Annexation and appropriation as a result of military conflict is orthogonal to the issue of initial appropriation. That is, nobody has currently claimed the moon. That means we don't need to kill anyone before we pry it from their hands.
Your counterexamples, the Americas, are no exception to the idea of homesteading. The indigenous peoples (or their ancestors) that once ran the show did at one point in time arrive in an unpopulated land. They, through homesteading, appropriated said land. Many centuries later, white man came and killed them.
When the indigenous peoples' ancestors first pouring in across the land bridge where we find the Bering strait today, they didn't feel the need to reimburse everyone "back home" for the new land they were homesteading. When they settled on the American land, they had not "in effect taken that property from everyone else". They had taken that property from nobody else.
Of course, with extraterrestrial land, people have this odd notion that the human race collectively owns the entire universe. Perhaps the result of some unfortunate treaties, this belief is one of the biggest obstacles to commercial development of space. Why should I have any stake of ownership in the moon? I've never been there, I've never done anything to warrant such ownership. Though it would be incredibly profitable to mine the moon for water, why would anyone bother if they couldn't legally sell any of the water they mined for lack of ownership rights?
Homesteading is the principle by which one gains ownership of an unowned natural resources by performing an act of original appropriation. Appropriation could be enacted by putting an unowned resource to active use (as with using it to produce a product), joining it with previously acquired property or by marking it as owned (as with livestock branding).
This is how the Earth's surface, originally not "owned" by anyone, turned into what it is today. If you accept that it worked here (as most people do), then there's no reason to suspect it won't work on the moon or anywhere else.
That being said, Ben Gurion airport handles about 13 million passengers per year. This is the largest of Israel's five international airports.
Hartsfield-Jackson airport in Atlanta handles about 55 million passengers per year. This is the largest of USA's 376 active international airports.
You know, I had a Honda CRX that I used to haul my mountain bike around, or my skis, or even a fucking gigantic floor buffer machine rented from Home Depot.
But my CRX weighed under 2000 lbs and got 35mpg. It was also incredibly fun to drive.
Believe it or not, some people can have many credit cards and not carry a balance on any of them.
If you travel for work and don't have more than two credit cards, you need to pull your head out of missing out on free shit.
A few years ago I got myself a Canon EOS Rebel T2i (550D outside of USA), for free.
Earlier this year I went on a 6 night Caribbean cruise (extended balcony room) with my girlfriend, for free.
I still have enough Marriott points for a week long stay at a resort in Hawaii, for free.
Over a third of these benefits were accrued solely due to my Marriott Rewards VISA from Chase. That's not even getting into the airline rewards stuff.
While I envy the rest of the developed world for having progressed out of the financial stone age, improved banking service is hardly enough to tempt me to expatriate.
First, I just want to point out that your quoting is atrocious. But, getting to the point...
NO. Its laughable that you actually think a Israel commune is communistic. Its not. Its actually a company town owned by the employees.
So it's a group of people that own the means of production collectively. Isn't a company town owned by the employees the very definition of communism?
n antiquity, Somalia was an important... bla... bla... trillion dollar bills he prints.
That's great. Some fascinating background on those two failed states. You focus a lot on political aspects for some reason, ignoring the fact that both Somalia and Zimbabwe have settled on capitalism as their economic system of choice, with or without the presence of a central government. In the case of Somalia, it's a rather pure form of laissez-faire capitalism.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the meaning of the word "easy". I'm an electrical engineer by training, and what you describe does not sound easy in any way.
We don't even know how the stripe on this card works. I'd imagine that the card never "remags the stripe". I'd expect that the stripe here is actually a series of weak electromagnets which are controlled to simulate a strip of magnetized iron. If this is in fact the case, then what you propose is equivalent to reading a standard card's magnetic stripe from a distance of 10-20 feet. If that were an easy task, all skimmers would work this way.
The signature on the card signifies you agree to the terms and conditions of your cardholder agreement. I.e., it's the acceptance of those terms between you and the issuer.
I understand that the issuer needs to ensure that I agree to the terms and conditions of my cardholder agreement. But I too need to ensure that someone who steals my card doesn't have ready access to a template of my signature.
If the issuer wants my signature, they're gonna need to get it in a way that doesn't compromise my own security.
This feature seems to be optional. That is, you can configure the duration of time before the Coin will deactivate itself, even disabling this feature entirely if you're concerned about being financially stranded when your phone dies.
That being said, it's really not hard to find a phone charger these days.
Same. I didn't buy this fancy 101 key keyboard just to bust out the Bic.
But let's say you wanted to send me some money and we shared a mutual hatred of paypal. I suppose you could use your bank's online billpay feature, add me as a payee, and then shoot over some money. But on my end, since I'm not a major corporation with all sorts of electronic banking shit, all I get is a nicely printed check, mailed from your bank.
Same ol' paper check, it's just that you didn't have to bust out the ol' pen to write it.
On the other hand, the CNET article states "On the security side, Coin uses 128-bit and 256-bit encryption on both its server and mobile app, as well as on the card itself."
I don't know where you live, but out here in the boonies of NJ, magstripe readers are commonplace but I have yet to see a single vendor that does NFC payment processing.
Every time I travel abroad, I'm reminded by how outdated the USA's financial shit is.
We use paper checks for everything.
We hand credit cards to waiters/waitresses, who then carry them off to the card skimming room, I mean the cash register, to pay for meals at restaurants.
Chip&pin does not exist.
Just a few months ago, one of my credit cards finally moved to chip&pin. In my social circle, I'm the first to have a chip&pin card. It's fucking 2013.
That being said, this card seems no less secure than any other common credit card in the USA. Which isn't saying much, but still.
Also, it doesn't look like they'll be acting as an intermediary. The actual payment stuff doesn't go through Coin. The device merely stores and provides card details and is compatible with existing magstripe infrastructure.
For me, it's more an issue of how many cards I don't carry on a daily basis.
I have accounts with three different banks. I have four credit cards on top of that. That's already seven cards, a stack over 5mm thick, which fits in my wallet without giving me scoliosis.
I also have various hotel, airline, and car rental rewards program cards (if you travel for work and don't have these, you're seriously missing out). Store loyalty cards. Occasionally even gift cards. This is all shit that I can't be troubled to carry, because my tri-fold would explode.
With this Coin thing, I expect to have them all, right there in my wallet, at 1/7th the size of the card stack I'm currently lugging around.
Can't skim cards [easily] with this. Apparently to "load" a new card, you've gotta snap some pictures of it and swipe it through the [included] card reader. And the card has to be in your name.
I suppose you can create an account in the name of the victim, then snap pictures of their card, then swipe it... But that's not exactly the best skimming solution I've heard of.
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Annexation and appropriation as a result of military conflict is orthogonal to the issue of initial appropriation. That is, nobody has currently claimed the moon. That means we don't need to kill anyone before we pry it from their hands.
Your counterexamples, the Americas, are no exception to the idea of homesteading. The indigenous peoples (or their ancestors) that once ran the show did at one point in time arrive in an unpopulated land. They, through homesteading, appropriated said land. Many centuries later, white man came and killed them.
When the indigenous peoples' ancestors first pouring in across the land bridge where we find the Bering strait today, they didn't feel the need to reimburse everyone "back home" for the new land they were homesteading. When they settled on the American land, they had not "in effect taken that property from everyone else". They had taken that property from nobody else.
Of course, with extraterrestrial land, people have this odd notion that the human race collectively owns the entire universe. Perhaps the result of some unfortunate treaties, this belief is one of the biggest obstacles to commercial development of space. Why should I have any stake of ownership in the moon? I've never been there, I've never done anything to warrant such ownership. Though it would be incredibly profitable to mine the moon for water, why would anyone bother if they couldn't legally sell any of the water they mined for lack of ownership rights?
Homesteading is the principle by which one gains ownership of an unowned natural resources by performing an act of original appropriation. Appropriation could be enacted by putting an unowned resource to active use (as with using it to produce a product), joining it with previously acquired property or by marking it as owned (as with livestock branding).
This is how the Earth's surface, originally not "owned" by anyone, turned into what it is today. If you accept that it worked here (as most people do), then there's no reason to suspect it won't work on the moon or anywhere else.
"Chemist" is the British English equivalent of the American English "Pharmacist" or "Drug store".
That being said, pharmacology is bigger now than ever.
Undernet's #philosophy was my designated trolling playground for countless years. There and #scripture. And slashdot, of course :)
The Israeli approach is great.
That being said, Ben Gurion airport handles about 13 million passengers per year. This is the largest of Israel's five international airports.
Hartsfield-Jackson airport in Atlanta handles about 55 million passengers per year. This is the largest of USA's 376 active international airports.
The Israeli approach would not scale.
You know, I had a Honda CRX that I used to haul my mountain bike around, or my skis, or even a fucking gigantic floor buffer machine rented from Home Depot.
But my CRX weighed under 2000 lbs and got 35mpg. It was also incredibly fun to drive.
Believe it or not, some people can have many credit cards and not carry a balance on any of them.
If you travel for work and don't have more than two credit cards, you need to pull your head out of missing out on free shit.
A few years ago I got myself a Canon EOS Rebel T2i (550D outside of USA), for free.
Earlier this year I went on a 6 night Caribbean cruise (extended balcony room) with my girlfriend, for free.
I still have enough Marriott points for a week long stay at a resort in Hawaii, for free.
Over a third of these benefits were accrued solely due to my Marriott Rewards VISA from Chase. That's not even getting into the airline rewards stuff.
While I envy the rest of the developed world for having progressed out of the financial stone age, improved banking service is hardly enough to tempt me to expatriate.
The police/surveillance state bullshit, though...
NO. Its laughable that you actually think a Israel commune is communistic. Its not. Its actually a company town owned by the employees.
So it's a group of people that own the means of production collectively. Isn't a company town owned by the employees the very definition of communism?
n antiquity, Somalia was an important... bla... bla... trillion dollar bills he prints.
That's great. Some fascinating background on those two failed states. You focus a lot on political aspects for some reason, ignoring the fact that both Somalia and Zimbabwe have settled on capitalism as their economic system of choice, with or without the presence of a central government. In the case of Somalia, it's a rather pure form of laissez-faire capitalism.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the meaning of the word "easy". I'm an electrical engineer by training, and what you describe does not sound easy in any way.
We don't even know how the stripe on this card works. I'd imagine that the card never "remags the stripe". I'd expect that the stripe here is actually a series of weak electromagnets which are controlled to simulate a strip of magnetized iron. If this is in fact the case, then what you propose is equivalent to reading a standard card's magnetic stripe from a distance of 10-20 feet. If that were an easy task, all skimmers would work this way.
The Marriott Rewards VISA from Chase for me. It's possible that other Chase cards are doing chip&pin now also.
The signature on the card signifies you agree to the terms and conditions of your cardholder agreement. I.e., it's the acceptance of those terms between you and the issuer.
I understand that the issuer needs to ensure that I agree to the terms and conditions of my cardholder agreement. But I too need to ensure that someone who steals my card doesn't have ready access to a template of my signature.
If the issuer wants my signature, they're gonna need to get it in a way that doesn't compromise my own security.
This feature seems to be optional. That is, you can configure the duration of time before the Coin will deactivate itself, even disabling this feature entirely if you're concerned about being financially stranded when your phone dies.
That being said, it's really not hard to find a phone charger these days.
To keep them all in active status without having to remember to rotate them in/out of my wallet.
Rewards programs.
United-branded VISA, free checked bags, free priority boarding.
Marriott-branded VISA, free rooms, free Silver status.
etc.
I never understood the reasoning behind that. I have never signed any of the card I've ever had.
If someone happens to gain possession of your card, do you also want to give them a template of your signature so they could practice their forgery?
Good luck getting a chargeback when the charge receipt has your signature on it. Fuck that.
Same. I didn't buy this fancy 101 key keyboard just to bust out the Bic.
But let's say you wanted to send me some money and we shared a mutual hatred of paypal. I suppose you could use your bank's online billpay feature, add me as a payee, and then shoot over some money. But on my end, since I'm not a major corporation with all sorts of electronic banking shit, all I get is a nicely printed check, mailed from your bank.
Same ol' paper check, it's just that you didn't have to bust out the ol' pen to write it.
How about for $50? That's what I paid to pre-order it. (+$5 shipping)
On the other hand, the CNET article states "On the security side, Coin uses 128-bit and 256-bit encryption on both its server and mobile app, as well as on the card itself."
Encryption... on its server... ehhhhh...
Well, that's what chargebacks are for, right?
I don't know where you live, but out here in the boonies of NJ, magstripe readers are commonplace but I have yet to see a single vendor that does NFC payment processing.
That's a very valid point. Hopefully not valid enough for my pre-order to be worthless :(
Every time I travel abroad, I'm reminded by how outdated the USA's financial shit is.
We use paper checks for everything.
We hand credit cards to waiters/waitresses, who then carry them off to the card skimming room, I mean the cash register, to pay for meals at restaurants.
Chip&pin does not exist.
Just a few months ago, one of my credit cards finally moved to chip&pin. In my social circle, I'm the first to have a chip&pin card. It's fucking 2013.
That being said, this card seems no less secure than any other common credit card in the USA. Which isn't saying much, but still.
Also, it doesn't look like they'll be acting as an intermediary. The actual payment stuff doesn't go through Coin. The device merely stores and provides card details and is compatible with existing magstripe infrastructure.
And pre-order is only $50 (+$5 shipping).
For me, it's more an issue of how many cards I don't carry on a daily basis.
I have accounts with three different banks. I have four credit cards on top of that. That's already seven cards, a stack over 5mm thick, which fits in my wallet without giving me scoliosis.
I also have various hotel, airline, and car rental rewards program cards (if you travel for work and don't have these, you're seriously missing out). Store loyalty cards. Occasionally even gift cards. This is all shit that I can't be troubled to carry, because my tri-fold would explode.
With this Coin thing, I expect to have them all, right there in my wallet, at 1/7th the size of the card stack I'm currently lugging around.
Can't skim cards [easily] with this. Apparently to "load" a new card, you've gotta snap some pictures of it and swipe it through the [included] card reader. And the card has to be in your name.
I suppose you can create an account in the name of the victim, then snap pictures of their card, then swipe it... But that's not exactly the best skimming solution I've heard of.