Totally agree with you! I can't believe that the editors didn't catch this amazing amount of misinformation before posting it. This points out the root problem with internet media....lack of editorial input means that fact checking just doesn't happen. Media without facts is a sign of the apocalypse!
You've got to be kidding, right? Why on earth would you want the API in paper form? Especially in four volumes!? Why is a physical book better than searchable online documentation for free, like MSDN!? The truth is exactly the opposite from what you said...suse is lame because they ship four physical books with their product, while Microsoft asks you to go online, saving packaging that for many goes straight in the trash. And about the 'manual' that Microsoft DOES ship with Windows, you might want to check it out for yourself, since there is no book at all with XP SP2 and Vista.
"What is being contested is the cause of global warming. There are two podiums here, one is for arguing the cause is man made, the other is for arguing that it is a naturally recurring event."
Either way, a majority of humans will die, so what is the point of debating the cause of global warming? How about we all concentrate on a solution instead of arguing a theory that we may not be ever able to prove or disprove?
Why is it better that it's a cyclical change? If it's cyclical or not, most humans will die if the climate changes drastically. Are you saying that we should not try to do anything about it and just die like lemmings because its cyclical?
So, substitute Microsoft for Apple in the same list, and ask yourself, do you feel the same way? Obviously the large majority of security researchers and hackers don't, so do you think the public is unfair to Microsoft about vulnerabilities?
I can't believe you are trying to defend State of Fear as science. Sounds like the book is a complete joke on you, then, since the "facts" he tries to put in the book are either too narrow to be applicable or simply disproven by a majority of other scientists. Actually, the data put forth in "An Inconvenient Truth" ARE from actual scientific record and are from core samples that go back thousands of years. The data is incontrivertable, and the only point I will concede to you is that yes, it likely has happened before on earth without any human intervention. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything about it.
Here's a snippet I found on the Holey Wars (at this link):
In the 1950s There was a period of intense competition among manufacturers that was known as the "Holey Wars". Proctor began with an advertising campaign that touted the efficiency of its 15 steam jets. Eventually some manufacturers featured over 100 steam vents. The industry standard has evolved to be about 22 holes spaced evenly around the perimeter of the sole plate.
Incidentally, I found this post using a third search engine other than Google or Wikipedia that is rapidly gaining in accurate results for me. YMMV, and yes, I know this will be considered flamebait for haters. http://www.live.com/
I misspoke, instead of self-signed, I meant enterprise-signed, which allows an enterprise network to use their CA to sign drivers so that only the approved drivers are used on their machines. This signing lets the administrators of a network take an open-source driver and use the enterprise CA to allow installation of that driver. However, it sounds like you (and many others on this thread) are talking about distribution of the drivers to people not trusting the same network. This 'public distribution' scenario either requires some sort of authority to approve the drivers, or assumes we live in harmony where everyone trusts each other to create only clean driver code, eh?
Nope, you got it wrong. You can now self-sign certificates for those drivers in Vista. Are you aware of why signed drivers is important from a malware perspective? It seems to me MS is making a decision to stick with PnP, then locking down the drivers, rather than removing PnP and opening up drivers. Which is a good idea IMHO, as long as you can self-sign certs.
Well, I guess everyone has a hobby, eh? Personally, I would say computers and video games are a hobby, and TV would be a recreation. I've got lots of other hobbies including photography, writing, wine-making, billiards. Some might call me obsessed about some of those, but I'm definitely not obsessed about having the best equipment, but thanks for asking.
I'm quite sure you'll find lots of people on slashdot obsessed with the things you mention, though, and sure, you can be upset with them over it, but then you would just be obsessed with something lame yourself.
Live and let live is my motto, and that includes people that have different obsessive hobbies than me!
Hey, I'm not saying Microsoft software is good, I'm just saying they have a right to sell their OS the exact way they want to (even if it sucks and makes other OSs look like a better option!). As long as they don't require hardware manufacturers to sell it), of course.
Your writings on turbo are exactly what I am saying about the Microsoft issue. That is, you typically WANT a bundled turbo because it functions better, so consumers should not be denied the possibility, especially to directly benefit competitor software manufacturers, as they have in the Microsoft case. Certainly in the US, it should never, never, never be illegal to put your own turbo on your car. Break the warranty absolutely (I can't imagine making Ford responsible for your blown motor after you pushed the PSI "to 11")
Should the simple act of modifying your car by adding a turbo (or a mod-chip, or different tires, or different gas or different woper blades, or diferent headlight bulbs, or different windows tint, or different paint, or different bumper stickers....whatever) be enough of a risk to create a law against it? Of course, such modifications should be subject to reasonable environmental and safety standards, such as in my state where both the state patrol and the department of ecology inspect such work. What kind of facist state makes such limitation on freedom?
Careful of promises by Novell! That product, without any doubt whatsoever, does not support many features that Exchange has, as mentioned in many other threads on the Slashdot article. Including my company's absolute requirement: Cellphone access to the email server, including email, schedule, contacts and tasks.
Calling my friends losers and saying their lives revolve around meaningless shit, eh? Well, I think that much of the thread and the posted article are about consumers of technology such as what I mentioned, so it sounds like you are officially off topic in your hatred of people who use a computer, TV and a video game machine.
You are really just pointing out the differences between the ITPro/Geek market and the consumer market. Consumers WANT everything bundled. They don't want to have to download one program for this and a different program for that. Can you imagine what would happen if you were not allowed to buy a car with a Turbo....if you were required to buy it separately from a list of manufacturers? A car manufacturer should be allowed to include whatever they want in their car (unless they force consumers to buy their car...see below).
I notice that people don't complain that Garage Band is cutting into Reason's profits. Apple is a very forceful bundler, especially when you consider hardware, yet nobody is suing Apple.
I feel that preventing Microsoft from putting whatever they want in the OS is a lighter form of facism. However, Microsoft's early tactics of requiring manufacturers to only provide Windows is totally evil, and Microsoft deserves whatever they have coming to them with that one. That is very wrong, as mentioned above when compared to automobile manufacturers, but it doesn't mean that Microsoft should not be allowed to put whatever features they want in their product.
Forgive me for being clueless here, but what exactly is the 360 problem? I have about 12 friends that own 360s, and it appears to me to be the best consumer device since the iPod. One friend has a media center PC that he connects to with his 360, which absolutely blows the Tivo out of the water, too. What's the problem with the marketability and profitability of such a nice consumer device?
You are sounding like a bitter licensee of software rather than a level-headed IT pro. Personally, I've never had to deal with the licensing issue, so the problems you mention do not exist for me. I think you may be over-exaggerating the "limited settings" that Exchange would be appropriate for. Speaking from experience, there really is no competitor to Exchange in the OSS realm for enterprise-class email handling. For small business, I agree, you might not need those enterprise features, so it probably makes sense to use SendMail, but that doesn't mean that Exchange sucks. But I guess you are really saying that Exchange licesnsing sucks.
Sounds like you know what the featureset of Vista is? Your prediction may come true, but right now I'll bet you are just guessing that it will flop without even knowing what features are in the OS. It could have some killer functionality and we wouldn't know about it until it was in the public builds.
I've been told that Beta 2 (December) even won't have many of the key features. An example of a feature we already know about that is not available in other OSs would be HDTV. In Vista you'll be able to record and play (with timeshifting) live HDTV. There are likely to be many more features like this that are just not available with any other OS.
Ammo? People getting played? Don't you think it's a little dramatic to be seeing things that way? That's the problem wit Mac zealots is that they go around using up "ammo" when arguing which computer is better. Whatever... maybe this is just another sign of aggression in America that you feel the need to tell other people which computer is cooler and scoff at other products. I mean, do you drive around in your Mercedes, laughing at everyone in a measly Volkwagen? That would be rude, just like pushing Macintoshes on people.
Actually, I believe Google's reputation is definitely bordering on the "evil". I have tried many many times to get friends on Gmail and all but one of them said NO, for fear of giving too much information to the internet giant. Its probably already too late to save Google from this rep. They are a for-profit advertising company that has several boatloads of money. That kind of description usually engenders skepticism rather than faith that they will do the right thing.
Why would that be a bad thing for Windows but a good thing for iPods? It seems to me that if there were more integration in the various parts of Windows (such as owning the hardware as well as the software like Apple does) it would be a good thing for both overall quality and performance.
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Totally agree with you! I can't believe that the editors didn't catch this amazing amount of misinformation before posting it. This points out the root problem with internet media....lack of editorial input means that fact checking just doesn't happen. Media without facts is a sign of the apocalypse!
You've got to be kidding, right? Why on earth would you want the API in paper form? Especially in four volumes!? Why is a physical book better than searchable online documentation for free, like MSDN!? The truth is exactly the opposite from what you said...suse is lame because they ship four physical books with their product, while Microsoft asks you to go online, saving packaging that for many goes straight in the trash. And about the 'manual' that Microsoft DOES ship with Windows, you might want to check it out for yourself, since there is no book at all with XP SP2 and Vista.
Ummmmm....trying to be funny? Clone milk? I'm guessing you don't know what cloning is.
Either way, a majority of humans will die, so what is the point of debating the cause of global warming? How about we all concentrate on a solution instead of arguing a theory that we may not be ever able to prove or disprove?
Why is it better that it's a cyclical change? If it's cyclical or not, most humans will die if the climate changes drastically. Are you saying that we should not try to do anything about it and just die like lemmings because its cyclical?
So, substitute Microsoft for Apple in the same list, and ask yourself, do you feel the same way? Obviously the large majority of security researchers and hackers don't, so do you think the public is unfair to Microsoft about vulnerabilities?
I can't believe you are trying to defend State of Fear as science. Sounds like the book is a complete joke on you, then, since the "facts" he tries to put in the book are either too narrow to be applicable or simply disproven by a majority of other scientists. Actually, the data put forth in "An Inconvenient Truth" ARE from actual scientific record and are from core samples that go back thousands of years. The data is incontrivertable, and the only point I will concede to you is that yes, it likely has happened before on earth without any human intervention. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything about it.
In the 1950s There was a period of intense competition among manufacturers that was known as the "Holey Wars". Proctor began with an advertising campaign that touted the efficiency of its 15 steam jets. Eventually some manufacturers featured over 100 steam vents. The industry standard has evolved to be about 22 holes spaced evenly around the perimeter of the sole plate.
Incidentally, I found this post using a third search engine other than Google or Wikipedia that is rapidly gaining in accurate results for me. YMMV, and yes, I know this will be considered flamebait for haters. http://www.live.com/
Have you tried the XP drivers?
Here's a link to a better document on how you can self sign those drivers to avoid this problem of buying a certificate: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?Fa milyID=311f4be8-9983-4ab0-9685-f1bfec1e7d62&Displa yLang=en
Read the paper called: Step by Step Guide to Device Driver Signing and Staging.doc
I misspoke, instead of self-signed, I meant enterprise-signed, which allows an enterprise network to use their CA to sign drivers so that only the approved drivers are used on their machines. This signing lets the administrators of a network take an open-source driver and use the enterprise CA to allow installation of that driver. However, it sounds like you (and many others on this thread) are talking about distribution of the drivers to people not trusting the same network. This 'public distribution' scenario either requires some sort of authority to approve the drivers, or assumes we live in harmony where everyone trusts each other to create only clean driver code, eh?
Don't forget that Apple ate the bad banana a couple of years ago, and who was it that helped them get over it? Microsoft.
Nope, you got it wrong. You can now self-sign certificates for those drivers in Vista. Are you aware of why signed drivers is important from a malware perspective? It seems to me MS is making a decision to stick with PnP, then locking down the drivers, rather than removing PnP and opening up drivers. Which is a good idea IMHO, as long as you can self-sign certs.
Well, I guess everyone has a hobby, eh? Personally, I would say computers and video games are a hobby, and TV would be a recreation. I've got lots of other hobbies including photography, writing, wine-making, billiards. Some might call me obsessed about some of those, but I'm definitely not obsessed about having the best equipment, but thanks for asking.
I'm quite sure you'll find lots of people on slashdot obsessed with the things you mention, though, and sure, you can be upset with them over it, but then you would just be obsessed with something lame yourself.
Live and let live is my motto, and that includes people that have different obsessive hobbies than me!
Hey, I'm not saying Microsoft software is good, I'm just saying they have a right to sell their OS the exact way they want to (even if it sucks and makes other OSs look like a better option!). As long as they don't require hardware manufacturers to sell it), of course.
Your writings on turbo are exactly what I am saying about the Microsoft issue. That is, you typically WANT a bundled turbo because it functions better, so consumers should not be denied the possibility, especially to directly benefit competitor software manufacturers, as they have in the Microsoft case. Certainly in the US, it should never, never, never be illegal to put your own turbo on your car. Break the warranty absolutely (I can't imagine making Ford responsible for your blown motor after you pushed the PSI "to 11")
Should the simple act of modifying your car by adding a turbo (or a mod-chip, or different tires, or different gas or different woper blades, or diferent headlight bulbs, or different windows tint, or different paint, or different bumper stickers....whatever) be enough of a risk to create a law against it? Of course, such modifications should be subject to reasonable environmental and safety standards, such as in my state where both the state patrol and the department of ecology inspect such work. What kind of facist state makes such limitation on freedom?
Careful of promises by Novell! That product, without any doubt whatsoever, does not support many features that Exchange has, as mentioned in many other threads on the Slashdot article. Including my company's absolute requirement: Cellphone access to the email server, including email, schedule, contacts and tasks.
Calling my friends losers and saying their lives revolve around meaningless shit, eh? Well, I think that much of the thread and the posted article are about consumers of technology such as what I mentioned, so it sounds like you are officially off topic in your hatred of people who use a computer, TV and a video game machine.
You are really just pointing out the differences between the ITPro/Geek market and the consumer market. Consumers WANT everything bundled. They don't want to have to download one program for this and a different program for that. Can you imagine what would happen if you were not allowed to buy a car with a Turbo....if you were required to buy it separately from a list of manufacturers? A car manufacturer should be allowed to include whatever they want in their car (unless they force consumers to buy their car...see below).
I notice that people don't complain that Garage Band is cutting into Reason's profits. Apple is a very forceful bundler, especially when you consider hardware, yet nobody is suing Apple.
I feel that preventing Microsoft from putting whatever they want in the OS is a lighter form of facism. However, Microsoft's early tactics of requiring manufacturers to only provide Windows is totally evil, and Microsoft deserves whatever they have coming to them with that one. That is very wrong, as mentioned above when compared to automobile manufacturers, but it doesn't mean that Microsoft should not be allowed to put whatever features they want in their product.
Forgive me for being clueless here, but what exactly is the 360 problem? I have about 12 friends that own 360s, and it appears to me to be the best consumer device since the iPod. One friend has a media center PC that he connects to with his 360, which absolutely blows the Tivo out of the water, too. What's the problem with the marketability and profitability of such a nice consumer device?
You are sounding like a bitter licensee of software rather than a level-headed IT pro. Personally, I've never had to deal with the licensing issue, so the problems you mention do not exist for me. I think you may be over-exaggerating the "limited settings" that Exchange would be appropriate for. Speaking from experience, there really is no competitor to Exchange in the OSS realm for enterprise-class email handling. For small business, I agree, you might not need those enterprise features, so it probably makes sense to use SendMail, but that doesn't mean that Exchange sucks. But I guess you are really saying that Exchange licesnsing sucks.
Sounds like you know what the featureset of Vista is? Your prediction may come true, but right now I'll bet you are just guessing that it will flop without even knowing what features are in the OS. It could have some killer functionality and we wouldn't know about it until it was in the public builds.
I've been told that Beta 2 (December) even won't have many of the key features. An example of a feature we already know about that is not available in other OSs would be HDTV. In Vista you'll be able to record and play (with timeshifting) live HDTV. There are likely to be many more features like this that are just not available with any other OS.
Ammo? People getting played? Don't you think it's a little dramatic to be seeing things that way? That's the problem wit Mac zealots is that they go around using up "ammo" when arguing which computer is better. Whatever... maybe this is just another sign of aggression in America that you feel the need to tell other people which computer is cooler and scoff at other products. I mean, do you drive around in your Mercedes, laughing at everyone in a measly Volkwagen? That would be rude, just like pushing Macintoshes on people.
You're not getting his point. He wants to make the Icons on the desktop automatically closer together whenever they are dropped on the desktop "grid".
Actually, I believe Google's reputation is definitely bordering on the "evil". I have tried many many times to get friends on Gmail and all but one of them said NO, for fear of giving too much information to the internet giant. Its probably already too late to save Google from this rep. They are a for-profit advertising company that has several boatloads of money. That kind of description usually engenders skepticism rather than faith that they will do the right thing.
Why would that be a bad thing for Windows but a good thing for iPods? It seems to me that if there were more integration in the various parts of Windows (such as owning the hardware as well as the software like Apple does) it would be a good thing for both overall quality and performance.