"But no matter how flexible those rules are, if you have this absolute secrecy thing going on, you stand no chance of defending yourself if you actually haven't done it and someone gets something mixed up somewhere."
We're talking about Comcast, right? Because for a minute I thought you were talking about the No Fly list.
"If the local legislature enacts a statute imposing a fine for unauthorized access to an unsecured network, and you get caught doing it, you can be fined."
It doesn't. The legislation in the UK was intended to outlaw those watching satellite TV with a black market decryption box. It was never framed for wi-fi. The police in the UK are pushing the law into new areas, and it hangs on the word "dishonestly". If you honestly thought it was a free open wi-fi then you're not guilty.
Err, "none" would be more accurate. I don't know of ANY production auto that includes VxWorks in a control unit (you might find it in the infotainment systems, but they aren't exactly proper automotive units).
I don't know what's been done with the SiRF Star III chipset over the II but it's amazing. There's one in my car satnav and it picks up a signal indoors (like no other GPS I've owned ever has).
I use T-mobile in the UK. I pay nothing per month. I have no contract. I pay $0.20/min for the calls I make, $0.10 for the texts I send, nothing for the calls I receive. When I use the net the amount I pay is capped at $2 for the day. I have 3G coverage at home (semi-rural). I do not pay for MP3 ringtones because I download them into the phone from my Macbook. The Bluetooth on my phone has not been disabled by the operator.
"Germany and Austria are both examples of countries that have near-[mandatory] taxes based on what religion you are a member of."
Another way to look at it is that the tax authorities have kindly lent their services and infrastructure to the church (for a fee, naturally) to collect voluntary contributions. There's nothing that says you have to pay a church, but let's face it, if you're a member of a church, and church rules say you pay a fee based on income, then you have to abide by the rules you signed up for. If you don't sign up, you won't get church services, which seems fair to me. The various churches go some way to stopping you leave, but it's no worse than trying to cancel that cellphone service or gym membership.
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I use Fastmail, which uses a number of anti-Spam approaches. I get the same kind of 1:100 ratio. I read mail, don't delete it, and periodically scoop the whole inbox into a folder called Archive and let Spotlight find anything I need in the future (helps if you have a Mac, of course..). Sometimes you need to do a real forensic analysis of some issue and it's surprising how some online order or some discussion email will turn out to have just the thing you need. It's particularly useful when establishing what you were doing on a certain day when you have fraudulent credit card transactions to dispute..
That's not how it works in the UK. A low-ranking police officer can offer a caution, and the suspect simply chooses to accept it. There is no requirement for legal advice, and the police often know the person is innocent (or even that no crime took place) but bully or sweet-talk to get the caution accepted (it boosts their detected-crime statistic which is the prime motivator for budgets, promotions, etc.).
In the UK a confession via accepting a caution is worth about as much as a confession from an inmate at Guantanamo.
Mine is open for several reasons. Samaritanism, but also I find it more convenient for guests' laptops when visiting. Also my Nintendo DS is an unreliable POS with my AP when closed. Maybe I should get a new AP. I don't see why I should be scared into doing it, though.
Well, we all know that WiFi signals give you cancer, right? So you could probably press assault charges against the AP owner. In this post-911 age of insanity it will probably work.
"the local constabulary decided to charge him with a crime that they had evidence of"
Neither. He wasn't charged. He accepted a caution. I bet they didn't have any evidence and that if he'd refused to accept the caution they'd have not charged him due to lack of evidence.
Still got to have some evidence, even to secure a win on the balance of probabilities. It's pretty weak to say "it came from this IP address" equates to "it was more likely than not it was him!" especially when he can prove he runs an open AP, can prove he doesn't have Kazaa on his PC and can show there's no trace of illegal MP3s on his hard drive.
Tip: don't accept a caution in the UK. The police in most cases are just trying to bully in order to get their "detected crime" statistic up (this is the GOSPLAN metric by which the police are being judged in the UK). Chances are if you push back and get assertive they will cave. They are like an insurance company that automatically rejects all claims, then offers 50% settlements, then eventually pays out to persistent people.
If I stand in the street and listen to your music, that's a crime? If I stand in the street and made the assumption that an open WiFi access point can be used freely (like mine is and can be), that's a crime?
The law in question says you have to dishonestly obtain a service that is charged for. It was designed to stop people listening in to satellite broadcasts with hacked decoders. The particular law requires that the service be charged for (i.e. not publicly available) and also that the person obtaining the service knows that his actions are dishonest. This law is misapplied and the only reason you are reading about it is that the police bullied an admission of guilt from the two people before a proper court was able to hear expert testimony.
Right, so you got a priori permission for every web page of every web site you visited today? Or did you just assume that when you sent those HTTP requests that you had permission to get the computer the other end to send you replies?
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"But no matter how flexible those rules are, if you have this absolute secrecy thing going on, you stand no chance of defending yourself if you actually haven't done it and someone gets something mixed up somewhere."
We're talking about Comcast, right? Because for a minute I thought you were talking about the No Fly list.
"If the local legislature enacts a statute imposing a fine for unauthorized access to an unsecured network, and you get caught doing it, you can be fined."
It doesn't. The legislation in the UK was intended to outlaw those watching satellite TV with a black market decryption box. It was never framed for wi-fi. The police in the UK are pushing the law into new areas, and it hangs on the word "dishonestly". If you honestly thought it was a free open wi-fi then you're not guilty.
Err, "none" would be more accurate. I don't know of ANY production auto that includes VxWorks in a control unit (you might find it in the infotainment systems, but they aren't exactly proper automotive units).
I don't know what's been done with the SiRF Star III chipset over the II but it's amazing. There's one in my car satnav and it picks up a signal indoors (like no other GPS I've owned ever has).
I use T-mobile in the UK. I pay nothing per month. I have no contract. I pay $0.20/min for the calls I make, $0.10 for the texts I send, nothing for the calls I receive. When I use the net the amount I pay is capped at $2 for the day. I have 3G coverage at home (semi-rural). I do not pay for MP3 ringtones because I download them into the phone from my Macbook. The Bluetooth on my phone has not been disabled by the operator.
Am I being screwed then?
"Germany and Austria are both examples of countries that have near-[mandatory] taxes based on what religion you are a member of."
Another way to look at it is that the tax authorities have kindly lent their services and infrastructure to the church (for a fee, naturally) to collect voluntary contributions. There's nothing that says you have to pay a church, but let's face it, if you're a member of a church, and church rules say you pay a fee based on income, then you have to abide by the rules you signed up for. If you don't sign up, you won't get church services, which seems fair to me. The various churches go some way to stopping you leave, but it's no worse than trying to cancel that cellphone service or gym membership.
I use Fastmail, which uses a number of anti-Spam approaches. I get the same kind of 1:100 ratio. I read mail, don't delete it, and periodically scoop the whole inbox into a folder called Archive and let Spotlight find anything I need in the future (helps if you have a Mac, of course..). Sometimes you need to do a real forensic analysis of some issue and it's surprising how some online order or some discussion email will turn out to have just the thing you need. It's particularly useful when establishing what you were doing on a certain day when you have fraudulent credit card transactions to dispute..
Nice one. Yes, let that poor bastard with a heart attack not be able to make a 911 call.
In most countries this kind of jamming is illegal. For good reason.
"complete failure to obtain any permits"
What "permit" would be required, precisely?
Did you obtain a permit to post to Slashdot? A permit to visit a web site? When life becomes an endless queue for permits, you're living in tyranny.
"they arent that common either"
Yeah, not for you, script kiddie. Those of us developing embedded software use them every day.
Nah. Anyway, I hate fish. Miserable things, never smile.
"You wouldn't find any microbes on Europe because in our frame of reference they too would be very natural."
I think you'll find there's intelligent life in Europe. More than you'll find in the US, anyway.
That's not how it works in the UK. A low-ranking police officer can offer a caution, and the suspect simply chooses to accept it. There is no requirement for legal advice, and the police often know the person is innocent (or even that no crime took place) but bully or sweet-talk to get the caution accepted (it boosts their detected-crime statistic which is the prime motivator for budgets, promotions, etc.).
In the UK a confession via accepting a caution is worth about as much as a confession from an inmate at Guantanamo.
"The judge dismissed some police evidence as "utter nonsense"."
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And why is this a surprise? The minimum qualifications for the police? There aren't any. http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/recruitment/c
Do you expect people with room temperature IQs to know about how CNP fraud works?
Mine is open for several reasons. Samaritanism, but also I find it more convenient for guests' laptops when visiting. Also my Nintendo DS is an unreliable POS with my AP when closed. Maybe I should get a new AP. I don't see why I should be scared into doing it, though.
Well, we all know that WiFi signals give you cancer, right? So you could probably press assault charges against the AP owner. In this post-911 age of insanity it will probably work.
"the local constabulary decided to charge him with a crime that they had evidence of"
Neither. He wasn't charged. He accepted a caution. I bet they didn't have any evidence and that if he'd refused to accept the caution they'd have not charged him due to lack of evidence.
Still got to have some evidence, even to secure a win on the balance of probabilities. It's pretty weak to say "it came from this IP address" equates to "it was more likely than not it was him!" especially when he can prove he runs an open AP, can prove he doesn't have Kazaa on his PC and can show there's no trace of illegal MP3s on his hard drive.
You've not lived in a terraced street in the UK have you?
http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_artic le/article1668405.ece
£85 fine for using the bathroom at a filling station without buying gas.
Except for the recent cautions.
Tip: don't accept a caution in the UK. The police in most cases are just trying to bully in order to get their "detected crime" statistic up (this is the GOSPLAN metric by which the police are being judged in the UK). Chances are if you push back and get assertive they will cave. They are like an insurance company that automatically rejects all claims, then offers 50% settlements, then eventually pays out to persistent people.
If I stand in the street and listen to your music, that's a crime? If I stand in the street and made the assumption that an open WiFi access point can be used freely (like mine is and can be), that's a crime?
The law in question says you have to dishonestly obtain a service that is charged for. It was designed to stop people listening in to satellite broadcasts with hacked decoders. The particular law requires that the service be charged for (i.e. not publicly available) and also that the person obtaining the service knows that his actions are dishonest. This law is misapplied and the only reason you are reading about it is that the police bullied an admission of guilt from the two people before a proper court was able to hear expert testimony.
When you use the light coming from someone's window, you deprive them of a commodity that they have paid money for. It should be a crime.
"They should also put him in jail, just to show how dangerous for society his actions were."
Oh won't somebody please think of the children!
Right, so you got a priori permission for every web page of every web site you visited today? Or did you just assume that when you sent those HTTP requests that you had permission to get the computer the other end to send you replies?