Take a look at the last scene from part one (the one where Frodo is trying to go solo and Sam chases him into the boat). If that's not totally gay I don't know what is.
The whole of the third part is a love story between Frodo and Sam.
Perhaps you submit and subject your will to the democratic process, but I subject the democratic process to my Will and it must submit, being that kind of process, at least in proportion to my efforts.
Are you sure? Does the democratic process insure you that your voice, opinion or demand are heard and attended to? How do you know? I don't believe it does. You may disagree.
It may mean you abide by the "results" of the process but it certainly doesn't mean that I must do so
Abide, yeah that's what I meant. If I vote I feel morally compelled to abide by the results of the election. That is not to say that you must abide by them, only that I would feel like a lier not to. Again, it's ok for anybody to feel otherwise, just expressing my feelings.
I haven't lost faith in the process as much as lost faith in the victim mentality you are projecting.
I did lose faith in the process, but I don't call it a 'victim' mentality. I think it's more victim-like to keep voting hoping time after time that something will change - this time I will make a difference, I'll show those... - than admitting this might not be the most productive path to follow, and find an alternative that might bring results (which path that might be is a whole other topic).
If voting is a lie and a crime against your morals and principles then so must supporting the system in any way.
Right. When I no longer can identify with the 'system', when I see it hurting and destroying innocent people and values I hold dearly, how can I support it?
Living supports the system
What? How? Explain please. It is possible to be living outside the 'system', or at least with a minimum of interaction with it. Depends on how you define the 'system', of course.
If the whole world's a Catch-22 to you , perhaps it's time to get out the only way left.
That's a bit overboard, isn't it? You tell me anyone who isn't in support of oppressive regimes aught to kill himself? Got a little carried away there I'm afraid.
Why is MS releasing the source code of anything under a permissive license make them any less of a cathedral? Said piece of code was probably still written within MS by MS-paid employees, using a top
-down well-organized approach.
And why does that make OSS any less of a bazaar? Eh?
Even if you believe that your vote doesn't matter what do you lose from voting besides time ?
Well, by voting you indicate you submit (and subject) your will to the democratic process, meaning you'll abide by whatever result the democratic process achieves. In case you've lost faith in that said process, or generally in the government you are supposed to be selecting, by voting you lose your dignity and/or moral high-ground by submitting it to a form of government you no longer can trust. Voting means you really think you have a choice, and that one choice is better than the other.
What I mean to say is - if you no longer think you're in a democracy, voting is not just a waste of time, but a lie and a crime against your own morals and principles.
It goes like this:
Let's say there's some point we define as stationary and call point X.
1. The faster you go (or the greater the gravity field you are in) relative to point X, the slower your clock ticks relative to the clock sitting on point X.
2. The factor governing the time dilation described above is Gamma = 1/(1-v2/c2) or something like that - anyway it goes to infinity when v (your speed relative to point X) goes to the speed of light c.
3. That means that if you reach the speed of light (you ordinarily should be massless to achieve that), Gamma = infinity, and time stands still for you (still everything from the point of view of the mythical point X)
4. If you exceed the speed of light, Gamma turns negative - which mean from the point of view of point X, your time flows backwards.
I'd like to pay for an election too, but I can't affort to buy a nation-wide election and I don't know which state election to buy - what do y'all think, buy republican and flip or vice versa?
Stop it man, you're beating off a dead horse.
Where?
Those god damn fruit flies got my free Wii.
Take a look at the last scene from part one (the one where Frodo is trying to go solo and Sam chases him into the boat). If that's not totally gay I don't know what is.
The whole of the third part is a love story between Frodo and Sam.
You know the rest.
A matter to be discussed? I thought that's what LOTR was about!?
Are you sure? Does the democratic process insure you that your voice, opinion or demand are heard and attended to? How do you know? I don't believe it does. You may disagree.
Abide, yeah that's what I meant. If I vote I feel morally compelled to abide by the results of the election. That is not to say that you must abide by them, only that I would feel like a lier not to. Again, it's ok for anybody to feel otherwise, just expressing my feelings.
I did lose faith in the process, but I don't call it a 'victim' mentality. I think it's more victim-like to keep voting hoping time after time that something will change - this time I will make a difference, I'll show those... - than admitting this might not be the most productive path to follow, and find an alternative that might bring results (which path that might be is a whole other topic).
Right. When I no longer can identify with the 'system', when I see it hurting and destroying innocent people and values I hold dearly, how can I support it?
What? How? Explain please. It is possible to be living outside the 'system', or at least with a minimum of interaction with it. Depends on how you define the 'system', of course.
That's a bit overboard, isn't it? You tell me anyone who isn't in support of oppressive regimes aught to kill himself? Got a little carried away there I'm afraid.
Cheers! Why the hell not?
Why is MS releasing the source code of anything under a permissive license make them any less of a cathedral? Said piece of code was probably still written within MS by MS-paid employees, using a top -down well-organized approach.
And why does that make OSS any less of a bazaar? Eh?
Well, by voting you indicate you submit (and subject) your will to the democratic process, meaning you'll abide by whatever result the democratic process achieves. In case you've lost faith in that said process, or generally in the government you are supposed to be selecting, by voting you lose your dignity and/or moral high-ground by submitting it to a form of government you no longer can trust. Voting means you really think you have a choice, and that one choice is better than the other.
What I mean to say is - if you no longer think you're in a democracy, voting is not just a waste of time, but a lie and a crime against your own morals and principles.
It goes like this: Let's say there's some point we define as stationary and call point X. 1. The faster you go (or the greater the gravity field you are in) relative to point X, the slower your clock ticks relative to the clock sitting on point X. 2. The factor governing the time dilation described above is Gamma = 1/(1-v2/c2) or something like that - anyway it goes to infinity when v (your speed relative to point X) goes to the speed of light c. 3. That means that if you reach the speed of light (you ordinarily should be massless to achieve that), Gamma = infinity, and time stands still for you (still everything from the point of view of the mythical point X) 4. If you exceed the speed of light, Gamma turns negative - which mean from the point of view of point X, your time flows backwards.
Mod this up, people - good workable suggestion (if you assume reasonable people controlling the DRM, which is kinda foolish :) ).
I'd like to pay for an election too, but I can't affort to buy a nation-wide election and I don't know which state election to buy - what do y'all think, buy republican and flip or vice versa?