because frankly i'm tired of the community's lies and bullshit.
That explains why you click on every article related to Linux... lol troll harder. There are other things on the Internet but you specifically seek out Linux. You wouldn't have clicked this article if you didn't want to get all pissed off and fired up at the "lies and bullshit."
Your challenge is a sham because in the end you'll just call everyone liars and use weasel words like "wonky" that could mean anything.
So you're saying that if I grab a disk with any distribution on it from 2007, install it on any computer, and just run the updater then everything will be totally fucked? Is there another step in there? Where does the $300 dollars in bandwidth come in?
Nothing? Am I on ignore now? How about you start with hardware that ships with Linux installed. Or are those machines not valid candidates for your "challenge"? Do you have a blog post somewhere that lists all the rules for your challenge in one place?
LOL!! Now you're telling me Google wrote their kernel from scratch!!!??? LOL. Did you know that Google is upstreaming their changes and as a result, their changes get the same peer review and nudging that the rest of the commits get? They're now rebasing new kernels from Linus's tree for use with Android. They can't use a new kernel without getting outside contributions. It's a two way street, son. "Torvalds futzing" is actually still being included no matter how assertive and loudmouthed you are On the Internet(tm).
Google's not the only one that sends patches for ARM hardware either (in fact ARM architecture support existed before Android). Google didn't provide their own GL stack from scratch. Google didn't "invent" WebKit and it's not a one way street where Google only pulled from WebKit once and never sent patches back.
It's a fact that significant parts of Android are developed outside of Google and it doesn't stop at the Kernel. Google tweaks a few things here and there and puts a development framework on top. It doesn't stand by itself. They provide the development framework and for the rest, they end up riding in the bitch seat upstreaming a good amount of their work like everyone else.
Android would not exist without Linux and Google doesn't live outside of everyone else's development trees.
Just shut up. You're a Windows tech. Stick with that. You sound moronic when you try to tell people how Linux is developed. You're not a developer. You're not even a Linux user. You're an outsider claiming inside knowledge because you read a few forum posts.
You're the one with a vested interest in proving something. You pay the bandwidth. Put YOUR money where your mouth is and do it. Pay the bandwidth... lol what a fucking cop out.
So your challenge comes down to one specific machine of YOUR choosing? It has to be that specific machine? I through your challenge was for ANY machine. LOL keep it coming. Moving goal posts are fun!
I don't know how many times I've updated my computer and not had a driver breakage issue. Yeah I know. I'm a liar or I'm blinded by my RMS god. No one can win your challenge because you'll just dismiss them out of hand as being a FOSSie that is so fanatical that they lie. Is that it? Your challenge is a sham, let it rest in peace already.
And really who are you talking too? Steam, the thing that all us "FOSSies" are excited about, is not FOSS. I think your mis-characterization that you blindly assign to anyone who would use Linux won't work in the context of this article, troll. How can you even call people that are excited about closed source software FOSSies?
Also, you don't have to have the latest and greatest version of a gadget. You don't need to have every feature available either. Quad SLI has never been worth the expense, for example. Buy the products with the features you use, cut the fluff, and have more money for other things.
Speaking of stepping over dollars for pennies, I'd rather go to the store less often. If we have to make everything about bags then reducing the number of bags used could also be accomplished by not having to purchase shit that was designed to break and be replaced within six to eight months. We shouldn't just count the bags themselves but the stuff that we bring home in them.
I've always wondered why the environmental evangelism only cares about cars, solar panels, and plastic shopping bags. Stop taxing my bags and start taxing products that just don't last. We have the data, we know what products last a long time and we know that "modern" versions of them won't last a long time. For god sake we know how to engineer better products.
For example. I have a coffee grinder that I've been using for around 10~12 years. I consider myself lucky to have such a good quality product. A week ago it started making more noise than usual. After years of faithful service it's finally giving out. I know that if I buy a new one--even from the same brand--it will probably last a year at best. When you consider that most of today's products fit in that category of 1/10th the lifespan they should have.... is buying 10 times as much shit really a good idea?
Crappy products should be taxed, if not illegal. Someone should tell Washington that it's not all about cars and shopping bags.
I remember when CFLs were just starting to become well known. They literally did last for years. I got them because I was tired of standing precariously on a chair to change an incandescent light every two months. I didn't buy them for the sake of mother earth. I purchased them because they genuinely were better products. CFLs used to last. Every one of the CFLs I've purchased in the last year has had to be replaced. Is the energy saved still going to offset the environmental cost of manufacturing, distribution, and landfills considering your projections originally assumed a much longer lifespan?
Wake the fuck up America, we need to stop the fraud, waste, and abuse that exists in nearly every market. Nearly everything you have should be lasting longer and we need our government to make that happen. For the sake of the consumer and for the sake of our planet. Get your politically inclined environmental hippies doing something useful (besides legalizing marijuana) and lets get the campaign for better products going.
It's like the word "gay" or "hacker." You rely on context to know what the words really mean. In the case of written text, "GiB" provides that context. I know that "gigabyte" has more than one meaning. It's just not a precise word and I don't rely on it being so. In the case where I read "GiB" i think "gigabyte" if I don't really need that level of precision.
Example: How big is the download? x kilobytes = instant, x megabytes = a few minutes, x gigabytes = get some coffee. It doesn't matter if it says GiB, GB, or gigabyte. I'm still gonna get a cup of coffee because either definition still means I have time to do so.
I haven't seen that happen. My experience is more binary. It either worked for a given video or it didn't there was no half way. Ironically, some older videos about openness and free standards were some of the ones that didn't work. This was some time ago.
I'd like to take a moment to extend my middle finger to any site that uses Flash for non DRM video. DRM is the only reason you should use Flash at all and it's not even a good reason at that. Fuck you Google. Set YouTube Free. You were going to do it at one point then just stopped and have been sitting on your dick ever since.
Anyone clicking a link in a Twitter keep alive e-mail. Recently they've taken a play from Facebook and started spamming anyone they think might be loosing interest in their network. If you're not actively engaged with a certain usage pattern you get mail.
Upstreaming your work can save you time (money) regardless of license. You can maintain your patch set independently indefinitely, but pushing your patch upstream makes it more likely that someone else will do it for you and perhaps do it better than you. Even if your patch is trivial, sometimes a small change can inspire more work.
I once submitted a patch fixing an obscure overflow. It was a simple off-by-one flaw. Someone else scratched their head and decided to check the software for more code defects of similar nature. My simple change kick-started off around 15 more changes making my downstream project more secure and stable. I got more than my money's worth by submitting my work upstream.
It's not about someone else "stealing" your work, it's about doing less work and often getting more work done for free.
My 16 year old daughter took to it like a duck to water
Oh fuck no! HELLL FUCK NO!!!!!
Linux advocates have been using the argument that their their kids and grannies take to a new OS just fine. That argument was NEVER good enough for the Windows fan base. I'll be damned if a fucking Windows fan thinks he can use it on me!!! You leave me no choice but to retort with the same response you gave Linux users all these years:
Face it, Windows 8 is just not ready for the consumer market.
I'm aware of the propaganda and the non-portable code they release for only one platform. They're still not a big player in open source. Maybe if they were, they'd be able to sell a fucking phone. Even if they released the same volume of source code as one of their competitors... what difference does it make if no one uses it?
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It's so much easier to install Windows or MacOS from source.
Given my experience with their other games, I have no faith in their ability to matchmake.
You'll be back.
That explains why you click on every article related to Linux... lol troll harder. There are other things on the Internet but you specifically seek out Linux. You wouldn't have clicked this article if you didn't want to get all pissed off and fired up at the "lies and bullshit."
Your challenge is a sham because in the end you'll just call everyone liars and use weasel words like "wonky" that could mean anything.
So you're saying that if I grab a disk with any distribution on it from 2007, install it on any computer, and just run the updater then everything will be totally fucked? Is there another step in there? Where does the $300 dollars in bandwidth come in?
Nothing? Am I on ignore now? How about you start with hardware that ships with Linux installed. Or are those machines not valid candidates for your "challenge"? Do you have a blog post somewhere that lists all the rules for your challenge in one place?
*countering
Now you've done it. You've pointed out a fact directly counting his ignorance. You'll be ignored now because stating facts is trolling.
LOL!! Now you're telling me Google wrote their kernel from scratch!!!??? LOL. Did you know that Google is upstreaming their changes and as a result, their changes get the same peer review and nudging that the rest of the commits get? They're now rebasing new kernels from Linus's tree for use with Android. They can't use a new kernel without getting outside contributions. It's a two way street, son. "Torvalds futzing" is actually still being included no matter how assertive and loudmouthed you are On the Internet(tm).
Google's not the only one that sends patches for ARM hardware either (in fact ARM architecture support existed before Android). Google didn't provide their own GL stack from scratch. Google didn't "invent" WebKit and it's not a one way street where Google only pulled from WebKit once and never sent patches back.
It's a fact that significant parts of Android are developed outside of Google and it doesn't stop at the Kernel. Google tweaks a few things here and there and puts a development framework on top. It doesn't stand by itself. They provide the development framework and for the rest, they end up riding in the bitch seat upstreaming a good amount of their work like everyone else.
Android would not exist without Linux and Google doesn't live outside of everyone else's development trees.
Just shut up. You're a Windows tech. Stick with that. You sound moronic when you try to tell people how Linux is developed. You're not a developer. You're not even a Linux user. You're an outsider claiming inside knowledge because you read a few forum posts.
You're the one with a vested interest in proving something. You pay the bandwidth. Put YOUR money where your mouth is and do it. Pay the bandwidth... lol what a fucking cop out.
So your challenge comes down to one specific machine of YOUR choosing? It has to be that specific machine? I through your challenge was for ANY machine. LOL keep it coming. Moving goal posts are fun!
I don't know how many times I've updated my computer and not had a driver breakage issue. Yeah I know. I'm a liar or I'm blinded by my RMS god. No one can win your challenge because you'll just dismiss them out of hand as being a FOSSie that is so fanatical that they lie. Is that it? Your challenge is a sham, let it rest in peace already.
And really who are you talking too? Steam, the thing that all us "FOSSies" are excited about, is not FOSS. I think your mis-characterization that you blindly assign to anyone who would use Linux won't work in the context of this article, troll. How can you even call people that are excited about closed source software FOSSies?
You're not even making sense anymore.
No one sees a challenge. They see trolling. You've been ignored for 6 years.
Do you really think you're the only one who ignores trolls?
I was trying to keep it simple for the clueless AC.
Java is a requirement for Android. Java does not require Android or Linux.
Linux is a requirement for Android. Linux does not require Android.
Water is a requirement for Kool-Aid. Kool-Aid is not a requirement for Water.
They use overheating processors running Vista to start their camp fires.
Also, you don't have to have the latest and greatest version of a gadget. You don't need to have every feature available either. Quad SLI has never been worth the expense, for example. Buy the products with the features you use, cut the fluff, and have more money for other things.
Speaking of stepping over dollars for pennies, I'd rather go to the store less often. If we have to make everything about bags then reducing the number of bags used could also be accomplished by not having to purchase shit that was designed to break and be replaced within six to eight months. We shouldn't just count the bags themselves but the stuff that we bring home in them.
I've always wondered why the environmental evangelism only cares about cars, solar panels, and plastic shopping bags. Stop taxing my bags and start taxing products that just don't last. We have the data, we know what products last a long time and we know that "modern" versions of them won't last a long time. For god sake we know how to engineer better products.
For example. I have a coffee grinder that I've been using for around 10~12 years. I consider myself lucky to have such a good quality product. A week ago it started making more noise than usual. After years of faithful service it's finally giving out. I know that if I buy a new one--even from the same brand--it will probably last a year at best. When you consider that most of today's products fit in that category of 1/10th the lifespan they should have.... is buying 10 times as much shit really a good idea?
Crappy products should be taxed, if not illegal. Someone should tell Washington that it's not all about cars and shopping bags.
I remember when CFLs were just starting to become well known. They literally did last for years. I got them because I was tired of standing precariously on a chair to change an incandescent light every two months. I didn't buy them for the sake of mother earth. I purchased them because they genuinely were better products. CFLs used to last. Every one of the CFLs I've purchased in the last year has had to be replaced. Is the energy saved still going to offset the environmental cost of manufacturing, distribution, and landfills considering your projections originally assumed a much longer lifespan?
Wake the fuck up America, we need to stop the fraud, waste, and abuse that exists in nearly every market. Nearly everything you have should be lasting longer and we need our government to make that happen. For the sake of the consumer and for the sake of our planet. Get your politically inclined environmental hippies doing something useful (besides legalizing marijuana) and lets get the campaign for better products going.
It's like the word "gay" or "hacker." You rely on context to know what the words really mean. In the case of written text, "GiB" provides that context. I know that "gigabyte" has more than one meaning. It's just not a precise word and I don't rely on it being so. In the case where I read "GiB" i think "gigabyte" if I don't really need that level of precision.
Example: How big is the download? x kilobytes = instant, x megabytes = a few minutes, x gigabytes = get some coffee. It doesn't matter if it says GiB, GB, or gigabyte. I'm still gonna get a cup of coffee because either definition still means I have time to do so.
I haven't seen that happen. My experience is more binary. It either worked for a given video or it didn't there was no half way. Ironically, some older videos about openness and free standards were some of the ones that didn't work. This was some time ago.
I'd like to take a moment to extend my middle finger to any site that uses Flash for non DRM video. DRM is the only reason you should use Flash at all and it's not even a good reason at that. Fuck you Google. Set YouTube Free. You were going to do it at one point then just stopped and have been sitting on your dick ever since.
Why would they need protection from Linux when they're "Looking At Office For Linux In 2014"?
Hey man, I don't go looking for this this shit. It just keeps popping up in my feeds and I go with it because it's fun.
Anyone clicking a link in a Twitter keep alive e-mail. Recently they've taken a play from Facebook and started spamming anyone they think might be loosing interest in their network. If you're not actively engaged with a certain usage pattern you get mail.
*removes safety mechanism from nail gun*
Stay out of this, plumber!
Upstreaming your work can save you time (money) regardless of license. You can maintain your patch set independently indefinitely, but pushing your patch upstream makes it more likely that someone else will do it for you and perhaps do it better than you. Even if your patch is trivial, sometimes a small change can inspire more work.
I once submitted a patch fixing an obscure overflow. It was a simple off-by-one flaw. Someone else scratched their head and decided to check the software for more code defects of similar nature. My simple change kick-started off around 15 more changes making my downstream project more secure and stable. I got more than my money's worth by submitting my work upstream.
It's not about someone else "stealing" your work, it's about doing less work and often getting more work done for free.
Oh fuck no! HELLL FUCK NO!!!!!
Linux advocates have been using the argument that their their kids and grannies take to a new OS just fine. That argument was NEVER good enough for the Windows fan base. I'll be damned if a fucking Windows fan thinks he can use it on me!!! You leave me no choice but to retort with the same response you gave Linux users all these years:
Face it, Windows 8 is just not ready for the consumer market.
I'm aware of the propaganda and the non-portable code they release for only one platform. They're still not a big player in open source. Maybe if they were, they'd be able to sell a fucking phone. Even if they released the same volume of source code as one of their competitors... what difference does it make if no one uses it?