How on earth do you accurately measure OS installations. I only say because I think the Linux/BSD/other non MS/Apple OSs are probably under represented. For example like a few other people, I stamped an ext{x} shaped boot on the ntfs partition on my computers.
Those computers officially run some sort of Windows but there is no Windows on here but I'm sure my PCs are counted as running Windows by Dell/HP et al.
Sadly - for balance - I can't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.
I suspect if you had asked "I am looking into a CMS" etc you would have had loads of answers and once you had sifted through all the usual/. bollocks you might have got some useful stuff out of it.
The fatal error was mentioning your own opinion!
The only advice I can suggest is to try it out and see what happens. In any design/eval exercise you should do your research, pick three and give them some time.
I suggest looking at Joomla as well and spending some time at say http://freshmeat.net./ For a laugh, throw in SharePoint as well for comparison.
Don't discount a Wiki either - something like MediaWiki or whatever may do the job nicely for you. That one at least seems to be quite scalable, apparently.
... and yet another anecdote masquerading as data:
One of my employees (MCSE, VCP etc etc) caused his Win7 laptop to blue screen beyond safe mode repair today. I gave him a USB key with Kubuntu - "Klepto Kangeroo" or whatever the latest is called) on it.
Imagine my^H^Hhis surprise when the audio, WiFi and graphics all worked properly straight off.
He had a hard time believing me that a modern Linux installer is the full thing also and it is not strange to play games or browse the interweb whilst installing an OS.
He's not converted yet but I think the fact that my "rescue disc" looked a bit good and saved his data with a minimum of fuss has changed his impression of Linux.
Hillarious: The original poster asks for advice and you post a "pay to read" link.
I have nothing against a journalist trying to make a living but you were asked for your advice not someone else's (are you the author - can't be arsed to check.)
This is a discussion about phishing, do you see what I am getting at?
I hate terms such as "best practi[c|s]e" and I certainly don't use them. I may tell a client I try to follow good practice. Claiming you know what constitutes "best practice" is a sure sign of imminent failure and arrogant.
Perhaps some sort of user contributed moderation system maybe with meta-mod on top could help there. As we all know it works wonders on/. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if the many chatterers here weren't held in check by moderation. I'm only joking - just browse at >=4 and you get some pretty reasonable stuff here, although the threads get a little torn up!
It might be interesting to see what happens to the output from some of the admins on Wikipedia (WP) if they were meta modded by their readers.
I would quite like to see something like that. WP is a wiki and supposed to be user contributed and yet many, many would be contributors feel disenfranchised by the "deletionists" and hence don't contribute.
Who can really say what is important enough for WP? Who exactly is the judge of importance?
So what exactly are you arguing about? Both you and the post you reply to are wittering on over an insubstantial piece of marketing puff. Why do you castigate a stranger over nothing? This is a discussion site, but there is nothing to discuss apart from the pointlessness of the posting of the original topic, unless you want to push the possible product. If you wish to talk history then fine but this isn't about history, it's a product - that isn't released yet - launch. Incidentally, my first browser was telnet. This is the worst slashvert I personally recall seeing in a long time. Why don't we have a vote for the best one yet?
Yep, but I normally avoid them. Incidentally I was a lurker for a good two years before I signed up. The thing that gets me is why on earth do people bother posting on them and not move on? In the good old days my karma would be in tatters by now given the amount of crap I've posted in my name all over this thing. Being off topic doesn't seem quite so scary as it once was.
I don't mind obvious ads but this shite really gets on my tits. If people swore enough and posted enough garbage on this topic then the search engine listings should look quite amusing.
Anyone got any better ideas on how to stop and kill off the slashverts?
This "article" is just another marketing ploy for some vapourware. Can't you see that? By gum,/. isn't the same these days 8) There are a couple of good jokes in this topic but in the end this is all just an exercise in promotion and we are it's semi willing participants, breathing life into the marketing machine.
IT'S ALL JUST BOLLOCKS - I WANT NEWS ON MY/. NOT THIS SHIT.
Bad juju replying to my own post but this is just a product placement ad. There is no substance whatsoever about what is actually different with this browser. There are no details either in either of the links. Surely money changed hands to put this drivel on/.
The Rockmelt website isn't too interesting. It's a bit presumptuous to assume it will get a/.ing. Perhaps it is suffering from the Marketing Dept assuming people will come back later in the hope of revelation, rather than them saying "ooh nice logo" and then instantly forgetting about them and moving along.
If you want a true offroad vehicle you get a military surplus HMMV,
That would be Gentoo then. It's like a HMMV but with more functionality and a nasty habit of going a bit strange. Personally, I wouldn't run anything else.
>>All of hte other solutions require massive hand holding
Your experience of these is what exactly?
Personally I'd use eDirectory. I have 15 year experience of eDir, AD and OpenLDAP. My experience of eDir is that it is worth the cash compared to the rest.
eDirectory AKA NDS was based on X400 as I recall. I remember using it in 1993, before Netscape was formed - "Netscape stock traded between 1995 and 2003" - Wikipedia
Slashdot Mirror
So why not dig out "unetbootin" and see what the box is capable of without hurting your precious Windows.
You never know, you might even run one of the installers ...
It wont change the pretty graph but it might avoid aerial laptop maneuvers.
How on earth do you accurately measure OS installations. I only say because I think the Linux/BSD/other non MS/Apple OSs are probably under represented. For example like a few other people, I stamped an ext{x} shaped boot on the ntfs partition on my computers.
Those computers officially run some sort of Windows but there is no Windows on here but I'm sure my PCs are counted as running Windows by Dell/HP et al.
Sadly - for balance - I can't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.
I can't remember "emerge" offering me a checkbox to install a toolbar when I installed Java, nor was there a USE flag for it. I'll submit a bug.
I suspect if you had asked "I am looking into a CMS" etc you would have had loads of answers and once you had sifted through all the usual /. bollocks you might have got some useful stuff out of it.
The fatal error was mentioning your own opinion!
The only advice I can suggest is to try it out and see what happens. In any design/eval exercise you should do your research, pick three and give them some time.
I suggest looking at Joomla as well and spending some time at say http://freshmeat.net./ For a laugh, throw in SharePoint as well for comparison.
Don't discount a Wiki either - something like MediaWiki or whatever may do the job nicely for you. That one at least seems to be quite scalable, apparently.
I think you are right - the u is und. However, few people know what SuSE actually stands for, those that do probably speak German.
I suspect the marketeers in Novell prefer "SUSE" and have capitalized the u.
Software und System Entwicklung
Your caustic comment seems to imply that all distos run Linux which is a bit demeaning to *BSD or indeed any OS that is "distributed". 8)
"latest" - pah -I have 2.6.32-rc6 on my laptop courtesy of Gentoo.
... and yet another anecdote masquerading as data:
One of my employees (MCSE, VCP etc etc) caused his Win7 laptop to blue screen beyond safe mode repair today. I gave him a USB key with Kubuntu - "Klepto Kangeroo" or whatever the latest is called) on it.
Imagine my^H^Hhis surprise when the audio, WiFi and graphics all worked properly straight off.
He had a hard time believing me that a modern Linux installer is the full thing also and it is not strange to play games or browse the interweb whilst installing an OS.
He's not converted yet but I think the fact that my "rescue disc" looked a bit good and saved his data with a minimum of fuss has changed his impression of Linux.
Nope, it's working fine and quite quickly. Sadly my Squid mangled its output rather badly ...
Care to post some details? "Apparently " doesn't even count as personal anecdote and don't forget that anecdote is not a synonym for data.
Hillarious: The original poster asks for advice and you post a "pay to read" link.
I have nothing against a journalist trying to make a living but you were asked for your advice not someone else's (are you the author - can't be arsed to check.)
This is a discussion about phishing, do you see what I am getting at?
Why aren't they running a product like Websense?"
I hate terms such as "best practi[c|s]e" and I certainly don't use them. I may tell a client I try to follow good practice. Claiming you know what constitutes "best practice" is a sure sign of imminent failure and arrogant.
Perhaps some sort of user contributed moderation system maybe with meta-mod on top could help there. As we all know it works wonders on /. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if the many chatterers here weren't held in check by moderation. I'm only joking - just browse at >=4 and you get some pretty reasonable stuff here, although the threads get a little torn up!
It might be interesting to see what happens to the output from some of the admins on Wikipedia (WP) if they were meta modded by their readers.
I would quite like to see something like that. WP is a wiki and supposed to be user contributed and yet many, many would be contributors feel disenfranchised by the "deletionists" and hence don't contribute.
Who can really say what is important enough for WP? Who exactly is the judge of importance?
So what exactly are you arguing about? Both you and the post you reply to are wittering on over an insubstantial piece of marketing puff. Why do you castigate a stranger over nothing? This is a discussion site, but there is nothing to discuss apart from the pointlessness of the posting of the original topic, unless you want to push the possible product. If you wish to talk history then fine but this isn't about history, it's a product - that isn't released yet - launch. Incidentally, my first browser was telnet.
This is the worst slashvert I personally recall seeing in a long time. Why don't we have a vote for the best one yet?
Yep, but I normally avoid them. Incidentally I was a lurker for a good two years before I signed up. The thing that gets me is why on earth do people bother posting on them and not move on? In the good old days my karma would be in tatters by now given the amount of crap I've posted in my name all over this thing. Being off topic doesn't seem quite so scary as it once was.
I don't mind obvious ads but this shite really gets on my tits. If people swore enough and posted enough garbage on this topic then the search engine listings should look quite amusing.
Anyone got any better ideas on how to stop and kill off the slashverts?
This "article" is just another marketing ploy for some vapourware. Can't you see that? By gum, /. isn't the same these days 8) There are a couple of good jokes in this topic but in the end this is all just an exercise in promotion and we are it's semi willing participants, breathing life into the marketing machine.
IT'S ALL JUST BOLLOCKS - I WANT NEWS ON MY /. NOT THIS SHIT.
Bad juju replying to my own post but this is just a product placement ad. There is no substance whatsoever about what is actually different with this browser. There are no details either in either of the links. Surely money changed hands to put this drivel on /.
The Rockmelt website isn't too interesting. It's a bit presumptuous to assume it will get a /.ing. Perhaps it is suffering from the Marketing Dept assuming people will come back later in the hope of revelation, rather than them saying "ooh nice logo" and then instantly forgetting about them and moving along.
My Gentoo systems running gentoo-sources report 4096. As SELinux is a bit of a bugger to install I haven't got around to it yet.
Wonder why it is 4096 on Gentoo but Ubuntu and RHEL users are reporting 65536?
If you want a true offroad vehicle you get a military surplus HMMV,
That would be Gentoo then. It's like a HMMV but with more functionality and a nasty habit of going a bit strange. Personally, I wouldn't run anything else.
So why on earth don't you sign your mail. Some really clever people have come up with some pretty good ways of proving your electronic identity.
Alternatively, why not tell your system where your mail comes from and then reject anything that doesn't come from those sources.
Its not that hard to persuade your own mail system what mail is really from you and not a fake.
There's no need to lose functionality, you just have to think around the problem
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>>All of hte other solutions require massive hand holding
Your experience of these is what exactly?
Personally I'd use eDirectory. I have 15 year experience of eDir, AD and OpenLDAP. My experience of eDir is that it is worth the cash compared to the rest.
Please describe your experiences with any other directory to reinforce your expertise.
eDirectory AKA NDS was based on X400 as I recall. I remember using it in 1993, before Netscape was formed - "Netscape stock traded between 1995 and 2003" - Wikipedia
>>4.) Novell eDirectory (personally my least favorite)
Why? Have you actually used it. How does it compare to your other options?