You really want to claim that this is their own doing and not mostly pure luck? For real?
Most of those that "make it big" owe more to random chance and being lucky than any of the "hard work" they put in. Of course it requires you to take an opportunity when it comes, no doubt about this, but saying that people who ain't rich just are lazy bums is one of the worst insults possible when their biggest fault is that they simply never had the lucky opportunity cross their way.
I'm not trying to discount that luck is involved. But there is something to being ready when it comes, or to being in the right place at the right time. And the preparation you do earlier, education or working hard, can get you ready or position you to get the lucky break. If you were not ready you might not be able to take advantage of the lucky breaks that come your way, and if you are not where the lucky break appears, you won't even see it, someone else who is more prepared, or possible called "more lucky" would be able to take the shot that would have been yours if you were there.
I really don't understand how you got the impression you did from the memo, unless you did not actually read it, and just read what other people told you it said. He talk about how to encourage more women to get into programming, not how to keep them out. He talks about the programs to help people with mentoring and other things, but they are only for minorities and women, sorry men not allowed in. Or how if a man is discriminated against, it is just tossed out because men can't be discriminated against. It is based on real scientific findings, not a bunch of assumptions and made up facts.
So to get more diversity in Google, we need them to get rid of an entire class of people. Once everyone looks, acts, and thinks exactly alike, then we will have the best diversity ever!!!
That sham-diversity is even a banner to rally around instead of merit is one of the reasons that this guy wrote what he did. Hire the best, don't hire the paraplegic-trangender-black-lesbian because it makes you look good in your social circles.
Because at the end of the road, the same ones who are promoting that person to be hired for their non-abilities, will also be promoting segregation in order to protect their special little groups whether it be by race/sex/insertspecialthing. As we've seen over the last year and change at universities, and I'm pretty damn sure that we went through this garbage in the 1960's and 1970's. But some people sure seem to be up to bring it back.
Even this person is mis-characterizing the memo. He didn't say don't hire the women and minorities, he said that the men might have needs also. You have a mentoring program, but white men are not allowed in, only women and minorities. He didn't say that the traits that women might have more commonly than men make them worse, he said it makes them prefer other fields of work. He even spoke of ways to make programming better for them by helping it fit to the traits they have.
Right, good point. It is similar to the one about how if women really did get paid so much less than men for the same work, then companies would prioritize hiring them to save money. You don't see male hiring discrimination, so it must not be like they say it is.
It is called "politically correct" after all. And he is anti-politically correct, so it would then be political speech and he is a protected class according to CA law.
The reason for all the fuss is that what he said has real-world negative consequences for other people working at Google. That in itself isn't enough to be a problem, as there are lots of things which are true or at least genuinely open to debate which cause people problems.
But combine that with the fact that his arguments are old and largely dealt with...
The real problem here is that it wasn't done anonymously, or he wasn't able to remain anonymous, it's unclear what exactly happened. Speech can have consequences, especially in a workplace where there are some necessary rules on behaviour.
It's great that people want to debate this stuff, but it would help if everyone read the same article and actually found the same words inside it. You said he claims that the traits that women have make them worse at their job. I did not see that thought anywhere in the memo. I saw him say that those traits might be why less women choose to go into programming, but not that the ones that do go into it are worse at it. He also gave possible ways to make programming more interesting to women who have these traits, not on how to keep them out since they are worse at it.
I have also noticed that the people who argue against what he wrote are actually arguing about something the imagined he wrote. First you put the words into the targets mouth, then you can be justified in crucifying them.
California considers your political beliefs to be a protected class. So if you consider what he believes to be a political belief, and since it is usually called "political correctness", then it seems logical you could call what he is speaking about to be anti-political correctness. So it must be a political belief. And since he was fired for them, then he can sue in California court.
The parent claimed Monsanto was KILLING AMERICAN CITIZENS. I merely wonder where the piles of dead people are. I suspect it is news to the AC that cancer in the U.S. has been declining steadily for a long time.
You do have to be careful about cancer statistics. The way cancer death is counted is for only 5 years. So the way it was described to me was this: If you created a test that could detect cancer 5 years earlier that we currently do, then you would have a 100% survival rate for the cancer. Even though you did not treat the cancer, you just detected it earlier and the die at the exact same point the would have even if you never detected that they had it. So don't trust the cancer statistics, they don't relate to real people and real cancers.
Are you really trying to tell me that Fukushima is not currently leaking radioactive material into the ocean. Or is it that you say that is safe? Because we chalk the deaths up under some other category where the blame is not 100% on the nuclear industry fault, we can handle any number of reactor melt-downs. They are always going to be wonderful for the environment. How many more years until the next one happens, right?
Not being able to move back because there is rubble that needs to be hauled away is very different from not being able to move back because the ground is radioactive. And you say it is safe there, and I believe you. The rain and water has probably washed most of it out to sea along with the leak under the reactor that they tried to stop with an underground ice wall. Never mind the fact that they didn't have a way to give this ice-wall prison a floor. So your land is now safe, but your sea-food is deadly. Nice trade. I don't think the ocean waves have ever poisoned entire fisheries and ecosystems before. But they seem almost the same, and radiation is invisible, so it must be safe, right?
Can you go to Bhopal today and live there? Can you do the same at Chernobyl and Fukushima? I think the other thing that makes the tsunami seem like less of a deal than the radiation is because we created the radiation problem, the waves and tsunamis were there long before we were and are naturally made. We can still spend time on creating a remedy for the tsunamis, but we first had to create the problem with radiation leaks before we are tasked with cleaning it up. And the cleanup for sites like this is on the order of decades? Centuries? I guess one has never been completed, so can we know for sure how long it takes to clean it up?
I think I might notice a plug going from the painting on the wall to the outlet. If you mean to run it on battery, the sci-fi movies don't worry about reality. And a couple of hours might not catch the conversation you want. This Echo thing is already plugged in, so there is nothing suspicious about it sitting there listening to you all day. That would be the benefit of hacking an Echo over doing the same to a chair.
It is actually pretty easy to get a rabbit to die from exhaustion if you can keep chasing after it for just a few minutes. My step dad has done it before. There are Youtube videos of modern marathon hunters in Africa that still hunt using this traditional method.
Yeah, your not cherry picking how great vaccines are. Remember, boosters aren't needed if you actually get the measles or chicken pox. The vaccine only tricks one part of the immune system. And you need aluminum, a known neuro-toxin, to activate the immune system. I think it is wise to only vaccinate for truly dangerous things. And measles doesn't cut it.
First you said it doesn't happen at all. now that you have been proven wrong you still want to try to argue that you were right and that it somehow does not happen. why do the facts not get through to some people.
Plus, your lack of mentioning the two ways the immune system works, and the fact that vaccines only trick one of the ways, also shows that you don't even know what you pretend to know about. Thanks for participating!
Hey Idiot, you are exactly the type of person that should stop spewing your lies to the poor un-informed dummies in the world. The CDC seems to disagree with you. Did you even try to do a search.
Try your own advice. This is the bigoest problem with the pro-vaccers. They trust everything told to them and never do any research. If you knew the facts, you would have to be mentally retarded to say what you did.
And vaccinating his sibling could have killed him sooner. Getting the Measles Vaccine makes you an carrier for the virus that shows no symptoms. It does not prevent you from getting it, just from getting sick from it. So you can still pick up Measles and take it to see Grandma in the nursing home where dozens of old people die from getting something you were immunized for. Great way to protect people there.
And perhaps it is the ultimate irony that it is only because they have worked so spectacularly well that humans, in their seemingly infinite capacity for stupidity, have somehow managed to grow to distrust them, because people in industrialized nations have almost entirely forgotten what it was like to live in a time when these diseases were not only common, but pervasive in the general population. Entire communities were decimated by polio. People have forgotten the death and the panic and the fear of these diseases.
The present situation is the result of a failure to educate. Every single child, as soon as they are able to comprehend, must be taught of the history of these pandemics. Not just a recitation of statistics; people need to be SHOWN IN GRAPHIC DETAIL what these diseases did to humanity throughout history.
Or maybe the people who are always screaming wolf are being recognized for what they are. When I talk to my older relatives who were around before Measles vaccinations it seems like it was something everyone got and nobody died from it. It sounds as bad as Chicken Pox is. But of course today's children are taught to be afraid of Chicken Pox. It causes death and destruction everywhere it goes and vaccination for it is an absolute must. Never mind the fact that parents used to take their kids to the Pox parties to get them infected on purpose.
Tetanus also works after the infection. Why take the risk of a vaccination reaction instead of waiting and getting the shot when you need it. I guess it depends on how often or how likely the child is to get rusty puncture wounds to determine if the preventative is worth it.
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You really want to claim that this is their own doing and not mostly pure luck? For real?
Most of those that "make it big" owe more to random chance and being lucky than any of the "hard work" they put in. Of course it requires you to take an opportunity when it comes, no doubt about this, but saying that people who ain't rich just are lazy bums is one of the worst insults possible when their biggest fault is that they simply never had the lucky opportunity cross their way.
I'm not trying to discount that luck is involved. But there is something to being ready when it comes, or to being in the right place at the right time. And the preparation you do earlier, education or working hard, can get you ready or position you to get the lucky break. If you were not ready you might not be able to take advantage of the lucky breaks that come your way, and if you are not where the lucky break appears, you won't even see it, someone else who is more prepared, or possible called "more lucky" would be able to take the shot that would have been yours if you were there.
But I bet there are less people that find success without working at all. So the inverse is probably not true!
I really don't understand how you got the impression you did from the memo, unless you did not actually read it, and just read what other people told you it said. He talk about how to encourage more women to get into programming, not how to keep them out. He talks about the programs to help people with mentoring and other things, but they are only for minorities and women, sorry men not allowed in. Or how if a man is discriminated against, it is just tossed out because men can't be discriminated against. It is based on real scientific findings, not a bunch of assumptions and made up facts.
So to get more diversity in Google, we need them to get rid of an entire class of people. Once everyone looks, acts, and thinks exactly alike, then we will have the best diversity ever!!!
That sham-diversity is even a banner to rally around instead of merit is one of the reasons that this guy wrote what he did. Hire the best, don't hire the paraplegic-trangender-black-lesbian because it makes you look good in your social circles.
Because at the end of the road, the same ones who are promoting that person to be hired for their non-abilities, will also be promoting segregation in order to protect their special little groups whether it be by race/sex/insertspecialthing. As we've seen over the last year and change at universities, and I'm pretty damn sure that we went through this garbage in the 1960's and 1970's. But some people sure seem to be up to bring it back.
Even this person is mis-characterizing the memo. He didn't say don't hire the women and minorities, he said that the men might have needs also. You have a mentoring program, but white men are not allowed in, only women and minorities. He didn't say that the traits that women might have more commonly than men make them worse, he said it makes them prefer other fields of work. He even spoke of ways to make programming better for them by helping it fit to the traits they have.
Right, good point. It is similar to the one about how if women really did get paid so much less than men for the same work, then companies would prioritize hiring them to save money. You don't see male hiring discrimination, so it must not be like they say it is.
It is called "politically correct" after all. And he is anti-politically correct, so it would then be political speech and he is a protected class according to CA law.
The reason for all the fuss is that what he said has real-world negative consequences for other people working at Google. That in itself isn't enough to be a problem, as there are lots of things which are true or at least genuinely open to debate which cause people problems.
But combine that with the fact that his arguments are old and largely dealt with...
The real problem here is that it wasn't done anonymously, or he wasn't able to remain anonymous, it's unclear what exactly happened. Speech can have consequences, especially in a workplace where there are some necessary rules on behaviour.
It's great that people want to debate this stuff, but it would help if everyone read the same article and actually found the same words inside it. You said he claims that the traits that women have make them worse at their job. I did not see that thought anywhere in the memo. I saw him say that those traits might be why less women choose to go into programming, but not that the ones that do go into it are worse at it. He also gave possible ways to make programming more interesting to women who have these traits, not on how to keep them out since they are worse at it.
I have also noticed that the people who argue against what he wrote are actually arguing about something the imagined he wrote. First you put the words into the targets mouth, then you can be justified in crucifying them.
California considers your political beliefs to be a protected class. So if you consider what he believes to be a political belief, and since it is usually called "political correctness", then it seems logical you could call what he is speaking about to be anti-political correctness. So it must be a political belief. And since he was fired for them, then he can sue in California court.
You did claim that.
No, i really didn't.
The parent claimed Monsanto was KILLING AMERICAN CITIZENS. I merely wonder where the piles of dead people are. I suspect it is news to the AC that cancer in the U.S. has been declining steadily for a long time.
You do have to be careful about cancer statistics. The way cancer death is counted is for only 5 years. So the way it was described to me was this: If you created a test that could detect cancer 5 years earlier that we currently do, then you would have a 100% survival rate for the cancer. Even though you did not treat the cancer, you just detected it earlier and the die at the exact same point the would have even if you never detected that they had it. So don't trust the cancer statistics, they don't relate to real people and real cancers.
Are you really trying to tell me that Fukushima is not currently leaking radioactive material into the ocean. Or is it that you say that is safe? Because we chalk the deaths up under some other category where the blame is not 100% on the nuclear industry fault, we can handle any number of reactor melt-downs. They are always going to be wonderful for the environment. How many more years until the next one happens, right?
Not being able to move back because there is rubble that needs to be hauled away is very different from not being able to move back because the ground is radioactive. And you say it is safe there, and I believe you. The rain and water has probably washed most of it out to sea along with the leak under the reactor that they tried to stop with an underground ice wall. Never mind the fact that they didn't have a way to give this ice-wall prison a floor. So your land is now safe, but your sea-food is deadly. Nice trade. I don't think the ocean waves have ever poisoned entire fisheries and ecosystems before. But they seem almost the same, and radiation is invisible, so it must be safe, right?
Can you go to Bhopal today and live there? Can you do the same at Chernobyl and Fukushima? I think the other thing that makes the tsunami seem like less of a deal than the radiation is because we created the radiation problem, the waves and tsunamis were there long before we were and are naturally made. We can still spend time on creating a remedy for the tsunamis, but we first had to create the problem with radiation leaks before we are tasked with cleaning it up. And the cleanup for sites like this is on the order of decades? Centuries? I guess one has never been completed, so can we know for sure how long it takes to clean it up?
I think I might notice a plug going from the painting on the wall to the outlet. If you mean to run it on battery, the sci-fi movies don't worry about reality. And a couple of hours might not catch the conversation you want. This Echo thing is already plugged in, so there is nothing suspicious about it sitting there listening to you all day. That would be the benefit of hacking an Echo over doing the same to a chair.
And checks too days to clear. What is your point?
It is actually pretty easy to get a rabbit to die from exhaustion if you can keep chasing after it for just a few minutes. My step dad has done it before. There are Youtube videos of modern marathon hunters in Africa that still hunt using this traditional method.
Yeah, your not cherry picking how great vaccines are. Remember, boosters aren't needed if you actually get the measles or chicken pox. The vaccine only tricks one part of the immune system. And you need aluminum, a known neuro-toxin, to activate the immune system. I think it is wise to only vaccinate for truly dangerous things. And measles doesn't cut it.
First you said it doesn't happen at all. now that you have been proven wrong you still want to try to argue that you were right and that it somehow does not happen. why do the facts not get through to some people.
Plus, your lack of mentioning the two ways the immune system works, and the fact that vaccines only trick one of the ways, also shows that you don't even know what you pretend to know about. Thanks for participating!
Hey Idiot, you are exactly the type of person that should stop spewing your lies to the poor un-informed dummies in the world. The CDC seems to disagree with you. Did you even try to do a search.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article
https://www.google.com/search?q=vaccinated+asymptomatic+carrier&rlz=1C1CAFB_enUS710US710&oq=vaccine+sympomless+carri&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.16628j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Try your own advice. This is the bigoest problem with the pro-vaccers. They trust everything told to them and never do any research. If you knew the facts, you would have to be mentally retarded to say what you did.
And vaccinating his sibling could have killed him sooner. Getting the Measles Vaccine makes you an carrier for the virus that shows no symptoms. It does not prevent you from getting it, just from getting sick from it. So you can still pick up Measles and take it to see Grandma in the nursing home where dozens of old people die from getting something you were immunized for. Great way to protect people there.
And perhaps it is the ultimate irony that it is only because they have worked so spectacularly well that humans, in their seemingly infinite capacity for stupidity, have somehow managed to grow to distrust them, because people in industrialized nations have almost entirely forgotten what it was like to live in a time when these diseases were not only common, but pervasive in the general population. Entire communities were decimated by polio. People have forgotten the death and the panic and the fear of these diseases.
The present situation is the result of a failure to educate. Every single child, as soon as they are able to comprehend, must be taught of the history of these pandemics. Not just a recitation of statistics; people need to be SHOWN IN GRAPHIC DETAIL what these diseases did to humanity throughout history.
Or maybe the people who are always screaming wolf are being recognized for what they are. When I talk to my older relatives who were around before Measles vaccinations it seems like it was something everyone got and nobody died from it. It sounds as bad as Chicken Pox is. But of course today's children are taught to be afraid of Chicken Pox. It causes death and destruction everywhere it goes and vaccination for it is an absolute must. Never mind the fact that parents used to take their kids to the Pox parties to get them infected on purpose.
Tetanus also works after the infection. Why take the risk of a vaccination reaction instead of waiting and getting the shot when you need it. I guess it depends on how often or how likely the child is to get rusty puncture wounds to determine if the preventative is worth it.