societies by engaging in a jihad for better sewers and schools.
You're a coward who believes that safety is more important than freedom, but it's not. Why don't you and your ilk go ruin another country?
I assume you misspelled elk as ilk since you're having a cow over nonsense.
As if getting molested at airports
Silly hyperbole. A pat down, when they occur, is not "getting molested." It's been happening on and off since the '60s or '70s and the rash of hijackings by the Palestinians and those desiring unplanned Cuban vacations.
shoved off to free speech zones are
That's been going on since the Clinton administration, at least. I don't think its a good idea, but the courts haven't seen fit to ban it. Also note that sort of thing is used at either particular events, or far more widely on politically correct campuses as part of the PC speech code. You might think about donating to Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.
You can face at least questions over "throw away" statements.
As to Assange, you misunderstand the system in Sweden. He will have to answer those questions before charges can be filed. The Swedish legal system has a different process than the English system. There are a number of EU countries with processes that differ from the English system.
And you are free to have your own opinion about it. But you should be aware that some legal systems treat those as threats for which you can face at least questions if not prosecution.
Sorry, my mistake, I thought people on Slashdot would all be technically literate enough to use the internet and Google it. The UK is signatory to and has implemented all of these, in fact, it helped write most of them.
Why would this topic be different than any other? Many people on Slashdot have been denying for more than a decade that terrorists exist, conduct attacks, get arrested, and have their own independent motives for doing so apart from anything done by anyone in the West. The whole Assange affair is no different. People regularly misstate ordinary and readily obtainable facts of the matter because they don't like the current and most likely outcome.
Sweden's justice system, as do some others in the EU, does things differently than the English system. He has to answer questions from the prosecutor since that is the next step before charging.
No it's worse than that, he posted some text on the internet!
When it comes to the police presence it is because he is wanted on allegations of sexual assault, not for posting text on the internet. But suppose he had posted threats to kill government ministers on the internet, would you still dismiss it as "text on the internet?"
More like every language can be used unsafely, and some have built-in weakness in addition. The C language and many of its derivatives have a number of issues that are well known and documented. In that regard both Unix and C are like chainsaws - in skilled hands they make short work of difficult problems that might be far harder or impossible with other tools, but let your attention wander for a moment and you are missing a leg.
It's only called a bug...... because someone noticed it.
I doubt that Oracle would have tried to slip this under the radar. I would expect them to make an announcement that it was coming and ignore the complaints.
The trolling gets ever sadder, especially the "MyCleanPC" posts you're making now:
That's when it happened: I found MyCleanPC! I installed MyCleanPC right on the client's PC, ran a scan, and it immediately got rid of all the viruses without a single problem. MyCleanPC accomplished in record time what I was unable to accomplish after a full week. Wow! Such a thing!
I reject the assertion that the Constitution is being given up even if there are some difficult corner cases.
Down enough planes and much of the public will abandon air travel, with all of the consequences that will entail, including massive price increases for remaining travel which will cause more people to leave it.
Going through the article it looks like a nice set of improvements. I expect that subversion users will be pleased with both the current improvements, and what will be built upon them in the future.
One of the area where robustness has been improved is in the storage of metadata. SVN now tracks the moves of working copy items. Stein noted that the harder part is getting the rest of the system to recognize the moves, and that work is ongoing. He explained that from a historical perspective, SVN didn't "move" items per se. Instead, the item was copied to its new location, and deleted from the old.
"This is problematic (for example) because if an edit comes in from the server for that deleted item, then we don't know what to do with it," Stein said. "For a moved item, then we know the edit should probably be applied to wherever the thing was moved."
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Need I remind you: Kids! Don't try this at home!
Once can be an advocate for Wikileaks, and other work done by Assange, but not be a defender of his behavior regarding the alleged treatment of Swedish women and his flight from justice.
Ecuador, which nobody really confuses with countries that truly value personal liberty and civil rights, almost certainly gave Assange refuge since he is a fellow leftist that damaged the United States.
Members of the US Congress and TV commentators don't set government policy, nor can they approve assassination, or other adverse actions.
Assange isn't wanted for "mere questioning," it is a formality before changes can be filed and a trial started. You keep ignoring the difference in the Swedish legal system from others which you are more accustomed to. You complain that I see the world in black and white, but dismiss facts inconvenient for Assange's position.
It seems apparent that Assange has colluded with people with people engaged in espionage against the United States that resulted in useful intelligence information getting into the hands of the Taliban and al Qaida, not to mention foreign nations that are adversaries of the United States. This has had repercussions.
Many of the oddities around this are due to the fact that Assange has engaged in unusual behavior, and performed unusual deeds. He has done unusually notable things. Some of the notable things he has done are not creditable.
Wikileaks is arguably a meaningful accomplishment, and special. Assanges behavior regarding his behavior in Sweden, much less so.
It should also be noted that Britain has its own extradition treaty with the US. If this was all just a ruse, it would be far more straight forward for the US to ask Sweden to drop the extradition request and request extradition to the US. That isn't happening. The allegations against Assange in Sweden would seem to be almost certainly genuine. The question is will he face trial and be convicted. It seems unlikely that he will be able to remain there forever indefinitely, and would seem to have little chance of another escape.
There are indeed special and unusual aspects of this case. But do you hold that they justify denying justice to two Swedish women that allege that they were sexually assaulted? Is Assange that special so as to justify that?
After all, Hans Reiser did go to jail, didn't he? Hans Reiser must pay kids $60 million
They've already spent a ridiculous amount of time and money getting him extradited in the first place which is hardly typical.
Its typical for to seek extradition for fugitives from justice. When he violated his parole and fled lawful extradition, what did Assange become?
More likely the issue is that if they charged him they would be obligated to make him answer for those Swedish charges before extradition to the US.
Britain has its own extradition treaty with the US. If this was all just a ruse, it would be far more straight forward for the US to ask Sweden to drop the extradition request and request extradition to the US. That isn't happening. The allegations against Assange in Sweden would seem to be almost certainly genuine. The question is will he face trial and be convicted. It seems unlikely that he will be able to remain there forever indefinitely, and would seem to have little chance of another escape.
I think I answered much of this I the other branch of this subthread.
Advocates for Assange understand everything except why he should be treated the same as the vast majority of people that go before the Swedish legal system.
If they are going to try him they have to charge him. To charge him they have to question him. If they go to the UK to question him, which will cost and waste money, time, and paperwork, and then charge him, he will still be in the embassy, only on charges not questioning. Nothing really changes. Assange will still be in the embassy. Assange's advocates will continue to proclaim his innocence and that bringing him before the Swedish legal system is all a big plot. What the Swedish government is doing, waiting him out, makes perfect sense. The British government is responsible for delivering Assange to Sweden as he was in their custody. No need for Swedish prosecutors to take time away from other work to travel to meet with his excellency, Julian of Wikileaks.
You can also understand why the British government has warned given a certain issue in a former British Crown colony.
Britain to airlines: Don't let Edward Snowden fly to U.K.
Hmm, Britain, sex, and Sweden.... sounds familiar.
Then you fundamentally misunderstand al Qaida's goals.
Terrorism from Al Qaida and company will probably be around for at least another 10-40 years. There isn't much getting around that, they have a vote. They are pursuing their own goals, and there isn't really anything we can do to make them happy other than convert to Islam, implement Sharia law in place of the Constitution, and join them. Their goal is world conquest for the glory of Islam, and reestablishing the Caliphate dissolved in 1923, even if it takes 1,000 years. There isn't much room to give there. Let us hope those extremists come to understand the problems in their counties, their civilization, in a more insightful manner. They are on a jihad to chop off more heads and hands when they would do far more for their societies by engaging in a jihad for better sewers and schools.
You're a coward who believes that safety is more important than freedom, but it's not. Why don't you and your ilk go ruin another country?
I assume you misspelled elk as ilk since you're having a cow over nonsense.
As if getting molested at airports
Silly hyperbole. A pat down, when they occur, is not "getting molested." It's been happening on and off since the '60s or '70s and the rash of hijackings by the Palestinians and those desiring unplanned Cuban vacations.
shoved off to free speech zones are
That's been going on since the Clinton administration, at least. I don't think its a good idea, but the courts haven't seen fit to ban it. Also note that sort of thing is used at either particular events, or far more widely on politically correct campuses as part of the PC speech code. You might think about donating to Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.
I'll repost my answer from the other post in the thread:
Do you think there might be a big hint in that? (Hint hint - he is going to be tried, for which he will need to be present.)
You can face at least questions over "throw away" statements.
As to Assange, you misunderstand the system in Sweden. He will have to answer those questions before charges can be filed. The Swedish legal system has a different process than the English system. There are a number of EU countries with processes that differ from the English system.
And you are free to have your own opinion about it. But you should be aware that some legal systems treat those as threats for which you can face at least questions if not prosecution.
Do you think there might be a big hint in that? (Hint hint - he is going to be tried, for which he will need to be present.)
Sorry, my mistake, I thought people on Slashdot would all be technically literate enough to use the internet and Google it. The UK is signatory to and has implemented all of these, in fact, it helped write most of them.
Why would this topic be different than any other? Many people on Slashdot have been denying for more than a decade that terrorists exist, conduct attacks, get arrested, and have their own independent motives for doing so apart from anything done by anyone in the West. The whole Assange affair is no different. People regularly misstate ordinary and readily obtainable facts of the matter because they don't like the current and most likely outcome.
I think Assange would be the last person on earth they'd trust with state secrets.
What do you mean? I have little doubt that Ecuador would trust him with American state secrets, maybe even some American secrets that Venezuela found.
It's poor form only if it's true.
Why can't they just appoint Assange a diplomat, travel to the host country, then strip him of diplomatic status?
Because diplomatic credentials for a person have to be accepted by the country receiving them. They could reject that for Assange.
What an appalling post to have positive moderation.
Sweden's justice system, as do some others in the EU, does things differently than the English system. He has to answer questions from the prosecutor since that is the next step before charging.
No it's worse than that, he posted some text on the internet!
When it comes to the police presence it is because he is wanted on allegations of sexual assault, not for posting text on the internet. But suppose he had posted threats to kill government ministers on the internet, would you still dismiss it as "text on the internet?"
More like every language can be used unsafely, and some have built-in weakness in addition. The C language and many of its derivatives have a number of issues that are well known and documented. In that regard both Unix and C are like chainsaws - in skilled hands they make short work of difficult problems that might be far harder or impossible with other tools, but let your attention wander for a moment and you are missing a leg.
His original purpose was counterproductive, and now he is going for the gold. Sad, really. But, he needs the sig to look like me again.
It's a troll running wild.
It's only called a bug...... because someone noticed it.
I doubt that Oracle would have tried to slip this under the radar. I would expect them to make an announcement that it was coming and ignore the complaints.
The trolling gets ever sadder, especially the "MyCleanPC" posts you're making now:
That's when it happened: I found MyCleanPC! I installed MyCleanPC right on the client's PC, ran a scan, and it immediately got rid of all the viruses without a single problem. MyCleanPC accomplished in record time what I was unable to accomplish after a full week. Wow! Such a thing!
I reject the assertion that the Constitution is being given up even if there are some difficult corner cases.
Down enough planes and much of the public will abandon air travel, with all of the consequences that will entail, including massive price increases for remaining travel which will cause more people to leave it.
Going through the article it looks like a nice set of improvements. I expect that subversion users will be pleased with both the current improvements, and what will be built upon them in the future.
Among the useful improvements noted:
One of the area where robustness has been improved is in the storage of metadata. SVN now tracks the moves of working copy items. Stein noted that the harder part is getting the rest of the system to recognize the moves, and that work is ongoing. He explained that from a historical perspective, SVN didn't "move" items per se. Instead, the item was copied to its new location, and deleted from the old.
"This is problematic (for example) because if an edit comes in from the server for that deleted item, then we don't know what to do with it," Stein said. "For a moved item, then we know the edit should probably be applied to wherever the thing was moved."