And what's wrong with RPM or DEB packages for handling source-based installs? Both handle the building and installation of source-based packages just fine.
Well, given Gentoo is usable and this is not, I disagree with their assessment.
Are you certain about that statement? Have you even looked at the Portage code? Have you ever tried it?
Sorry, but in my mind, Gentoo died about the time Daniel Robbins gave up on the thing. And I can't say I blame him, either. Gentoo has to be one of the most spectacular failures in Linus Distro history. Constant bickering so nothing ever gets done. Flames that make even ESR's diatribe about Fedora look tame.
Gentoo was a good idea. Unfortunately, the man with the vision couldn't seem to keep it going in one direction.
f course its awkward, its Linux. That's still the problem with the adoption of linux (myself included) is the fact that they have shorthands/acronyms for EVERY command (why can't they have a long word list and a shorthand?!).
Uh, they do.
Look, if it makes you feel any better, Mr. Anonymous Cobol Programmer, you can type 'rpmquery --list openssl'
Yes, but what he was saying was the equivalent of "Fuck Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin" ("Fuck Sonia Gandhi"), not "Fuck Muslims". The later might get him cited for a hate crime even here, in the right context, while the former is not likely to get anyone arrested in any context (in and of itself).
CA.sh on my openSUSE box was located in/usr/lib/ssl/misc, as on the other boxes. However, the book tells us that CA.sh, and a moderately competent Linux user is likely to know that rpm -ql openssl will list all of the files in the openssl package or that rpm-ql openssl | grep CA.sh will spit out the location of the script.
Ignoring the fact that this has got to be one of the most awkwardly-written English sentences in the entire history of the language, *ahem*, I would say "Yes". If you use OpenSuSE (or any other RPM-based distro) and are moderately competent, then you should know how to query the RPM database to get such information. If you didn't, you don't qualify as 'moderately competent', and definitely don't fit the target audience for Linux Networking Cookbook.
Not exactly, it is like bad mouthing your religion or god. I am not sure how many conservative Christians in US would take it lightly if one bad mouths Jesus.
There were two different stories linked to. I was commenting on the more recent of the two. Either way, I can say "Fuck Jesus" and still not be arrested.
was wondering - & on this very post @/. ( slashdot ), IF the task + data being computed gain an advantage, via Delphi's strength in STRING & MATH Processing ( which Delphi has over BOTH MSVB & MSVC++ ) thus, quite possibly giving said computational task better/faster/more efficiencies, via being developed in DELPHI ( especially if the compiler you use shows strengths in strings & math processing work tasks, which Delphi has )?
After all, EVERY program does strings & math, but somehow I think this type of processing ( which this post is about ) do an especially LARGE amount of that kind of work, & on THAT KIND OF DATA!
And my answer is that just because something is developed in Delphi, that doesn't necessarily mean it is faster than something developed with some other tool.
That's what I'm saying.
Now if the same programmer wrote the same cipher application using the same on the same platform using two different tools, Visual C++ and Delphi, then yes, you're right, the one using Delphi will probably be a bit faster.
However, OTOH, if this same programmer wrote then decided to write the cipher app using straight ANSI C with the GNU C Compiler (gcc), then there is a good chance that the one written in C using gcc will be the faster one, especially when compiled and ran on a platform that gcc is particularly optimized for (Linux and glibc).
On the third hand, someone who writes primarily in Delphi is not likely to be writing advanced cipher algorithms in the first place.
Again, you're trying to peg me as saying that I think MSVB or MSVC++ are better/faster/whatever than Delphi. And again I'm saying that that is NOT what I'm saying. I don't particularly like MSVB or MSVC++. I write a lot of code using Python and GNU C. And I have written useful Delphi programs in the past. Hell, I cut my programming teeth on Turbo Pascal and used every version from 3.02a to 7.0, aside from Delphi. Trust me, I have nothing against Delphi and I'm no fan of Microsoft's tools or compilers.
What I'm saying (and why I was modded up for saying it) is that you are putting wayyyyy to much stock into the tool. The crappiest coder using the world's most efficient compiler is STILL gonna produce code that is slower and more unnecessarily bloated than the world's best coder using the world's least efficient compiler.
That's what I'm saying. Stop trying to hide behind the tool, becuase the tool isn't gonna make you a great programmer.
What this man was convicted of may have been a crime in his country, but in the United States, Europe, Canada and most other places in the free world what he did would be protected under freedom of speech.
He was arrested for nothing more than saying something like "Fuck George Bush" or "Hillary Clinton is a stupid cunt licker" or "Barack Obama can go fuck himself" or "John McCain is an asshole." (There, equal opportunity.:)
Agreed. And moderation doesn't necessarily have to mean deleting posts. As a FidoNet echo moderator many years ago, 90% of what I had to do was to tell users to cool off or they were gonna get banned. Only nodes that were deliberately sending spam (or refused to listen to the moderator) got banned. It wasn't like we could really delete messages anyhow (there was no equivalent of UseNet's 'cancel'), but my moderation for local boards (where I did have the power to delete) was basically the same.
I only ever deleted a very small number of posts, most at the request of the original posters.
Yeah, I knew that already. I'm not talking about lab conditions, I'm talking about the real world. In the real world, the skill of the coder makes as much of a difference as the tool picked for the work.
While there are many, many competent Delphi coders, there are also just as many incompetent coders.
Delphi is ultimately a compiler for a high-level language -- Object Pascal. But if it's fed garbage, it's gonna put out garbage. GIGO. Garbage In, Garbage Out.
As always, well-performing code is as much the responsiblity of the coder as it is the tool -- probably even more so. Your article is also from 1997. Got anything more recent? I'll wager that in the past 10+ years, those differences have gotten smaller.
There. That might be easier with the ecode params, to show which are ascii letters and which aren't. I think only 2-3 actually correspond to accented letters, but I guess that would depend on encoding.
Oh, look, one of those stupid fscking karma-whoring Microsoft trolls/shills/astroturfers/whatever that have been hanging around here for the last year or so just wasted 3 of his mod points on THREE of my posts in this thread.
They must really hate me.
Please hammer whoever this is in metamod for me, thx. (And feel free to mod this post down, it's offtopic)
Despite advances in ___posting technology on Slashdot_____, by the year __2010____________, experts believe that we will still be worse of in terms of ___trolls, shills, fanbois and stupid posts______, requiring drastic measures to reduce ____Anonymous Cowards and Karma Whores__________.
Starting with the "middle" stanza, that appears to be some sort of "key" perhaps. Each of the different symbols correspond to a different hexadecimal digit.
In the first stanza, each grouping of lines has 1, 2 or 3 lines.
In the last stanza, each group of lines is only 1 or 2 lines.
Slashdot Mirror
*sigh*
Try reading manpages sometime.
Sheesh.
And what's wrong with RPM or DEB packages for handling source-based installs? Both handle the building and installation of source-based packages just fine.
Sorry, but in my mind, Gentoo died about the time Daniel Robbins gave up on the thing. And I can't say I blame him, either. Gentoo has to be one of the most spectacular failures in Linus Distro history. Constant bickering so nothing ever gets done. Flames that make even ESR's diatribe about Fedora look tame.
Gentoo was a good idea. Unfortunately, the man with the vision couldn't seem to keep it going in one direction.
Uh, they do.
Look, if it makes you feel any better, Mr. Anonymous Cobol Programmer, you can type 'rpmquery --list openssl'
Yes, but what he was saying was the equivalent of "Fuck Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin" ("Fuck Sonia Gandhi"), not "Fuck Muslims". The later might get him cited for a hate crime even here, in the right context, while the former is not likely to get anyone arrested in any context (in and of itself).
That's what I'm saying.
Now if the same programmer wrote the same cipher application using the same on the same platform using two different tools, Visual C++ and Delphi, then yes, you're right, the one using Delphi will probably be a bit faster.
However, OTOH, if this same programmer wrote then decided to write the cipher app using straight ANSI C with the GNU C Compiler (gcc), then there is a good chance that the one written in C using gcc will be the faster one, especially when compiled and ran on a platform that gcc is particularly optimized for (Linux and glibc).
On the third hand, someone who writes primarily in Delphi is not likely to be writing advanced cipher algorithms in the first place.
Again, you're trying to peg me as saying that I think MSVB or MSVC++ are better/faster/whatever than Delphi. And again I'm saying that that is NOT what I'm saying. I don't particularly like MSVB or MSVC++. I write a lot of code using Python and GNU C. And I have written useful Delphi programs in the past. Hell, I cut my programming teeth on Turbo Pascal and used every version from 3.02a to 7.0, aside from Delphi. Trust me, I have nothing against Delphi and I'm no fan of Microsoft's tools or compilers.
What I'm saying (and why I was modded up for saying it) is that you are putting wayyyyy to much stock into the tool. The crappiest coder using the world's most efficient compiler is STILL gonna produce code that is slower and more unnecessarily bloated than the world's best coder using the world's least efficient compiler.
That's what I'm saying. Stop trying to hide behind the tool, becuase the tool isn't gonna make you a great programmer.
Crime? You sure you want to word it that way?
What this man was convicted of may have been a crime in his country, but in the United States, Europe, Canada and most other places in the free world what he did would be protected under freedom of speech.
He was arrested for nothing more than saying something like "Fuck George Bush" or "Hillary Clinton is a stupid cunt licker" or "Barack Obama can go fuck himself" or "John McCain is an asshole." (There, equal opportunity.
Tastelss? Perhaps. Illegal? Not where I live.
Either that, it was just some spammers trying to gather information. Nah, that's wayyyy too plausible.
Agreed. And moderation doesn't necessarily have to mean deleting posts. As a FidoNet echo moderator many years ago, 90% of what I had to do was to tell users to cool off or they were gonna get banned. Only nodes that were deliberately sending spam (or refused to listen to the moderator) got banned. It wasn't like we could really delete messages anyhow (there was no equivalent of UseNet's 'cancel'), but my moderation for local boards (where I did have the power to delete) was basically the same.
I only ever deleted a very small number of posts, most at the request of the original posters.
It wasn't for him.
or alternatively:
He's using advanced video editing techniques to create an "American Gladiators Gone Wild" video.
Yeah, I knew that already. I'm not talking about lab conditions, I'm talking about the real world. In the real world, the skill of the coder makes as much of a difference as the tool picked for the work.
While there are many, many competent Delphi coders, there are also just as many incompetent coders.
Delphi is ultimately a compiler for a high-level language -- Object Pascal. But if it's fed garbage, it's gonna put out garbage. GIGO. Garbage In, Garbage Out.
As always, well-performing code is as much the responsiblity of the coder as it is the tool -- probably even more so. Your article is also from 1997. Got anything more recent? I'll wager that in the past 10+ years, those differences have gotten smaller.
Oooh. MOD PARENT UP!!!! He seems to be on to something here. Maybe the first stanza encodes the breaks somehow?
Assuming slashdot keeps the chars: There. That might be easier with the ecode params, to show which are ascii letters and which aren't. I think only 2-3 actually correspond to accented letters, but I guess that would depend on encoding.
0
(Look at it on a text console.)
*sigh*
Slashdotted. It was up for about at least a couple hours though.
Oh, look, one of those stupid fscking karma-whoring Microsoft trolls/shills/astroturfers/whatever that have been hanging around here for the last year or so just wasted 3 of his mod points on THREE of my posts in this thread.
They must really hate me.
Please hammer whoever this is in metamod for me, thx. (And feel free to mod this post down, it's offtopic)
I hear politicians and political talk show hosts work well, too.
What a coincidence! That happens to be the combination to my luggage!
:-D
Sorry, had to do it.
Try it now. I clicked the submit button on the post before the image finished uploading...seems I underestimated the time it would take to upload.
Mirror here. I think Google's servers can probably handle the traffic. ;)
Three "stanzas" maybe.
Starting with the "middle" stanza, that appears to be some sort of "key" perhaps. Each of the different symbols correspond to a different hexadecimal digit.
In the first stanza, each grouping of lines has 1, 2 or 3 lines.
In the last stanza, each group of lines is only 1 or 2 lines.
Maybe the last stanza is binary?
And maybe the first stanza is base 3?
Anyone else care to wager a guess?