Between learning 'a/some programing language(s) and learning 'to program'.
I can learn a new programming language and get 'up to speed' in a matter of weeks. I took a first programming class 10 years ago and I'm still learning to program.
Europe is the control group. We've had GM foods for about 10 years. We have (about) 300 million people.
Europe doesn't have GM foods.
No health problems.
Europe's insistance that GM foods are unsafe rejects the US experience.
From http://corporate.britannica.com/press/inventions.h tml
Computer:
computer, electronic digital 1939 John V. Atanasoff, Clifford E. Berry US computer, laptop 1983 Radio Shack Corp. US computer, personal 1974 MITS (Micro Instrumentation Telemetry Systems) US integrated circuit 1958 Jack S. Kilby US
All US.
Nuclear Power Nuclear reactor 1942 Enrico Fermi US
US
Air travel: airplane, engine-powered 1903 Wilbur & Orville Wright US
DC-3s and DC-10s connected the world.
Internet 1969 Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) at the Dept. of Defense US
Mobile Phone Telephone, mobile 1946 Bell Laboratories US
This is, remember the Encyclopedia <b>Britannica</B>
Which of the following Early Nazi actions would you compare to Bush:
A) Krystalnacht B) The Enabling Law C) An alliance with Finnland
Immigration ebbs and flows; the basic American success formula - meritocracy, science, democracy, capitalism - is still in place, strong as ever. We continue to attract the world's best and brightest.
I never suggested there was something genetically different about Americans. I think quite the opposite. I think we have a culture that allows people to be all that they can. And Europe doesn't.
I didn't cherry pick; I picked the two largest economies in Europe. I could just have easily picked Spain, Italy, Belgium or Sweden. Sure, some parts of Europe are doing well. They generated the phrase "Anglo-Saxon Economics", which I don't think - at least when Gerd uses it - is a complement.
Without looking up the data, what would you bet the gap, over the last 10 years, in the Europe-wide and US-wide unemployment is?
I'd be willing to bet a bottle of Georgia beer to a bottle of Finnish beer that it's at least 5 points.
I looked up and counted German nobel laurietes. There have been 8 since the end of the war. The US is 3.5 times the size of Germany, and we have *way* more than 28.
n Old Europe was just silly leftist FUD, but oh boy, have the last ten years proven it all accurate.
Are you talking about the 10 years with your economic "powerhouses" (.fr and.de) producing double-digit unemployment, while we have averaged 5%?
Will
I don't discount the contributions of other nations; hell I'm about to leave the US.
But don't tell me the US is going downhill. It's bullshit.
The only thing thing the French and Germans produce more of than us is unemployed people.
NSFNet was the precursor to the internet. JANET was a disaster. US Universities were all on the 'net long in the late 80s.
Computers.
IBM. Sure. And TI Microsoft. Cisco. Intel. AMD. and Apple. What's the largest chip manufacterer in Europe?
Nuclear Power.
Curie discovered URANIUM not how to exploit it for power. And the first nuclear reaction was in Chicago. Maybe you could take credit for Einstein. Do you remember why he left Europe? I forget.
The CD.
Well, there you go. Not in the same leagues as the others, really. It improved on the cassette and phonograph, both American inventions. Something that changes the world I live in, and CDs don't cut it.
Air Travel
Give me a fucking break. We invented the first plane, the first long-distance airplane, and the helicopter. Plus flying by intruments, the jet engine and how to do it on the Cheap (ryanair was the product of someone's vacation and SouthWest Air).
Will
As to the notion that the US is falling behind Europe in Science is silly.
The US subjugates science to belief? Unlike Europe, which rejects the 300 million person, 10 year experiment with GM foods. But ID kooks don't make you go blind. It's OK; you can assuage your post-colonial concience with a check to OxFam. Maybe they'll send you a thank-you note in braille.
I am a scientist. This isn't blindness, but observation. I'm prepared to worry.
When Europe, collectively, has as many top-notch CS schools as can be found within commuting distance of San Francisco Bay, I'll start to worry.
When any country in Europe has as many Nobel Lauriates as can be found at Stanford, I'll start to worry.
When any success in a European undergraduate program ceases to be defined as admission to a US grad program, I'll start to worry.
When Europe starts to produce inventions of consequence (the last one was, I believe, the radio, while the US came out with nuclear power, computers, the internet, magnetic storage, long-distance air travel) I'll start to worry.
When European culture starts to produce inventors, achievers, dreamers and entrepreneurs en masse, I'll start to worry.
In the mean time, good luck with your English lessons and H1-B application.
-Will
One can only assume that soon someone be reforming carjackers by letting them play the GTA.
This is a cheap shop that vividly reveals the author's ignorance.
In the first place, there is an enormous moral difference between carjacking and attempting to kill and capture, for example terrorists in Afganistan.
Moreover, PTSS is a *real* issue. People going to war see unpleasant things, and dealing with that may be difficult. The intention is not to get them to feel bad about what they did, but to adjust to life where getting shot at is not an issue.
They ruled on the Telecom *Act*. Congress can change the act with a majority vote and the signature of the president.
Why wasn't there a Second Amendment ruling this term? Because the NRA is immenently capable of winning at the ballot box. Now ask yourself: In how many years will more people have broadband than guns? Organize, vote, and elect pro-competition politicians. We have the power.
Well, their marketing is total BS, from a science perspective. Cred flash: BS, Math, UGA. From their FAQ:
1. What about the wind at 65,000 feet? Will it affect the Stratellite?
Answer: A 60 mph wind at 65,000 feet has 1/18 the amount of force that at 60
mph wind at sea level has. It is still moving at 60 mph, but there are 1/18 the molecules in motion. Insofar as force is concerned, it could be said that a 60 mph wind at 65,000 feet would have the same force against the Stratellite as a 3 mile per hour wind would have at sea level.
Um, that's not how fluid dynamics work. Think about it: there are a far smaller number of molicules of motor oil, too. But the force is different. You can't just take the number of molicules. I remember something aobut working this type of problem in a complex variables class. I don't know what the equation was, but I strongly doubt the relationship is exactly linear. Moreover, it's colder, which also effects viscosity.
In addition to "How 'bout you plus me subtract our clothes, you divide your legs and we multiply", I can use the less cheesy "Hey baby, I'm a mathamatician"
Oh, yeah.
-kwy
I'd be very upset, similarly, if someone from the U.S. or U.K. was arrested for editing a category re Osama
But that wouldn't happen in the US or UK. We, like the rest of the West, value freedom of expression. Turkey doesn't. So Turkey doesn't belong in the EU.
I'd be very upset, similarly, if someone from the U.S. or U.K. was arrested for editing a category re Osama
But that wouldn't happen in the US or UK. We, like the rest of the West, value freedom of expression. Turkey doesn't. So Turkey doesn't belong in the EU.
Will
Shut the fuck up about why they're not being let in the EU. I always assumed the American line about how it was racism that kept them out. Their values and political system are out of line with the West. The west isn't going to and shouldn't change. It seems clear Turkey won't. And as long as they won't, the won't be welcome in the West. Simple as that.
Will
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Between learning 'a/some programing language(s) and learning 'to program'.
I can learn a new programming language and get 'up to speed' in a matter of weeks. I took a first programming class 10 years ago and I'm still learning to program.
Europe is the control group. We've had GM foods for about 10 years. We have (about) 300 million people. Europe doesn't have GM foods. No health problems. Europe's insistance that GM foods are unsafe rejects the US experience.
Justification for the inventions:
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From http://corporate.britannica.com/press/inventions.
Computer:
computer, electronic digital 1939 John V. Atanasoff, Clifford E. Berry US
computer, laptop 1983 Radio Shack Corp. US
computer, personal 1974 MITS (Micro Instrumentation Telemetry Systems) US
integrated circuit 1958 Jack S. Kilby US
All US.
Nuclear Power
Nuclear reactor 1942 Enrico Fermi US
US
Air travel:
airplane, engine-powered 1903 Wilbur & Orville Wright US
DC-3s and DC-10s connected the world.
Internet 1969 Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) at the Dept. of Defense US
Mobile Phone
Telephone, mobile 1946 Bell Laboratories US
This is, remember the Encyclopedia <b>Britannica</B>
Which of the following Early Nazi actions would you compare to Bush:
A) Krystalnacht
B) The Enabling Law
C) An alliance with Finnland
Immigration ebbs and flows; the basic American success formula - meritocracy, science, democracy, capitalism - is still in place, strong as ever. We continue to attract the world's best and brightest.
I never suggested there was something genetically different about Americans. I think quite the opposite. I think we have a culture that allows people to be all that they can. And Europe doesn't.
I didn't cherry pick; I picked the two largest economies in Europe. I could just have easily picked Spain, Italy, Belgium or Sweden. Sure, some parts of Europe are doing well. They generated the phrase "Anglo-Saxon Economics", which I don't think - at least when Gerd uses it - is a complement.
Without looking up the data, what would you bet the gap, over the last 10 years, in the Europe-wide and US-wide unemployment is?
I'd be willing to bet a bottle of Georgia beer to a bottle of Finnish beer that it's at least 5 points.
I looked up and counted German nobel laurietes. There have been 8 since the end of the war. The US is 3.5 times the size of Germany, and we have *way* more than 28. n Old Europe was just silly leftist FUD, but oh boy, have the last ten years proven it all accurate. Are you talking about the 10 years with your economic "powerhouses" (.fr and .de) producing double-digit unemployment, while we have averaged 5%?
Will
I don't discount the contributions of other nations; hell I'm about to leave the US. But don't tell me the US is going downhill. It's bullshit. The only thing thing the French and Germans produce more of than us is unemployed people.
Dude,
Go get the 2004 Encyclopeadia Brittanica Almanac.
Turn to page 214 (EB's Great Inventions).
Taking the first page, there are 60 inventions listed.
31 are from the US, and this is of *all time*.
Enrico Fermi had the first nuclear reaction. And the US had the first atomic bomb. And the first nuclear submarine. And the first trip to the moon.
Has a European ever been on the moon?
NSFNet was the precursor to the internet. JANET was a disaster. US Universities were all on the 'net long in the late 80s.
Computers.
IBM. Sure. And TI Microsoft. Cisco. Intel. AMD. and Apple. What's the largest chip manufacterer in Europe?
Nuclear Power.
Curie discovered URANIUM not how to exploit it for power. And the first nuclear reaction was in Chicago. Maybe you could take credit for Einstein. Do you remember why he left Europe? I forget.
The CD.
Well, there you go. Not in the same leagues as the others, really. It improved on the cassette and phonograph, both American inventions. Something that changes the world I live in, and CDs don't cut it.
Air Travel
Give me a fucking break. We invented the first plane, the first long-distance airplane, and the helicopter. Plus flying by intruments, the jet engine and how to do it on the Cheap (ryanair was the product of someone's vacation and SouthWest Air). Will
Still not worrying.
The US subjugates science to belief? Unlike Europe, which rejects the 300 million person, 10 year experiment with GM foods. But ID kooks don't make you go blind. It's OK; you can assuage your post-colonial concience with a check to OxFam. Maybe they'll send you a thank-you note in braille.
I am a scientist. This isn't blindness, but observation. I'm prepared to worry.
When Europe, collectively, has as many top-notch CS schools as can be found within commuting distance of San Francisco Bay, I'll start to worry.
When any country in Europe has as many Nobel Lauriates as can be found at Stanford, I'll start to worry.
When any success in a European undergraduate program ceases to be defined as admission to a US grad program, I'll start to worry.
When Europe starts to produce inventions of consequence (the last one was, I believe, the radio, while the US came out with nuclear power, computers, the internet, magnetic storage, long-distance air travel) I'll start to worry.
When European culture starts to produce inventors, achievers, dreamers and entrepreneurs en masse, I'll start to worry.
In the mean time, good luck with your English lessons and H1-B application. -Will
Thank you, sir, for your service and sacrifice.
One can only assume that soon someone be reforming carjackers by letting them play the GTA.
This is a cheap shop that vividly reveals the author's ignorance.
In the first place, there is an enormous moral difference between carjacking and attempting to kill and capture, for example terrorists in Afganistan.
Moreover, PTSS is a *real* issue. People going to war see unpleasant things, and dealing with that may be difficult. The intention is not to get them to feel bad about what they did, but to adjust to life where getting shot at is not an issue.
Scuttlemonkey should be ashamed.
They ruled on the Telecom *Act*. Congress can change the act with a majority vote and the signature of the president. Why wasn't there a Second Amendment ruling this term? Because the NRA is immenently capable of winning at the ballot box. Now ask yourself: In how many years will more people have broadband than guns? Organize, vote, and elect pro-competition politicians. We have the power.
You can add DRM and other "features". Uggh.
Well, their marketing is total BS, from a science perspective. Cred flash: BS, Math, UGA. From their FAQ:
1. What about the wind at 65,000 feet? Will it affect the Stratellite? Answer: A 60 mph wind at 65,000 feet has 1/18 the amount of force that at 60 mph wind at sea level has. It is still moving at 60 mph, but there are 1/18 the molecules in motion. Insofar as force is concerned, it could be said that a 60 mph wind at 65,000 feet would have the same force against the Stratellite as a 3 mile per hour wind would have at sea level.
Um, that's not how fluid dynamics work. Think about it: there are a far smaller number of molicules of motor oil, too. But the force is different. You can't just take the number of molicules. I remember something aobut working this type of problem in a complex variables class. I don't know what the equation was, but I strongly doubt the relationship is exactly linear. Moreover, it's colder, which also effects viscosity.
In addition to "How 'bout you plus me subtract our clothes, you divide your legs and we multiply", I can use the less cheesy "Hey baby, I'm a mathamatician"
Oh, yeah.
-kwy
I'd be very upset, similarly, if someone from the U.S. or U.K. was arrested for editing a category re Osama
But that wouldn't happen in the US or UK. We, like the rest of the West, value freedom of expression. Turkey doesn't. So Turkey doesn't belong in the EU.
Will
I'd be very upset, similarly, if someone from the U.S. or U.K. was arrested for editing a category re Osama
But that wouldn't happen in the US or UK. We, like the rest of the West, value freedom of expression. Turkey doesn't. So Turkey doesn't belong in the EU.
Will
Shut the fuck up about why they're not being let in the EU. I always assumed the American line about how it was racism that kept them out. Their values and political system are out of line with the West. The west isn't going to and shouldn't change. It seems clear Turkey won't. And as long as they won't, the won't be welcome in the West. Simple as that. Will