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But why is yours modded flamebait? You included all of those. This is my third account that has been destroyed by mods. Better get some karma, because I'm running out of email addresses.
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Forgive my confusion of PGP and GPG being cyphers. I got my point across, I believe. IANA Cryptographer. And if OTP's are not practical in the real world, then why did they work so well for the military during the cold war?
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yes, but we already have other ciphers to fall back on. If someone figures out how to compute prime factors, we can use those, and start developing new ones, but that is very unlikely to happen.
And why is my article modded flamebait?!
I realized something while reading the article...
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What is the point of all these different encryption methods? No one has ever broken PGP. No one has ever broken GPG. No one has ever broken a well-protected OTP cipher (and they never will.) Why do they keep churning out new ones when the ones we have work?
Why do you say that? I am good at math, but most of what they shove down my brain at school is useless. I would never want to study the stuff as a profession.
You bring up a lot of good points. (I also read your post you linked to lower down) However, I think that in this situation, "usability" is defined as how easy it is to use for the person who owns or is legally allowed to use the computer.
You're computer isn't very usable if it gets polluted by viruses:)
Seriously though, there is an inconvenience, but that's all. I have to configure my router to let BitTorrent through, but the fact that I have to do this gives me an immense boost to my computer's security, by virtue of the fact that nothing is sent to my comp's ports unless I tell the router to let it through.
Who would be responsible for signing them? Undoubtedly Microsoft's dog Intel, or some consortium puppeteered by Microsoft.
Say buh-bye to Linux. Even if it weren't controlled by MS, there are so many versions of Linux that it would be impossible to certify them all.
Furthermore, if I am an amateur programmer, how can I write programs if the processor refuses to run them. I shouldn't have to go through some giant process just to get my 20-line perl script to run.
In my elementary school, we had music class about once per week. At the beginning of class we had "free time," which was basically play whatever you want on the keyboards. There was a "record" button on the keyboards. At the end, she would let some people who had recorded songs play them back for the class to hear. But when someone pressed the "record" button again, the song that was in the system's memory was deleted to make room for the new one. These are part of the set of "all songs ever recorded," and they are gone forever.
So his quest is impossible. Thank those bloody keyboard manufacturers
What is this guy smoking, wanting to own a copy of every song ever recorded? This clearly cannot be done. What if I record a song on my hard drive, then take it out and smash the hard drive to peices? Oops, this guy fails.
Then you, my friend, are a very lucky man. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the Fedora/Mandrake/Suse "detect hardware automatically and make conf files appropriately" philosophy. This, I think, is why people use Windows. If there is one good thing about Windows, it's that people don't have to tweak.conf files for hours to get something to work. (Although the USB wireless network adapter on the WinXP box in the other room of my house seems to disprove this)
1. Gentoo is hard to install 2. Gentoo is in theory easy to use 2a. Using the easy-to-use features will almost never work 2b. Eventually (after 4 hours) the user will stumble on some obscure.conf file which has a setting wrong, thus fixing his problem. 4. Gentoo is not for the faint of heart
Disclaimer: I use Gentoo too. I love it, but it has very low JustWorks factor.
You are correct. But can you imagine the uproar and legal battles that would ensue should anyone try to reverse-engineer, disassemble, or otherwise try to extract source code from Windows? This is exactly why there are no (or hardly any) viruses on Linux.
That's a good idea, but the problem is that there is no way to prevent people from writing malware. The general reasons people create malware are: 1. For fame 2. For fun 3. For profit 4. They have some sort of grudge 5. To show off
These are all basic human instincts, manifested in a bad way. There is really no way to prevent anyone from having any of these desires.
If I understood the article, they are trying to reverse-engineer worms to find out how they work. Why not just ask the numerous people who were black hats but now work for security firms?
Is anyone else wondering what the point is? I mean they already have low-cost processors. Why use something dumbed-down for the mobile environment when you aren't in the mobile environment?
No, it doesn't. If I tell the cops you are secretly plotting to kill the president, but I show them no evidence, other than a piece of paper that says, "My name is Anonymous Coward and I plan to kill the President", does that give thim probable cause to search your home? No, it doesn't. Please don't call me a moron.
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But why is yours modded flamebait? You included all of those.
This is my third account that has been destroyed by mods. Better get some karma, because I'm running out of email addresses.
Forgive my confusion of PGP and GPG being cyphers. I got my point across, I believe. IANA Cryptographer. And if OTP's are not practical in the real world, then why did they work so well for the military during the cold war?
yes, but we already have other ciphers to fall back on. If someone figures out how to compute prime factors, we can use those, and start developing new ones, but that is very unlikely to happen.
And why is my article modded flamebait?!
What is the point of all these different encryption methods? No one has ever broken PGP. No one has ever broken GPG. No one has ever broken a well-protected OTP cipher (and they never will.) Why do they keep churning out new ones when the ones we have work?
Why do you say that? I am good at math, but most of what they shove down my brain at school is useless. I would never want to study the stuff as a profession.
You bring up a lot of good points. (I also read your post you linked to lower down)
However, I think that in this situation, "usability" is defined as how easy it is to use for the person who owns or is legally allowed to use the computer.
That would only be possible if it were May/June right now.
You're computer isn't very usable if it gets polluted by viruses :)
Seriously though, there is an inconvenience, but that's all. I have to configure my router to let BitTorrent through, but the fact that I have to do this gives me an immense boost to my computer's security, by virtue of the fact that nothing is sent to my comp's ports unless I tell the router to let it through.
Who would be responsible for signing them?
Undoubtedly Microsoft's dog Intel, or some consortium puppeteered by Microsoft.
Say buh-bye to Linux. Even if it weren't controlled by MS, there are so many versions of Linux that it would be impossible to certify them all.
Furthermore, if I am an amateur programmer, how can I write programs if the processor refuses to run them. I shouldn't have to go through some giant process just to get my 20-line perl script to run.
Okay then.
In my elementary school, we had music class about once per week. At the beginning of class we had "free time," which was basically play whatever you want on the keyboards. There was a "record" button on the keyboards. At the end, she would let some people who had recorded songs play them back for the class to hear. But when someone pressed the "record" button again, the song that was in the system's memory was deleted to make room for the new one. These are part of the set of "all songs ever recorded," and they are gone forever.
So his quest is impossible.
Thank those bloody keyboard manufacturers
What is this guy smoking, wanting to own a copy of every song ever recorded? This clearly cannot be done. What if I record a song on my hard drive, then take it out and smash the hard drive to peices? Oops, this guy fails.
Then you, my friend, are a very lucky man. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the Fedora/Mandrake/Suse "detect hardware automatically and make conf files appropriately" philosophy. .conf files for hours to get something to work.
This, I think, is why people use Windows. If there is one good thing about Windows, it's that people don't have to tweak
(Although the USB wireless network adapter on the WinXP box in the other room of my house seems to disprove this)
All the security holes that plague Linux ? Are you kidding me?
A corollary to your theorem:
.conf file which has a setting wrong, thus fixing his problem.
1. Gentoo is hard to install
2. Gentoo is in theory easy to use
2a. Using the easy-to-use features will almost never work
2b. Eventually (after 4 hours) the user will stumble on some obscure
4. Gentoo is not for the faint of heart
Disclaimer: I use Gentoo too. I love it, but it has very low JustWorks factor.
I love your sig!
You are correct. But can you imagine the uproar and legal battles that would ensue should anyone try to reverse-engineer, disassemble, or otherwise try to extract source code from Windows? This is exactly why there are no (or hardly any) viruses on Linux.
That's a good idea, but the problem is that there is no way to prevent people from writing malware. The general reasons people create malware are:
1. For fame
2. For fun
3. For profit
4. They have some sort of grudge
5. To show off
These are all basic human instincts, manifested in a bad way. There is really no way to prevent anyone from having any of these desires.
If I understood the article, they are trying to reverse-engineer worms to find out how they work. Why not just ask the numerous people who were black hats but now work for security firms?
Is anyone else wondering what the point is? I mean they already have low-cost processors. Why use something dumbed-down for the mobile environment when you aren't in the mobile environment?
Yes, you could do that. But that is easier to trace than an e-mail. How does it even pertain to this discussion?
Well, if you are stupid enough to PGP-sign a document, you're screwed.
Even so, how can the courts verify your PGP key really belongs to you?
No, it doesn't.
If I tell the cops you are secretly plotting to kill the president, but I show them no evidence, other than a piece of paper that says, "My name is Anonymous Coward and I plan to kill the President", does that give thim probable cause to search your home? No, it doesn't.
Please don't call me a moron.
Yes, but proving that one email is authentic can't be done. Also, suits do punish people via punitive damages.
If "only patent attorneys populate the quiet hallways" then who thinks up all these ideas? It isn't patent attorneys doing it.
That made even me laugh. If I had mod points, I would mod you funny.